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Post by paddy on Dec 22, 2019 7:50:26 GMT -6
I mean, nothing against Warfield, but I’d like to seen them take a wide look. This is too good a program to simply hand it to a young guy who has been there a couple of seasons. That’s just my opinion though. You never know. Joni Perez at The Woodlands was given the reins after 5 years. If you want to know how far he goes back in the activity, he won the 2004 GN championship with Lawrence Central. Has Master's in Conducting from Ohio State. Tech'ed at SCV and Bloo. Combined with the brief Whiteland year, he has already 4 years under his belt as assistant director- and that Whiteland year is significant because the improvement from 2015 was day and night. Warfield is faaar more than qualified for the head director position. It sounds like he has all the chops to be a a stellar manager of on field product, but that does not make him qualified to be a head director. Especially at a program of that size with a longtime assistant also leaving. I’m not saying he isn’t qualified or can’t do it but the resume above doesn’t tell me what I need to know. Running a large band program isn’t just about on field product and creative work. It is a administrative job that requires skill in budgeting, logistics, strategic planning and (adult) people management.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Dec 22, 2019 8:17:24 GMT -6
You never know. Joni Perez at The Woodlands was given the reins after 5 years. If you want to know how far he goes back in the activity, he won the 2004 GN championship with Lawrence Central. Has Master's in Conducting from Ohio State. Tech'ed at SCV and Bloo. Combined with the brief Whiteland year, he has already 4 years under his belt as assistant director- and that Whiteland year is significant because the improvement from 2015 was day and night. Warfield is faaar more than qualified for the head director position. It sounds like he has all the chops to be a a stellar manager of on field product, but that does not make him qualified to be a head director. Especially at a program of that size with a longtime assistant also leaving. I’m not saying he isn’t qualified or can’t do it but the resume above doesn’t tell me what I need to know. Running a large band program isn’t just about on field product and creative work. It is a administrative job that requires skill in budgeting, logistics, strategic planning and (adult) people management. Correct. I will also be curious to see what sort of staff turnover there might be. Most of that staff, at least the main players, have been around for years. There was continuity between Barber leaving and Wadkins taking over. I'm not sure that the Warfield (or other) transition will result in the same. Of course, that could be good or bad. This is going to be a treacherous time for that program. This is modest sized school (2300) that depends on high student participation and strong parent support. A couple of missteps is all it would take to lose that.
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Post by bandio on Dec 22, 2019 8:44:35 GMT -6
I highly doubt that the long time staff (whoever leaves) and even Wadkins will let this program go downhill. Homestead’s consistency has been incredible. But maybe an anchor? I think old school trumpet wrote that.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Dec 22, 2019 12:37:38 GMT -6
They gave the reigns to Robert Selaiden at Leander when he was basically a youngster as well. He’s never been anywhere else. And look at how we are flourishing with him at the helm. If it’s right, it’s right. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by TeamIndiana on Dec 22, 2019 16:20:15 GMT -6
As some of you know, I am connected to both Carmel and Homestead. When I first heard word of this change from a few friends who are on staff at Homestead, I was completely shocked. I pictured Brad staying with the Spartan Alliance for quite some time.
After taking a few days to think about everything, this actually might be a huge opportunity for Homestead. As OldSchoolTrumpet has stated before, Homestead is a mature program and has had many of the same staff members since their rise to fame. While they’ve always been a successful program, lately it has seemed as if their design has kept them anchored to a certain point.
Now, if the right candidate is chosen, this can be a big turning point. It could also be their downfall if the wrong candidate is chosen and the program/community doesn’t embrace the change. There is a lot of uncertainty.
There will be a national search, and they are very interested in finding a stellar candidate that can take the reigns and take the program to even greater heights. Warfield is definitely being considered but I have heard that he may not want the head directors roll. While it is still extremely early some of the names I have heard being thrown around give me a lot of hope.
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Post by paddy on Dec 22, 2019 17:40:36 GMT -6
Total grammar nerd move here.,,
It is “take the reins”, not “take the reigns”.
Please carry on...
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Post by bandio on Dec 22, 2019 18:23:13 GMT -6
As some of you know, I am connected to both Carmel and Homestead. When I first heard word of this change from a few friends who are on staff at Homestead, I wish completely shocked. I pictured Brad staying with the Spartan Alliance for quite some time. After taking a few days to think about everything, this actually might be a huge opportunity for Homestead. As OldSchoolTrumpet has stated before, Homestead is a mature program and has had many of the same staff members since their rise to fame. While they’ve always been a successful program, lately it has seemed as if their design has kept them anchored to a certain point. Now, if the right candidate is chosen, this can be a big turning point. It could also be their downfall if the wrong candidate is chosen and the program/community doesn’t embrace the change. There is a lot of uncertainty. There will be a national search, and they are very interested in finding a stellar candidate that can take the reigns and take the program to even greater heights. Warfield is definitely being considered but I have heard that he may not want the head directors roll. While it is still extremely early some of the names I have heard being thrown around give me a lot of hope. I know Warfield was promoted to associate band director recently. That was odd. I have heard Warfield was iffy as well. Grammar police🙄
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Post by TeamIndiana on Dec 22, 2019 18:36:41 GMT -6
Total grammar nerd move here.,, It is “take the reins”, not “take the reigns”. Please carry on... Whoops. While we are on the subject your user name is wrong. It is spelled PATTY not paddy. 😋
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Post by paddy on Dec 22, 2019 18:53:26 GMT -6
Total grammar nerd move here.,, It is “take the reins”, not “take the reigns”. Please carry on... Whoops. While we are on the subject your user name is wrong. It is spelled PATTY not paddy. 😋 You don’t know any Irish, do you? I don’t think I have ever said it here, but I have said it on other message boards I participate in... I view this setting as friends sitting around having a beer. I’m not calling you out on grammar, I’m helping you not look goofy in place that it really matters because I care.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Dec 22, 2019 19:19:16 GMT -6
Whoops. While we are on the subject your user name is wrong. It is spelled PATTY not paddy. 😋 You don’t know any Irish, do you? I don’t think I have ever said it here, but I have said it on other message boards I participate in... I view this setting as friends sitting around having a beer. I’m not calling you out on grammar, I’m helping you not look goofy in place that it really matters because I care. Oh I know. I didn’t perceive you as coming off negative. I often use the Siri talk-to-text function when making posts here, so it often makes mistakes. Add that on top of me not proofreading.... hahaha It’s not the first mistake i’ve ever made and it certainly won’t be the last!
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Dec 22, 2019 19:27:36 GMT -6
I mentioned this to my brother in law, who went to school with Watkins at Northrop. I mentioned the possibility of Warfield taking over and he seemed surprised that such a thing was a possibility. His daughter is in show choir and Warfield is in charge of Anonymous Blue, He say that his only real impression of Warfield was that “he didn’t seem to have much control over the kids.” That’s hearsay of course, but I just question the level of experience there. Homestead is a top program. I hope they treat it as such.
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Post by bandio on Dec 22, 2019 20:03:45 GMT -6
Come on OST... you seem sharper than this. of course hearsay. Geez. You believe a HS kid who says he has no control over the kids. And relayed that to his dad. Don’t spread that that crap. What does control mean? Clarify this. I don’t doubt the kid said this. But in what context. Warfield probably got on the kid for something.
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Post by hewhowaits on Dec 22, 2019 21:53:07 GMT -6
I’m not calling you out on grammar, I’m helping you not look goofy in place that it really matters because I care. Should a self-identified grammar nerd drop a modifying participle from his explanation as to why he pointed out a usage/spelling (but certainly not grammatical) error?
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Post by paddy on Dec 22, 2019 22:01:25 GMT -6
I’m not calling you out on grammar, I’m helping you not look goofy in place that it really matters because I care. Should a self-identified grammar nerd drop a modifying participle from his explanation as to why he pointed out a usage/spelling (but certainly not grammatical) error? True, but grammar nerd is simply a more understood shorthand than usage need. That and I shouldn’t try to whip off a reply when sitting at a stoplight. Still, it is reins, not reigns. With all that said... Homestead is in an interesting place. I think that age isn’t a predictor of success. People underestimate the importance of the off field duties of a head director.
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Post by angelee on Dec 23, 2019 12:44:57 GMT -6
I’m by no means on the inside, so this is merely observation. 1. The kids adore Warfield. He walks into the room and they all light up. He listens to them. They listen to him. My son learned so much about playing his instrument from him when he worked with the low brass as a group at the end of the season. The kids know he knows what he’s doing and they absolutely respect him for that. 2. Warfield has brought our orchestra from out of the darkness. He has them play for classes during finals, he’s given them a logo and identity they never had, he’s taking them to Indy for competitions. I can’t remember if they made state, but those kids are proud to be in orchestra now. That’s new for HHS. 3. Warfield is trying to tie the middle schools to HHS more. He implemented the 8th grade night a a football game, he’s helped organize a trip to Lucas Oil. He spends time there and takes time to talk to the kids (I have an autistic trumpet player and Bryan took time to work with him). He goes to their concerts. 4. He does Anonymous Blue. He does all the pep band games. He directs one of the concert bands. He’s everywhere. 5. And last, we all saw Homestead take a turn this year. The show was different in a wonderful way. Again, not inside, but I feel (and the kids feel) Warfield had a huge hand in that.
As a teacher, I totally understand the time all band directors put in and it appears Warfield is flourishing where he is. I can see him staying put and allowing someone to take over. I can also see him being successful running the program all together. I’m likely coming off as fan-girling and that’s fine. I’m thrilled with what he’s done with my kids, my students, and what appears to be, the program as a whole.
I’m excited for the future. And I’ll own my words if I’m wrong.
And to Warfield (if you’re reading) thanks for encouraging the kids! My son is a contracted Madison Scout!
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Dec 23, 2019 12:48:09 GMT -6
I’m by no means on the inside, so this is merely observation. 1. The kids adore Warfield. He walks into the room and they all light up. He listens to them. They listen to him. My son learned so much about playing his instrument from him when he worked with the low brass as a group at the end of the season. The kids know he knows what he’s doing and they absolutely respect him for that. 2. Warfield has brought our orchestra from out of the darkness. He has them play for classes during finals, he’s given them a logo and identity they never had, he’s taking them to Indy for competitions. I can’t remember if they made state, but those kids are proud to be in orchestra now. That’s new for HHS. 3. Warfield is trying to tie the middle schools to HHS more. He implemented the 8th grade night a a football game, he’s helped organize a trip to Lucas Oil. He spends time there and takes time to talk to the kids (I have an autistic trumpet player and Bryan took time to work with him). He goes to their concerts. 4. He does Anonymous Blue. He does all the pep band games. He directs one of the concert bands. He’s everywhere. 5. And last, we all saw Homestead take a turn this year. The show was different in a wonderful way. Again, not inside, but I feel (and the kids feel) Warfield had a huge hand in that. As a teacher, I totally understand the time all band directors put in and it appears Warfield is flourishing where he is. I can see him staying put and allowing someone to take over. I can also see him being successful running the program all together. I’m likely coming off as fan-girling and that’s fine. I’m thrilled with what he’s done with my kids, my students, and what appears to be, the program as a whole. I’m excited for the future. And I’ll own my words if I’m wrong. And to Warfield (if you’re reading) thanks for encouraging the kids! My son is a contracted Madison Scout! Congrats to your son making the Scouts! It's a new era starting for them as well. Best of luck to your son, and to the corps.
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Post by angelee on Dec 23, 2019 15:05:18 GMT -6
Thank you! We are excited to add green to our sea of blue. 💙💛💚 But that’s a whole conversation for another thread!
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Post by TeamIndiana on Jan 2, 2020 12:36:59 GMT -6
Just a quick update on the Homestead head director opening. The application closes TODAY for the director position. With an official start date of 06/01/2020, my guess is that an announcement will be made late winter / early spring.
All info I have heard is second hand, but a few names that are said to have applied for the position are very promising.
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Post by angelee on Jan 2, 2020 14:39:07 GMT -6
Just a quick update on the Homestead head director opening. The application closes TODAY for the director position. My guess is that an official announcement will be made late winter / early spring. All info I have heard is second hand, but a few names that are said to have applied for the position are very promising. Well, HHS isn’t wasting any time! Looking forward to the rumor mill when we get back Monday! 💙💛
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Post by Allohak on Jan 8, 2020 16:47:02 GMT -6
Moved the Homestead director announcement and reaction into the 2020 thread. Closing this one
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