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Post by 70sguardchick on May 4, 2020 16:31:52 GMT -6
With the announcement of Gov. Holcomb's 5-state reopening of Indiana, what do you envision the fall marching season looking like in Indiana? Although socially distanced groups of up to 250 will be allowed in June, do we think schools will allow practices at that time? Or will the July 4th "opening" date be the start of practices? What will the impact on shows be - shorter shows, simpler drills, fewer props? I'm interested in any thoughts, musings, predictions.....
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 4, 2020 17:12:12 GMT -6
With the announcement of Gov. Holcomb's 5-state reopening of Indiana, what do you envision the fall marching season looking like in Indiana? Although socially distanced groups of up to 250 will be allowed in June, do we think schools will allow practices at that time? Or will the July 4th "opening" date be the start of practices? What will the impact on shows be - shorter shows, simpler drills, fewer props? I'm interested in any thoughts, musings, predictions..... Well, K-12 schools including all activities are closed through June 30, so there will be no band activities until July no matter what. I know that this will affect Homestead's planned summer schedule. I can't speak about anyone else's. It's really hard to say at this point. Personally, I'm finding it hard to see a normal competition season in the Fall. Especially when you get up to the BOA level. As someone else pointed out in another thread, if this is still going on at all, as a parent will you be all that wild about sending your kid on trips to competitions? And I'd guess that a lot of school districts will be reluctant to stick their necks out and put kids and staff at risk. If there is any question about safety, there will be no band. Just my opinion.
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Post by 70sguardchick on May 5, 2020 6:58:33 GMT -6
Cancellation of the season is always in the back of our minds - I know our directors are trying to move ahead assuming there will be some semblance of a season, and our prop dads are dying to start building. I don't think anyone is mentally ready to throw in the towel just yet, and are looking for ways to make the season happen with some accommodations. I have even heard some band parents say we should all just march last year's show, but that's highly unlikely.
I'm sure early invitationals will be cancelled - I could see maybe ISSMA competitions in Oct-Nov, and maybe BOA Grand Nats, but nothing else.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 5, 2020 7:32:54 GMT -6
Cancellation of the season is always in the back of our minds - I know our directors are trying to move ahead assuming there will be some semblance of a season, and our prop dads are dying to start building. I don't think anyone is mentally ready to throw in the towel just yet, and are looking for ways to make the season happen with some accommodations. I have even heard some band parents say we should all just march last year's show, but that's highly unlikely. I'm sure early invitationals will be cancelled - I could see maybe ISSMA competitions in Oct-Nov, and maybe BOA Grand Nats, but nothing else. It's interesting, because I could see the reverse. I could see band activity on a smaller scale with local and smaller invitationals happening since they tend not to involve huge crowds and extensive travel. But something like GN's with kids traveling for multiple days from all over the country and huge crowds? If you were the Governor of Indiana and there was still virus activity going on would you want to welcome visitors from 25 States into downtown Indianapolis for a marching band competition? I hope we get there, but I think the smaller things have a better chance of happening than the bigger things.
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 7:44:22 GMT -6
Cancellation of the season is always in the back of our minds - I know our directors are trying to move ahead assuming there will be some semblance of a season, and our prop dads are dying to start building. I don't think anyone is mentally ready to throw in the towel just yet, and are looking for ways to make the season happen with some accommodations. I have even heard some band parents say we should all just march last year's show, but that's highly unlikely. I'm sure early invitationals will be cancelled - I could see maybe ISSMA competitions in Oct-Nov, and maybe BOA Grand Nats, but nothing else. It's interesting, because I could see the reverse. I could see band activity on a smaller scale with local and smaller invitationals happening since they tend not to involve huge crowds and extensive travel. But something like GN's with kids traveling for multiple days from all over the country and huge crowds? If you were the Governor of Indiana and there was still virus activity going on would you want to welcome visitors from 25 States into downtown Indianapolis for a marching band competition? I hope we get there, but I think the smaller things have a better chance of happening than the bigger things. This is where I see things going, too. That is, if anything happens at all. With every passing day without confirmation otherwise, I think it more likely that no extracurriculars of any kind will be happening in the 2020-21 school year. And in the grand scheme of things, that's probably the "right" way to handle this, whether we like it or not. We'll see how opening things back up goes, but I, for one, am not particularly optimistic that it's a good idea yet. We could easily see the virus explode worse than before if people aren't careful.
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Post by 70sguardchick on May 5, 2020 7:47:22 GMT -6
I didn't think of it like that, but you might be right - I was mostly thinking in terms of timeline. So if BOA Indy Super and/or Grand nats would happen, would you envision it being on a smaller scale with more Indiana and area competitors? Obviously worst case is total cancellation, but next step up?
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 7:50:53 GMT -6
I didn't think of it like that, but you might be right - I was mostly thinking in terms of timeline. So if BOA Indy Super and/or Grand nats would happen, would you envision it being on a smaller scale with more Indiana and area competitors? Obviously worst case is total cancellation, but next step up? We could end up with smaller, local-type invitationals and such happening later in the "season" with bigger, regional (and national) events canceled altogether. Probably more likely than feeling good about groups traveling and congregating in large volume
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 5, 2020 7:57:39 GMT -6
It's interesting, because I could see the reverse. I could see band activity on a smaller scale with local and smaller invitationals happening since they tend not to involve huge crowds and extensive travel. But something like GN's with kids traveling for multiple days from all over the country and huge crowds? If you were the Governor of Indiana and there was still virus activity going on would you want to welcome visitors from 25 States into downtown Indianapolis for a marching band competition? I hope we get there, but I think the smaller things have a better chance of happening than the bigger things. This is where I see things going, too. That is, if anything happens at all. With every passing day without confirmation otherwise, I think it more likely that no extracurriculars of any kind will be happening in the 2020-21 school year. And in the grand scheme of things, that's probably the "right" way to handle this, whether we like it or not Of course, this is another interesting question since the whole extracurricular activity question comes down to States, or even individual School districts. Some States like Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, and Indiana have been pretty strict with their guidelines and slower to lift them. Other States like Georgia, Florida, the Carolinas...not sure about Texas...have been quicker to get back to normal. So we could roll into Fall with some States full on into activities as normal, and others still locked down. How does MFA react to that? Especially when it holds events in all different States. All speculation, obviously. But I sense a messy Fall.
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Post by MadScientist on May 5, 2020 11:46:46 GMT -6
Well...if they do end up cancelling everything in the Fall, hopefully they make it up bands next year and allow them to have 20 minute shows.
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Post by trumpetplayer03 on May 5, 2020 11:57:05 GMT -6
I'm wondering if it would be economically feasible to hold competitions with a limited audience.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 5, 2020 12:12:21 GMT -6
Well...if they do end up cancelling everything in the Fall, hopefully they make it up bands next year and allow them to have 20 minute shows. 20 minute shows, you say? I've got just the concept!
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Post by rabb2t on May 5, 2020 12:31:58 GMT -6
In my opinion, it's still a little too early for re-opening. For me, the fall season with the local events really depends on the next few weeks after re-opening. I know that my response really isn't answering the question, but in my opinion, if cases still remain low after re-opening, we could have a strong fall season. However, if cases actually increase as a result of opening this early, then we could be looking at a less hopeful chance for the early fall. It all comes down to this re-opening phase.
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Post by paddy on May 5, 2020 13:39:00 GMT -6
I'm wondering if it would be economically feasible to hold competitions with a limited audience. Not really. Schools host invitationals to make money. They make money selling tickets and concessions and getting sponorships. All of those things require butts in the seats. You could see a situation where ISSMA finds a way to host their competitions (Open and Scholastic) with limited crowds, but that would take a real financial commitment from them and some sponsors to make that happen. Maybe even finding a way to sell a virtual ticket with a live stream of the contest. Even then you have to figure out how to get up to 20 bands in one place safely. Or could we see a modified situation where semi-state is dropped and the top (?) band from each regional is sent to state. Or semi-state is smaller and at 2 sites.
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 13:59:56 GMT -6
In my opinion, it's still a little too early for re-opening. For me, the fall season with the local events really depends on the next few weeks after re-opening. I know that my response really isn't answering the question, but in my opinion, if cases still remain low after re-opening, we could have a strong fall season. However, if cases actually increase as a result of opening this early, then we could be looking at a less hopeful chance for the early fall. It all comes down to this re-opening phase. My thoughts exactly
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 14:00:15 GMT -6
Well...if they do end up cancelling everything in the Fall, hopefully they make it up bands next year and allow them to have 20 minute shows. 20 minute shows, you say? I've got just the concept! Yes. Please.
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Post by TeamIndiana on May 5, 2020 14:18:25 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see what happens. The "good" news as of now is that everyone is on a level playing field. No auditions or practices are taking place currently, and will not, until the K-12 schools open back up. For bands that typically have early summer practices in May & June (Castle comes to mind), this may cause a problem. For the bands that typically don't do anything until July & August, this will not be as impactful.
Minus a slow start at the beginning of the season, I see the remainder of the season moving forward as normal (with some extra precautions). We know this virus is not going anywhere anytime soon. The infections numbers will fluctuate with state re-openings and the seasons. It is something that we will have to commonly deal with, just like the flu.
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 14:37:05 GMT -6
No auditions or practices are taking place currently, and will not, until the K-12 schools open back up. Mmmm...yeah this is definitely not the case. Technology is a wonderful thing.
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Post by TeamIndiana on May 5, 2020 14:49:20 GMT -6
No auditions or practices are taking place currently, and will not, until the K-12 schools open back up. Mmmm...yeah this is definitely not the case. Technology is a wonderful thing. Sure, there are virtual “practices / auditions” that are taking placed BUT that will never be the same as a full band/guard practice. Most major programs will be distributing music for practice (if they have not already done so) but they won’t be practicing as a section or group until the K-12 school closures are lifted thus putting everyone on a "level” playing field. Everyone will be behind. Severity will be depending on their summer schedule and how much of that will need to be modified.
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2020 17:08:56 GMT -6
Mmmm...yeah this is definitely not the case. Technology is a wonderful thing. Sure, there are virtual “practices / auditions” that are taking placed BUT that will never be the same as a full band/guard practice. Most major programs will be distributing music for practice (if they have not already done so) but they won’t be practicing as a section or group until the K-12 school closures are lifted thus putting everyone on a "level” playing field. Everyone will be behind. Severity will be depending on their summer schedule and how much of that will need to be modified. This is true. Many groups are using different methods for the early stages of season preparation than they would be under normal circumstances. In some cases, it may even be advantageous to have all the kids submitting recordings amd attending virtual sectionals and such. The potential is there for more individualized instruction and development earlier in the game. There aren't full-band, in-person rehearsals happening, but to say that bands aren't able to do anything is certainly taking that and running with it.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 6, 2020 6:06:55 GMT -6
Well...if they do end up cancelling everything in the Fall, hopefully they make it up bands next year and allow them to have 20 minute shows. 20 minute shows, you say? I've got just the concept! Or something based on Hemispheres. Would LOVE to hear a group with great woodwinds play La Villa Strangiato.
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Post by Allohak on May 6, 2020 6:41:00 GMT -6
20 minute shows, you say? I've got just the concept! Or something based on Hemispheres. Would LOVE to hear a group with great woodwinds play La Villa Strangiato. Wando. We should probably call Bobby and make this happen.
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Post by tubamom on May 6, 2020 7:51:48 GMT -6
My thoughts are that things will happen but on a smaller scale. Schools that typically host a full day of competition from all classes.....maybe only host one class? And maybe ISSMA spreads out the regional, semi-state and state competitions? Probably not the easiest thing to do....or economical....but they may find a way to make it work? I've also thought....maybe schools will compete virtually from their home fields? Which would not be the best plan....but would be an option? It will be interesting for sure to see how things play out. I don't think that schools will completely do away with extra curricular activities. Also, at some schools, marching band is not extra curricular....it is a class.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 6, 2020 8:39:56 GMT -6
Or something based on Hemispheres. Would LOVE to hear a group with great woodwinds play La Villa Strangiato. Wando. We should probably call Bobby and make this happen. I was thinking Tarpon Springs. Imagine the production they would add around the amazing woodwinds.
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Post by Allohak on May 6, 2020 11:11:45 GMT -6
Wando. We should probably call Bobby and make this happen. I was thinking Tarpon Springs. Imagine the production they would add around the amazing woodwinds. TS could create quite a "show", but I'd prefer to have the music itself done justice. (Not to say Tarpon does music wrong, I just love Wando's sound)
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Post by 70sguardchick on Jun 4, 2020 11:30:55 GMT -6
One of the reporters covering the Statehouse is saying the Governor will discuss school status at his presser tomorrow - hopefully it will give more clarity to plans for school in the fall and the start of summer activities.....
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Post by 70sguardchick on Jun 4, 2020 12:32:55 GMT -6
Sadly, the track show season is officially done - they just announced that the State Fair is cancelled, so no Band Day.
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Post by angelee on Jun 4, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -6
One of the reporters covering the Statehouse is saying the Governor will discuss school status at his presser tomorrow - hopefully it will give more clarity to plans for school in the fall and the start of summer activities..... Do we know what time he speaks and where it’s available?
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Post by clari909 on Jun 4, 2020 21:02:19 GMT -6
One of the reporters covering the Statehouse is saying the Governor will discuss school status at his presser tomorrow - hopefully it will give more clarity to plans for school in the fall and the start of summer activities..... Do we know what time he speaks and where it’s available? I believe it’ll be available to watch live on his Facebook page, that’s where I’ve watched in the past. Not sure on the time.
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Post by bandaid on Jun 4, 2020 21:15:02 GMT -6
I think they usually start at 2:30?
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Jun 5, 2020 4:41:54 GMT -6
One of the reporters covering the Statehouse is saying the Governor will discuss school status at his presser tomorrow - hopefully it will give more clarity to plans for school in the fall and the start of summer activities..... Do we know what time he speaks and where it’s available? wane.com normally carries the stream, and the normal time is 2:30 pm.
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