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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2024 8:33:45 GMT -6
It's that time of year again! Happy 2024 Grand Nationals Week! This thread will be for discussion leading up to the first band stepping off in prelims at 7:00 on Thursday! Discussion about which bands you're excited to see, final predictions, etc., are all welcome topics. For those attending in-person for the first time and have any questions about the event, places to go/eat in Indianapolis, etc., there are plenty of great people on this forum to ask, some of whom that will also be working the event. Allohak , hewhowaits , thewho , and 70sguardchick are great sources for answers, as are some of our other forum folk that have attended Grand Nationals numerous times. This thread will be available throughout the duration of this week but there will be other discussion threads for each round of Grand Nationals. The Prelims thread will go live early Thursday morning before the first band steps off, the Semifinals thread will go live following the Prelims Awards Ceremony, and the Finals thread will go live following the Semifinals Awards Ceremony. Once again, happy Grand Nationals week! |
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2024 8:35:20 GMT -6
Prelims Schedule as of 09/27
THURSDAY:
Panel 1
7:00 - Valley H.S., KY
7:15 - Clarksville H.S., TN
7:30 - Monticello H.S., IL
7:45 - Herscher H.S., IL
8:00 - Colerain H.S., OH
8:15 - South Dearborn H.S., IN
8:30 - Cambridge H.S., GA
8:45 - Batesville H.S., IN
9:00 - Owen County H.S., KY
9:15 - Norwood H.S., OH
Panel 2
9:30 - Simon Kenton H.S., KY
9:45 - Murray H.S., KY
10:00 - Boyle County H.S., KY
10:15 - Ben Davis H.S., IN
10:30 - Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
10:45 - Hardin Valley Academy, TN
11:00 - Garrard County H.S., KY
11:15 - Avon H.S., OH
11:30 - Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
11:45 - IPS Showcase
Panel 1
12:15 - O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
12:30 - Springboro H.S., OH
12:45 - South Oldham H.S., KY
1:00 - Kalida H.S., OH
1:15 - West Carrollton H.S., OH
1:30 - Tippecanoe H.S., OH
1:45 - Marion Local H.S., OH
2:00 - Greenfield Central H.S., IN
2:15 - Anderson County H.S., KY
2:30 - Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
Panel 2
2:45 - Noblesville H.S., IN
3:00 - Lawrence Township, IN
3:15 - South Point H.S., OH
3:30 - Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI
3:45 - Kickapoo H.S., MO
4:00 - DeWitt H.S., MI
4:15 - Walled Lake H.S., MI
4:30 - Broken Arrow H.S., OK
4:45 - East Clinton H.S., OH
5:00 - Friendswood H.S., TX
5:15 - Campbell County H.S., KY
5:30 - Hamilton H.S., OH
Panel 1
5:45 - Miamisburg H.S., OH
6:00 - William Mason H.S., OH
6:15 - Marian Catholic H.S., IL
6:30 - Floyd Central H.S., IN
6:45 - Monrovia H.S., IN
7:00 - Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL
7:15 - John Hardin H.S., KY
7:30 - Westlake H.S., UT
7:45 - Center Grove H.S., IN
8:00 - Avon H.S., IN
8:15 - BREAK
Panel 2
8:30 - Centerville H.S., OH
8:45 - American Fork H.S., UT
9:00 - Brownsburg H.S., IN
9:15 - Columbus H.S., IN
9:30 - Carmel H.S., IN
9:45 - Fishers H.S., IN
10:00 - Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
10:15 - Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
10:30 - Castle H.S., IN
10:45 - Norwin H.S., PA
FRIDAY:
Panel 1
7:00 - Nicholas County H.S., KY
7:15 - Bob Jones H.S., AL
7:30 - Green Level H.S., NC
7:45 - Franklin H.S., TN
8:00 - Catawba Ridge H.S., SC
8:15 - Prosper H.S., TX
8:30 - Summit H.S., TN
8:45 - Cass H.S., GA
9:00 - Camdenton H.S, MO
9:15 - Cedar Park H.S., TX
9:30 - Deer Creek H.S., OK
9:45 - Jenks H.S., OK
10:00 - Union H.S., OK
10:15 - BREAK
Panel 2
10:30 - Nixa H.S., MO
10:45 - Newberry H.S., FL
11:00 - Leander H.S., TX
11:15 - Rosemount H.S., MN
11:30 - DeSoto Central H.S., MS
11:45 - Argyle H.S., TX
12:00 - Panther Creek H.S., NC
12:15 - Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
12:30 - Cheney H.S., WA
12:45 - Mustang H.S., OK
1:00 - Bridgeland H.S., TX
1:15 - Stoneman Douglas H.S., FL
1:30 - South Jones H.S., MS
1:45 - BREAK
Panel 1
2:00 - Hollister H.S., MO
2:15 - Bartlett H.S., TN
2:30 - Meade County H.S., KY
2:45 - Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
3:00 - Lakota East H.S., OH
3:15 - Rockford H.S., MI
3:30 - Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
3:45 - Huron Valley Marching Band, MI
4:00 - Greendale H.S., WI
4:15 - Pulaski County H.S., KY
4:30 - Clover H.S., SC
4:45 - Bourbon County H.S., KY
5:00 - Goshen H.S., IN
5:15 - BREAK
Panel 2
5:30 - Norton H.S., OH
5:45 - Dixie Heights H.S., KY
6:00 - Warren Local H.S., OH
6:15 - Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH
6:30 - Homestead H.S., IN
6:45 - Milford H.S., OH
7:00 - Lebanon H.S., OH
7:15 - Finneytown H.S., OH
7:30 - Bellbrook H.S., OH
7:45 - Cary H.S., NC
8:00 - Central Crossing H.S., OH
8:15 - Carlisle H.S., OH
8:30 - Jenison H.S., MI
8:45 - EXH. Missouri State Univ. Pride Marching Band
CLASS A:
Archbishop Alter H.S., OH
Batesville H.S., IN
Bourbon County H.S., KY
Carlisle H.S., OH
Christian Academy of Louisville, KY
Clinton-Massie H.S., OH
East Clinton H.S., OH
Finneytown H.S., OH
Herscher H.S., IL
Hollister H.S., MO
Kalida H.S., OH
Marian Catholic H.S., IL
Marion Local H.S., OH
Monrovia H.S., IN
Monticello H.S., IL
Murray H.S., KY
Newberry H.S., FL
Nicholas County H.S., KY
Norton H.S., OH
Norwood H.S., OH
Owen County H.S., KY
Shawe Memorial H.S., IN
South Dearborn H.S., IN
South Point H.S., OH
Valley H.S., KY
Warren Local H.S., OH
CLASS AA:
Anderson County H.S., KY
Argyle H.S., TX
Avon H.S., OH
Bellbrook H.S., OH
Boyle County H.S., KY
Cambridge H.S., GA
Camdenton H.S., MO
Campbell County H.S., KY
Cass H.S., GA
Catawba Ridge H.S., SC
Central Crossing H.S., OH
Cheney H.S., WA
Clarksville H.S., TN
DeWitt H.S., MI
Dixie Heights H.S., KY
Garrard County H.S., KY
Goshen H.S., IN
Greendale H.S., WI
Greenfield-Central H.S., IN
Jenison H.S., MI
John Hardin H.S., KY
Meade County H.S., KY
Miamisburg H.S., OH
Norwin H.S., PA
Pulaski County H.S., KY
Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI
South Jones H.S., MS
South Oldham H.S., KY
Summit H.S., TN
Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
Tippecanoe H.S., OH
Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH
West Carrollton H.S., OH
Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH
CLASS AAA:
Bob Jones H.S., AL
Cary H.S., NC
Castle H.S., IN
Cedar Park H.S., TX
Colerain H.S., OH
Deer Creek H.S., OK
DeSoto Central H.S., MS
Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
Floyd Central H.S., IN
Franklin H.S., TN
Friendswood H.S., TX
Green Level H.S., NC
Hamilton H.S., OH
Hardin Valley Academy, TN
Homestead H.S., IN
Kickapoo H.S., MO
Leander H.S., TX
Lebanon H.S., OH
Milford H.S., OH
Nixa H.S., MO
Rockford H.S., MI
Rosemount H.S., MN
Simon Kenton H.S., KY
Springboro H.S., OH
Walled Lake Schools, MI
CLASS AAAA:
American Fork H.S., UT
Avon H.S., IN
Bartlett H.S., TN
Ben Davis H.S., IN
Bridgeland H.S., TX
Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Brownsburg H.S., IN
Carmel H.S., IN
Center Grove H.S., IN
Centerville H.S., OH
Clover H.S., SC
Columbus Schools, IN
Fishers H.S., IN
Huron Valley Schools, MI
Jenks H.S., OK
Lakota East H.S., OH
Lawrence Township, IN
Lincoln-Way H.S., IL
Mustang H.S., OK
Noblesville H.S., IN
O’Fallon Township H.S., IL
Panther Creek H.S., NC
Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI
Prosper H.S., TX
Stoneman Douglas H.S., FL
Union H.S., OK
Westlake H.S., UT
William Mason H.S., OH
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Post by Allohak on Nov 10, 2024 9:59:26 GMT -6
Let's gooooo
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Post by 70sguardchick on Nov 10, 2024 11:13:22 GMT -6
Welcome to Indy, everyone! Thanks, bigtrombone for the shout-out – I work just a couple of blocks for Lucas Oil, so am happy to give some recs and directions! Construction around LOS isn’t too terrible, but they are building a new hotel just across from the Convention Center. If you are coming south on Capitol around Georgia St be sure to stay to the right, because the left lane ends suddenly. Makes my commute home in the evenings a real treat. There may be some lane closures headed north on Illinois St as well. PARKING has some new twists. The parking area on the Southeast side of LOS will be available for $20 – This has been used for ADA parking in the past, but that has been moved to just NW of the bus parking. Bring a credit card. All of LOS is cashless, including the adjacent parking. What used to be called Gate Ten Parking changed hands (long and juicy story – ya gotta pay your rent, folks…). It is now called Horseshoe Parking and is owned by iPark. You can reserve a spot in advance online by the day at www.ipco.services/payments/events . It’s $30 a day for cars, or $150 if you have an RV and want to park it overnight. Circle Center Mall is a shell of its former self. Don’t even plan on it for quick food, IMO. Taco Bell and Chick fil A both moved to Washington Street. You can get a relatively cheap, tasty and filling breakfast at Lincoln Square on Capitol Across from the Statehouse. If you want to head over to check out the Fever/Pacers gift shop, there’s a place called Sauce on the Side across the street that makes all kinds of calzones. And there’s always Shapiro’s. They were being super strict about the clear bag policy at the ISSMA finals yesterday, even though the official policy says you can bring in a small clutch purse. What else do you want to know?? |
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Post by gavintheeuph on Nov 10, 2024 11:26:03 GMT -6
This will be the second time my band goes to Grand Nationals. Any recommendations on what band (Preferably not Top 20 Bands) to watch on the bus ride there? It would be 11:00 CST on the first day when we leave to LOS.
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Post by OHbandfan on Nov 10, 2024 11:36:10 GMT -6
This will be the second time my band goes to Grand Nationals. Any recommendations on what band (Preferably not Top 20 Bands) to watch on the bus ride there? It would be 11:00 CST on the first day when we leave to LOS. Depends on which day you’re traveling. Thursday look out for Murray, Herscher, Walled Lake, Alter. Friday: Cass, Deer Creek, DeSoto, Cheney, Hollister, Bartlett just to name a few. But it’s all fun to watch Edit: I see you’re traveling Thursday afternoon. Alter on then |
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A Bartlett kid who loves almost all bands and fascinated in drill
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Post by gavintheeuph on Nov 10, 2024 11:39:59 GMT -6
This will be the second time my band goes to Grand Nationals. Any recommendations on what band (Preferably not Top 20 Bands) to watch on the bus ride there? It would be 11:00 CST on the first day when we leave to LOS. Depends on which day you’re traveling. Thursday look out for Murray, Herscher, Walled Lake, Alter. Friday: Cass, Deer Creek, DeSoto, Cheney, Hollister, Bartlett just to name a few. But it’s all fun to watch Edit: I see you’re traveling Thursday afternoon. Alter on then Thx for the recommendations!! |
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Post by chewiesmahdog on Nov 10, 2024 12:05:23 GMT -6
Curious if anyone has any thoughts/opinions on Missouri State performing in exhibition? Are they well known to this circle?
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Post by es203 on Nov 10, 2024 12:40:04 GMT -6
Curious if anyone has any thoughts/opinions on Missouri State performing in exhibition? Are they well known to this circle? Another corps style college band person here: yes. At least to us lol. Watched a video of their show and that guard is MASSIVE |
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Post by Allohak on Nov 10, 2024 12:45:18 GMT -6
Curious if anyone has any thoughts/opinions on Missouri State performing in exhibition? Are they well known to this circle? oh yes they're fantastic! They're sure to give the crowd something the kids will feel more connection to style-wise than the usual Big37 exhibition groups. That said, Ohio St and Michigan are better than the average Big86 band too |
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Post by crowncrawler on Nov 10, 2024 14:47:10 GMT -6
Semifinalist predictions.
Panel 1 (Top 11)
Avon, IN
William Mason, OH
Cedar Park, TX
Prosper, TX
O'Fallon Township, IL
Jenks, OK
Union, OK
Lakota East, OH
Catawba Ridge, SC
Westlake, UT
Bartlett, TN
Panel 2 (Top 11)
Carmel, IN
Broken Arrow, OK
Tarpon Springs, FL
Castle, IN
Brownsburg, IN
Bridgeland, TX
American Fork, UT
Leander, TX
Dobyns-Bennett, TN
Fishers, IN
Homestead, IN
Next 8
Jenison, MI
Rosemount, MN
Stoneman Douglas, FL
Mustang, OK
Noblesville, IN
Argyle, TX
Friendswood, TX
Norwin, PA
Class Reps
Marian Catholic, IL (A-P1)
Bourbon County, KY (A-P1)
Murray, KY (A-P2)
Archbishop Alter, OH (A-P2)
Goshen, IN (AA-P1)
Rockford, MI (AAA-P1)
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Post by crowncrawler on Nov 10, 2024 15:05:56 GMT -6
Finals/class champion predictions.
1. Avon H.S., IN
2. Carmel H.S., IN
3. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
4. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
5. William Mason H.S., OH
6. Cedar Park H.S., TX
7. Castle H.S., IN
8. Bridgeland H.S., TX
9. Prosper H.S., TX
10. Brownsburg H.S., IN
11. Leander H.S., TX
12. American Fork H.S., UT
Music: Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Visual: Avon H.S., IN
GE: Avon H.S., IN
A: Murray H.S., KY
AA: Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
AAA: Cedar Park H.S., TX
AAAA: Avon H.S., IN
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Post by came on Nov 10, 2024 15:06:44 GMT -6
Semifinalist predictions. Panel 1 (Top 11)Avon, IN William Mason, OH Cedar Park, TX Prosper, TX O'Fallon Township, IL Jenks, OK Union, OK Lakota East, OH Catawba Ridge, SC Westlake, UT Bartlett, TN Panel 2 (Top 11)Carmel, IN Broken Arrow, OK Tarpon Springs, FL Castle, IN Brownsburg, IN Bridgeland, TX American Fork, UT Leander, TX Dobyns-Bennett, TN Fishers, IN Homestead, IN Next 8
Jenison, MI Rosemount, MN Stoneman Douglas, FL Mustang, OK Noblesville, IN Argyle, TX Friendswood, TX Walled Lake, MI Class Reps
Marian Catholic, IL (A-P1)Bourbon County, KY (A-P1)Murray, KY (A-P2)Archbishop Alter, OH (A-P2)Goshen, IN (AA-P1)Rockford, MI (AAA-P1)Norwin? |
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Post by crowncrawler on Nov 10, 2024 15:10:09 GMT -6
Semifinalist predictions. Panel 1 (Top 11)Avon, IN William Mason, OH Cedar Park, TX Prosper, TX O'Fallon Township, IL Jenks, OK Union, OK Lakota East, OH Catawba Ridge, SC Westlake, UT Bartlett, TN Panel 2 (Top 11)Carmel, IN Broken Arrow, OK Tarpon Springs, FL Castle, IN Brownsburg, IN Bridgeland, TX American Fork, UT Leander, TX Dobyns-Bennett, TN Fishers, IN Homestead, IN Next 8
Jenison, MI Rosemount, MN Stoneman Douglas, FL Mustang, OK Noblesville, IN Argyle, TX Friendswood, TX Walled Lake, MI Class Reps
Marian Catholic, IL (A-P1)Bourbon County, KY (A-P1)Murray, KY (A-P2)Archbishop Alter, OH (A-P2)Goshen, IN (AA-P1)Rockford, MI (AAA-P1)Norwin? I have them first out. It's gonna be tight. Edit: I decided to swap them |
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 10, 2024 15:32:09 GMT -6
1. Avon
2. Carmel
3. Tarpon Springs
4. William Mason
5. Broken Arrow
6. Dobyns-Bennett
7. Cedar Park
8. Bridgeland
9. Prosper
10. American Fork
11. Castle
12. Leander
First out: Brownsburg
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Nov 10, 2024 15:39:45 GMT -6
CLASS AAAA: Homestead H.S., IN Not to be picky, but Homestead was AAA in Toledo and Indy. I'd have to imagine they'll still be AAA next weekend. |
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Post by Saturno on Nov 10, 2024 16:04:31 GMT -6
My tentative placements:
1. Avon H.S., IN
2. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL
3. Carmel H.S., IN
4. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
5. William Mason H.S., OH
6. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN
7. Cedar Park H.S., TX
8. Castle H.S., IN
9. Brownsburg H.S., IN
10. Prosper H.S., TX
11. Homestead H.S., IN
12. American Fork H.S., UT
Visual: Avon
Music: Avon
GE: Tarpon Springs
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 10, 2024 16:09:10 GMT -6
CLASS AAAA: Homestead H.S., IN Not to be picky, but Homestead was AAA in Toledo and Indy. I'd have to imagine they'll still be AAA next weekend. One was bound to slip through the cracks — and I can’t change it myself this time! 🤣 |
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Post by cybrunette on Nov 10, 2024 16:30:01 GMT -6
i'm not backing down
1. tarpon
2. avon
3. carmel
music - carmel
visual - tarpon
effects general - tarpon
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Post by Saturno on Nov 10, 2024 16:35:31 GMT -6
i'm not backing down 1. tarpon 2. avon 3. carmel music - carmel visual - tarpon effects general - tarpon Fierce. I like it. 10000% of me wants either Tarpon Springs or William Mason to take Kevin home. |
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Post by chewiesmahdog on Nov 10, 2024 16:43:44 GMT -6
Curious if anyone has any thoughts/opinions on Missouri State performing in exhibition? Are they well known to this circle? Another corps style college band person here: yes. At least to us lol. Watched a video of their show and that guard is MASSIVE Glad it hear it as a member of the Missouri State band. Hadn’t seen hardly any discussion about our being there so was curious. And yes, our guard is massive. I think we are at either 95 or 99 in it. Not sure on the exact number but we’re just a couple short of having a 100 member guard. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Nov 10, 2024 16:50:44 GMT -6
Another corps style college band person here: yes. At least to us lol. Watched a video of their show and that guard is MASSIVE Glad it hear it as a member of the Missouri State band. Hadn’t seen hardly any discussion about our being there so was curious. And yes, our guard is massive. I think we are at either 95 or 99 in it. Not sure on the exact number but we’re just a couple short of having a 100 member guard. Me running to highlight Missouri State on my schedule… |
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Post by ziggie204 on Nov 10, 2024 17:08:24 GMT -6
I saw Campbell County this weekend, loved their show, and will be rooting for them to get to semis.
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 10, 2024 17:56:31 GMT -6
i'm not backing down 1. tarpon 2. avon 3. carmel music - carmel visual - tarpon effects general - tarpon If they're somehow able to pull this off after missing as much time as they have this season, that would be a truly legendary accomplishment. |
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Post by bandenjoyer456 on Nov 10, 2024 18:07:32 GMT -6
i'm not backing down 1. tarpon 2. avon 3. carmel music - carmel visual - tarpon effects general - tarpon If they're somehow able to pull this off after missing as much time as they have this season, that would be a truly legendary accomplishment. Tarpon probably has the most advanced visual book out all the bands attending grand nats. I’m not sure how that will be judged compared to squeaky clean Indiana band tho. It always seems that execution > difficulty is the norm in BOA judging. |
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Post by cybrunette on Nov 10, 2024 18:11:00 GMT -6
i'm not backing down 1. tarpon 2. avon 3. carmel music - carmel visual - tarpon effects general - tarpon If they're somehow able to pull this off after missing as much time as they have this season, that would be a truly legendary accomplishment. https://www.instagram.com/p/DCJ_WR8pNDT i believe |
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Post by KentGrayland on Nov 10, 2024 18:23:43 GMT -6
I'm really looking forward to seeing the Carolina groups. Hoping they do very well here.
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Post by das88 on Nov 10, 2024 18:52:40 GMT -6
i'm not backing down 1. tarpon 2. avon 3. carmel music - carmel visual - tarpon effects general - tarpon Broken Arrow is going to take music, IMO. |
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 10, 2024 20:10:04 GMT -6
Watch for a schedule change for Thursday. The rumored 114th group appears ready to be added at 7:00 a.m. with everyone else moving 15 minutes later.
I was told MFA made the conscious decision to only update schedules when they publish the "final" schedule during show week. As we have seen, it is still possible to see another update to "final V2."
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Post by 1970 on Nov 10, 2024 20:26:23 GMT -6
Tarpon is either one or two this year.
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