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Post by jeremiah on Oct 22, 2021 19:18:02 GMT -6
Is there a breakdown of what division each band is in for this Regional. Thanks.
If you want to find out what class a band is in, you can search for a group as if you are going to request director access for them on competition suite, and it lists what class they are in. If someone were willing to spend the time searching for every single band, you could put together a list of what class each band is in. |
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 22, 2021 19:31:10 GMT -6
Is there a breakdown of what division each band is in for this Regional. Thanks.
If you want to find out what class a band is in, you can search for a group as if you are going to request director access for them on competition suite, and it lists what class they are in. If someone were willing to spend the time searching for every single band, you could put together a list of what class each band is in. We can finally put a couple of things to rest. Rosemount is AAA this year, and Pickerington North is still AAA. |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 22, 2021 20:33:32 GMT -6
HSE is on the semistate schedule. There are 21 bands listed. This is a fact. HSE is listed on the official ISSMA schedule in performance slot 12. They have 21 bands listed. Apparently they decided to let them compete, despite the penalty. This is great news!!! (Also, I’m glad to see you back!) |
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Post by marchingmaniac on Oct 22, 2021 21:01:36 GMT -6
Watching Avon and Carmel back, I'd have to say Carmel is better right now. They're super clean and the guard is fantastic in everything they do. That ballad is absolutely beautiful. It's not really my cup of tea though, and I don't know why. I'm more partial to Avon in that respect, probably because Fire of Eternal Glory is one of my favorites and Avon's arrangement is spectacular.
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Post by drummerboy on Oct 22, 2021 23:01:30 GMT -6
If you want to find out what class a band is in, you can search for a group as if you are going to request director access for them on competition suite, and it lists what class they are in. If someone were willing to spend the time searching for every single band, you could put together a list of what class each band is in. We can finally put a couple of things to rest. Rosemount is AAA this year, and Pickerington North is still AAA. Not that it effects Indy Super but Blue Springs is also listed as AAA. What does effect Indy Super is Western is shown as 1A along with Edgewood. |
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 23, 2021 6:01:43 GMT -6
Good morning for Day 2! Let's have another day of amazing performances  Remember, you can also follow along on the live blog here! Myself, Seth, and Michael Reed will be giving commentary and pictures of the groups throughout the day. |
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 23, 2021 6:12:53 GMT -6
This is a fact. HSE is listed on the official ISSMA schedule in performance slot 12. They have 21 bands listed. Apparently they decided to let them compete, despite the penalty. This is great news!!! (Also, I’m glad to see you back!) I'll be in Indy tonight for Finals in my Homestead Blue. :-) |
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Post by sethb811 on Oct 23, 2021 6:24:53 GMT -6
This is great news!!! (Also, I’m glad to see you back!) I'll be in Indy tonight for Finals in my Homestead Blue. :-) I'll be sure to come give you a hug once it's all over. Have a feeling you may need it... |
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 23, 2021 6:29:22 GMT -6
I'll be in Indy tonight for Finals in my Homestead Blue. :-) I'll be sure to come give you a hug once it's all over. Have a feeling you may need it... Ha ha. I'm not sure what step "acceptance" is, but I'm already there. It's cool. |
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 23, 2021 6:39:42 GMT -6
So BOA does NOT go by DOE numbers for classification, it's based off of a questionnaire or something that the principal signs off on? One would think they would go by something more 'concrete' that could be verified. For all the transparency they have with rules and scores, it baffles me that ISSMA's classifications are more transparent than MFA since their numbers are based on published facts.
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 6:45:09 GMT -6
Owasso was really nice!! Not the potential GN-finalist group we’re used to, but they’re rebounding really nicely from their changes during the 2019 season. Loved the Adagio for Strings ballad with the flute solo soaring over. Should be in tonight, although bottom half for sure.
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 23, 2021 6:45:43 GMT -6
I'll be sure to come give you a hug once it's all over. Have a feeling you may need it... Ha ha. I'm not sure what step "acceptance" is, but I'm already there. It's cool. I'm pretty sure you've been there for a few years now.  |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 6:56:42 GMT -6
So BOA does NOT go by DOE numbers for classification, it's based off of a questionnaire or something that the principal signs off on? One would think they would go by something more 'concrete' that could be verified. For all the transparency they have with rules and scores, it baffles me that ISSMA's classifications are more transparent than MFA since their numbers are based on published facts. I get you, I really do. I assume since you’re an Edgewood guy you’re referring to Western —- unfortunately it just sort of is what it is. Ain’t the first time it’s happened. I do expect Edgewood to come out slightly ahead in this battle, but it does stink for a Forest Park/Fairfield/Lewis Cass etc who is now bumped out of a 3rd place spot. I suppose if I played devil’s advocate a bit, there’s only a difference of 53 students in grades 10-12 in Edgewood vs Western. For all intents & purposes, those are essentially the same-sized school in the giant swath of public school size across the nation. And who knows, maybe Western lost students after the point the numbers had to be finalized for the DOE and they really are A now. Who knows. I guess in BOA’s defense, there are a number of states whose centralized department of education doesn’t keep track of these numbers in any regular or meaningful way, or public way, and many states have varying deadlines for when to turn these numbers in each year, or who gets counted for funding purposes. It isn’t a linear, clear process that BOA can just easily tap into across the nation. But yea, I get you. |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 7:23:43 GMT -6
Bremen is such a great little band!! I always love how well their winds play.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 23, 2021 7:39:44 GMT -6
Anyone at LOS and able to get a peek at the draw board? I’m assuming Homestead and Castle have checked in….
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 7:49:28 GMT -6
Kettering Fairmont was nice!! Similar to Penn, they’re a big band that plays really, really well but can never seem to latch on to a show design that will catapult them to the next level or figure out how to bring their marching up to snuff with their musical prowess. I don’t think they’ll be in tonight, but crazier things have happened, and they do play well. I’ve got them landing in the upper 70s. I do see those visual scores keeping them out.
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 23, 2021 7:58:52 GMT -6
Anyone at LOS and able to get a peek at the draw board? I’m assuming Homestead and Castle have checked in….  |
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Post by Allohak on Oct 23, 2021 8:01:33 GMT -6
Anyone at LOS and able to get a peek at the draw board? I’m assuming Homestead and Castle have checked in…. Advantage Avon |
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Post by supersound on Oct 23, 2021 8:04:19 GMT -6
Rough draw for Carmel.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 23, 2021 8:10:51 GMT -6
Looks like we'd probably see Homestead, Brownsburg, and Castle all in a block, if Homestead can make it into the top 7. Would have been nice to see Fishers in the same grouping but I guess you can't have everything. |
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Post by paddy on Oct 23, 2021 8:12:48 GMT -6
So BOA does NOT go by DOE numbers for classification, it's based off of a questionnaire or something that the principal signs off on? One would think they would go by something more 'concrete' that could be verified. For all the transparency they have with rules and scores, it baffles me that ISSMA's classifications are more transparent than MFA since their numbers are based on published facts. I get you, I really do. I assume since you’re an Edgewood guy you’re referring to Western —- unfortunately it just sort of is what it is. Ain’t the first time it’s happened. I do expect Edgewood to come out slightly ahead in this battle, but it does stink for a Forest Park/Fairfield/Lewis Cass etc who is now bumped out of a 3rd place spot. I suppose if I played devil’s advocate a bit, there’s only a difference of 53 students in grades 10-12 in Edgewood vs Western. For all intents & purposes, those are essentially the same-sized school in the giant swath of public school size across the nation. And who knows, maybe Western lost students after the point the numbers had to be finalized for the DOE and they really are A now. Who knows. I guess in BOA’s defense, there are a number of states whose centralized department of education doesn’t keep track of these numbers in any regular or meaningful way, or public way, and many states have varying deadlines for when to turn these numbers in each year, or who gets counted for funding purposes. It isn’t a linear, clear process that BOA can just easily tap into across the nation. But yea, I get you. (I wish it was easier to snip a bit to quote…) It is possible with 2 enrollment counts in Indiana (September and February) that a school could use the February count (which is usually lower than September). I believe the DOE uses the September count for their public info site. However, when you talk about 53 kids in a 800 kid school that is still a 6.6% difference in size. Not huge but statistically significant. |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 8:14:30 GMT -6
Looks like we'd probably see Homestead, Brownsburg, and Castle all in a block, if Homestead can make it into the top 7. Would have been nice to see Fishers in the same grouping but I guess you can't have everything. Eh, Fishers will only be separated from the other three by Mason, and all 5 will be bookended by Carmel & Avon. That’s a terrific back half of finals for spectators! |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 8:19:10 GMT -6
However, when you talk about 53 kids in a 800 kid school that is still a 6.6% difference in size. Not huge but statistically significant. Fair point! |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 23, 2021 8:28:12 GMT -6
Can someone refresh my memory - is tonight bottom scores/top scores blocks or straight draw?
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Oct 23, 2021 8:31:03 GMT -6
Can someone refresh my memory - is tonight bottom scores/top scores blocks or straight draw? Top 7/Bottom 7. |
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 23, 2021 8:45:27 GMT -6
However, when you talk about 53 kids in a 800 kid school that is still a 6.6% difference in size. Not huge but statistically significant. Fair point! I see the point that all states don't report numbers the same, so I get that. Maybe it would be better if the rules stated that the class numbers were approximate, and not based on the numbers listed. Ultimately it is what it is...I'm wondering if some ISSMA bands could 'benefit' from using numbers other than what is published by the state? |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 8:56:45 GMT -6
Really, really great to see such a strong showing from Floyd Central today after a number of seasons where it felt like they couldn’t quite find their voice. I love seeing a historically significant group find their footing! I can see why they popped the numbers they did at the A South regional last weekend.
I still think Goshen has that third spot in AAA wrapped up, but Decatur, Evansville North, Munster, & Floyd have formed a tight little pack of good bands behind them.
Edited to add Evansville North to that group!
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Post by paddy on Oct 23, 2021 9:05:41 GMT -6
Really, really great to see such a strong showing from Floyd Central today after a number of seasons where it felt like they couldn’t quite find their voice. I love seeing a historically significant group find their footing! I can see why they popped the numbers they did at the A South regional last weekend. I still think Goshen has that third spot in AAA wrapped up, but Decatur, Evansville North, Munster, & Floyd have formed a tight little pack of good bands behind them. Edited to add Evansville North to that group! I’ve got Munster in AA based on public enrollment numbers. Concord will be on the edge of AA and AAA. |
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 23, 2021 9:11:53 GMT -6
Really, really great to see such a strong showing from Floyd Central today after a number of seasons where it felt like they couldn’t quite find their voice. I love seeing a historically significant group find their footing! I can see why they popped the numbers they did at the A South regional last weekend. I still think Goshen has that third spot in AAA wrapped up, but Decatur, Evansville North, Munster, & Floyd have formed a tight little pack of good bands behind them. Edited to add Evansville North to that group! I’ve got Munster in AA based on public enrollment numbers. Concord will be on the edge of AA and AAA. Concord is not here however. Also, want to give some love to Evansville North. Easily the best I've ever seen, or heard them. Wow wow wow! |
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Post by Jake W. on Oct 23, 2021 9:22:06 GMT -6
I’ve got Munster in AA based on public enrollment numbers. Concord will be on the edge of AA and AAA. Ah yes!!!! I think I was indeed confusing them with where Concord would’ve been numbers-wise. |
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