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Post by formingquad on Oct 22, 2023 7:58:42 GMT -6
Anyone know when ISSMA drops the schedule for finals? Please let me know! Thank you.
Also remember that this event is now live streamed by Box 5, im so glad they did this
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 22, 2023 8:06:33 GMT -6
It should be set sometime this afternoon.
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Post by paddy on Oct 22, 2023 8:41:47 GMT -6
The schedule is known to the band directors already due the the pre-draw.
Class B order:
North Side
jasper
Northview
Munster
Ev North
Greenfield
Greenwood
Concord
Bloomington North
Reitz
Class B is first this year and starts at 10 am.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 22, 2023 9:11:06 GMT -6
The schedule is known to the band directors already due the the pre-draw. Class B order: North Side jasper Northview Munster Ev North Greenfield Greenwood Concord Bloomington North Reitz Class B is first this year and starts at 10 am. How long have they been doing a pre-draw? Didn't they used to do an actual draw on Sunday afternoon? |
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Post by paddy on Oct 22, 2023 9:27:05 GMT -6
The schedule is known to the band directors already due the the pre-draw. Class B order: North Side jasper Northview Munster Ev North Greenfield Greenwood Concord Bloomington North Reitz Class B is first this year and starts at 10 am. How long have they been doing a pre-draw? Didn't they used to do an actual draw on Sunday afternoon? Not long. 5 years tops. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 22, 2023 9:36:57 GMT -6
Anyone know the A draw?
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Post by TrumpetMom on Oct 22, 2023 9:56:54 GMT -6
I know Fishers has the unfortunate position of going first. |
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Post by formingquad on Oct 22, 2023 10:15:21 GMT -6
I know Fishers has the unfortunate position of going first. I know Goshen is on second |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 22, 2023 11:27:07 GMT -6
So far I’ve heard:
1 - Fishers
2 - Goshen
3 - Homestead
4 - Carroll
5 - Center Grove
6 - Avon
I also know Carmel performs before Brownsburg but I’m not sure if there is anyone between them.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 22, 2023 13:03:59 GMT -6
This is another example of how FloMarching does some things better than Box5. I already paid a considerable amount of money for the Box5 Pro Pass so I could watch as many BOA comps as I am able to. But if I want to watch ISSMA (and I would love to), I have to pay yet even more money. At least with Flo, you get unlimited access for $29.99 a month.
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Post by bandmom2 on Oct 22, 2023 13:12:14 GMT -6
The entire list is on IN Bands - no times, but presumably the order of performance for all classes. Avon and Carmel perform back to back.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 22, 2023 13:14:07 GMT -6
So far I’ve heard: 1 - Fishers 2 - Goshen 3 - Homestead 4 - Carroll 5 - Center Grove 6 - Avon I also know Carmel performs before Brownsburg but I’m not sure if there is anyone between them. I am starting to suspect the order listed on the INBands contest page is the actual order: Fishers Goshen Homestead Carroll Center Grove Avon Carmel Westfield Brownsburg Noblesville |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 22, 2023 13:28:34 GMT -6
I believe so also!
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Post by phantomphan on Oct 22, 2023 15:01:44 GMT -6
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 22, 2023 15:02:02 GMT -6
So far I’ve heard: 1 - Fishers 2 - Goshen 3 - Homestead 4 - Carroll 5 - Center Grove 6 - Avon I also know Carmel performs before Brownsburg but I’m not sure if there is anyone between them. I am starting to suspect the order listed on the INBands contest page is the actual order: Fishers Goshen Homestead Carroll Center Grove Avon Carmel Westfield Brownsburg Noblesville That's not really a bad order. Sucks a bit for Fishers but it puts Homestead/Carroll/CG close together, and Avon/Carmel together. Brownsburg has to be pleased with slipping Westfield in there before they go on. Preliminary prediction, having not seen any semistate scores: 1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Brownsburg 4. Fishers 5. Carroll 6. Homestead 7. Center Grove 8. Noblesville 9. Goshen 10. Westfield. |
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Post by phantomphan on Oct 22, 2023 15:03:43 GMT -6
I believe so also! And yes, you were correct - that is the order of performance! |
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 22, 2023 15:17:07 GMT -6
My predictions for Class A:
1. Carmel
2. Avon
3. Brownsburg
4. Carroll
5. Fishers
6. Homestead
7. Center Grove
8. Noblesville
9. Westfield
10. Goshen
It should be a great Class A State Finals!
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Post by bandfan82 on Oct 22, 2023 15:43:51 GMT -6
Full finals schedule up on IN bands with performance times
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Post by trumpet2006 on Oct 22, 2023 17:27:41 GMT -6
Class B prediction
1. Evansville North
2. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview
3. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview
4. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview
5. Concord
6. Jasper
7. Bloomington North
8. F.J. Reitz
9. Munster
10. North Side
6th - 2nd could go a number of ways but Evansville North is the likely 2023 ISSMA Class B Champion
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Post by paddy on Oct 22, 2023 17:38:38 GMT -6
Class B prediction 1. Evansville North 2. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview 3. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview 4. Greenfield Central/Greenwood/Northview 5. Concord 6. Jasper 7. Bloomington North 8. F.J. Reitz 9. Munster 10. North Side 6th - 2nd could go a number of ways but Evansville North is the likely 2023 ISSMA Class B Champion I agree on north. They are being vastly overscored but they are the favorites. |
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Post by sheperd135188 on Oct 22, 2023 17:42:35 GMT -6
idk jasper had a very good placement at semi state they might make it higher
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Post by trumpet2006 on Oct 22, 2023 18:06:39 GMT -6
Jasper could do very well but semi state scores should always be taken with a grain of salt
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Post by bandfan82 on Oct 23, 2023 9:33:06 GMT -6
Just a reminder. For anyone heading to Lucas for class B, and possibly some of class C, the Indianapolis Monumental Marathon is taking place Saturday morning. Plan travel accordingly. I recommend approaching Lucas Oil from the south to avoid runners and road closures.
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Post by dallasmavericks on Oct 23, 2023 10:56:07 GMT -6
7:45 AM Box office Opens
9:00 AM Stadium Gates Open
Scholastic Class B Exhibition
9:25 AM Eastern (Pekin) Musketeer Brigade
Scholastic Class A Exhibition
9:40 AM Warren Central Gold Brigade Band
Open Class B
10:00 AM North Side Marching Legends
10:15 AM Jasper Marching Wildcats
10:30 AM Northview Marching Knights
10:45 AM Munster Marching Mustangs
11:00 AM Evansville North Green Brigade
11:15 AM Greenfield-Central Cougar Pride
11:30 AM Greenwood Marching Woodmen and Irish Guard
11:45 AM Concord Marching Minutemen
12:00 PM Bloomington North Cougar Band
12:15 PM F.J. Reitz Mighty Marching Panthers
12:30 PM Awards
Open Class C
1:20 PM Beech Grove Marching Hornets
1:35 PM Angola Marching Hornets
1:50 PM Western Marching Panthers
2:05 PM Garrett Railroader Regiment
2:20 PM NorthWood Red Regiment
2:35 PM Fairfield Marching Pride
2:50 PM Edgewood Marching Mustangs
3:05 PM Concordia Lutheran Marching Cadets
3:20 PM Northwestern Tiger Pride
3:35 PM Spirit of Twin Lakes
3:50 PM Awards
Open Class D
4:40 PM Mater Dei Marching Wildcats
4:55 PM Pride of Paoli
5:10 PM Monrovia Bulldog Brigade
5:25 PM Springs Valley Blackhawk Brigade
5:40 PM Jimtown Marching Jimmies
5:55 PM Tell City Marching Marksmen
6:10 PM Adams Central Squadron of Sound
6:25 PM Lewis Cass Marching Kings
6:40 PM Forest Park Marching Rangers
6:55 PM South Spencer Marching Rebels
7:10 PM Awards
Open Class A
8:00 PM Fishers Marching Tiger Band
8:15 PM Goshen Crimson Band
8:30 PM Homestead Spartan Alliance Band
8:45 PM Carroll Charger Pride
9:00 PM Center Grove Marching Band
9:15 PM Avon Marching Black & Gold
9:30 PM Carmel Marching Greyhounds
9:45 PM The Pride of Westfield
10:00 PM Sound of Brownsburg Marching Band
10:15 PM Noblesville Marching Millers
10:30 PM Awards
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Post by horndad on Oct 23, 2023 14:56:25 GMT -6
Could someone explain how a position could be considered good or bad? I can understand having a 10am slot and being 4 hours away but is there more to it?
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Post by indyfan921 on Oct 23, 2023 15:13:32 GMT -6
Could someone explain how a position could be considered good or bad? I can understand having a 10am slot and being 4 hours away but is there more to it? Going first in a group of bands means that you have to set the expectations. If you aren’t so strong, your score will be disproportionately deflated and vice versa. Judges also tend to forget how they scored earlier bands as the day goes on, meaning scores become warped. |
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Post by altosandclarinets on Oct 23, 2023 15:15:44 GMT -6
Could someone explain how a position could be considered good or bad? I can understand having a 10am slot and being 4 hours away but is there more to it? I’m simple terms, a band doesn’t want to go first because I guess it makes you “least memorable” or something like that. The last slot is the most wanted spot because of the score creep throughout the night. (Usually don’t see this at finals at least for me, because there’s only 10 bands) But there’s also cases where for example a band wouldn’t want to go after or before Avon or Carmel as it makes them look a bit less than. That’s at least how I hear it is, I’m sure there’s more to it though. For example goshen got a bad spot going in between fishers and homestead. However brownsburg got a fantastic spot going 2nd to last inbetween Westfield and Noblesville. |
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 23, 2023 15:30:54 GMT -6
Could someone explain how a position could be considered good or bad? I can understand having a 10am slot and being 4 hours away but is there more to it? It's not as simple as "you don't want to go on early," but given the option most groups would rather perform later. But there are plenty of variables. The most obvious reason for not wanting to go on first (or early) is the notion that judges aren't likely to want to give out very high scrores early in the competition, as they need to allow plenty of room on the score sheets for potentially better groups later. This could lead to an early group being scored artificially low. Now one would hope that regardless of what score the first group gets they should be able to properly slot later groups relative to them, but in practice scores seem to get inflated later in a competition. So going first is not ideal. But as far as a performance order, there are many other variables. Who are you following? Who is following you? Would you rather go on first...or following Carmel and Avon later on like Westfield? I think the ideal spot for most groups would be following a couple of groups that you think you're slightly better than, but are pretty good in their own right. They can push the scores up a bit and then you follow and judges will need to go up from there. I think Carroll has a pretty good spot for them even though it's in the first half of finals. Fishers goes on first, then Goshen, then Homestead, then Carroll. Fishers can put up a decent score from the 1 spot, and then it gives the judges a great look at Homestead vs Carroll, and Carroll has been winning that battle so they have to like this scenario. There are always lots of factors and variables concerning what is a good spot or bad spot. Fishers obviously can't be happy, (nor Westfield) but it's not a terrible draw for anyone else in Class A. EDIT: These are just my opinions as an observer, and shouldn't represent any particular group's ideas on the matter. |
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Post by horndad on Oct 23, 2023 15:45:07 GMT -6
Thank you for the replies. Makes perfect sense now. We are right in the middle of class B surrounded by very good bands so it should make for a great competition!
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Post by dallasmavericks on Oct 24, 2023 10:25:45 GMT -6
Class A Predictions (with where I could see variance in placements):
1. Carmel (H:1, L:2)
2. Avon (H:1, L:2)
3. Brownsburg (H:3, L:3)
4. Carroll (H:4, L:6)
5. Homestead (H:4, L:6)
6. Fishers (H:4, L:6)
7. Center Grove (H:7, L:8)
8. Noblesville (H:7, L:8)
9. Westfield (H:9, L:10)
10. Goshen (H:9, L:10)
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