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Post by boahistorybuff on Jul 3, 2019 20:14:12 GMT -6
Wow. Wonder if Avon will make top three this year? (Probably). And if BA will win all their regionals this fall. (Maybe not?) I will place my bet on yes, although this year looks to be a tough one for both these bands to hold onto their streaks.
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Post by SpartanMarcher on Jul 4, 2019 12:11:26 GMT -6
Broken Arrow, OK has won every single regional it has participated in since 2007 for a total of 12 consecutive regional wins. They have won the St Louis regional every year since 2007 except 2012, the year they did not attend a regional. They made up for by winning two regionals in 2013. Just to piggyback off this record: Broken Arrow is also the only school to ever have won two Super Regionals in a year, winning both St. Louis and Atlanta in 2013
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jul 4, 2019 13:03:30 GMT -6
Broken Arrow, OK has won every single regional it has participated in since 2007 for a total of 12 consecutive regional wins. They have won the St Louis regional every year since 2007 except 2012, the year they did not attend a regional. They made up for by winning two regionals in 2013. Just to piggyback off this record: Broken Arrow is also the only school to ever have won two Super Regionals in a year, winning both St. Louis and Atlanta in 2013 I’d love to see them tackle the SA Super and the Indy Super some day soon. One day I WILL see them live!
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jul 7, 2019 14:01:09 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis.
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Jul 7, 2019 19:37:23 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis. Ironically, they have yet to win a regional title. Carmel has made finals at all four shows, though San Antonio was in 2002 before it was a Super.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jul 7, 2019 21:09:03 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis. Ironically, they have yet to win a regional title. Carmel has made finals at all four shows, though San Antonio was in 2002 before it was a Super. Yea it was before that was an official super regional but I guess we can count them.
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Jul 7, 2019 21:57:42 GMT -6
Carmel has made finals at all four shows, though San Antonio was in 2002 before it was a Super. Yea it was before that was an official super regional but I guess we can count them. Definitely safe to say that since they won that show they still would have been at or near the top had it been a Super with a more loaded lineup.
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Post by das88 on Oct 20, 2019 17:29:54 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has to figured this one out. How about the highest scoring finals (average 12 finalists bands) ever? I would think this year will be in the running.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Oct 20, 2019 18:20:13 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has to figured this one out. How about the highest scoring finals (average 12 finalists bands) ever? I would think this year will be in the running. All of the finals scores are on the BOA history v2.0 RESULTS thread. Go ahead and do the math and let us know. The highest is definitely within the last few years.
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Post by rabb2t on Oct 20, 2019 19:56:55 GMT -6
I vaguely remember from the vBulletin forums that there was a post showing that Carmel achieved the lowest score in BOA history by not showing up. Anyone have the official year?
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Post by boahistorybuff on Oct 20, 2019 20:04:24 GMT -6
I vaguely remember from the vBulletin forums that there was a post showing that Carmel achieved the lowest score in BOA history by not showing up. Anyone have the official year? The year was 1993, the Indianapolis regional. One of Carmel's buses was involved in an accident (I dont believe there were any injuries or anything serious). That delayed them to the point where they missed their prelims performance time. Rather than just disqualify them (which is what I believe they do now), BOA gave them a two or three point penalty. So they ended up with a negative score.
A long standing BOA rummer is that a band received a score in the teens at the 1980 (or maybe 1979) Moscow ID regional. Scores were of course much lower in those days, but not typically that low. The story goes that one of the band members turned to a judge during the performance and said to them, "this is really bad isn't it". I do not know if this story is true or just a rumor that got carried down through the years.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 20, 2019 20:15:11 GMT -6
Awww that’s kinda sad. I wonder what you have to do to be that bad!
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Oct 20, 2019 20:27:55 GMT -6
I vaguely remember from the vBulletin forums that there was a post showing that Carmel achieved the lowest score in BOA history by not showing up. Anyone have the official year? The year was 1993, the Indianapolis regional. One of Carmel's buses was involved in an accident (I dont believe there were any injuries or anything serious). That delayed them to the point where they missed their prelims performance time. Rather than just disqualify them (which is what I believe they do now), BOA gave them a two or three point penalty. So they ended up with a negative score.
A long standing BOA rummer is that a band received a score in the teens at the 1980 (or maybe 1979) Moscow ID regional. Scores were of course much lower in those days, but not typically that low. The story goes that one of the band members turned to a judge during the performance and said to them, "this is really bad isn't it". I do not know if this story is true or just a rumor that got carried down through the years.
Another interesting thing about the Carmel incident is how it's listed on the recap. They were given a -1.00 score in each subcaption and a one point penalty. However, penalties were normally listed as a positive number which would be subtracted from the subtotal score. But for Carmel they entered -1 for everything including the penalty, thus for the penalty they subtracted a negative number which actually boosted the final score to -4.00. I'm fairly confident that this is the only time a penalty has been assessed where it actually boosted the final score. Granted, none of that really matters as it was just filler info since they didn't perform.
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Post by stlbanddad on Oct 20, 2019 20:37:36 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis. Ironically, they have yet to win a regional title. Blue Springs won the Cedar Falls Regional this year.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Oct 20, 2019 20:41:20 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis. Ironically, they have yet to win a regional title. Blue Springs won the Cedar Falls Regional this year. Yep. I wrote that before they won. I guess I should change that. I kind of knew they would win in Iowa when I wrote it.
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Post by It's Just Band on Oct 21, 2019 7:03:01 GMT -6
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Blue Springs is the only band to have been a finalist at all 4 of the big super regionals; San Antonio, Indy, Atlanta and St Louis. Ironically, they have yet to win a regional title. Carmel has made finals at all four shows, though San Antonio was in 2002 before it was a Super. Carmel has actually won all "four" Super Regionals, with San Antonio not being considered one in 2002
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Post by oboe12 on Oct 21, 2019 7:22:39 GMT -6
Technically, Carmel hasn't won every Super Regional vroom vroom
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Post by Allohak on Oct 21, 2019 8:11:54 GMT -6
Technically, Carmel hasn't won every Super Regional vroom vroom W-S was a SR that one year, wasn't it
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Post by boahistorybuff on Oct 21, 2019 8:42:02 GMT -6
Technically, Carmel hasn't won every Super Regional vroom vroom That is correct. Carmel has not won every Super Regional. They won San Antonio in 2002. SA officially became the first super regional in 2003. Also they made Winston-Salem a super regional in its debut year in 2013. That was the only year it was a super regional. I kind of discount that a bit. If you take that technicality out, in the last 20 years Carmel is the only band to win Indy, St Louis, Atlanta and San Antonio (even though SA was not technically a super when they won it).
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Post by oboe12 on Oct 21, 2019 10:00:24 GMT -6
I enjoy a technicality And yes, Allohak, it was. It will most likely be the only Super Regional that Dobyns-Bennett wins for a long, long time unless they happen to catch a year in which Avon and Carmel choose not to attend Indy.
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Post by rememberthealamo on Oct 21, 2019 11:47:24 GMT -6
Technically, Carmel hasn't won every Super Regional vroom vroom That is correct. Carmel has not won every Super Regional. They won San Antonio in 2002. SA officially became the first super regional in 2003. Also they made Winston-Salem a super regional in its debut year in 2013. That was the only year it was a super regional. I kind of discount that a bit. If you take that technicality out, in the last 20 years Carmel is the only band to win Indy, St Louis, Atlanta and San Antonio (even though SA was not technically a super when they won it). And that’s a big “technically “ as you would have to then say every band who won SA Regional prior to it becoming a Super Regional was a Super Regional winner.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 21, 2019 11:59:35 GMT -6
That is correct. Carmel has not won every Super Regional. They won San Antonio in 2002. SA officially became the first super regional in 2003. Also they made Winston-Salem a super regional in its debut year in 2013. That was the only year it was a super regional. I kind of discount that a bit. If you take that technicality out, in the last 20 years Carmel is the only band to win Indy, St Louis, Atlanta and San Antonio (even though SA was not technically a super when they won it). And that’s a big “technically “ as you would have to then say every band who won SA Regional prior to it becoming a Super Regional was a Super Regional winner. The technicality referenced by oboe12 isn't about San Antonio. The "vroom vroom" included in the post is a reference to the nickname for Bowman Gray Stadium at Winston-Salem State University where the Winston-Salem "Super Regional" was held in 2013. Check out a picture of the place, and you'll quickly see why it is referenced as "The Racetrack."
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Post by rememberthealamo on Oct 21, 2019 13:06:29 GMT -6
And that’s a big “technically “ as you would have to then say every band who won SA Regional prior to it becoming a Super Regional was a Super Regional winner. The technicality referenced by oboe12 isn't about San Antonio. The "vroom vroom" included in the post is a reference to the nickname for Bowman Gray Stadium at Winston-Salem State University where the Winston-Salem "Super Regional" was held in 2013. Check out a picture of the place, and you'll quickly see why it is referenced as "The Racetrack." Ah- okay- I get it
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Oct 21, 2019 20:30:14 GMT -6
The Racetrack was the WORST. VENUE. EVER. for marching band. God that place was just plain awful to perform at and watch bands at. I'm sure the judges enjoyed the offset press box too.
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Post by SpartanMarcher on Oct 24, 2019 20:48:52 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has to figured this one out. How about the highest scoring finals (average 12 finalists bands) ever? I would think this year will be in the running. ________________________ Unsurprisingly, it’s 2016 (93.33), with 2017 (93.3) right on their heels. What’s surprising (at least to me) is finding out that 2006 (92.91) actually places 3rd in this ranking. Interestingly, both the 2017 and 2018 SA supers have had average finalist scores that would put them in the top 5 of Nats years
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Post by Allohak on Oct 24, 2019 21:51:51 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has to figured this one out. How about the highest scoring finals (average 12 finalists bands) ever? I would think this year will be in the running. ________________________ Unsurprisingly, it’s 2016 (93.33), with 2017 (93.3) right on their heels. What’s surprising (at least to me) is finding out that 2006 (92.91) actually places 3rd in this ranking. Interestingly, both the 2017 and 2018 SA supers have had average finalist scores that would put them in the top 5 of Nats years 2006 had some great shows BA, KM, TW, Avon, et al have good rewatch value
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Post by SpartanMarcher on Oct 24, 2019 22:13:32 GMT -6
Oh I love most of the finalists from ‘06, don’t get me wrong, I just didn’t remember it being scored that high aside from BA and Bell
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Post by abtwitch on Nov 21, 2019 15:08:58 GMT -6
I was going through results of the late 2000s and early 2010s and noticed Vandegrift's absolute dominance. As far as I know they are the only band to have won a class championship title in all 4 classes, A-AAAA, and to make it even more impressive, they made finals at least once in all of the classes. Here's a list of their championship titles:
2010 Arlington, TX - 1st in Class A 2010 The Woodlands, TX - 1st in Class A (3rd overall in finals) 2010 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class A 2011 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AA 2012 Denton, TX - 1st in Class AA (6th overall in finals) 2012 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AA 2013 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAA (4th overall in finals) 2013 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AAA (7th overall in finals) 2016 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2017 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Grand Nationals - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals)
Truly a model program with some incredible history.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Nov 21, 2019 15:25:26 GMT -6
I was going through results of the late 2000s and early 2010s and noticed Vandegrift's absolute dominance. As far as I know they are the only band to have one a class class championship title in all 4 classes, A-AAAA, and to make it even more impressive, they made finals at least once in all of the classes. Here's a list of their championship titles: 2010 Arlington, TX - 1st in Class A 2010 The Woodlands, TX - 1st in Class A (3rd overall in finals) 2010 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class A 2011 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AA 2012 Denton, TX - 1st in Class AA (6th overall in finals) 2012 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AA 2013 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAA (4th overall in finals) 2013 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AAA (7th overall in finals) 2016 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2017 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Grand Nationals - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) Truly a model program with some incredible history. 2010 was their first year in BOA and I believe the first year the school had a marching band. Vandegrift opened in 2009. In 2010 the band consisted of just freshman and sophomores. That third overall finish at The Woodlands regional turned out to be an indicator of things to come.
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Post by principalagent on Nov 23, 2019 10:41:23 GMT -6
I was going through results of the late 2000s and early 2010s and noticed Vandegrift's absolute dominance. As far as I know they are the only band to have one a class class championship title in all 4 classes, A-AAAA, and to make it even more impressive, they made finals at least once in all of the classes. Here's a list of their championship titles: 2010 Arlington, TX - 1st in Class A 2010 The Woodlands, TX - 1st in Class A (3rd overall in finals) 2010 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class A 2011 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AA 2012 Denton, TX - 1st in Class AA (6th overall in finals) 2012 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AA 2013 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAA (4th overall in finals) 2013 San Antonio, TX - 1st in Class AAA (7th overall in finals) 2016 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2017 Conroe, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Austin, TX - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) 2019 Grand Nationals - 1st in Class AAAA (1st overall in finals) Truly a model program with some incredible history. 2010 was their first year in BOA and I believe the first year the school had a marching band. Vandegrift opened in 2009. In 2010 the band consisted of just freshman and sophomores. That third overall finish at The Woodlands regional turned out to be an indicator of things to come. Vandegrift actually opened with freshmen and sophomores so it had juniors when they entered the BOA circuit. They actually still weren’t marching a drumline yet that year! On the UIL side, most first year programs take the first year of UIL off and participate as a non-varsity school. Vandegrift instead went full force and was named alternate to area in one of the more competitive, if not most competitive, then-4A/now-5A area in 2009.
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