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Post by kvbrass on May 18, 2020 15:57:59 GMT -6
We’re seeing some online drum corps camps. I feel like that has to be hard make worthwhile. Anyone been to one or taught one?
Are high schools going online? Any programs of note so far?
Are they allowed to hold in-person rehearsal in Texas? Georgia? Colorado? Other states that are more open...
Nothing allowed in California now. Getting antsy.
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Post by twhsalumniparent on May 18, 2020 16:56:43 GMT -6
Texas is allowing summer camps, little leagues, church camps, etc. to open on May 31. So if that holds band and sports may be fine when they start in August.
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Post by kvbrass on May 18, 2020 17:29:06 GMT -6
Texas is allowing summer camps, little leagues, church camps, etc. to open on May 31. So if that holds band and sports may be fine when they start in August. Wild. I guess with UIL they can’t really do like June camp in Texas huh? |
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 18, 2020 17:33:32 GMT -6
Texas is allowing summer camps, little leagues, church camps, etc. to open on May 31. So if that holds band and sports may be fine when they start in August. Wild. I guess with UIL they can’t really do like June camp in Texas huh? Nope. Texas Bands can’t actually start working on drill till August 1st per UIL. |
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 19, 2020 9:59:49 GMT -6
Oh? Is that published somewhere?
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Post by turfday on May 19, 2020 10:02:58 GMT -6
Yes and UIL has many strict regulations on practice times as well it's real
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Post by turfday on May 19, 2020 10:03:31 GMT -6
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 19, 2020 11:52:05 GMT -6
Is this the proof you wanted? www.uiltexas.org/music/marching-bandI wasn't asking for a link to the UIL website. Where does it state that summer band can't start until 8/1? Because that date isn't anywhere on that site. |
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 19, 2020 11:54:40 GMT -6
This is what UIL states, "(1) “The members of this marching band or any of its components did not begin the marching preparation for this UIL contest presentation prior to August 1. In addition, no more than 10 hours of supervised instructional time was devoted to marching fundamentals between the end of the previous school term and August 1.” EXCEPTION: Auxiliary camps, leadership training and preparation for special summer events such as civic parades, professional football game appearances and other noncompetitive performances are not considered a violation of this limitation." This is the link from 2018 www.uiltexas.org/files/music/Summer_Marching_Band_Rules_and_Interpretations.pdf |
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 19, 2020 12:00:17 GMT -6
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 19, 2020 12:33:30 GMT -6
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Post by paddy on May 19, 2020 15:10:40 GMT -6
I have read the UIL rules many times, but admittedly have never put them in to practice (as I don't live in Texas).
However, there seems to be a decent amount of gray in there and once you tack on during the school day band, Texas bands aren't practicing terribly less than others. They just organize practice differently.
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Post by atxbandnerd on May 22, 2020 15:46:02 GMT -6
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 22, 2020 16:41:24 GMT -6
Not too unexpected really. You should see what daycare requirements are like right now! 😱 Fortunately my preschool doesn’t reopen until September but I’m already planning for crazy procedures and insane amounts of cleaning and disinfecting daily. Hopefully the next phase will lighten up considerably. And maybe by mid July we can have semi normal band camps. |
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Post by drumcorpsgeek on May 22, 2020 16:49:40 GMT -6
Not too unexpected really. You should see what daycare requirements are like right now! 😱 Fortunately my preschool doesn’t reopen until September but I’m already planning for crazy procedures and insane amounts of cleaning and disinfecting daily. Hopefully the next phase will lighten up considerably. And maybe by mid July we can have semi normal band camps. All of you down in TX are gonna get lucky. lol At least I know if it doesn't all pan out up here I can still watch some great TX bands on the weekends (hopefully)! |
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 22, 2020 18:19:31 GMT -6
Not too unexpected really. You should see what daycare requirements are like right now! 😱 Fortunately my preschool doesn’t reopen until September but I’m already planning for crazy procedures and insane amounts of cleaning and disinfecting daily. Hopefully the next phase will lighten up considerably. And maybe by mid July we can have semi normal band camps. All of you down in TX are gonna get lucky. lol At least I know if it doesn't all pan out up here I can still watch some great TX bands on the weekends (hopefully)! I sure hope so but I’m not convinced that there will be any kind of football or band competition season this year. Time will tell. |
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2020 6:14:12 GMT -6
Not a SINGLE mention of ANY limitation on the number of weekly hours that Texas folks like to quote so often. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 23, 2020 7:38:12 GMT -6
Not a SINGLE mention of ANY limitation on the number of weekly hours that Texas folks like to quote so often. Texans aren’t limited by limitations, don’t ya know? 🤠 |
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 23, 2020 8:41:32 GMT -6
Not a SINGLE mention of ANY limitation on the number of weekly hours that Texas folks like to quote so often. Hours are not and have never been limited until the end of summer. |
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2020 9:43:51 GMT -6
Not a SINGLE mention of ANY limitation on the number of weekly hours that Texas folks like to quote so often. Hours are not and have never been limited until the end of summer. THAT is information that has never been shared anywhere that I have seen. Thank you. |
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on May 23, 2020 10:02:55 GMT -6
Hours are not and have never been limited until the end of summer. THAT is information that has never been shared anywhere that I have seen. Thank you. But... districts that start earlier cause the august 1st still date to significantly cut into Former band camp times. Facilities are no longer available once teachers are required to be at the schools for in service and training the 1-2 weeks before school starts (with a start date of august 17th staff development starts aug 4th) So basically we do band camp without really doing any drill for the show. |
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 23, 2020 10:14:18 GMT -6
The June 8 start date is miss leading to those outside of Texas. If the season happens all bands will probably start when they historically have started. (Mid to late July). Leadership Camps, Freshman camps are not the same as drill assignments and drill practice. Full band rehearsals and drill start on August 1st. The 8 hour rule starts towards the end of the summer and mostly implemented when School starts. IMO UIL set these rules for uniformity and to level the playing field for all Texas Bands but their is also a liability understanding. No Band Director wants to be on the investigated side of the table should anything happen to someone’s child. Remember it easily gets to triple digits in Texas y’all!
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2020 10:16:48 GMT -6
Remember it easily gets to triple digits in Texas y’all! That's why summer sports and band practices happen at 6:00 a.m. in Southern Nevada and Arizona. Texas has the same option. |
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 23, 2020 10:23:51 GMT -6
Remember it easily gets to triple digits in Texas y’all! That's why summer sports and band practices happen at 6:00 a.m. in Southern Nevada and Arizona. Texas has the same option. Lol. I just read your comment and my 15 year old self laughed. Mostly because I was a lazy kid. I’m sure that some programs might implement 6am. It’s common for 7am pre school practices in San Antonio. |
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Post by lostchoirguy on May 23, 2020 11:16:07 GMT -6
I grew up in Texas and now currently live in the West where desert conditions make the air very dry. You cannot compare the morning conditions in Texas with morning conditions in Nevada or Arizona. Deserts cool down at night. The humid air traps heat and it stays hot all night long in Texas. Earlier start times for practice doesn't fix that. Believe me, I get annoyed sonetimes by the constant mention of the 8 hour rule also, but that isn't a good argument.
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on May 23, 2020 11:16:23 GMT -6
That's why summer sports and band practices happen at 6:00 a.m. in Southern Nevada and Arizona. Texas has the same option. Lol. I just read your comment and my 15 year old self laughed. Mostly because I was a lazy kid. I’m sure that some programs might implement 6am. It’s common for 7am pre school practices in San Antonio. I’m glad we don’t do 6am! 😊 not a morning person here. 8-noon and 4-9pm is what we do to avoid the worst of the heat in the summer. Once school starts the practice lot is covered in cars- so any drill practice only happens after school. |
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Post by paddy on May 23, 2020 11:32:21 GMT -6
The 8 hour rules doesn’t count time during the school day, you get an extra hour every time you perform (football game, public performance, competition), and it doesn’t count transit time.
What does school day band look like in most Texas schools?
Do many students have a study hall?
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 23, 2020 13:07:35 GMT -6
] What does school day band look like in most Texas schools? Do many students have a study hall? I really can’t speak to every Texas school or individual district but I can speak to what I’ve experienced at NISD these last few years. School days usually start with morning practices 7-9am (M-Thursday) Individual sections and full band practice alternating daily (430pm-7:30pm M-F). Band periods were multiple so full band practice was impossible during school hours. Usually it was working on music and individual private lesson or sometimes choreography. I did not noticed any study hall on their schedules but they did have a program called FLEX (Tuesday’s and Thursday’s 30 minutes in 2nd period). This 30 minute focus time was given to any student struggling with academics through out the year. My oldest used it to get help with any assignments he didn’t understand. We will be moving to NEISD in June (zoned Ronald Reagan) and I will be transferring my youngest. I have not had a chance to research their marching band schedules as of yet. My guess is this will be announced to the parents soon as the UIL summer band guidelines were just recently released. |
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Post by paddy on May 23, 2020 15:50:04 GMT -6
As long as we are all ok admitting that Texas bands practice marching band more than 8 hours as opposed to the current narrative.
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Post by Samuel Culper on May 23, 2020 16:00:23 GMT -6
As long as we are all ok admitting that Texas bands practice marching band more than 8 hours as opposed to the current narrative. Nobody (from Texas, anyway) ever argued that Texas bands were only allowed eight hours of practice. |
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