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Post by dbalash on Sept 21, 2021 9:13:23 GMT -6
I think people tend to underestimate Lincoln-Way since they don't attend too many BOA competitions. Based off 2018 and 2019 this should be an easy win for them I mean, their last BOA competition was the 2019 Indy Super regional where they finished 4th to Avon, Carmel, and Blue Springs, defeating Homestead (in 5th) and beating Castle by a full 4 points. So yeah, I'd think LincolnWay might be a favorite here. The only thing about that last appearance though was that it was LW's last show of the year, while the others had a few weeks to go. Harder to gauge what these groups might look like early season. I'll push my chips in on LincolnWay though. To watch Lincoln-Way from Victor J. Andrew: Skip to 4:41:50. Lake Central, Lake Park, VJA, Lockport and a ton of other great bands there as well. ETA: Just watched Lincoln-Way. This is my favorite show from them since East did "Un-Ravel" in 2011 and North did "It's Good to be Gold" in 2013.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 21, 2021 9:28:34 GMT -6
AS OF 09/01/2021
Confirmed (15): Arlington H.S., TN Bartlett H.S., TN Castle H.S., IN Central Hardin H.S., KY Collierville H.S., TN DeSoto Central H.S., MS Edwardsville H.S., IL Franklin H.S., TN Fred J. Page H.S., TN Grayson County H.S., KY Hoover H.S., AL Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL North Hardin H.S., KY Paragould H.S., AR Union City H.S., TN
PRELIMS PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE 11:30 - Arlington H.S., TN 11:45 - Edwardsville H.S., IL 12:00 - Fred J. Page H.S., TN 12:15 - Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL 12:30 - Union City H.S., TN 12:45 - Bartlett H.S., TN 1:00 - Central Hardin H.S., KY 1:15 - North Hardin H.S., KY BREAK 2:15 - Collierville H.S., TN 2:30 - Grayson County H.S., KY 2:45 - Franklin H.S., TN 3:00 - Hoover H.S., AL 3:15 - Paragould H.S., AR 3:30 - DeSoto Central H.S., MS 3:45 - Castle H.S., IN
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 21, 2021 9:34:08 GMT -6
Oh how I would love to attend this regional! So many schools from my childhood are attending. And Castle making the trip down is really special as well. Hopefully I can catch a few on Box5 during some breaks at BOA Austin this weekend.
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Post by jeremiah on Sept 21, 2021 18:41:34 GMT -6
I will be here. Planning on being down low to take pictures for the live blog in the morning and then as high and center as I can grab for finals.
Please stop by and say hello if you see me!
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Post by srv1084 on Sept 22, 2021 23:34:17 GMT -6
Having now seen a few shows, I don't see how Castle loses this one.
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Post by salvation on Sept 23, 2021 7:03:39 GMT -6
Having now seen a few shows, I don't see how Castle loses this one. Lincoln-Way.
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Post by srv1084 on Sept 23, 2021 7:05:02 GMT -6
Having now seen a few shows, I don't see how Castle loses this one. Lincoln-Way. Yes, I have taken them into account as I've seen their show as well. I would love to be pleasantly surprised but sticking with my prediction.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Sept 23, 2021 7:43:42 GMT -6
Yes, I have taken them into account as I've seen their show as well. I would love to be pleasantly surprised but sticking with my prediction. It's pretty hard to judge from YouTube videos but I was more impressed by Castle than LincolnWay, to be honest. Castle looked awfully good to my eye, and the even had a full 8+ minutes on the field. I think I'd put Castle a solid #3 in Indiana at this point, having not yet seen anything Fishers or Center Grove.
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Post by madhatter on Sept 23, 2021 8:24:40 GMT -6
Predictions and guesses aside, I would simply say this show Castle is piecing together reminds me of their 2015-2017 efforts. For the first time since then, this show highlights the strengths of Castle's music ensemble and strong soloists with some nifty drill segments. They look to have about 8:40 or so of their show ready for Clarksville. Under the capable Tom Dean and his staff, they will polish the show nicely and it may end up being my second favorite Castle show ever after 2016 Siren's Song.
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Post by Uncle Baby Billy on Sept 23, 2021 10:44:46 GMT -6
Lincoln-Way decided to go with a shorter season this year and they rarely have ever marched beyond October, so I am fully expecting that they win the Clarksville Regional. If Castle bests them this early, then take a look at Lincoln-Way and knock them down a full tier. The hype is a bit out of control at times regarding a program who has never traditionally shown very well relative to the competition post 3rd week of October. <abbr data-timestamp="1632404622000" class="o-timestamp time" title="Sept 23, 2021 9:43:42 GMT -4">23, 2021 9:43:42 GMT -4</abbr> OldSchoolTrumpet said:Yes, I have taken them into account as I've seen their show as well. I would love to be pleasantly surprised but sticking with my prediction. It's pretty hard to judge from YouTube videos but I was more impressed by Castle than LincolnWay, to be honest. Castle looked awfully good to my eye, and the even had a full 8+ minutes on the field. I think I'd put Castle a solid #3 in Indiana at this point, having not yet seen anything Fishers or Center Grove.
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Post by hostrauser on Sept 23, 2021 11:09:39 GMT -6
Lincoln-Way decided to go with a shorter season this year and they rarely have ever marched beyond October, so I am fully expecting that they win the Clarksville Regional. If Castle bests them this early, then take a look at Lincoln-Way and knock them down a full tier. The hype is a bit out of control at times regarding a program who has never traditionally shown very well relative to the competition post 3rd week of October. What? Lincoln-Way is doing five shows this year, same as every year. The "program" (combined band) is only on its 6th season. In its first season (2016) it missed Finals at BOA Indy and didn't make Semis at Grand Nationals. In its second year it made Finals at Indy. Third year (2018) they finished 4th overall at BOA St. Louis the fourth week of October. In 2019 they finished 4th overall at BOA Indy the fourth week of October. It's hard to make "traditionally" claims with only four seasons of data, but 2018 and 2019 showed that Lincoln-Way competes just fine at the end of October.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Sept 23, 2021 11:45:48 GMT -6
Lincoln-Way decided to go with a shorter season this year and they rarely have ever marched beyond October, so I am fully expecting that they win the Clarksville Regional. If Castle bests them this early, then take a look at Lincoln-Way and knock them down a full tier. The hype is a bit out of control at times regarding a program who has never traditionally shown very well relative to the competition post 3rd week of October. I have to admit, I'm not even sure I'm following what you're saying here.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 23, 2021 12:31:45 GMT -6
It’s just band.
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 23, 2021 12:47:48 GMT -6
I am also confident in Castle's chances. They have a nice look this year and with their staff I agree with the others that they will clean well. While I think Lincoln-Way does have a good track record, they aren't standing on as firm a ground IMO as they have shrunk almost every year since inception. But one never knows!
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 23, 2021 12:48:21 GMT -6
It’s just band. Yup! but the game is fun
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Post by nomorehoney on Sept 23, 2021 14:47:54 GMT -6
Haven't seen much from Franklin or North Hardin, but both Castle and Lincoln-Way look very good. I'd say it could go either way based off of the videos I've seen. I'm very excited to see how Edwardsville performs due to this being their first BOA event since 2010. Within recent years I have started to consider Edwardsville as a part of the current top 10 bands in Illinois due to what I've seen in person and their performance at state competitions.
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Post by theangrybavarian on Sept 23, 2021 15:36:32 GMT -6
Within recent years I have started to consider Edwardsville as a part of the current top 10 bands in Illinois There have been years where I would definitely agree with this. Their 2019 program was really good, and from the limited footage I've seen of them this year, they may be at that level. They have a fairly young pair of directors, and they seem to continue and exceed the already solid tradition that they've had over the past decade-plus.
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Post by jl615 on Sept 23, 2021 20:02:52 GMT -6
Predictions 1. Castle H.S., IN 2. Lincoln-Way Community H.S., IL 3. North Hardin H.S., KY 4. Franklin H.S., TN 5. DeSoto Central H.S., MS 6. Central Hardin H.S., KY 7. Hoover H.S., AL 8. Collierville H.S., TN 9. Paragould H.S., AR 10.Edwardsville H.S., IL 11.Arlington H.S., TN 12.Union City H.S., TN 13.Grayson County H.S., KY 14.Bartlett H.S., TN 15.Fred J. Page H.S., TN
Excited for a Great comp full of great bands!
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Sept 24, 2021 13:05:37 GMT -6
After watching both Lincoln-Way and Castle last night, my money's on Castle to win decisively.
Lincoln-Way is one of my favorite programs, but their show so far feels underdeveloped (which makes sense, considering it's only September). There's barely anything beyond a primary focus in the visual design; the entire music ensemble is part of one "tutti" drill form the entire show, and the guard is usually either part of that tutti texture or is somewhat of a secondary focus (and usually all in unison with each other). Aside from the costume transition, which IS a lovely surprise, I didn't perceive a bold effect plan. I never perceived a sense of "arriving" anywhere, and I think that's because I didn't perceive a sense of "going" anywhere. I trust that this show can and will blossom beautifully by the end of the season, but I'm not sure that it can claim victory in its current form.
Castle, on the other hand, seems to explore a wider range of tempo, dynamics, visual focus, and overall intensity. I don't necessarily "get" what's happening (I assume there's narration to come? Or more staging/usage of props?), but I still get a sense of an effect plan that takes us on a journey throughout the show. The ideas feel more developed and more coordinated than Lincoln-Way's at this point.
These are just my two cents. I'm curious how or if North Hardin (or any other group) can sneak their way into the top two!
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 24, 2021 13:54:23 GMT -6
Castle's show is very Byrnes 2017 (perhaps better). With all of the lights and all. Wishing all the bands the best!
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Post by mk72 on Sept 24, 2021 16:25:54 GMT -6
Any word from North Hardin or Franklin? I’ve seen maybe one vid from Franklin (which was of a run from a month ago so idk how useful it might be in making a prediction for tomorrow), but I’ve heard literally nothing about NH.
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 24, 2021 18:50:21 GMT -6
Any word from North Hardin or Franklin? I’ve seen maybe one vid from Franklin (which was of a run from a month ago so idk how useful it might be in making a prediction for tomorrow), but I’ve heard literally nothing about NH. Nope! I suspect strong performances from both though!
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Post by das88 on Sept 24, 2021 20:57:14 GMT -6
Good luck Castle! Not a big fan of the concept but they are starting out strong this season.
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Post by dbalash on Sept 24, 2021 21:36:51 GMT -6
Good luck Castle! Not a big fan of the concept but they are starting out strong this season. Nice to know I'm not the only one. 🤷
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 24, 2021 21:53:10 GMT -6
Hear ye! Hear ye! Here are my final predictions prior to seeing the shows.
1. Castle (Music/GE) 2. Lincoln-Way (Visual) 3. North Hardin 4. Franklin 5. Hoover 6. Desoto Central 7. Central Hardin 8. Paragould 9. Edwardsville 10. Bartlett 11. Union City 12. Collierville
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 24, 2021 21:55:49 GMT -6
Hear ye! Hear ye! Here are my final predictions prior to seeing the shows. 1. Castle (Music/GE) 2. Lincoln-Way (Visual) 3. North Hardin 4. Franklin 5. Hoover 6. Desoto Central 7. Central Hardin 8. Paragould 9. Edwardsville 10. Bartlett 11. Union City 12. Collierville I think everyone is advancing to finals in this show.
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 24, 2021 22:01:49 GMT -6
Hear ye! Hear ye! Here are my final predictions prior to seeing the shows. 1. Castle (Music/GE) 2. Lincoln-Way (Visual) 3. North Hardin 4. Franklin 5. Hoover 6. Desoto Central 7. Central Hardin 8. Paragould 9. Edwardsville 10. Bartlett 11. Union City 12. Collierville I think everyone is advancing to finals in this show. Well fine. Here 13. Grayson County 14. Arlington 15. Fred J. Page My group is only doing top 12 which is why I copy and pasted it that way.
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Post by Allohak on Sept 25, 2021 2:43:31 GMT -6
Hear ye! Hear ye! Here are my final predictions prior to seeing the shows. 1. Castle (Music/GE) 2. Lincoln-Way (Visual) 3. North Hardin 4. Franklin 5. Hoover 6. Desoto Central 7. Central Hardin 8. Paragould 9. Edwardsville 10. Bartlett 11. Union City 12. Collierville I think everyone is advancing to finals in this show. Nope, just 12
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Post by supersound on Sept 25, 2021 7:07:48 GMT -6
Good luck Castle! Not a big fan of the concept but they are starting out strong this season. Nice to know I'm not the only one. 🤷 Me neither but it sounds like they’ve made the show very fun so at least the students will enjoy performing it, which always adds to the performance quality regardless of theming.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 25, 2021 7:15:59 GMT -6
I think everyone is advancing to finals in this show. Nope, just 12 Interesting…
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