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Post by dbalash on Oct 30, 2023 19:33:05 GMT -6
Schedule as of 10/25 has Sullivan, MO now at 10:45 AM on Friday.
Day 1 schedule has not changed, day 2 is as follows, starting now at 8:00 AM:
8:00 a.m. – Bourbon County H.S., KY
8:15 a.m – Neosho H.S., MO
8:30 a.m. – TL Hanna H.S., SC
8:45 a.m – Green Hope H.S., NC
9:00 a.m. – Dripping Springs H.S., TX
9:15 a.m. – Station Camp H.S., TN
9:30 a.m.- Keller H.S., TX
9:45 a.m. – Blue Springs H.S., MO
10:00 a.m. – Mount Pleasant H.S., MI
10:15 a.m. – Bentonville H.S., AR
10:30 a.m. – BREAK
10:45 a.m. – Sullivan H.S., MO
11:00 a.m. – Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH
11:15 a.m. – Logan Elm H.S., OH
11:30 a.m. – Bartlett H.S., TN
11:45 a.m. – Hebron H.S., TX
12:00 p.m.. – Dartmouth H.S., MA
12:15 p.m. – Arlington H.S., TN
12:30 p.m. – Nordonia H.S., OH
12:45 p.m. – Blue Valley H.S., KS
1:00 p.m – Plymouth-Canton Educational Park, MI
1:15 p.m. – The Woodlands H.S., TX
1:30 p.m. – Hickory H.S., VA
1:45 p.m. – BREAK
2:15 p.m. – William Howard Taft H.S., IL
2:30 p.m. – Huron Valley Marching Band, MI
2:45 p.m. – Avon H.S., OH
3:00 p.m. – Marian Catholic H.S., IL
3:15 p.m. – Munster H.S., IN
3:30 p.m. – Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
3:45 p.m. – Lawrence Township, IN
4:00 p.m. – Ohio County H.S., KY
4:15 p.m. – Lake Central H.S., IN
4:30 p.m. – Round Rock H.S., TX
4:45 p.m. – BREAK
5:30 p.m. – Bellbrook H.S., OH
5:45 p.m. – Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
6:00 p.m. – Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
6:15 p.m. – St. Clairsville H.S., OH
6:30 p.m. – Lake Hamilton H.S., AR
6:45 p.m. – Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
7:00 p.m. – Meade County H.S., KY
7:15 p.m. – Grayson County H.S., KY
7:30 p.m. – Collinsville H.S., IL
7:45 p.m. – Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
8:00 p.m. – In Exhibition: University of Alabama Million Dollar Band
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 31, 2023 7:53:19 GMT -6
Sullivan's move makes the panel split 45 on panel 1 and 48 on panel 2. I won't be surprised to see another change to get it back to 46/47.
Easiest options to do so without moving any bands to an earlier start time are Brownsburg to after the 2nd break on Thursday or another change on Friday moving Hickory after the 2nd break.
Brownsburg moving seems more likely.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 31, 2023 8:58:34 GMT -6
Sullivan's move makes the panel split 45 on panel 1 and 48 on panel 2. I won't be surprised to see another change to get it back to 46/47. Easiest options to do so without moving any bands to an earlier start time are Brownsburg to after the 2nd break on Thursday or another change on Friday moving Hickory after the 2nd break. Brownsburg moving seems more likely. I wouldn't be mad about that....
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Post by keshafan on Oct 31, 2023 9:15:35 GMT -6
Sullivan's move makes the panel split 45 on panel 1 and 48 on panel 2. I won't be surprised to see another change to get it back to 46/47. Easiest options to do so without moving any bands to an earlier start time are Brownsburg to after the 2nd break on Thursday or another change on Friday moving Hickory after the 2nd break. Brownsburg moving seems more likely. If I'm not mistaken, this change moves Sullivan from panel 1 to panel 2, which (very) slimly increases their chances for sneaking into a class A rep spot. It's still not likely given how amazing these class A bands are, but I can dream.
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Post by keshafan on Oct 31, 2023 12:37:58 GMT -6
My spur of the moment and vibes-based prelims predictions for your viewing pleasure/displeasure.
1.) Hebron - Panel 2 2.) Carmel - Panel 2 3.) Avon - Panel 2 4.) The Woodlands - Panel 2 5.) William Mason - Panel 1 6.) Blue Springs - Panel 1 7.) Pearland - Panel 1 8.) Brownsburg - Panel 2 9.) Round Rock - Panel 1 10.) Claudia Taylor Johnson - Panel 2 11.) Keller - Panel 1 12.) James Bowie - Panel 1
13.) Fishers - Panel 2 14.) Bentonville - Panel 1 15.) Homestead - Panel 2 16.) Dripping Springs - Panel 1 17.) Rockford - Panel 2 18.) Centerville - Panel 2 19.) Carroll - Panel 2 20.) Center Grove - Next 8 21.) Morton - Panel 1 22.) Bartlett - Next 8 23.) Kiski Area - Next 8 24.) Marian Catholic - Panel 1 25.) Arlington - Next 8 26.) Dartmouth - Next 8 27.) Miamisburg - Panel 1 28.) Nation Ford - Next 8 29.) Worthington Kilbourne - Next 8 30.) Bourbon County - Next 8
Class Reps - Archbishop Alter and Estill County(both class A panel 2) -Beechwood and possibly Sullivan will be right there to snag one of these panel 2 rep spots. Norton could upset class A panel 1, but I see Bourbon and Marian as the clear favorites there.
I'm sure there are some contenders that I missed here, it's a lot to work through.
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 31, 2023 12:40:00 GMT -6
Worthington Kilbourne(Class AAA panel 1) -I have them barely in on score, but if they don't get in on score I believe they'll be in for class rep(unless I'm missing somebody.) Kilbourne is AA.
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Post by keshafan on Oct 31, 2023 13:10:32 GMT -6
Worthington Kilbourne(Class AAA panel 1) -I have them barely in on score, but if they don't get in on score I believe they'll be in for class rep(unless I'm missing somebody.) Kilbourne is AA. Thanks, I edited that last part out. Now that class rep is out I hope they can sneak in on score, they did really well at the Centerville competition.
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Post by ohbandfan on Oct 31, 2023 18:20:26 GMT -6
I just watched a video of Hebrons UIL performance… if they don’t win music I will be extremely surprised 😭 I honestly think Kevin will be taking a vacation in Texas this year
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Post by salvation on Oct 31, 2023 18:31:13 GMT -6
I just watched a video of Hebrons UIL performance… if they don’t win music I will be extremely surprised 😭 I honestly think Kevin will be taking a vacation in Texas this year Disagree, I think Carmel/Avon are just too outstanding considering the big Texas bands that are coming up have at least a caption of theirs that isn't great. (TWHS Music, Hebron Vis, etc.)
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Post by ohbandfan on Oct 31, 2023 18:48:24 GMT -6
Disagree, I think Carmel/Avon are just too outstanding considering the big Texas bands that are coming up have at least a caption of theirs that isn't great. (TWHS Music, Hebron Vis, etc.) I guess we’ll just have to see next week. I think Hebron's music scores could be enough to pull them through
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Post by crowncrawler on Oct 31, 2023 19:46:44 GMT -6
I think Hebron wins music and Avon wins visual...no idea about GE, maybe Carmel?
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 31, 2023 19:52:13 GMT -6
I think we may need to consider TL Hanna as a potential semi finalist considering they beat Catawba Ridge in 4A at the South Carolina state championships. Unsure of the differences between sheets though.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 31, 2023 21:09:32 GMT -6
I think Hebron wins music and Avon wins visual...no idea about GE, maybe Carmel? I would die for split captions…maybe even some ties 🤞🏻
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Post by datbandman01482 on Oct 31, 2023 21:46:26 GMT -6
6A UIL results are spicy!!!!!! Will be interesting to see how team texas comes in swingin for grand nationals. Maybe we are reading too much into texas and the midwest takes charge of finals, with the usual suspects of Hebron and Woodlands ... not sold on CTJ, Keller, and others
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 31, 2023 22:41:58 GMT -6
After seeing Kellers UIL Prelims perf., I would be shocked if they don’t make it. Like I said visual program is a little lacking in content, but it’s clean - and clean wins
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Post by came on Nov 1, 2023 6:40:59 GMT -6
My spur of the moment and vibes-based prelims predictions for your viewing pleasure/displeasure. 1.) Hebron - Panel 2 2.) Carmel - Panel 2 3.) Avon - Panel 2 4.) The Woodlands - Panel 2 5.) William Mason - Panel 1 6.) Blue Springs - Panel 1 7.) Pearland - Panel 1 8.) Brownsburg - Panel 2 9.) Round Rock - Panel 1 10.) Claudia Taylor Johnson - Panel 2 11.) Keller - Panel 1 12.) James Bowie - Panel 1 13.) Fishers - Panel 2 14.) Bentonville - Panel 1 15.) Homestead - Panel 2 16.) Dripping Springs - Panel 1 17.) Rockford - Panel 2 18.) Centerville - Panel 2 19.) Carroll - Panel 2 20.) Center Grove - Next 8 21.) Morton - Panel 1 22.) Bartlett - Next 8 23.) Kiski Area - Next 8 24.) Marian Catholic - Panel 1 25.) Arlington - Next 8 26.) Dartmouth - Next 8 27.) Miamisburg - Panel 1 28.) Nation Ford - Next 8 29.) Worthington Kilbourne - Next 8 30.) Bourbon County - Next 8 Class Reps - Archbishop Alter and Estill County(both class A panel 2) -Beechwood and possibly Sullivan will be right there to snag one of these panel 2 rep spots. Norton could upset class A panel 1, but I see Bourbon and Marian as the clear favorites there. I'm sure there are some contenders that I missed here, it's a lot to work through. WALLED LAKE
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Post by keshafan on Nov 1, 2023 8:55:28 GMT -6
My spur of the moment and vibes-based prelims predictions for your viewing pleasure/displeasure. 1.) Hebron - Panel 2 2.) Carmel - Panel 2 3.) Avon - Panel 2 4.) The Woodlands - Panel 2 5.) William Mason - Panel 1 6.) Blue Springs - Panel 1 7.) Pearland - Panel 1 8.) Brownsburg - Panel 2 9.) Round Rock - Panel 1 10.) Claudia Taylor Johnson - Panel 2 11.) Keller - Panel 1 12.) James Bowie - Panel 1 13.) Fishers - Panel 2 14.) Bentonville - Panel 1 15.) Homestead - Panel 2 16.) Dripping Springs - Panel 1 17.) Rockford - Panel 2 18.) Centerville - Panel 2 19.) Carroll - Panel 2 20.) Center Grove - Next 8 21.) Morton - Panel 1 22.) Bartlett - Next 8 23.) Kiski Area - Next 8 24.) Marian Catholic - Panel 1 25.) Arlington - Next 8 26.) Dartmouth - Next 8 27.) Miamisburg - Panel 1 28.) Nation Ford - Next 8 29.) Worthington Kilbourne - Next 8 30.) Bourbon County - Next 8 Class Reps - Archbishop Alter and Estill County(both class A panel 2) -Beechwood and possibly Sullivan will be right there to snag one of these panel 2 rep spots. Norton could upset class A panel 1, but I see Bourbon and Marian as the clear favorites there. I'm sure there are some contenders that I missed here, it's a lot to work through. WALLED LAKE This is probably right. I dont know Northern states very well. I had plymouth Canton as one of the next bubble groups on my list which, if true would put Walled Lake in the next 8. I'm curious how close behind Rockford they were last weekend but I dont know when Michigan releases scores.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 1, 2023 13:29:01 GMT -6
I just watched a video of Hebrons UIL performance… if they don’t win music I will be extremely surprised 😭 I honestly think Kevin will be taking a vacation in Texas this year Disagree, I think Carmel/Avon are just too outstanding considering the big Texas bands that are coming up have at least a caption of theirs that isn't great. (TWHS Music, Hebron Vis, etc.) A more accurate description to me would be that TWHS's Music isn't AS great as their visual/GE and that Hebron's visual isn't AS great as their music.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 1, 2023 13:30:20 GMT -6
I think Hebron wins music and Avon wins visual...no idea about GE, maybe Carmel? I would die for split captions…maybe even some ties 🤞🏻 I would be on board with three different caption winners and a fourth band taking the Eagle (looking at you TWHS, Blue Springs, and William Mason).
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Post by dbalash on Nov 1, 2023 13:58:12 GMT -6
I would die for split captions…maybe even some ties 🤞🏻 I would be on board with three different caption winners and a fourth band taking the Eagle (looking at you TWHS, Blue Springs, and William Mason). No! No more 2001 debacles!
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Post by twhsalumniparent on Nov 1, 2023 14:24:12 GMT -6
Disagree, I think Carmel/Avon are just too outstanding considering the big Texas bands that are coming up have at least a caption of theirs that isn't great. (TWHS Music, Hebron Vis, etc.) A more accurate description to me would be that TWHS's Music isn't AS great as their visual/GE and that Hebron's visual isn't AS great as their music. To further this, in finals, TWHS was 5th in music ensemble. So maybe Hebron pops a 19.7 music score, and TWHS "only" gets a 19.1.
Flip that on visual ensemble, where Hebron was 7th and TWHS was 1st. Maybe TWHS pops a 19.4 visual and Hebron "only" gets an 18.8.
In both scenarios above, the performances are both great. How will that hold up against Carmel, Avon, William Mason, Blue Springs, etc? None of those bands have competed against the depth of quality that UIL 6A offers, so being 5th or 7th in a caption in such a strong field may not be as much a weakness as is being portrayed. Or maybe it is. We'll know soon enough!
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 1, 2023 15:04:16 GMT -6
I would be on board with three different caption winners and a fourth band taking the Eagle (looking at you TWHS, Blue Springs, and William Mason). No! No more 2001 debacles! You say debacle, I say balanced top 4.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 1, 2023 15:50:30 GMT -6
I’m going to go ahead and say I have a feeling that we’ll see Bridgeland at Grand Nats in either 2024 or 2025.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2023 20:50:42 GMT -6
I’m not quite convinced Pearland has the last top 6 spot on lock. I really think Round Rock could make a push for it. I love their sound this year
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Post by crowncrawler on Nov 2, 2023 11:28:49 GMT -6
I’m going to go ahead and say I have a feeling that we’ll see Bridgeland at Grand Nats in either 2024 or 2025. Yes please
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Post by rhythmmarimba on Nov 2, 2023 12:33:20 GMT -6
Prediction before San Antonio:
1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Hebron 4. Woodlands 5. Blue Springs 6. William Mason 7. Pearland 8. Brownsburg 9. Round Rock 10. Keller 11. CTJ 12. Dripping Springs FO. Fishers
Music: Hebron Visual: Avon General Effect: Avon
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Post by themarcingdepthsofoh on Nov 2, 2023 22:43:01 GMT -6
Okay guys, im back! I said I was going to post at the beginning of the weeks leading up to Grand Nats, but unfortunately I’ve been fighting sickness and make up at work soooo… couldn’t really focus on lists and predictions. But I am back! Boy a lot has happened including ISSMA Finals results, UIL Finals Results, and BOA Super Regionals St. Louis. WOOF! That was a lot of catch up on trust me, but I have to get in predictions this week to keep up a little bit of my promise, and also get something pre-San Antonio Supers which will likely change my predictions for better or worse. Anyways, last time I made very generic predictions. It is time to narrow down the gaps, and specify some of my groupings rather than just “Locks”, “Probables”, “Bubble”, and “Doubtful”. If I missed anyone let me know, and like always please remember that I am making a subjective opinion over a subjective competition based off of different subjective scorings/placements from different dates, locations, and circuits. WOOF!
Grand Nats Prediction(Alphabetical Order)
Finals Top 3 Avon, IN Carmel, IN Hebron, TX
Top 5 Blue Springs, MO The Woodlands, TX
Top 10 Brownsburg, IN CTJ,,TX Pearland, TX Round Rock, TX William Mason, OH
Finals Bottom 2 Bentonville, AR Fishers, IN
First Out Dripping Springs, TX
14-18 Centerville, OH Dartmouth, MA Kiski Area, PA Keller, TX Rockford, MI
Top 20 Bartlett, TN James Bowie, TX
Top 25 Carroll, IN Center Grove, IN Homestead, IN Morton, IL Nation Ford, SC
I cannot wait for this show, and am very excited for this weekend of performances to complete my predictions and release my officially placement predictions for top 25 BOA Grand Nats 2023 early next week!
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Post by es203 on Nov 2, 2023 23:00:32 GMT -6
Hot take
Music: Tie between Avon and Hebron Visual: Carmel GE: The Woodlands
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 2, 2023 23:17:18 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIMS SCHEDULE AS OF 09/20/2023
THURSDAY Panel 1 8:15 - Batesville H.S., IN 8:30 - Orleans Jr./Sr. H.S., IN 8:45 - Taylor H.S., OH 9:00 - Fairfield Jr./Sr. H.S., IN 9:15 - West Carrollton H.S., OH 9:30 - Christian County H.S., KY 9:45 - Carlisle H.S., OH 10:00 - Cabell Midland H.S., WV 10:15 - Lebanon H.S., OH 10:30 - Finneytown H.S., OH 10:45 - Walled Lake Schools, MI 11:00 - Tippecanoe H.S., OH
11:15 - Indianapolis Public School Music Showcase
BREAK
Panel 2 11:45 - Beechwood H.S., KY 12:00 - Rockford H.S., MI 12:15 - Homestead H.S., IN 12:30 - Tri-Valley H.S., IL 12:45 - Southwestern H.S., KY 1:00 - Chattahoochee H.S., GA 1:15 - Estill County H.S., KY 1:30 - East Clinton H.S., OH 1:45 - Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 2:00 - Woodford County H.S., KY 2:15 - Centerville H.S., OH 2:30 - Monrovia H.S., IN 2:45 - Brownsburg H.S., IN
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Panel 1 3:15 - James Bowie H.S., TX 3:30 - Milford H.S., OH 3:45 - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH 4:00 - Warren Local H.S., OH 4:15 - Russell Independent H.S., KY 4:30 - Tri County H.S., MI 4:45 - Morton H.S., IL 5:00 - Norton H.S., OH 5:15 - William Mason H.S., OH 5:30 - John Hardin H.S., KY 5:45 - Pearland H.S., TX 6:00 - Greenon Jr./Sr. H.S., OH 6:15 - Miamisburg H.S., OH
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Panel 2 7:00 - Kiski Area H.S., PA 7:15 - Nation Ford H.S., SC 7:30 - Columbus Schools, IN 7:45 - Center Grove H.S., IN 8:00 - Carroll H.S., IN 8:15 - Wilmington H.S., OH 8:30 - Fishers H.S., IN 8:45 - Avon H.S., IN 9:00 - Piqua H.S., OH 9:15 - Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV 9:30 - Carmel H.S., IN 9:45 - Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX 10:00 - Hamilton H.S., OH
FRIDAY Panel 1 7:15 - Bourbon County H.S., KY 7:30 - Neosho H.S., MO 7:45 - TL Hanna H.S., SC 8:00 - Green Hope H.S., NC 8:15 - Sullivan H.S., MO 8:30 - Dripping Springs H.S., TX 8:45 - Station Camp H.S., TN 9:00 - Keller H.S., TX 9:15 - Blue Springs H.S., MO 9:30 - Mount Pleasant H.S., MI 9:45 - Bentonville H.S., AR
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Panel 2 10:45 - Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH 11:00 - Logan Elm H.S., OH 11:15 - Bartlett H.S., TN 11:30 - Hebron H.S., TX 11:45 - Dartmouth H.S., MA 12:00 - Arlington H.S., TN 12:15 - Nordonia H.S., OH 12:30 - Blue Valley H.S., KS 12:45 - Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI 1:00 - The Woodlands H.S., TX 1:15 - Hickory H.S., VA
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Panel 1 2:15 - William Howard Taft H.S., IL 2:30 - Huron Valley, MI 2:45 - Avon H.S., OH 3:00 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL 3:15 - Munster H.S., IN 3:30 - Shawe Memorial H.S., IN 3:45 - Lawrence Township, IN 4:00 - Ohio County H.S., KY 4:15 - Lake Central H.S., IN 4:30 - Round Rock H.S., TX
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Panel 2 5:30 - Bellbrook H.S., OH 5:45 - Clinton-Massie H.S., OH 6:00 - Christian Academy of Louisville, KY 6:15 - St. Clairsville H.S., OH 6:30 - Lake Hamilton H.S., AR 6:45 - Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH 7:00 - Meade County H.S., KY 7:15 - Grayson County H.S., KY 7:30 - Collinsville H.S., IL 7:45 - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
8:00 - EXH. Univ. of Alabama Million Dollar Band
CLASS A: Archbishop Alter H.S., OH Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH Batesville H.S., IN Beechwood H.S., KY Bishop Fenwick H.S., OH Bourbon County H.S., KY Carlisle H.S., OH Christian Academy of Louisville, KY Clinton-Massie H.S., OH East Clinton H.S., OH Estill County H.S., KY Fairfield Jr./Sr. H.S., IN Finneytown H.S., OH Greenon Jr./Sr. H.S., OH John Hardin H.S., KY Logan Elm H.S., OH Marian Catholic H.S., IL Monrovia H.S., IN Norton H.S., OH Orleans Jr./Sr. H.S., IN Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV Russell Independent H.S., KY Shawe Memorial H.S., IN St. Clairsville H.S., OH Sullivan H.S., MO Tri County H.S., MI Tri-Valley H.S., IL Warren Local H.S., OH
CLASS AA: Avon H.S., OH Bellbrook H.S., OH Blue Valley H.S., KS Christian County H.S., KY Dartmouth H.S., MA Grayson County H.S., KY Hickory H.S., VA Kiski Area H.S., PA Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Lebanon H.S., OH Meade County H.S., KY Miamisburg H.S., OH Morton H.S., IL Mount Pleasant H.S., MI Munster H.S., IN Neosho H.S., MO Nordonia H.S., OH Ohio County H.S., KY Piqua H.S., OH Southwestern H.S., KY Station Camp H.S., TN Taylor H.S., OH Tippecanoe H.S., OH Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH West Carrollton H.S., OH Wilmington H.S., OH Woodford County H.S., KY Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH
CLASS AAA: Arlington H.S., TN Blue Springs H.S., MO Cabell Midland H.S., WV Chattahootchee H.S., GA Collinsville H.S., IL Green Hope H.S., NC Hamilton H.S., OH Homestead H.S., IN Milford H.S., OH Nation Ford H.S., SC Rockford H.S., MI TL Hanna H.S., SC
CLASS AAAA: Avon H.S., IN Bartlett H.S., TN Bentonville H.S., AR Brownsburg H.S., IN Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Center Grove H.S., IN Centerville H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Columbus Schools, IN Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Hebron H.S., TX Huron Valley, MI James Bowie H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Lake Central H.S., IN Lawrence Township, IN Pearland H.S., TX Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Round Rock H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX Walled Lake Schools, MI William Howard Taft H.S., IL William Mason H.S., OH
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 3, 2023 4:55:20 GMT -6
Hot take Music: Tie between Avon and Hebron Visual: Carmel GE: The Woodlands With a 5th different band taking the Eagle! (Since es203 gave a caption to TWHS, that means I'm looking at you Blue Springs and Mason). This also eliminates dbalash 's concern about "another 2001 debacle" by getting even more chaotic.
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