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Post by jeremiah on Sept 17, 2019 18:31:46 GMT -6
www.hornrank.com/2019/09/top-32-rankings-sept-17-2019-week-1.html1. Carmel H.S., IN 2. Flower Mound H.S., TX 3. Avon H.S., IN 4. Ronald Reagan H.S., TX 5. Vista Ridge H.S., TX 6. Hebron H.S., TX 7. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 8. Blue Springs H.S., MO 9. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 10. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. Vandegrift H.S., TX 13. Wando H.S., SC 14. The Woodlands H.S., TX 15. Keller H.S., TX 16. Marcus H.S., TX 17. Homestead H.S., IN 18. Cedar Ridge H.S., TX 19. Jenks H.S., OK 20. William Mason H.S., OH 21. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 22. Hendrickson H.S., TX 23. LD Bell H.S., TX 24. Prosper H.S., TX 25. Park Vista H.S., FL 26. Westlake H.S., TX 27. James Bowie H.S., TX 28. Center Grove H.S., IN 29. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 30. Ayala H.S., CA 31. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 32. Harrison H.S., GA First Out: Cedar Park H.S., TX
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 17, 2019 19:19:06 GMT -6
Here we go! Let the snarky comments commence.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Sept 17, 2019 19:22:44 GMT -6
Surprising for some omissions. No Round Rock and no Castle even in the next 10. Wild. Also Union not in the top 33. And I thought we might see Fishers in at least the next 10. Justify yourself, man!
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Post by paddy on Sept 17, 2019 19:30:00 GMT -6
As a small school guy, I would love to see a top 10 AA and A list.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 17, 2019 19:31:37 GMT -6
As a small school guy, I would love to see a top 10 AA and A list. Ohhh good idea! And 3A! Cuz you know...  |
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Post by thewho on Sept 17, 2019 19:48:19 GMT -6
GN's standings:
1. Carmel H.S, IN (1)
2. Flower Mound H.S., TX (2)
2. Avon H.S., IN (3)
3. Hebron H.S., TX (6)
4. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (10)
5. Leander H.S., TX (11)
6. Vandegrift H.S., TX (12)
7. The Woodlands H.S., TX (14)
8. Homestead H.S., IN (18)
9. William Mason H.S., OH (20)
10. Park Vista H.S., FL (26)
11. Center Grove H.S., IN (28)
12. Ayala H.S., CA (30)
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13. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (31)
Marian Catholic/Rockford/Union
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Post by lostchoirguy on Sept 17, 2019 19:53:18 GMT -6
GN's standings: 1. Carmel H.S, IN (1) 2. Flower Mound H.S., TX (2) 3. Avon H.S., IN (3) 4. Hebron H.S., TX (6) 5. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (10) 6. Leander H.S., TX (11) 7. Vandegrift H.S., TX (12) 8. The Woodlands H.S., TX (14) 9. Homestead H.S., IN (18) 10. William Mason H.S., OH (20) 11. Park Vista H.S., FL (26) 12. Center Grove H.S., IN (28) ------------------------------------------- 13. Ayala H.S., CA (30) 14. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (31) Marian Catholic/Rockford/Union Flower Mound isn't going this year, sadly. |
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Post by paddy on Sept 17, 2019 19:54:52 GMT -6
As a small school guy, I would love to see a top 10 AA and A list. Ohhh good idea! And 3A! Cuz you know... Top 10 AAA is probably close to covered in the top 32 plus 11. |
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Post by thewho on Sept 17, 2019 19:55:25 GMT -6
Keep in mind a lot of these rankings are essentially the same ones from the last 2018 ranking. The IM.com polls were of the same variety, where most bands will usually hold onto their position the year before. The real beef will be in Week 2 of BOA... snark away then.
The only major movement I can see is LD Bell from 28 to 23.
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Post by thewho on Sept 17, 2019 19:56:13 GMT -6
GN's standings: 1. Carmel H.S, IN (1) 2. Flower Mound H.S., TX (2) 3. Avon H.S., IN (3) 4. Hebron H.S., TX (6) 5. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (10) 6. Leander H.S., TX (11) 7. Vandegrift H.S., TX (12) 8. The Woodlands H.S., TX (14) 9. Homestead H.S., IN (18) 10. William Mason H.S., OH (20) 11. Park Vista H.S., FL (26) 12. Center Grove H.S., IN (28) ------------------------------------------- 13. Ayala H.S., CA (30) 14. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (31) Marian Catholic/Rockford/Union Flower Mound isn't going this year, sadly. Wow, I really need to check before I post. |
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Post by lowbrasssax on Sept 17, 2019 20:18:01 GMT -6
GN's standings: 1. Carmel H.S, IN (1) 2. Flower Mound H.S., TX (2) 3. Avon H.S., IN (3) 4. Hebron H.S., TX (6) 5. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX (10) 6. Leander H.S., TX (11) 7. Vandegrift H.S., TX (12) 8. The Woodlands H.S., TX (14) 9. Homestead H.S., IN (18) 10. William Mason H.S., OH (20) 11. Park Vista H.S., FL (26) 12. Center Grove H.S., IN (28) ------------------------------------------- 13. Ayala H.S., CA (30) 14. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (31) Marian Catholic/Rockford/Union Flower Mound isn't going this year, sadly. Lincoln-Way is also not attending Grand Nats |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 17, 2019 20:24:23 GMT -6
Ohhh good idea! And 3A! Cuz you know... Top 10 AAA is probably close to covered in the top 32 plus 11. Oh I know but I would still be interested to see a list. |
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Post by supersound on Sept 17, 2019 21:33:08 GMT -6
I don’t see Round Rock still not on this list by the end of the season
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Sept 17, 2019 21:52:52 GMT -6
About time we make it in the rankings  |
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Post by gregorydf on Sept 17, 2019 21:57:21 GMT -6
I don’t see Round Rock still not on this list by the end of the season Would not be surprised to see them on the list after BOA Austin! |
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 18, 2019 5:50:53 GMT -6
About time we make it in the rankings 2016 Week 3 - Next 10 |
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Post by paddy on Sept 18, 2019 9:26:34 GMT -6
Ok, here is a quck and dirty list of potential top 10 bands by class and their ranking in parentheses if they are in the current overall rankings
Here is my methodology: Take the top 10 from class at Grand Nationals, add top 5 from each class at each super regional if they finished within the top half, add any regional winner
AAAA - No need just take the rankings
AAA: No particular order
Dobyns-Bennett (21)
Franklin HS, TN
Homestead, IN (17)
Castle, IN
Kennesaw Mt.
West Salem OR
Goshen
Walled Lake Central
Fort Mill SC
Milford OH
Nation Ford SC
Leander TX (11)
Vista Ridge TX (5)
Cedar Park TX (33)
Clear Brook TX
Friendswood TX
Plainfield IN
Rosemount MN
Lincoln SD
Dripping Springs TX
Clovis NM
Blue Springs South
Lafayette LA
Kettering Fairmount OH
Bixby OK (next 10 out)
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Post by paddy on Sept 18, 2019 9:39:56 GMT -6
Ok, here is a quick and dirty list of potential top 10 bands by class and their ranking in parentheses if they are in the current overall rankings
Here is my methodology: Take the top 10 from class at Grand Nationals, add top 5 from each class at each super regional if they finished within the top half, add any regional winner
AA: No particular order,
Tarpon Springs (9)
Marian Catholic (next 10 out)
North Hardin KY
Kiski PA
Norwin
Morton IL
Greendale WI
Greenfield-Central IN
Camdenton MO
Father Ryan TN
Central Crossing OH
Jenison MI
Weiss TX
Rouse TX
Marshall MN
Fort Zumwalt North IN
Greenwood IN
Grain Valley MO
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Post by paddy on Sept 18, 2019 9:45:25 GMT -6
Ok, here is a quick and dirty list of potential top 10 bands by class and their ranking in parentheses if they are in the current overall rankings
Here is my methodology: Take the top 10 from class at Grand Nationals, add top 5 from each class at each super regional if they finished within the top half, add any regional winner. This may need to be adjusted to broaden the pool as no bands qualified from San Antonio or St. Louis.
A: No particular order
Norton OH
Lewis Cass IN
Adair County KY
Bourbon County KY
Bellbrook OH
Union City TN
Monrovia IN
Independence IA
North East PA
Russell KY
Western IN
Edgewood IN
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 18, 2019 10:41:48 GMT -6
I believe that Vista Ridge is 4A this year as far as BOA classifications go.
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Post by paddy on Sept 18, 2019 11:04:35 GMT -6
I believe that Vista Ridge is 4A this year as far as BOA classifications go. All I have to go on is last year. Texas is not terribly user friendly when it comes to finding student enrollment. |
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Post by principalagent on Sept 18, 2019 11:16:14 GMT -6
I believe that Vista Ridge is 4A this year as far as BOA classifications go. All I have to go on is last year. Texas is not terribly user friendly when it comes to finding student enrollment. You can check the UIL alignment sheets but those are only every other year. |
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Post by Allohak on Sept 18, 2019 11:31:28 GMT -6
Sorry, have to take some issue with the methodology there. Limiting to who attended a SR and/or GN means some who would definitely be in small class top X lists get left out.
Can you say for certain that Central Crossing, Greendale, Father Ryan, etc warrant inclusion while a Loveland is left out because they didn't do a BOA show in 2018 or recent semifinalist Bassett because they didn't travel to a "big" event? They'd both be in the top 10 AA groups, for me.
Or that a perennial regional class champ in Montezuma-Cortez is less deserving than, say, Union City or North East because they "only" went to the closest regional available (still over 6 hour bus ride)? A is especially tough to gauge quality versus names we all recognize.
Just a few in a number of examples
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 18, 2019 11:34:15 GMT -6
I believe that Vista Ridge is 4A this year as far as BOA classifications go. All I have to go on is last year. Texas is not terribly user friendly when it comes to finding student enrollment. Hold on there now pardner...you sayin we ain't friendly in Texas?  |
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Post by paddy on Sept 18, 2019 13:31:53 GMT -6
Sorry, have to take some issue with the methodology there. Limiting to who attended a SR and/or GN means some who would definitely be in small class top X lists get left out. Can you say for certain that Central Crossing, Greendale, Father Ryan, etc warrant inclusion while a Loveland is left out because they didn't do a BOA show in 2018 or recent semifinalist Bassett because they didn't travel to a "big" event? They'd both be in the top 10 AA groups, for me. Or that a perennial regional class champ in Montezuma-Cortez is less deserving than, say, Union City or North East because they "only" went to the closest regional available (still over 6 hour bus ride)? A is especially tough to gauge quality versus names we all recognize. Just a few in a number of examples Hence the use of the terms “quick and dirty”, the description of my methodology and the openness to suggestions. I never said that my list was above reproach, nor did I say it was complete. I would like to point out that I did include bands outside GN and SR. I didn’t have time to review past last year and really think about them. And, I simply laid out some candidates and did not attempt to rank them because I thought it would engender some reasonable conversation. So let us have a conversation. |
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Post by Allohak on Sept 18, 2019 20:36:51 GMT -6
Sorry, have to take some issue with the methodology there. Limiting to who attended a SR and/or GN means some who would definitely be in small class top X lists get left out. Can you say for certain that Central Crossing, Greendale, Father Ryan, etc warrant inclusion while a Loveland is left out because they didn't do a BOA show in 2018 or recent semifinalist Bassett because they didn't travel to a "big" event? They'd both be in the top 10 AA groups, for me. Or that a perennial regional class champ in Montezuma-Cortez is less deserving than, say, Union City or North East because they "only" went to the closest regional available (still over 6 hour bus ride)? A is especially tough to gauge quality versus names we all recognize. Just a few in a number of examples Hence the use of the terms “quick and dirty”, the description of my methodology and the openness to suggestions. I never said that my list was above reproach, nor did I say it was complete. I would like to point out that I did include bands outside GN and SR. I didn’t have time to review past last year and really think about them. And, I simply laid out some candidates and did not attempt to rank them because I thought it would engender some reasonable conversation. So let us have a conversation. That's all I was saying  It's a lot more complicated than just pulling whoever finished well at a few select events. When I have time (read: not while at work  ) I'd love to go through several years' worth of results sheets (BOA and local circuit) and see what names pop up consistently across the board. I mean, obviously Adair County is going to be at or very near the top of the A list. But just how good are they relative to others of similar school size? AA might be even harder than A because there are definite finalists like Tarpon Springs in there, but a lot of groups just on the semifinals bubble every year, some getting in while others miss out (looking at you Greendale) and it fluctuates every year. |
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Post by supersound on Sept 20, 2019 7:20:53 GMT -6
North Hardin is near the top of the AA list no matter how it fluctuates in my eyes
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Post by drummerboy on Sept 20, 2019 8:19:42 GMT -6
www.hornrank.com/2019/09/top-32-rankings-sept-17-2019-week-1.html1. Carmel H.S., IN 2. Flower Mound H.S., TX 3. Avon H.S., IN 4. Ronald Reagan H.S., TX 5. Vista Ridge H.S., TX 6. Hebron H.S., TX 7. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 8. Blue Springs H.S., MO 9. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 10. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. Vandegrift H.S., TX 13. Wando H.S., SC 14. The Woodlands H.S., TX 15. Keller H.S., TX 16. Marcus H.S., TX 17. Homestead H.S., IN 18. Cedar Ridge H.S., TX 19. Jenks H.S., OK 20. William Mason H.S., OH 21. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 22. Hendrickson H.S., TX 23. LD Bell H.S., TX 24. Prosper H.S., TX 25. Park Vista H.S., FL 26. Westlake H.S., TX 27. James Bowie H.S., TX 28. Center Grove H.S., IN 29. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 30. Ayala H.S., CA 31. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 32. Harrison H.S., GA First Out: Cedar Park H.S., TX Can you put the class next to the name? (i.e. AA or AAAA etc.) I think that would help a LOT! |
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Post by lostchoirguy on Sept 20, 2019 8:35:13 GMT -6
Until the band competes some of them are still questionable for which classification they are. BOA doesnt release that info as far as I know.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 20, 2019 10:15:40 GMT -6
I don’t see Round Rock still not on this list by the end of the season Nor Cedar Park!!!! In fact, I bet they move back up into the top 30 within the next ten days. |
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