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Post by iwasinbandbackthen on Oct 5, 2022 12:22:06 GMT -6
After looking over scores the past couple weekends, I think I've got a good finals prediction for YIM. 92 - Rosemount, MN (AAAA) 91 - Lincoln, SD 88 - Millard West, NE (AAA) 87.5 - Eastview, MN 87 - Brandon Valley, SD 83 - Davenport Central, IA 79 - Eden Prairie, MN 78.5 - Lakeville South, MN (AA) 76 - Grand Rapids, MN 74 - Harrisburg, SD (A) First out - Waseca, MN I do think Harrisburg wins class A over Hastings, although it could be close - At Festival of Bands in Sioux Falls, Harrisburg was behind Waseca and Marshall by about 3 points whereas at Rosemount 2 weeks ago Hastings was behind both of those bands by 6 points. From the scores that Irondale posted in WI, I don't think they have enough to make finals over Grand Rapids, Waseca or Marshal. Champlin Park competed with Irondale in Baldwin WI on 9/17 - Irondale outscored Champlin by 7 points - In competitions where Grand Rapids and Champlin are competing together (Very early), Grand Rapids outscored Champlin by 9-10 points. Not really concrete, but its the best we have given Irondale haven't competed in MN this year. Eastview and Brandon Valley scored very close together early in the season (Brandon Valley ahead by 1.8 on 9/10). From what I have seen, Eastview has made great improvement to their show compared to their early season showing, whereas Brandon Valley was already fairly clean in early September. I think Eastview outscores them here. This score distribution is typical for YIM the past few years and I believe these scores are about where each band is trending atm. Harrisburg and Hastings were both at Pursuit of Excellence in Marshall on 9/17. I've yet to see full results from that show, just the class champions. Harrisburg won the smallest class. Hastings was one class up from Harrisburg. That class was won by West Lyon (IA). Harrisburg was 1.35 points behind West Lyon in finals at Sioux Falls last weekend, which gives me the impression Harrisburg has to be somewhat close to Hastings scorewise. As I mentioned before, the weekend of 9/24, Harrisburg was a bit under 3 points behind SF Roosevelt and tied with SF O'Gorman at Tri-State, but fell about seven points behind O'Gorman and Roosevelt at the Brandon Valley show that night. (O'Gorman and Roosevelt tied at BV.) This inconsistency makes me wonder how competitive they might be with Hastings. However, I suspect much of Harrisburg's inconsistency in score has to do with the fact they are bounced around between classes a lot. Harrisburg is a smaller band (55ish performers) from a larger school (1400ish students). The BV and Marshall shows went by band size, putting Harrisburg in the lowest class. Sioux Falls and Tri-State determine class largely by school size, so Harrisburg was in the top class at both of those shows.
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Post by bandmom06 on Oct 8, 2022 12:20:15 GMT -6
Is anyone attending YIM and can keep us updated?
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 8, 2022 12:39:12 GMT -6
Is anyone attending YIM and can keep us updated? Not attending, but have seen that Hastings and Lakeville South have won their classes and have secured their spots in finals tonight. I believe Northbanddad is there.
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Post by bandsquirrel32 on Oct 8, 2022 22:53:59 GMT -6
Seems like I underestimated Irondale. Also a bit surprising that Davenport Central did not make finals as they outscored Grand Rapids at the BOA Iowa regional.
YIM was an exciting competition - super close between Rosemount and Lincoln, and then close scores between 3rd-5th as expected.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 8, 2022 23:12:42 GMT -6
So I wasn't at Youth In Music but I'm going to give some thoughts based on what I saw on the sheets.
- Scores from Prelims to Finals seemed to go down for everyone with the exception of Brandon Valley and Hastings.
- Lincoln couldn't quite pull the Houdini-esque (ha-ha) upset here like they did against Lincoln-Way at Iowa. Still .6 points is the closest they've ever come to beating Rosemount in the years they've gone to Youth In Music.
- Major Props to Brandon Valley. Jumped from 5th to 3rd in finals to cap off their strongest season to date. I expect big things from them in the future and hope to see them at a BOA event next year.
- Grand Rapids definitely surprised me by making finals, but huge congratulations to them. They had a strong season and a great show. Definitely earned it. I do feel for both Marshall and Davenport Central as they were both just a couple tenths from making it.
- Eden Prairie placing 7th wasn't surprising given the season they had, but at least they didn't have the drastic score drop that they had last year.
- Despite still not seeing any footage from Rosemount, I don't think it'll be too controversial to say after they spend the rest of October cleaning the show they are going to be in very good shape for Grand Nationals.
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Post by northbanddad on Oct 8, 2022 23:21:53 GMT -6
Is anyone attending YIM and can keep us updated? Not attending, but have seen that Hastings and Lakeville South have won their classes and have secured their spots in finals tonight. I believe Northbanddad is there. I think bigtrombone already posted the results and I don't think there were really any surprises. That said, end of Prelims I actually thought Lincoln's show was cleaner than Rosemounts, but I had no doubt that Rosemount was going to win GE. And so my thought process was if Lincoln can win Performance maybe there's a chance. Looking at the scores now, it was really close, but Rosemount definitely had the "bigger" higher ceiling show. Someone commented, that they are a much bigger band this year, and that definitely shows both in numbers but also in the show design. The "Oh Danny Boy" intro, reminds me of the DB show from last year for some reason, beautiful soft start but powerful. Wood winds were killing it during the technical second part, this whimsical sound is becoming a Rosemount trademark. And then, I'm a secret Bette Midler fan, so The Rose ballad just won me. Ender is prototype Wes design, a bit dirty playing at parts, but it did what it needed to do and brought the house down. I do think the show has a lot of cleaning to do if they plan to get into GN Finals, but I feel they are a shoo-in for Semis. Lincoln's show seem to have had some technical issues in Finals, not really sure if that affected them. Definitely a shoo-in in next weeks St. Louis SR Finals, but if they have a good run I think they have a chance at upper half. Brandon Valley's show is super fun, and I can only see this band get even better. I had them over Millard West, which beat them in Prelims. MW has chance for Finals next week, but I think its going to be tough. Lastly, I think Eastview continue to improve music performance wise, and I thought it was another fun show. With a better show design, I can definitely see them getting higher scores in the future. This was a lot of fun. I hope they add more bands from out-of-state. Although I don't know how they are gonna fit them in one day. I heard someone say, they had to turn down a few bands. Maybe a two day, ala SR in the future then?
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Post by northbanddad on Oct 8, 2022 23:26:29 GMT -6
So I wasn't at Youth In Music but I'm going to give some thoughts based on what I saw on the sheets. - Scores from Prelims to Finals seemed to go down for everyone with the exception of Brandon Valley and Hastings. - Lincoln couldn't quite pull the Houdini-esque (ha-ha) upset here like they did against Lincoln-Way at Iowa. Still .6 points is the closest they've ever come to beating Rosemount in the years they've gone to Youth In Music. - Major Props to Brandon Valley. Jumped from 5th to 3rd in finals to cap off their strongest season to date. I expect big things from them in the future and hope to see them at a BOA event next year. - Grand Rapids definitely surprised me by making finals, but huge congratulations to them. They had a strong season and a great show. Definitely earned it. I do feel for both Marshall and Davenport Central as they were both just a couple tenths from making it. - Eden Prairie placing 7th wasn't surprising given the season they had, but at least they didn't have the drastic score drop that they had last year. - Despite still not seeing any footage from Rosemount, I don't think it'll be too controversial to say after they spend the rest of October cleaning the show they are going to be in very good shape for Grand Nationals. 100% on BOA for Brandon Valley.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 8, 2022 23:37:42 GMT -6
Lincoln's show seem to have had some technical issues in Finals, not really sure if that affected them. Definitely a shoo-in in next weeks St. Louis SR Finals, but if they have a good run I think they have a chance at upper half. Brandon Valley's show is super fun, and I can only see this band get even better. I had them over Millard West, which beat them in Prelims. MW has chance for Finals next week, but I think its going to be tough. Lastly, I think Eastview continue to improve music performance wise, and I thought it was another fun show. With a better show design, I can definitely see them getting higher scores in the future. This was a lot of fun. I hope they add more bands from out-of-state. Although I don't know how they are gonna fit them in one day. I heard someone say, they had to turn down a few bands. Maybe a two day, ala SR in the future then? Define technical issues, was it the pre-show sound-bite not working or soloist mics not working? Still even with those issues, Lincoln were still pretty close to Rosemount and they should feel good going into St. Louis. I'm not quite as optimistic about them being top half, I think there are some better bands that'll be top half (Namely Bentonville, Mustang, and possibly O'Fallon Township) and I can't see them stealing any captions from Blue Springs in Prelims but they should have a solid outing next week. I'm sure Music For All would love to invest in possibly doing a Super Regional in Minneapolis. Personally, I think it would draw a good amount of bands in the upper midwest. The only thing that I can see really holding it back from ever happening would be the cost to use U.S. Bank Stadium. It would probably just as expensive as it was to use Mercedes-Benz Stadium for Atlanta in 2017, if not more.
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Post by bandsquirrel32 on Oct 8, 2022 23:43:24 GMT -6
Not attending, but have seen that Hastings and Lakeville South have won their classes and have secured their spots in finals tonight. I believe Northbanddad is there. I think bigtrombone already posted the results and I don't think there were really any surprises. That said, end of Prelims I actually thought Lincoln's show was cleaner than Rosemounts, but I had no doubt that Rosemount was going to win GE. And so my thought process was if Lincoln can win Performance maybe there's a chance. Looking at the scores now, it was really close, but Rosemount definitely had the "bigger" higher ceiling show. Someone commented, that they are a much bigger band this year, and that definitely shows both in numbers but also in the show design. The "Oh Danny Boy" intro, reminds me of the DB show from last year for some reason, beautiful soft start but powerful. Wood winds were killing it during the technical second part, this whimsical sound is becoming a Rosemount trademark. And then, I'm a secret Bette Midler fan, so The Rose ballad just won me. Ender is prototype Wes design, a bit dirty playing at parts, but it did what it needed to do and brought the house down. I do think the show has a lot of cleaning to do if they plan to get into GN Finals, but I feel they are a shoo-in for Semis. Lincoln's show seem to have had some technical issues in Finals, not really sure if that affected them. Definitely a shoo-in in next weeks St. Louis SR Finals, but if they have a good run I think they have a chance at upper half. Brandon Valley's show is super fun, and I can only see this band get even better. I had them over Millard West, which beat them in Prelims. MW has chance for Finals next week, but I think its going to be tough. Lastly, I think Eastview continue to improve music performance wise, and I thought it was another fun show. With a better show design, I can definitely see them getting higher scores in the future. This was a lot of fun. I hope they add more bands from out-of-state. Although I don't know how they are gonna fit them in one day. I heard someone say, they had to turn down a few bands. Maybe a two day, ala SR in the future then? Looking at the recap sheets - Lincoln edged Rosemount in Music Performance, Visual GE and color guard in prelims, but in finals Rosemount won all of the performance and GE captions while Lincoln took both Percussion and Color Guard. Rosemount does still have a bit of improvement to do with performance, but the show design is amazing. 3rd-5th there was also a flip in Music performance - Eastview got 3rd in that caption in prelims, 5th in finals. Eastview also nearly won Music GE in prelims, and were a solid 3rd place in overall GE in both prelims and finals. Hopefully they can make it back to a BOA event in the coming years as well.
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Post by bandsquirrel32 on Oct 8, 2022 23:54:06 GMT -6
I'm sure Music For All would love to invest in possibly doing a Super Regional in Minneapolis. Personally, I think it would draw a good amount of bands in the upper midwest. The only thing that I can see really holding it back from ever happening would be the cost to use U.S. Bank Stadium. It would probably just as expensive as it was to use Mercedes-Benz Stadium for Atlanta in 2017, if not more. A September or early October regional could potentially use Huntington Bank Stadium at University of MN.
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Post by MarchingBand4Life on Oct 9, 2022 0:53:27 GMT -6
I'm sure Music For All would love to invest in possibly doing a Super Regional in Minneapolis. Personally, I think it would draw a good amount of bands in the upper midwest. The only thing that I can see really holding it back from ever happening would be the cost to use U.S. Bank Stadium. It would probably just as expensive as it was to use Mercedes-Benz Stadium for Atlanta in 2017, if not more. A September or early October regional could potentially use Huntington Bank Stadium at University of MN. LOVE the idea of a regional/sn Minnesota, but I think timing would be super challenging. For anything outdoors, September would be tough, cuz neither Rosemount nor Eastview could afford to lose revenue from their home shows. Same could be said for Eden Prairie or any of the other locals. Don't underestimate how much money is made from the local festivals. Then you have to contend with U of M's use of "the bank" for Saturday home games. And a MN regional would draw bands away from the Iowa regional, leaving that one potentially a bit short in numbers. October would be tough with YIM the first weekend. And weather playing a huge factor for outdoor contests after start of October. YIM has been known to need parkas for any amount of time outdoors. Realistically speaking, what would make a lot of sense would be the week after YIM, so that schools that stop competing locally after YIM would still have decent weather for outdoor rehearsals. 3rd week of October is often STL SR, which Rosemount and Lincoln have been frequenting in recent years, and has often been each of the band's earliest/only testing of their shows on a bigger stage than YIM.
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Post by northernbandkid29 on Oct 9, 2022 2:38:36 GMT -6
A September or early October regional could potentially use Huntington Bank Stadium at University of MN. LOVE the idea of a regional/sn Minnesota, but I think timing would be super challenging. For anything outdoors, September would be tough, cuz neither Rosemount nor Eastview could afford to lose revenue from their home shows. Same could be said for Eden Prairie or any of the other locals. Don't underestimate how much money is made from the local festivals. Then you have to contend with U of M's use of "the bank" for Saturday home games. And a MN regional would draw bands away from the Iowa regional, leaving that one potentially a bit short in numbers. October would be tough with YIM the first weekend. And weather playing a huge factor for outdoor contests after start of October. YIM has been known to need parkas for any amount of time outdoors. Realistically speaking, what would make a lot of sense would be the week after YIM, so that schools that stop competing locally after YIM would still have decent weather for outdoor rehearsals. 3rd week of October is often STL SR, which Rosemount and Lincoln have been frequenting in recent years, and has often been each of the band's earliest/only testing of their shows on a bigger stage than YIM. It would be great to host a BOA regional inside US Bank or Huntington Bank Stadiums. But something no one has really considered from my knowledge is the lot spaces for busses and trailers. There isn't a staging lot around US Bank Stadium. And since YIM is a small/local competition, the road in front of the stadium is closed so bands can park there. Now, imagine a BOA Super Regional were to take place there. Where would the bands park if there's no open lots around or near the stadium? Taking this into consideration, it's understandable why STL, Indy, and SA are perfect places for Super Regionals, cuz the lots around the stadium can handle the amount of bands attending. Just something to think about
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Post by bandmom06 on Oct 9, 2022 17:19:30 GMT -6
I often wonder if part of what keeps Lincoln separated from some of the other bands (ie Rosemount) isn't band uniform related. I feel like the other bands with bigger budgets have uniform changes yearly. Lincoln isn't allowed to purchase new band uniforms until 2024, I believe, and then they will be stuck with those for another 10 years, unless all this winning helps their cause in that area. That and maybe the fact that they are not an audition only band, which i really respect the heck out of. They work very hard to make sure that anyone who wants to be in their band, can be. So I wasn't at Youth In Music but I'm going to give some thoughts based on what I saw on the sheets. - Scores from Prelims to Finals seemed to go down for everyone with the exception of Brandon Valley and Hastings. - Lincoln couldn't quite pull the Houdini-esque (ha-ha) upset here like they did against Lincoln-Way at Iowa. Still .6 points is the closest they've ever come to beating Rosemount in the years they've gone to Youth In Music. - Major Props to Brandon Valley. Jumped from 5th to 3rd in finals to cap off their strongest season to date. I expect big things from them in the future and hope to see them at a BOA event next year. - Grand Rapids definitely surprised me by making finals, but huge congratulations to them. They had a strong season and a great show. Definitely earned it. I do feel for both Marshall and Davenport Central as they were both just a couple tenths from making it. - Eden Prairie placing 7th wasn't surprising given the season they had, but at least they didn't have the drastic score drop that they had last year. - Despite still not seeing any footage from Rosemount, I don't think it'll be too controversial to say after they spend the rest of October cleaning the show they are going to be in very good shape for Grand Nationals. 100% on BOA for Brandon Valley.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 9, 2022 17:48:42 GMT -6
I often wonder if part of what keeps Lincoln separated from some of the other bands (ie Rosemount) isn't band uniform related. I feel like the other bands with bigger budgets have uniform changes yearly. Lincoln isn't allowed to purchase new band uniforms until 2024, I believe, and then they will be stuck with those for another 10 years, unless all this winning helps their cause in that area. That and maybe the fact that they are not an audition only band, which i really respect the heck out of. They work very hard to make sure that anyone who wants to be in their band, can be. 100% on BOA for Brandon Valley. I don't think that's the case. There are plenty of other bands in the country that aren't following the change-the-uniform every year trend that other bands are and are still seeing a lot of success. The one that instantly comes to my mind is Carmel, who's only had a slight update to their uniforms back in 2019, and are still strong favorites to win Nationals year in and year out. And if I'm not mistaken (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on what I'm about to say), I believe Carmel isn't an audition-only band.
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Post by mnbandfan on Oct 9, 2022 18:50:20 GMT -6
What bands in the upper midwest are groups that audition for members?
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Post by Tyrannosaurus_Rex on Oct 9, 2022 23:39:38 GMT -6
Brandon Valley is a bigger band this year and definitely sounds like one without losing quality. I had the pleasure of being in Marshall and definitely came out impress. It wasn't an easy delineation anymore between BV and Lincoln. It seems BV is getting closer to Lincoln and Rosemount every year. I'm very happy about those future upper midwest competitions.
I'm a bit depress with the state of Marshall, and for that matter EP. These bands used to be big dominant bands of the upper midwest but for different reasons have definitely seen challenges in their programs. I really hope that they could find a way to get back to how they use to be and compete again with Rosemount, Lincoln, and now Brandon Valley. Eden Prairie has been really struggling with band enrollment recently. They've been shrinking in size since COVID, and because of issues with their directors (such as having multiple quit), they are struggling to maintain the level of excellence they are normally able to. Given EP's current struggles, I am really curious how they will recover. They have an awesome foundation, so if they can get it together with their leadership, I have no doubt that in future years they can regain a competitive foothold. I think that will ultimately come down to top-level leadership and student involvement/excitement for their marching band program. Also, despite their historical percussion strength they are starting to lose staff and students to programs like Rosemount or BV which are putting in huge amounts of effort to elevate their programs; Rosemount just hired a new percussion director and 5-10 staff to teach this year and in coming years. On a somewhat unrelated note, Rosemount's front ensemble is majority freshman this year (11/19). They are doing shockingly well given that they are playing a substantially more challenging front ensemble book and have essentially built the pit from the ground up. It is going to be super interesting to see where Rosemount's front ensemble is next year, and what that entails for their percussion section and band as a whole. They cut their cymbal line unfortunately too.
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Post by northbanddad on Oct 10, 2022 9:56:28 GMT -6
I often wonder if part of what keeps Lincoln separated from some of the other bands (ie Rosemount) isn't band uniform related. I feel like the other bands with bigger budgets have uniform changes yearly. Lincoln isn't allowed to purchase new band uniforms until 2024, I believe, and then they will be stuck with those for another 10 years, unless all this winning helps their cause in that area. That and maybe the fact that they are not an audition only band, which i really respect the heck out of. They work very hard to make sure that anyone who wants to be in their band, can be. I don't think that's the case. There are plenty of other bands in the country that aren't following the change-the-uniform every year trend that other bands are and are still seeing a lot of success. The one that instantly comes to my mind is Carmel, who's only had a slight update to their uniforms back in 2019, and are still strong favorites to win Nationals year in and year out. And if I'm not mistaken (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on what I'm about to say), I believe Carmel isn't an audition-only band. Add some of the major Texas bands like Reagan and Hebron to great bands that doesn't change uniform designs annually. Rosemount is not audition-only except for incoming 9th graders, I believe. In fact Rosemount only started changing uniforms last year. While I'm actually a fan of this concept, IMO its a very small aspect of visual score. Yes there's Broken Arrow, Avon, CTJ, FOMO changing every year, but then there's Carmel, Hebron, Reagan. Musical and visual performance separates the annual greats, not uniforms.
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Post by philodemus on Oct 10, 2022 10:13:08 GMT -6
Just to throw it out there on the changing uniforms issue: most groups aren't buying fully constructed 'band uniforms' every year. The dye sublimation printed 'performance shirts' are fairly inexpensive and if combined with a shako wrap... whamo! New look for the year.
I mean, it costs something, don't get me wrong, but it might not be as bad as you're imagining.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 10, 2022 10:30:24 GMT -6
I'm a big fan of performance shirts underneath sleeveless uniform shells. It maintains the uniform, but also ties it into the show. I can't stand performance shirts on their own...I know they're inexpensive, but without any sort of structure they don't look flattering. I'd rather a generic, well-fitted uniform that works for all students than something themed to the show that looks bad. Just my personal opinion In my personal experience, we auditioned guard, percussion, and wind parts. Every band member got to march, but it was very much possible to have your spot cut and replaced, and instead be put on the visual line. This seems to be a fairly common model for bands that can't afford to cut a large amount of students by hosting marching auditions, but can afford to relocate those marchers whose skills aren't quite in line with expectations yet. Rock Bridge (MO) doesn't compete in BOA outside of the occasional regional, but the band has a sort of blended model for auditions - marching band is optional for the Concert and Symphonic ensembles, but mandatory for Wind Ensemble. An audition for the top ensemble is an audition for the marching band, at least on a musical level.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Oct 12, 2022 16:56:22 GMT -6
New Jersey: Elizabeth was 2.8 points away from Verona and got last place last week but in 10/8 they were just 0.2 points away from Verona and placing 2nd out of 4 bands. Btw Verona didn't win any captions but still won. Elizabeth won best GE and Visual and what is surprising to see is Scotch Plains-Fanwood (3rd place) winning the Music caption with a big margin.
JPS getting 3rd place and South Brunswick getting 2nd place.
Hillsborough getting 1st place beating Liverpool (NY), Passaic (NJ), Egg Harbor (NJ)
New Providence (NJ) wins another Yamaha Cup/Ludwig Musser: six year in top 3 in Group VI A and V A winning 3 of those year including this year beating New Hartford (NY), Ramsey (NJ), and Port Chester (NY), PCTVS (NJ)
Pequannock Township has been in the up and up after Covid. They were highest ranking A Class.
Tenafly and Montgomery are blowing my socks off this year. Both bands who were festival-ish band are just having great competitive year. Tenafly getting 2nd place in Class 3A and Montgomery just sounding so good and those Lows, way beyond their past years.
West Deptford and Southern Regional coming neck and neck 87.80 and 87.50. Southern Regional could get their 7th win at TOB ACC
Brick Memorial winning the Sayreville competition above by 1 point from everyone else.
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Post by tresed on Oct 12, 2022 20:47:49 GMT -6
I often wonder if part of what keeps Lincoln separated from some of the other bands (ie Rosemount) isn't band uniform related. I feel like the other bands with bigger budgets have uniform changes yearly. Lincoln isn't allowed to purchase new band uniforms until 2024, I believe, and then they will be stuck with those for another 10 years, unless all this winning helps their cause in that area. That and maybe the fact that they are not an audition only band, which i really respect the heck out of. They work very hard to make sure that anyone who wants to be in their band, can be. 100% on BOA for Brandon Valley. This is definitely not the case. Rosemount simply outperformed Lincoln and had a better run in finals.
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Post by bandmom06 on Oct 14, 2022 12:36:19 GMT -6
I often wonder if part of what keeps Lincoln separated from some of the other bands (ie Rosemount) isn't band uniform related. I feel like the other bands with bigger budgets have uniform changes yearly. Lincoln isn't allowed to purchase new band uniforms until 2024, I believe, and then they will be stuck with those for another 10 years, unless all this winning helps their cause in that area. That and maybe the fact that they are not an audition only band, which i really respect the heck out of. They work very hard to make sure that anyone who wants to be in their band, can be. This is definitely not the case. Rosemount simply outperformed Lincoln and had a better run in finals. Sorry, I clearly did not explain myself well. I'm not saying that at all. I am basically just wondering if Lincolns 10 year old uniforms hold them back in some of their scores. I don't know if judges take that into account at all or not.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus_Rex on Oct 20, 2022 19:16:58 GMT -6
What bands in the upper midwest are groups that audition for members? I am unaware of any bands in the upper Midwest that have audition requirements. I know Rosemount requires some freshman to audition, but everyone else can simply join.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Oct 23, 2022 14:48:16 GMT -6
Mississippi: PETAL HS (MS 5time State Champion and consistent State finalist) didn't make FINALS first time in their history I believe. Shocked. ---- Southaven again placing in the bottom tier of States COVID really hurt their program ---- Hernando (MS) lost States to Germantown (MS) losing every caption but Best Percussion
DeSoto (MS) getting third place but winning Visual
Germantown (MS) winning its first 6A State Championships in their 3-year history in Class 6A 🥳🥳🥳and making a total of 3 States wins overall in Class 5A and 6A in their 12-year history since opening and 2022 BOA Indianapolis SR Class 2A 3rd place Champion.
2011: 4th place (4A) 2012: Didn't Compete 2013: 1st place (5A) 2014: 2nd place (5A) 2015: 3rd place (5A) 2016: 7th place (5A) 2017: 1st place (5A) 2018: 2nd place (5A) 2019: 9th place (6A) 2021: 6th place (6A) 2022: 1st place (6A)
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Post by iwasinbandbackthen on Oct 26, 2022 10:32:05 GMT -6
This is definitely not the case. Rosemount simply outperformed Lincoln and had a better run in finals. Sorry, I clearly did not explain myself well. I'm not saying that at all. I am basically just wondering if Lincolns 10 year old uniforms hold them back in some of their scores. I don't know if judges take that into account at all or not. Lincoln was 3rd in individual visual, 4th in ensemble visual, and 3rd in visual GE at the St. Louis Super Regional. I don't think their uniforms hurt them. If anything, I wonder if non-traditional uniforms can hurt sometimes if they aren't in a consistent color pallete. Mustang, OK has their band block in tuxedos of varying pastels. Watching their show, the color pallete just made a lot of things look pretty dirty. They were 14th in individual visual in finals at St. Louis. Mustang as a whole was 3rd in prelims in St. Louis, but 17th in individual visual and 18th in ensemble visual.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Oct 30, 2022 9:53:36 GMT -6
BREAKING NEWS: 12 hours before Halloween San Marcos HS (CA) just stabbed Vista Murrieta HS (CA) in the back and won the (WBA) Super SoCal Show by just 0.063 of a point. Coldblooded murder.👻
James Logan (CA) ate everyone up and left no flesh. They had lead of 2.588 and were the grand champion of the Independence FT.
Legacy (CO) was pushed down the stairs, falling into second place losing their streak and the culprit was Fossil Ridge (CO) with a big gap both in semifinals (by 2 points) and Finals (by 1.8 points).
Centaurus (CO) who was expected to win State was body slammed in reality by Loveland (CO) with a lead in semifinals of 1.3 points and then 1 point in Finals. Loveland (CO) getting second year in a row.
Air Academy (CO) in 3rd.
Congrats for both Loveland and Fossil Ridge. 🥳🥳🥳
With a weird turn of events Trumbull (CT) getting USBands States Champion beating Norwalk (CT) by just 0.2 points.🥳🥳🥳
South Jones (MS) and Booneville (MS), Sebastopol (MS) won their States again. Stone HS (MS) lost their long streak to Columbia (MS). Congrats East Webster (MS) for winning Class 2A State.
JM Hanks (TX) won the NMSU TOB again making its 4th year.
Cedar Valley (UT) is creeping up Green Valley (UT) back and winning Music. American Fork (UT) with another massacre in the Davis Cup Invitational.
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Post by srv1084 on Oct 30, 2022 12:06:41 GMT -6
BREAKING NEWS: 12 hours before Halloween San Marcos HS (CA) just stabbed Vista Murrieta HS (CA) in the back and won the (WBA) Super SoCal Show by just 0.063 of a point. Coldblooded murder.👻 James Logan (CA) ate everyone up and left no flesh. They had lead of 2.588 and were the grand champion of the Independence FT. Legacy (CO) was pushed down the stairs, falling into second place losing their streak and the culprit was Fossil Ridge (CO) with a big gap both in semifinals (by 2 points) and Finals (by 1.8 points). Centaurus (CO) who was expected to win State was body slammed in reality by Loveland (CO) with a lead in semifinals of 1.3 points and then 1 point in Finals. Loveland (CO) getting second year in a row. Air Academy (CO) in 3rd. Congrats for both Loveland and Fossil Ridge. 🥳🥳🥳 With a weird turn of events Trumbull (CT) getting USBands States Champion beating Norwalk (CT) by just 0.2 points.🥳🥳🥳 South Jones (MS) and Booneville (MS), Sebastopol (MS) won their States again. Stone HS (MS) lost their long streak to Columbia (MS). Congrats East Webster (MS) for winning Class 2A State. JM Hanks (TX) won the NMSU TOB again making its 4th year. Cedar Valley (UT) is creeping up Green Valley (UT) back and winning Music. American Fork (UT) with another massacre in the Davis Cup Invitational. Very interesting to see Hernando go to the regional over their state championships (and Harrison Central, plus Desoto Central until they pulled out). Wonder if that shows a commitment to BOA that means we'll see them at Nats sometime soon? The San Marcos results are kind of shocking, especially since Vista Murrieta beat them by about three points last week! Sounds like things are going to be very interesting at St. George this year. Amador Valley is enormous as always, but watching their show I felt like this is a band that could do very well in BOA if they were to attend again.
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Post by pitplayer19 on Oct 30, 2022 12:15:35 GMT -6
This confirms to me that San Marcos will be in a very solid 2nd place at St. George, with maybe taking or tying a caption with AF. The point spread might not be as big as we originally thought.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Oct 30, 2022 12:28:39 GMT -6
1.) Very interesting to see Hernando go to the regional over their state championships (and Harrison Central, plus Desoto Central until they pulled out). Wonder if that shows a commitment to BOA that means we'll see them at Nats sometime soon? 1.) Hernando/DeSoto Central/Harrison Central has their States last week.This week was Class 1A-5A MS States. Mississippi State 6A Finals 91.725: Germantown, MS (Best M and GE) (Best CG) 90.075: Hernando, MS (Best Percussion) 89.700: DeSoto Central, MS (Best Visual)87.425: Pearl, MS 86.225: Lewisburg, MS 83.625: Clinton, MS 82.925: Oak Grove, MS 81.525: Olive Branch, MS ------Prelims Scores---------- 79.300: Petal, MS 77.400: Harrison Central, MS - that's the reason I didn't they wouldn't make finals in Jacksonville San Marcos is so cool this year they can for sure make top 3 at BOA.
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Post by srv1084 on Oct 30, 2022 12:42:15 GMT -6
1.) Very interesting to see Hernando go to the regional over their state championships (and Harrison Central, plus Desoto Central until they pulled out). Wonder if that shows a commitment to BOA that means we'll see them at Nats sometime soon? 1.) Hernando/DeSoto Central/Harrison Central has their States last week.This week was Class 1A-5A MS States. Mississippi State 6A Finals 91.725: Germantown, MS (Best M and GE) (Best CG) 90.075: Hernando, MS (Best Percussion) 89.700: DeSoto Central, MS (Best Visual)87.425: Pearl, MS 86.225: Lewisburg, MS 83.625: Clinton, MS 82.925: Oak Grove, MS 81.525: Olive Branch, MS ------Prelims Scores---------- 79.300: Petal, MS 77.400: Harrison Central, MS - that's the reason I didn't they wouldn't make finals in Jacksonville San Marcos is so cool this year they can for sure make top 3 at BOA. Ah, gotcha. Thanks for that. Interesting they're on different weekends, but even more interesting is the spread here between Hernando and Harrison Central vs. the regional. I'm used to seeing spreads in local circuits being smaller than in BOA, but it appears to be the opposite here.
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