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Post by thewho on Oct 25, 2019 7:21:01 GMT -6
Outside is a very nice autumn cold, 47-50ish. The bands tomorrow will be very jealous.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 7:37:42 GMT -6
This is a very good show for Lafayette Jefferson this season and it honestly bugs me that they are staying in ISSMA Scholastic class again. I understand that they want to have a "champion" title but really they should be in Open ISSMA Class A...
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 25, 2019 7:42:01 GMT -6
This is a very good show for Lafayette Jefferson this season and it honestly bugs me that they are staying in ISSMA Scholastic class again. I understand that they want to have a "champion" title but really they should be in ISSMA Class A... I was actually thinking the same thing. What is the cutoff for scholastic class? And how many did they have to cut out of their band to keep it under the limit? They were, by far, the best sounding band so far today.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 7:43:49 GMT -6
This is a very good show for Lafayette Jefferson this season and it honestly bugs me that they are staying in ISSMA Scholastic class again. I understand that they want to have a "champion" title but really they should be in ISSMA Class A... I was actually thinking the same thing. What is the cutoff for scholastic class? And how many did they have to cut out of their band to keep it under the limit? They were, by far, the best sounding band so far today. To my knowledge there is no cutoff. So theoretically Avon, Carmel or Homestead could join ISSMA Scholastic class if they wanted to.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 25, 2019 7:47:25 GMT -6
I was actually thinking the same thing. What is the cutoff for scholastic class? And how many did they have to cut out of their band to keep it under the limit? They were, by far, the best sounding band so far today. To my knowledge there is no cutoff. So theoretically Avon, Carmel or Homestead could join ISSMA Scholastic class if they wanted to. There is a band size limit. It's either 100, or 120 members. It has changed once or twice and I don't recall the current number, but there is definitely a limit.
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 25, 2019 7:48:47 GMT -6
To my knowledge there is no cutoff. So theoretically Avon, Carmel or Homestead could join ISSMA Scholastic class if they wanted to. There is a band size limit. It's either 100, or 120 members. It has changed once or twice and I don't recall the current number, but there is definitely a limit. Just found this on a band's site: Scholastic A consists of bands from schools that have 976 or more students in the school that have less than 120 performing members in the marching band. Scholastic B consists of bands from schools that have 975 or less students in the school that have less than 60 performing members in the marching band.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 7:50:20 GMT -6
There is a band size limit. It's either 100, or 120 members. It has changed once or twice and I don't recall the current number, but there is definitely a limit. Just found this on a band's site: Scholastic A consists of bands from schools that have 976 or more students in the school that have less than 120 performing members in the marching band. Scholastic B consists of bands from schools that have 975 or less students in the school that have less than 60 performing members in the marching band. Thank you both for the info. Glad to hear there is a cut off. Regardless... LJ needs to move back to Open Class A!
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 8:01:41 GMT -6
I thought so too!! I was really impressed with not just the band itself, but the show design --- MORE than competent enough to compete for Semi-State at the A North Regional. They could easily have hung with Pike, Zionsville, Noblesville, Whiteland, & Lake. I counted 104 members, which is of course well below the threshold, but interestingly enough, they marched about 70 winds. That's a good band size. Only had 14 guard (I would expect a good 25-30 member guard with that amount of winds), and about 20 percussion between the small drumline & pit (again, I'd expect about 25-30 total with 70 winds). Maybe not a huge focus on auxiliary programs there? I know concert band has always been the main focus for LJ, nd they've made ISSMA concert band finals many times.
I've been out of the state for a bit now, but I didn't realize their long time director, Tom Barker, had retired. I don't recognize Chris Paulson's name or know where he comes from, but that could be a legit reason to stay in Scholastic Class during a transition.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 25, 2019 9:31:35 GMT -6
Watching on Flo - kudos to the stadium announcer for learning how to pronounce Russiaville since last year :-)
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 9:44:54 GMT -6
Western was terrific!! It looks like their 2018 DOE numbers put them at 619 10-12, which is 19 over the class A cutoff. But, I believe they were about the same over last year as well, and were still A. So I would expect them to be in A again this year, and, if so, to sweep it again.
Let's go Concord!! Have a great time at your first BOA show in 10+ years!!
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 9:49:44 GMT -6
Concord's flugel soloist is OUTSTANDING!
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 9:54:33 GMT -6
It is exciting to see Concord adapting a more modern show design. While they still have work to do, the show is definitely getting there. Will we see them in finals tomorrow? I'm not sure. Will we see them in ISSMA Class A Finals? I hope so! (its a tough year).
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Post by das88 on Oct 25, 2019 9:57:13 GMT -6
Western was terrific!! It looks like their 2018 DOE numbers put them at 619 10-12, which is 19 over the class A cutoff. But, I believe they were about the same over last year as well, and were still A. So I would expect them to be in A again this year, and, if so, to sweep it again. Let's go Concord!! Have a great time at your first BOA show in 10+ years!! Western still have same director?
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 9:57:42 GMT -6
Concord was legit fantastic today. thewho, you were absolutely correct in what you had heard; they took a BIG step forward in show design today. I'd be ecstatic to see them make Finals tomorrow night, but it'll be tight. Same with ISSMA Finals. I still maintain they have some of the best playing kids in Indiana from top to bottom. They just play sooo well as an ensemble, and their soloists are out of this world. The alto flute soloist was sublime. Currently, Concord is reminding me very much of Sioux Falls Lincoln. A giant band getting used to adjusting their shows to BOA and just in or just out of Finals at the regionals they attend, but rock solid in the moving & playing department. Please keep up with BOA, Concord!
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 10:04:56 GMT -6
For those of you that don't follow Indiana Marching, this is Noblesville's first year creating a traditional competitive field designed marching show. They usually only compete in the Indiana State Track Band circuit. Considering that, this is a FANTASTIC first competitive field designed show for them. They made it to ISSMA Class A Semi-State next week which is a HUGE accomplishment. Great job Noblesville!
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Post by ignoreme on Oct 25, 2019 10:10:41 GMT -6
For those of you that don't follow Indiana Marching, this is Noblesville's first year creating a traditional competitive field designed marching show. They usually only compete in the Indiana State Track Band circuit. Considering that, this is a FANTASTIC first field designed show for them. They made it to ISSMA Class A Semi-State next week which is a HUGE accomplishment. Great job Noblesville! Wow, I never would have guessed that from watching them just now. They look good. Loved the wall theme.
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 10:11:39 GMT -6
Well done, Noblesville!!!! I can absolutely see why they made Semi-State. That was an extraordinarily well-designed show, and pretty brave attempting Music for Prague and Dresden 1945, but they pulled it off really nicely. I'm so excited they've made the transition into ISSMA & BOA; they were a component of Indiana bands we didn't know we were missing!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 25, 2019 10:17:40 GMT -6
Apropos of no group in particular: I absolutely despise prerecorded narration in marching band and drum corps, and if I made the rules, groups would be penalized a point for every second they used it.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 25, 2019 10:20:25 GMT -6
Ben Davis's opener has a bit too much cymbal crashing for my tastes -- although what I'm hearing might be distorted by the placement of Flo's mics relative to their pit.
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 10:21:30 GMT -6
Oh my god. Loving everything about BD's ballad.
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 25, 2019 10:24:44 GMT -6
I really LOVE Ben Davis's show this year. Is it the Ben Davis we all knew from the 2000's - 2010's? No... but considering their productions over the last several years, this is a great one! Sadly I don't see them making finals tomorrow (too stacked). I could possibly see them making ISSMA Class A Finals BUT Brownsburg getting the golden ticket and preforming last at Semi-State I think ruins any chances that they had. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by thewho on Oct 25, 2019 10:25:18 GMT -6
Oh my god. Loving everything about BD's ballad. Would say they..... put a spell on you?
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 25, 2019 10:26:16 GMT -6
Ben Davis, that was WONDERFUL!!!! I haven't seen a show like that out of them in a good decade, since they were competing for GN Finals. Their brass sound is certainly still rough around the edges, but WOW that's a top-to-bottom phenomenal design. Super smart & detailed, and I love the way the whole thing flows effortlessly into one unique and mysterious package with no end. Loved it!!!!
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 25, 2019 10:35:24 GMT -6
Is Dublin Coffman not significantly smaller than usual?
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Post by srv1084 on Oct 25, 2019 10:38:50 GMT -6
Is Dublin Coffman not significantly smaller than usual? Just came to ask the same question. I had to count it because I thought I was seeing things. Just under 130 members (84 winds, 27 percussion, 14 guard, 3 DM).
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 25, 2019 10:40:50 GMT -6
Here in Ohio, I never hear the Dublin Coffman band called the "Dublin Coffman Rocks". But they're called that regularly when announced in BOA. Just an odd little quirk.
Anyway, Coffman's show sounded rougher in the closer than they did when I heard them last Saturday.
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Post by ohbandie48 on Oct 25, 2019 10:40:52 GMT -6
Is Dublin Coffman not significantly smaller than usual? Yep, they used to field at least over 200 members, but I suppose some school re-districting must have significantly affected them over the recent years.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 25, 2019 10:42:01 GMT -6
Apropos of no group in particular: I absolutely despise prerecorded narration in marching band and drum corps, and if I made the rules, groups would be penalized a point for every second they used it. I'm going to add singing to this, so long as we're being all grumpy.
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Post by ohbandie48 on Oct 25, 2019 10:42:23 GMT -6
Here in Ohio, I never hear the Dublin Coffman band called the "Dublin Coffman Rocks". But they're called that regularly when announced in BOA. Just an odd little quirk. Anyway, Coffman's show sounded rougher in the closer than they did when I heard them last Saturday. It is short for "Shamrocks" and commonly confuses everyone outside of Dublin, Ohio
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 25, 2019 10:45:30 GMT -6
Do judges notice warm-up music? If a warm up has musical issues, does it at least prime the judges to be on the lookout for certain kinds of flaws in the performance?
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