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Post by kvbrass on May 27, 2020 11:37:15 GMT -6
I’m starting to think the northwest won’t have a marching season regardless from what I’m hearing from some friends that teach up there and a Texas friend has said his ISD is only allowing out of state trips for invited competitions and performances.
What’s Indiana or Ohio saying?
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Post by turfday on May 27, 2020 11:53:39 GMT -6
If BOA does cancel there are a few hotspots around the country where bands don't have to travel much that have a lot of local contests. Off the top of my head, DFW and Houston.
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Post by Allohak on May 27, 2020 11:56:35 GMT -6
I’m starting to think the northwest won’t have a marching season regardless from what I’m hearing from some friends that teach up there and a Texas friend has said his ISD is only allowing out of state trips for invited competitions and performances. What’s Indiana or Ohio saying? Nothing officially official, yet, in Ohio. But notices from my local school district are discussing possibilities for not being in session come fall
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Post by 70sguardchick on May 27, 2020 12:15:51 GMT -6
I’m starting to think the northwest won’t have a marching season regardless from what I’m hearing from some friends that teach up there and a Texas friend has said his ISD is only allowing out of state trips for invited competitions and performances. What’s Indiana or Ohio saying? Nothing officially official, yet, in Ohio. But notices from my local school district are discussing possibilities for not being in session come fall Nothing official yet in Indiana either. Our school is done for the summer, so the kids are doing music sectional rehearsals online, with hopes of starting in-person in July. But who knows? If we had to stay local, the Indy metro has Carmel, Avon, Zionsville, Brownsburg, Center Grove, Hamilton Southeastern, Fishers, Lawrence Twp, Plainfield and Greenwood, to name a few, so we could probably put together a couple of serious competitions. But hey, Disney World plans to open in July, so who's to say what will happen?
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on May 28, 2020 18:08:44 GMT -6
Surprised no one mentioned it yet, but the Texas governor announced that pro sports can operate with 25% capacity of fans in TX starting soon.
Another good step towards seeing some band, somewhere, this fall.
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Post by supersound on May 28, 2020 19:30:17 GMT -6
Looks like I'll have to buy tickets extra early next year
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Post by marimba11 on May 28, 2020 20:07:11 GMT -6
Schools are starting early in the Carolinas, looks like local shows will at least be back to normal.
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Post by kvbrass on May 28, 2020 21:13:11 GMT -6
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 28, 2020 22:58:23 GMT -6
Reading that PDF and it mentioning how IF band happens the participants and directors/staff should get temperature/symptom screenings before rehearsals etc. made me think that even if band were to happen there would be a lot of people missing rehearsals. Schools are a prime location for viruses to spread and students are getting sick all the time with viruses that present symptoms that are not unlike some of the Covid symptoms. So if a bunch of kids pass around a respiratory virus that gives them a cough and a low grade fever it might just be a cold, but Covid precautions mean those kids are going to be missing some time.
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Post by paddy on May 29, 2020 6:39:25 GMT -6
Also in the guidelines is social distancing on bus transportation.
10 kids on a bus, 150 kids in band, 15 buses.
That just increased transportation costs 5x, assuming you can get 15 drivers.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 29, 2020 6:47:09 GMT -6
Also in the guidelines is social distancing on bus transportation. 10 kids on a bus, 150 kids in band, 15 buses. That just increased transportation costs 5x, assuming you can get 15 drivers. 😳
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Post by Allohak on May 29, 2020 7:51:40 GMT -6
From an email I got this morning from the superintendent for Bellbrook:
...the Governor's office and the OHSAA permit the reopening of school facilities (at the discretion of individual school districts) as well as individual skill training for student-athletes to begin as soon as Tuesday, May 26.
District administrators have met and have examined guidelines from Premier Health, OHSAA, and the Governor’s office. Utilizing these sets of recommendations our administration has put a plan in place to ensure the safest possible “return to play” for all of our students, coaches and staff starting Monday, June 1.
Both parents and students involved in summer workouts and practices as well as organizations/groups that use our facilities must agree and adhere to our return to play guidelines. [We] will be sending out these guidelines to those involved in athletics and marching band...
We’re excited that our student-athletes and marching band members will soon be able to responsibly resume participation in extracurricular activities. Thank you for your support and cooperation as we navigate and implement this process.
TL;DR - schools can do what they want within reason
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on May 29, 2020 8:20:22 GMT -6
From an email I got this morning from the superintendent for Bellbrook: ...the Governor's office and the OHSAA permit the reopening of school facilities (at the discretion of individual school districts) as well as individual skill training for student-athletes to begin as soon as Tuesday, May 26. District administrators have met and have examined guidelines from Premier Health, OHSAA, and the Governor’s office. Utilizing these sets of recommendations our administration has put a plan in place to ensure the safest possible “return to play” for all of our students, coaches and staff starting Monday, June 1. Both parents and students involved in summer workouts and practices as well as organizations/groups that use our facilities must agree and adhere to our return to play guidelines. [We] will be sending out these guidelines to those involved in athletics and marching band... We’re excited that our student-athletes and marching band members will soon be able to responsibly resume participation in extracurricular activities. Thank you for your support and cooperation as we navigate and implement this process. TL;DR - schools can do what they want within reason I hate to say it (cause I'm probably wrong), but this week there have been alot of signs towards a season happening. As we've said, maybe not anywhere, but it's looking likely in alot of places. Now if only there was the "There will be football" announcement to confirm everything.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 29, 2020 8:36:59 GMT -6
Also in the guidelines is social distancing on bus transportation. 10 kids on a bus, 150 kids in band, 15 buses. That just increased transportation costs 5x, assuming you can get 15 drivers. 😳 Think about 200 kids, or 250 kids. Plus chaperones and staff. An AAAA band probably transports 300+ people, right?
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Post by Allohak on May 29, 2020 8:46:46 GMT -6
Think about 200 kids, or 250 kids. Plus chaperones and staff. An AAAA band probably transports 300+ people, right? I can think of some GN Finals-regulars who transport 400+ frequently...
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 29, 2020 9:47:38 GMT -6
Yeah, completely impractical, especially for a contest. We host a contest with 26 bands and struggle to park all the busses already. We wouldn't be able to accommodate 10 bands under that guideline.
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Post by secret on May 29, 2020 9:49:12 GMT -6
Even if marching band happens next season, I can't see a scenario where bands are traveling across states. To be honest, I am skeptical about there being a marching band season at all this fall, but if it does happen, I think every band in the nation will be confined to only local competitions.
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Post by Allohak on May 29, 2020 9:58:57 GMT -6
Even if marching band happens next season, I can't see a scenario where bands are traveling across states. To be honest, I am skeptical about there being a marching band season at all this fall, but if it does happen, I think every band in the nation will be confined to only local competitions. I'm inclined to agree. School being in session does not necessarily mean extracurriculars will end up happening. Football happening does not necessarily mean that a competitive marching season will happen. The logistics for band competitions is incredibly difficult in a normal year, the added restrictions and requirements we're seeing will make it nearly impossible to accommodate. I sincerely hope things get figured out so that we see a competitive season, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by paddy on May 29, 2020 10:54:22 GMT -6
Another item: practicing in pods of 5-10 with one instructor
Not many bands can practice their battery line together and stay under 10. They will have the same issue with other sections as well, but you can split up a trumpet section and be productive. Tougher to split up your battery.
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on May 29, 2020 11:04:05 GMT -6
Another item: practicing in pods of 5-10 with one instructor Not many bands can practice their battery line together and stay under 10. They will have the same issue with other sections as well, but you can split up a trumpet section and be productive. Tougher to split up your battery. I guess you could do sub sectionals with battery. But you have to get them involved together eventually. And even worse - front ensemble - even though, they actually might be good, because they can socially distance in pit.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 29, 2020 11:35:16 GMT -6
Another item: practicing in pods of 5-10 with one instructor Not many bands can practice their battery line together and stay under 10. They will have the same issue with other sections as well, but you can split up a trumpet section and be productive. Tougher to split up your battery. I guess you could do sub sectionals with battery. But you have to get them involved together eventually. And even worse - front ensemble - even though, they actually might be good, because they can socially distance in pit. Those guidelines were just recommendations anyway. There was nothing binding there. Individual States and school districts will make their own policies. I think there will be band in some form of another. As has been alluded to, I think various travel policies will determine whether it makes sense for there to be a BOA circuit. It may be a tough call for MFA if some States are open and some are more locked down. Where is the line between having the shows go on and no longer being worthwhile? Is GN's still GN's if TX, OK, MO bands can't come?
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Post by paddy on May 29, 2020 12:00:20 GMT -6
As soon as someone like CDC or NFHS send out info they become more than recommendations in the mind of some.
If for no other reason than it becomes an info point for liability and litigation.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 29, 2020 13:27:41 GMT -6
I guess you could do sub sectionals with battery. But you have to get them involved together eventually. And even worse - front ensemble - even though, they actually might be good, because they can socially distance in pit. Those guidelines were just recommendations anyway. There was nothing binding there. Individual States and school districts will make their own policies. I think there will be band in some form of another. As has been alluded to, I think various travel policies will determine whether it makes sense for there to be a BOA circuit. It may be a tough call for MFA if some States are open and some are more locked down. Where is the line between having the shows go on and no longer being worthwhile? Is GN's still GN's if TX, OK, MO bands can't come? Ill take the bait but Grand Nationals has always been a championship even in TX, OK or MO don’t show up. If this season happens it’s business as usual in Indiana regardless of Possible limited practice schedules of those programs attending.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 29, 2020 14:54:54 GMT -6
Is GN's still GN's if TX, OK, MO bands can't come? Ill take the bait but Grand Nationals has always been a championship even in TX, OK or MO don’t show up. If this season happens it’s business as usual in Indiana regardless of Possible limited practice schedules of those programs attending. And San Antonio will still be awesome without the small number of random non-Texas bands.
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 29, 2020 15:07:45 GMT -6
Try to imagine that you are a senior in one of the Texas bands planning to go to Grand Nats this fall, one with hopes to make Finals. Imagine that the marching season happens, but you are not allowed to travel to Indy.
I really, really hope it doesn't come to that. My senior would be devastated beyond words.
Would it still be Grand Nats? Not in the eyes of some who expected to be there.
(I am well aware that perspective is skewed, just sharing it as I believe it to be relevant.)
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 29, 2020 17:00:44 GMT -6
Try to imagine that you are a senior in one of the Texas bands planning to go to Grand Nats this fall, one with hopes to make Finals. Imagine that the marching season happens, but you are not allowed to travel to Indy. I really, really hope it doesn't come to that. My senior would be devastated beyond words. Would it still be Grand Nats? Not in the eyes of some who expected to be there. (I am well aware that perspective is skewed, just sharing it as I believe it to be relevant.) Mine would be absolutely devastated! Grand Nats is all these kids can talk about. She's a senior to boot!
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 24, 2020 8:48:06 GMT -6
Official statement from Music for All today (06/24):
An update from Music for All on the 2020 Bands of America season: Surveying participating directors and consulting with the BOA Advisory Committee, we continue the planning for our 2020 Bands of America Championships.
To help with bands’ planning and show preparations, Bands of America’s minimum performance time will be reduced from six (6) to five (5) minutes for 2020. Bands will be permitted a performance time from 5 to 11 minutes for the 2020 Bands of America Championship season. BOA reserves the right to any further considerations if conditions warrant.
We will continue to address appropriate modifications to operations in terms of safety guidelines for participants and spectators.
marching.musicforall.org
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Post by principalagent on Jun 24, 2020 9:32:43 GMT -6
Official statement from Music for All today (06/24): An update from Music for All on the 2020 Bands of America season: Surveying participating directors and consulting with the BOA Advisory Committee, we continue the planning for our 2020 Bands of America Championships. To help with bands’ planning and show preparations, Bands of America’s minimum performance time will be reduced from six (6) to five (5) minutes for 2020. Bands will be permitted a performance time from 5 to 11 minutes for the 2020 Bands of America Championship season. BOA reserves the right to any further considerations if conditions warrant. We will continue to address appropriate modifications to operations in terms of safety guidelines for participants and spectators. marching.musicforall.org Is this the bargaining stage? Or are they still in denial?
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Post by dbalash on Jun 24, 2020 9:57:52 GMT -6
Official statement from Music for All today (06/24): An update from Music for All on the 2020 Bands of America season: Surveying participating directors and consulting with the BOA Advisory Committee, we continue the planning for our 2020 Bands of America Championships. To help with bands’ planning and show preparations, Bands of America’s minimum performance time will be reduced from six (6) to five (5) minutes for 2020. Bands will be permitted a performance time from 5 to 11 minutes for the 2020 Bands of America Championship season. BOA reserves the right to any further considerations if conditions warrant. We will continue to address appropriate modifications to operations in terms of safety guidelines for participants and spectators. marching.musicforall.org Is this the bargaining stage? Or are they still in denial? $$$$$$$$
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Post by principalagent on Jun 25, 2020 10:02:45 GMT -6
Midwest Clinic canceled. Not looking good for marching band.
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