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Post by dallasman on Mar 11, 2020 14:49:11 GMT -6
There is no way that the coronavirus will be obliterated by the fall, so in my opinion Bands of America can save everyone time, money, and planning by closely monitoring this situation and coming to a decision on their fall season soon.
While it may seem to be too far ahead and reactionary for some, we all know that BOA will ultimately cave and cancel events should this virus continue to permeate the planet. It will for some time.
The world will survive without a BOA Grand Nationals for one year. Who may NOT survive, however, is more important than anything to do with marching band on any level - ever.
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Post by buckeyeguy5 on Mar 11, 2020 15:18:10 GMT -6
Well, in my opinion, I think that this will go away by the summer. I would hope that BOA wouldn’t cancel the season because if I was a senior again, I would be a mess knowing that I wouldn’t be able to do it.
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Post by flynnmac on Mar 11, 2020 15:20:34 GMT -6
Well, in my opinion, I think that this will go away by the summer. I would hope that BOA wouldn’t cancel the season because if I was a senior again, I would be a mess knowing that I wouldn’t be able to do it. Sums up my views perfectly, and as I would be a senior, as much as band stresses me out out this point in the year, I'd be very sad to not get to do BOA competitions.
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 11, 2020 15:52:20 GMT -6
What? As far as I am aware, there's literally no way we can predict that far into the future.
I think it's better to watch it and see. I wouldn't want to go back and do a season knowing that I wouldn't be competing nationally. For many of these schools we talk about on this website, if there's no BOA, there's no point.
If I'm wrong, and there's some sort of oracle type on HornRank, they should go ahead and speak up so we can all stop worrying 🙏
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Post by Leasingflyer on Mar 11, 2020 16:00:55 GMT -6
I disagree. For the wgi season it’s understandable(really sad but understandable) but the boa season is months away and it would be really silly to cancel it in March instead of waiting to see what happens. Boa is very important to marching bands across the country and it would kill them to cancel it. Maybe the virus will have a cure in September, but maybe it won’t. Who knows? But we should at least give it a chance.
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Post by Samuel Culper on Mar 11, 2020 16:23:39 GMT -6
It would be horribly and irresponsibly premature to do this.
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Post by jeremiah on Mar 11, 2020 17:07:03 GMT -6
I agree with everyone else here, it is way too early to cancel events that are over six months away.
And considering that MFA is still proceeding with its national festival events this weekend in Indianapolis (where there are more confirmed cases than in Ohio), the organization doesn't seem to be quite as concerned about the threat as WGI is.
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Post by thewho on Mar 11, 2020 17:40:07 GMT -6
I liked OP's post for the survival part- I will take those lives over the activity.
However, I agree with others that cancelling BOA events is too premature at this point. I am hopeful the spread slows down, but you never know in this climate.
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 11, 2020 17:49:24 GMT -6
I agree with everyone else here, it is way too early to cancel events that are over six months away. And considering that MFA is still proceeding with its national festival events this weekend in Indianapolis (where there are more confirmed cases than in Ohio), the organization doesn't seem to be quite as concerned about the threat as WGI is. I was very surprised to see BA's SB1 still going to Indianapolis this weekend
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Mar 11, 2020 19:10:14 GMT -6
I was very surprised to see BA's SB1 still going to Indianapolis this weekend Broken Arrow knows they have responsible kids and responsible chaperones that can take preventative measures during the trip. Eh, since when does being responsible make you immune to contracting a virus? Honestly, it’s downright irresponsible to be hauling people across several States for a non-essential function right now.
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Post by clari909 on Mar 11, 2020 20:48:13 GMT -6
Honestly, everyone is making a bigger deal about this then it is. The virus is nothing more then a mutated flu, and the odds of it being severe are slim to none for middle aged people. You’re really only at risk if you are very young or very old. Seems like very young people generally aren’t at risk. I thought I read somewhere a few days ago that no one under age 9 has died from it
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 11, 2020 21:22:28 GMT -6
Honestly, everyone is making a bigger deal about this then it is. The virus is nothing more then a mutated flu, and the odds of it being severe are slim to none for middle aged people. You’re really only at risk if you are very young or very old. Or if you have a weak immune system or breathing difficulties, which are invisible disabilities that affect people of all ages. The concern is absolutely reasonable, so it’s something MFA and the rest of us will all need to monitor very closely before any decisions are made. I know I personally marched with a few people who had autoimmune diseases, so the worry is definitely valid. It’s a scary situation regardless.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Mar 12, 2020 4:58:42 GMT -6
Eh, since when does being responsible make you immune to contracting a virus? Honestly, it’s downright irresponsible to be hauling people across several States for a non-essential function right now. They know how to keep up their hygiene, avoid unnecessary contact etc etc I’m sure they’ll be fine Sure. Only people with poor hygiene contract viruses. The NBA just suspended the rest of the 2020 season. This is not about whether a group of 17 years old kids will be OK. This is about containment, so that it doesn't continue to exponentially spread. If you want the 2020 BOA season to be a go, NOW is the time to make that happen. And unnecessary school trips in this stage of a pandemic is the wrong way to proceed. Sorry. That's the way it is.
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Post by MadScientist on Mar 12, 2020 11:30:50 GMT -6
Honestly, everyone is making a bigger deal about this then it is. The virus is nothing more then a mutated flu, and the odds of it being severe are slim to none for middle aged people. You’re really only at risk if you are very young or very old. Coronaviruses are not even remotely related to influenza viruses. So this is not a mutated flu, but a completely separate, novel virus. Deaths have occurred in individuals 30+. Thus, while severe disease is uncommon in children, they could still get it, or act as carriers, and infect their parent or grandparents. Or they could infect their immunocompromised friends or those with underlying health conditions, as other have stated.
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Post by dallasman on Mar 12, 2020 16:34:25 GMT -6
It would be horribly and irresponsibly premature to do this. Respectfully, that's pretty ignorant. This thing isn't going away anytime soon and we will be dealing with it for a while. I don't think that many people would miss BOA or marching band in the fall, except for football games, which may also ultimately be cancelled anyway.
I do not see how this just magically goes away overnight. It won't simply die in the summer heat and never come back. We don't have a way yet to handle this - vaccines, etc.
BOA should take decisive action, but maybe they'll wait until the individual states ban large public events.
Positive Life Changing Experiences should not equal Positively Life Ending Experiences either.
Best to all.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Mar 12, 2020 18:15:23 GMT -6
It would be horribly and irresponsibly premature to do this. Respectfully, that's pretty ignorant. This thing isn't going away anytime soon and we will be dealing with it for a while. I don't think that many people would miss BOA or marching band in the fall, except for football games, which may also ultimately be cancelled anyway.
I do not see how this just magically goes away overnight. It won't simply die in the summer heat and never come back. We don't have a way yet to handle this - vaccines, etc.
BOA should take decisive action, but maybe they'll wait until the individual states ban large public events.
Positive Life Changing Experiences should not equal Positively Life Ending Experiences either.
Best to all.
You might end up being correct. But there’s no reason to make such a call today.
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Post by Samuel Culper on Mar 12, 2020 18:30:15 GMT -6
It would be horribly and irresponsibly premature to do this. Respectfully, that's pretty ignorant. This thing isn't going away anytime soon and we will be dealing with it for a while. I don't think that many people would miss BOA or marching band in the fall, except for football games, which may also ultimately be cancelled anyway.
I do not see how this just magically goes away overnight. It won't simply die in the summer heat and never come back. We don't have a way yet to handle this - vaccines, etc.
BOA should take decisive action, but maybe they'll wait until the individual states ban large public events.
Positive Life Changing Experiences should not equal Positively Life Ending Experiences either.
Best to all.
There is NOTHING ignorant about what I posted. And I don't think this will go away overnight. I do think it is reasonable to hope that things get substantially more contained. But how about this fact: The first BOA contest is over six months away. There is plenty of time to see where this trends and make a responsible decision that gives plenty of notice without being positively reactionary.
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Post by Leasingflyer on Mar 12, 2020 19:12:26 GMT -6
It would be horribly and irresponsibly premature to do this. Respectfully, that's pretty ignorant. This thing isn't going away anytime soon and we will be dealing with it for a while. I don't think that many people would miss BOA or marching band in the fall, except for football games, which may also ultimately be cancelled anyway.
I do not see how this just magically goes away overnight. It won't simply die in the summer heat and never come back. We don't have a way yet to handle this - vaccines, etc.
BOA should take decisive action, but maybe they'll wait until the individual states ban large public events.
Positive Life Changing Experiences should not equal Positively Life Ending Experiences either.
Best to all.
Ummm not to burst your bubble but boa is one of the most beloved thing in the marching band community... especially after the cancellation of wgi and many other circuits, it would be really bad for the rising seniors to cancel the boa season.
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Post by buckeyeguy5 on Mar 12, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -6
I don’t feel as if BOA cancelling is necessary, and it would be a terrible thing. After WGI and all the indoor circuits closing, people will be clamoring for a chance to perform. They lost valuable performances. I believe BOA needs to do any and every little thing that they can to keep it going, both for the students as well as the spectators.
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Post by hewhowaits on Mar 13, 2020 5:54:51 GMT -6
Bottom line - if the competitions were in the next 30 days - cancellation "may" be prudent.
90 days out cancellation would be premature given the limited understanding of how things will go.
Cancellation of something more than six months away before more is understood would be behaving in a "Chicken Little" way.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Mar 13, 2020 6:17:00 GMT -6
We are not epidemiologists last time I checked, nor are we able to predict the future. Let’s not have an Eeyore approach to something that we have zero knowledge of how it will turn out. Staying positive is very necessary right now.
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Post by MadScientist on Mar 16, 2020 11:05:15 GMT -6
We are not epidemiologists last time I checked, nor are we able to predict the future. Let’s not have an Eeyore approach to something that we have zero knowledge of how it will turn out. Staying positive is very necessary right now. No, but I am a microbiologist and study this sort of thing. I agree that it's too early to predict what's going to happen in the Fall. With SARS, which is closely related to the current coronavirus, once the initial epidemic was contained, there were no more cases globally, and there haven't been to this day as far as I can find. I'm hopeful that this illness will follow a similar pattern. Like LeanderMomma said, let's all stay positive!
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Post by madisonbandman1 on Mar 16, 2020 12:17:19 GMT -6
My god I just realized imagine if MERS has as high of a R naught as COVID-19. That’s a scary thought.
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Mar 16, 2020 19:35:46 GMT -6
No, but I am a microbiologist and study this sort of thing. I agree that it's too early to predict what's going to happen in the Fall. With SARS, which is closely related to the current coronavirus, once the initial epidemic was contained, there were no more cases globally, and there haven't been to this day as far as I can find. I'm hopeful that this illness will follow a similar pattern. Like LeanderMomma said, let's all stay positive! I hope this happens so much. Who knows if it will, but it would be a positive. My only fear is that by the time the virus would subside, too much damage will already be done, either with the health of everyone or just in our culture. We'll have to see how the economy and people's finances make out once this passes. I wouldn't be surprised if some bands from less affluent areas end up reducing their travel schedule for the Fall and stay closer to home. May lead to some smaller lineups at some BOA shows that aren't in band hotbed areas, but I doubt we'll see much in the way of cancellations.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Mar 16, 2020 21:27:03 GMT -6
I worried about the 2001 season after 911 and the 2008 season with the financial recession. Both came out OK. I will admit, this time things look much gloomier. Still too early to say how things will unfold, but 2020 is not looking good for sports or the marching arts. This economic downturn may also affect programs for a few years. I certainly foresee a reduction in big budget shows and props; perhaps scaling back the number of competitions too. Skipping a complete year of competition will also affect things for a few years down the road. Ugh.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Mar 17, 2020 7:08:10 GMT -6
Many groups start various forms of summer rehearsals in June. Band camps can start in July. Will this be over by then? At least over enough to allow these sorts of activities to resume? Fall competitions are one thing. But we must remember that the prep for these competitions begins months earlier. It's far to early to make any calls, but I'm starting to have my doubts.
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Post by ilikeguard on Mar 17, 2020 20:35:38 GMT -6
Broken Arrow has pushed back Pride auditions indefinitely, so I'm sure other auditioned groups have done the same. At the very minimum the current closings are handicapping a lot of groups that normally have movement camps and sectionals around this time. I'm certain some are keeping the kids busy with video assignments, but there's nothing to be done about that valuable ensemble time that takes place in the spring semester.
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Post by verysaxy on Mar 18, 2020 7:12:36 GMT -6
This is supposed to go ok until July. I still don’t see BOA canceling but I definitely see certain bands canceling band camp or their whole season. Especially the ones limited with practice time. Some bands may not even see their whole show on the field without that valuable summer. That being said, for some of the bands it won’t be a problem because their school schedule is PACKED.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Mar 18, 2020 7:59:13 GMT -6
This is supposed to go ok until July. I still don’t see BOA canceling but I definitely see certain bands canceling band camp or their whole season. Especially the ones limited with practice time. Some bands may not even see their whole show on the field without that valuable summer. That being said, for some of the bands it won’t be a problem because their school schedule is PACKED. Yeah, I could also see a scenario where schools start up in Fall, but extra curricular activities might still be curtailed. Pure speculation of course. But there are lots of models which suggest that this could slow down a bit in summer but come back in the Fall. It's not hard to imagine an abundance of caution causing some school systems to curtail Fall activities drastically. Whatever happens I don't think it'll be a normal BOA season, for sure.
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Post by turfday on Mar 19, 2020 0:10:39 GMT -6
As long as football thrives, marching will follow and yes football will continue with much support while marching may struggle to find its footing but it will have to suffice for now.
Some schools marching season will see minimal effect while others will see a drastic one. It is sad but this virus is in no way fair to anyone and that includes our marching schools.
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