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Post by lqb on Sept 29, 2019 4:50:01 GMT -6
While I am not sure Blue Springs could beat Broken Arrow this year. I believe they are still a high contender for 2nd place. There is still 3 weeks away from this Super Regional and I believe they only had half their shown on the field and it was very under developed. I am interested to see Camdenton's growth over the next few seasons as their new director is obviously pushing them in the right direction. I am interested to see how they place here. The Baurs are still directing at Camdenton. Added a super talented associate director.
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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 29, 2019 16:57:50 GMT -6
Still-Too-Early Finals Predictions
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 4. Rosemount H.S., MN 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Coppell H.S., TX 8. Haltom H.S., TX 9. Camdenton H.S., MO 10. Union H.S., OK 11. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Franklin H.S., TN 14. Lincoln H.S., SD
Spots 13-14 could also easily go to Stephen F. Austin, Nixa, Bellevue West, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Bentonville, Grain Valley, or Air Academy. Hopefully once the prelims schedule comes out, we'll have a better idea how it shakes out when we see's how the bands are split into their judging panels.
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 29, 2019 17:46:38 GMT -6
Finalist Predictions:
1. Broken Arrow, OK 2. Blue Springs, MO 3. LD Bell, TX 4. Rosemount, MN 5. Bixby, OK 6. Jenks, OK 7. Coppell, TX 8. Union, OK 9. Lake Travis, TX 10. Haltom, TX 11. O'Fallon Township, IL 12. Camdenton, MO 13. Franklin, TN 14. Bentonville, AR
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 29, 2019 17:47:00 GMT -6
Still-Too-Early Finals Predictions 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 4. Rosemount H.S., MN 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Coppell H.S., TX 8. Haltom H.S., TX 9. Camdenton H.S., MO 10. Union H.S., OK 11. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Franklin H.S., TN 14. Lincoln H.S., SD Spots 13-14 could also easily go to Stephen F. Austin, Nixa, Bellevue West, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Bentonville, Grain Valley, or Air Academy. Hopefully once the prelims schedule comes out, we'll have a better idea how it shakes out when we see's how the bands are split into their judging panels. I don’t have a ton of faith in LD Bell to place much higher than 5th at the moment. Which 5th wouldn’t be bad just probably not what they’re used to
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Post by macwinlin on Sept 29, 2019 18:08:58 GMT -6
I honestly have no idea where to put anyone except BA at the moment. I'll feel better about making a list once the next two weekends have passed.
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Sept 29, 2019 18:10:59 GMT -6
Predictions:
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 4. Rosemount H.S., MN 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Coppell H.S., TX 8. Camdenton H.S., MO 9. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 10. Haltom H.S., TX 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Franklin H.S., TN 13. Lake Travis H.S., TX 14. Grain Valley H.S., MO
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Post by bassoooon on Oct 1, 2019 16:45:24 GMT -6
I'd say:
1. Broken Arrow, OK 2. Blue Springs, MO 3. LD Bell, TX 4. Jenks, OK 5. Rosemount, MN 6. Bixby (was forgotten) 7. O'Fallon Township, IL (O'Fallon and every lower band was up one) 8. Coppell, TX 9. Union, OK 10. Haltom, TX 11. Camdenton, MO 12. Lake Travis, TX 13. Franklin, TN 14. Lincoln, SD (14th was Bentonville) I'm still pretty new to the world of band, especially in the South, so these are very changeable. I might switch around the bottom 3, and O'Fallon Township could move higher.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 3, 2019 16:40:17 GMT -6
So, uh... we're about two weeks away and we still don't know the prelims schedule for this competition or Waco. Any idea when those might get posted by MFA?
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 4, 2019 6:18:04 GMT -6
So, uh... we're about two weeks away and we still don't know the prelims schedule for this competition or Waco. Any idea when those might get posted by MFA? Maybe the day after Grand Nationals?
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 4, 2019 7:43:53 GMT -6
So, uh... we're about two weeks away and we still don't know the prelims schedule for this competition or Waco. Any idea when those might get posted by MFA? And if YOU don't have it, NOBODY has it!!
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Post by principalagent on Oct 5, 2019 23:46:46 GMT -6
So Coppell, LD Bell, Lake Travis, and SFA will all pretty much be in finals, with Haltom probably still more likely in than out.
We still need to see DFW prelims results, but it’s probably just those five from Texas here.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 6, 2019 7:58:29 GMT -6
Updated Finals Predictions after 10/5/2019
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Camdenton H.S., MO 8. Coppell H.S., TX 9. Haltom H.S., TX 10. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14. Franklin H.S., TN
Franklin could also be swapped out with Lincoln, Nixa, Air Academy, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Grain Valley, or Carroll Senior. Recent results for Bentonville and Bellevue West don't have me sold on them right now, while Carroll Senior I believe has a better chance of making finals after only being a tenth out of finals at Bedford.
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Post by srv1084 on Oct 6, 2019 13:19:45 GMT -6
Updated Finals Predictions after 10/5/2019 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Camdenton H.S., MO 8. Coppell H.S., TX 9. Haltom H.S., TX 10. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14. Franklin H.S., TN Franklin could also be swapped out with Lincoln, Nixa, Air Academy, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Grain Valley, or Carroll Senior. Recent results for Bentonville and Bellevue West don't have me sold on them right now, while Carroll Senior I believe has a better chance of making finals after only being a tenth out of finals at Bedford. Whoa. I must be living under a rock, because I didn't realize this regional was so incredibly stacked this year. Awesome to see groups like Bixby and Camdenton charging into this regional as strong as they are. Camdenton has been a pleasant surprise this year. Their show is terrific. I get a pretty distinct Cartwright vibe out of them. Anybody know who is working with them/designing?
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 6, 2019 14:43:29 GMT -6
Updated Finals Predictions after 10/5/2019 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Camdenton H.S., MO 8. Coppell H.S., TX 9. Haltom H.S., TX 10. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14. Franklin H.S., TN Franklin could also be swapped out with Lincoln, Nixa, Air Academy, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Grain Valley, or Carroll Senior. Recent results for Bentonville and Bellevue West don't have me sold on them right now, while Carroll Senior I believe has a better chance of making finals after only being a tenth out of finals at Bedford. I was just about to comment on how you have Lake Travis so low after their incredible showings the past 2 weekends, and then I kept reading up the list and fully understand your decision. I do think they have a really good shot at breaking the top 10, but 12th is just as likely with this lineup.
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 6, 2019 14:47:12 GMT -6
My predictions:
1) Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2) L.D. Bell H.S., TX 3) Blue Springs H.S., MO 4) Rosemount H.S., MN 5) Bixby H.S., OK 6) Coppell H.S., TX 7) Jenks H.S., OK 8) Union H.S., OK 9) Camdenton H.S., MO (was 12) 10) Lake Travis H.S., TX 11) O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 12) Haltom H.S., TX 13) Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14) Carroll Senior H.S., TX
Edit: Didn't realize how close Camdenton got to Jenks at BAI, predictions adjusted accordingly
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Post by macwinlin on Oct 6, 2019 16:33:16 GMT -6
Updated Finals Predictions after 10/5/2019 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Camdenton H.S., MO 8. Coppell H.S., TX 9. Haltom H.S., TX 10. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14. Franklin H.S., TN Franklin could also be swapped out with Lincoln, Nixa, Air Academy, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Grain Valley, or Carroll Senior. Recent results for Bentonville and Bellevue West don't have me sold on them right now, while Carroll Senior I believe has a better chance of making finals after only being a tenth out of finals at Bedford. Whoa. I must be living under a rock, because I didn't realize this regional was so incredibly stacked this year. Awesome to see groups like Bixby and Camdenton charging into this regional as strong as they are. Camdenton has been a pleasant surprise this year. Their show is terrific. I get a pretty distinct Cartwright vibe out of them. Anybody know who is working with them/designing? Not sure why I can't insert new post. I forget his name, but he's been doing guard there, Cartwright-style, for years. If I remember correctly, they've worked together in the past. Cartwright might even be designing there this year.
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 6, 2019 16:42:53 GMT -6
Updated Finals Predictions after 10/5/2019 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 5. Bixby H.S., OK 6. Jenks H.S., OK 7. Camdenton H.S., MO 8. Coppell H.S., TX 9. Haltom H.S., TX 10. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 11. Union H.S., OK 12. Lake Travis H.S., TX 13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 14. Franklin H.S., TN Franklin could also be swapped out with Lincoln, Nixa, Air Academy, Trinity, Fort Zumwalt North, Grain Valley, or Carroll Senior. Recent results for Bentonville and Bellevue West don't have me sold on them right now, while Carroll Senior I believe has a better chance of making finals after only being a tenth out of finals at Bedford. Whoa. I must be living under a rock, because I didn't realize this regional was so incredibly stacked this year. Awesome to see groups like Bixby and Camdenton charging into this regional as strong as they are. Camdenton has been a pleasant surprise this year. Their show is terrific. I get a pretty distinct Cartwright vibe out of them. Anybody know who is working with them/designing? Colton Hines has jumped into the arranging circle and arranged their winds, front ensemble and battery while also still doing their sound design. I’m not sure if he works with them in any further capacity beyond that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 17:25:36 GMT -6
I'm fairly new to BOA, but figured I'd take a stab at my own way too early early predictions:
Finals:
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
2. L.D. Bell H.S., TX
3. Blue Springs H.S., MO
4. Rosemount H.S., MN
5. Camdenton H.S., MO
6. Coppell H.S., TX
7. Jenks H.S., OK
8. Bixby H.S., OK
9. Haltom H.S., TX
10. Lake Travis H.S., TX
11. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
12. Union H.S., OK
13. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX
14. Franklin H.S., TN
First Out - Lincoln H.S., SD
I feel the 13/14 spots could easily be replaced with other bubble bands, I'm just not too well known with many of them yet.
Even though I'm new to BOA still (I sorta followed it in 2017 and really followed it last year), I've definitely noticed Camdenton's huge rise this year and I'm stoked to see how they perform here. Bixby is another band I'm interested in seeing how they do, and of course the TX bands are going to spice up finals.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 7, 2019 8:38:34 GMT -6
My predictions as of now. This is a great Super Regional!
1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. Jenks H.S., OK 5. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 6. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 7. Union H.S., OK 8. Bixby H.S., OK 9. Coppell H.S., TX 10. Camdenton H.S., MO 11. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 12. Franklin H.S., TN 13. Haltom H.S., TX 14. Bentonville H.S., AR
First Out: Lake Travis H.S., TX
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Post by Samuel Culper on Oct 7, 2019 9:44:40 GMT -6
My predictions as of now. This is a great Super Regional! 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. Jenks H.S., OK 5. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 6. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 7. Union H.S., OK 8. Bixby H.S., OK 9. Coppell H.S., TX 10. Camdenton H.S., MO 11. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 12. Franklin H.S., TN 13. Haltom H.S., TX 14. Bentonville H.S., AR First Out: Lake Travis H.S., TX I think Lake Travis will be closer to the Top Half than missing Finals.
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 7, 2019 14:06:30 GMT -6
My predictions as of now. This is a great Super Regional! 1. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 2. Blue Springs H.S., MO 3. Rosemount H.S., MN 4. Jenks H.S., OK 5. L.D. Bell H.S., TX 6. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 7. Union H.S., OK 8. Bixby H.S., OK 9. Coppell H.S., TX 10. Camdenton H.S., MO 11. Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 12. Franklin H.S., TN 13. Haltom H.S., TX 14. Bentonville H.S., AR First Out: Lake Travis H.S., TX I think Lake Travis will be closer to the Top Half than missing Finals. 100% agree, the competition at Austin tends to be a lot thicker and considering they just got 7th ahead of Bowie and Katy medalist Westwood, their set up for a great performance here. Remember how in 2017 Westwood missed finals at Austin but then tied for 5th at St. Louis? Even accounting for the far more competitive field this year, that should easily make Lake Travis a lock over groups like Franklin and Bentonville who appear to have been scoring lower than usual this season.
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 7, 2019 14:19:11 GMT -6
Friday Prelims as of 10/7/19:
(Judge Panel 2)
10:30 Francis Howell Central H.S., MO 10:45 Parkway Central H.S., MO 11:00 McCracken County H.S., KY 11:15 Collinsville H.S., IL 11:30 Bentonville H.S., AR 11:45 Fort Zumwalt West H.S., MO 12:00 Bellevue West H.S., NE 12:15 Alton H.S., IL
12:30 BREAK
(Judge Panel 1)
1:00 Oakville H.S., MO 1:15 David H. Hickman H.S., MO 1:30 Liberty H.S., CO 1:45 East Peoria Community H.S., IL 2:00 Washington H.S., MO 2:15 Triad H.S., IL 2:30 Hernando H.S., MS 2:45 Providence Catholic H.S., IL 3:00 Granite City H.S., IL 3:15 Highland H.S., IL 3:30 Monticello H.S., IL 3:45 Normal H.S., IL 4:00 Wentzville Holt H.S., MO
4:15 BREAK
(Judge Panel 2)
4:30 Francis Howell H.S., MO 4:45 Marquette H.S., MO 5:00 Francis Howell North H.S., MO 5:15 Timberland H.S., MO 5:30 Belleville East H.S., IL 5:45 O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 6:00 Rockwood Summit H.S., MO 6:15 Northwest H.S., MO 6:30 Fort Zumwalt North H.S., MO
6:45 BREAK
(Judge Panel 1)
7:30 Lafayette H.S., MO 7:45 Mascoutah H.S., IL 8:00 Lindbergh H.S., MO 8:15 Grain Valley H.S., MO 8:30 Air Academy H.S., CO 8:45 Kickapoo H.S., MO 9:00 Union H.S., OK 9:15 Bellevue East H.S., NE 9:30 Blue Springs H.S., MO
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 7, 2019 14:19:30 GMT -6
Saturday Prelims Schedule as of 9/19/2019
(Judge Panel 2)
7:15 Dixie Heights H.S., KY 7:30 Nixa H.S., MO 7:45 Camdenton H.S., MO 8:00 Washington H.S., OK 8:15 Bartlesville H.S., OK 8:30 Coppell H.S., TX 8:45 Hollister H.S., MO 9:00 Neosho H.S., MO 9:15 Bixby H.S., OK
9:30 BREAK
(Judge Panel 1)
9:45 Lake Travis H.S., TX 10:00 L.D. Bell H.S., TX 10:15 Haltom H.S., TX 10:30 Rosemount H.S., MN 10:45 Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX 11:00 Bentonville West H.S., AR 11:15 Millard North H.S., NE 11:30 Carroll Senior H.S., TX 11:45 Mahomet-Seymour H.S., IL 12:00 Jenks H.S., OK 12:15 Lincoln H.S., SD 12:30 Siegel H.S., TN
12:45 BREAK
(Judge Panel 2)
1:15 Willard H.S., MO 1:30 Trinity H.S., TX 1:45 Choctaw H.S., OK 2:00 Union City H.S., TN 2:15 Cedar Rapids Prairie H.S., IA 2:30 Jefferson City H.S., MO 2:45 DeSoto Central H.S., MS 3:00 Franklin H.S., TN 3:15 Broken Arrow H.S., OK
3:30 Austin Peay State University (Exhibition) 3:45 Prelims Awards/ Announcement of Finalists
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 7, 2019 14:20:27 GMT -6
Block 2 on Saturday is going to be extremely competitive. Holy Moly.
Panel 1 definitely has got the most depth in terms of competitive bands. Here are my predictions:
Panel 1 Top 5 (In Alphabetical Order):
Blue Springs H.S., MO Haltom H.S., TX Jenks H.S., OK LD Bell H.S., TX Rosemount H.S., MN
Panel 2 Top 5 (In Alphabetical Order)
Bixby H.S., OK Broken Arrow H.S., OK Camdenton H.S., MO Coppell H.S., TX O'Fallon Township H.S., IL
Next 4 Highest Scoring (In Alphabetical Order)
Franklin H.S., TN (Panel 2) Lake Travis H.S., TX (Panel 1) Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX (Panel 1) Union H.S., OK (Panel 1)
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 8, 2019 5:35:59 GMT -6
Interesting that they chose to call the first group judging "Panel 2" and the second group "Panel 1."
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Post by midwestmarcher on Oct 8, 2019 18:24:50 GMT -6
It is going to be HARD for great bands to get into finals from panel 2. I don't know how I feel about the 2 panel judging system because while it allows good bands to get into finals it has and will kick great bands out of moving on to finals or semifinals.
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Post by Allohak on Oct 8, 2019 18:30:10 GMT -6
It is going to be HARD for great bands to get into finals from panel 2. I don't know how I feel about the 2 panel judging system because while it allows good bands to get into finals it has and will kick great bands out of moving on to finals or semifinals. In the end, it's no different than the old per day system. If anything, it's more fair to the groups who get automatically put on one day or the other due to distance travelled.
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Post by midwestmarcher on Oct 8, 2019 18:40:43 GMT -6
It is going to be HARD for great bands to get into finals from panel 2. I don't know how I feel about the 2 panel judging system because while it allows good bands to get into finals it has and will kick great bands out of moving on to finals or semifinals. In the end, it's no different than the old per day system. If anything, it's more fair to the groups who get automatically put on one day or the other due to distance travelled. Yeah I agree that this system is better than the latter however I feel as though they truly don't annalise and represent the bands that are as great as they are.
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 8, 2019 18:41:29 GMT -6
I’d say it’s about the same, every system is flawed
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Post by macwinlin on Oct 8, 2019 19:38:32 GMT -6
Finals is still full draw, right? No top/bottom 7?
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