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Jan 22, 2022 10:40:32 GMT -6
Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 22, 2022 10:40:32 GMT -6
Money is clearly in play here. - UIL saw the positive financial effect (to them) of having all classes compete at the State level in 2021. - Individual schools or ISDs will have different opinions about this based at least in part on the financial impact of trying to compete at State annually. For some, it will be clear that the numbers don't work. For others, it will be more of a cost/benefit analysis. What is the educational value in doing it annually vs. the added costs? I’m not sure how UIL benefits financially from this. I’ll have to look at that.
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UIL
Jan 22, 2022 10:45:45 GMT -6
Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 22, 2022 10:45:45 GMT -6
Money is clearly in play here. - UIL saw the positive financial effect (to them) of having all classes compete at the State level in 2021. - Individual schools or ISDs will have different opinions about this based at least in part on the financial impact of trying to compete at State annually. For some, it will be clear that the numbers don't work. For others, it will be more of a cost/benefit analysis. What is the educational value in doing it annually vs. the added costs? I’m not sure how UIL benefits financially from this. I’ll have to look at that. Found it!!! www.uiltexas.org/about/financialDefinitely a money making opportunity.
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Post by principalagent on Jan 22, 2022 11:13:45 GMT -6
I’m not sure how UIL benefits financially from this. I’ll have to look at that. Found it!!! www.uiltexas.org/about/financialDefinitely a money making opportunity. From what I read, SMBC doesn’t really offer a financial benefit at all. Only a few thousand in profit in 2018 and 2019. So UIL doesn’t gain a lot from every year State.
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UIL
Jan 22, 2022 14:31:49 GMT -6
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 22, 2022 14:31:49 GMT -6
From what I read, SMBC doesn’t really offer a financial benefit at all. Only a few thousand in profit in 2018 and 2019. So UIL doesn’t gain a lot from every year State. but they could gain more by hosting every class yearly. But honestly. I don’t see it as a money grab. At least they’re surveying the band directors about it.
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UIL
Jan 22, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -6
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Post by supersound on Jan 22, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -6
State every year has been UIL’s goal for a while now. It was facilitated with COVID to go forwards with the plan.
Ever since they pushed for area every year I thought it was a matter of time before they pushed for state ever year as well.
I don’t think this’ll pass but I don’t think it’ll be as clear cut as others say. I can imagine some big BOA names voting in favor, but the vast majority of smaller schools should sway the vote to a no.
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Oct 17, 2022 12:06:16 GMT -6
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Post by band05 on Oct 17, 2022 12:06:16 GMT -6
Given the news that just broke from Texas, I’m surprised this website isn’t in flames yet
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UIL
Oct 17, 2022 12:40:24 GMT -6
Post by Samuel Culper on Oct 17, 2022 12:40:24 GMT -6
Given the news that just broke from Texas, I’m surprised this website isn’t in flames yet Share with the class, please.
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UIL
Oct 17, 2022 12:41:14 GMT -6
Post by 70sguardchick on Oct 17, 2022 12:41:14 GMT -6
Given the news that just broke from Texas, I’m surprised this website isn’t in flames yet For those of us not from the Great State, how will this affect BOA participation at Grand Nats? When is State UIL normally held?
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Post by band05 on Oct 17, 2022 12:46:41 GMT -6
Given the news that just broke from Texas, I’m surprised this website isn’t in flames yet Share with the class, please. http://instagram.com/p/Cj0sW6ILEBc Let’s hope the link works but if it didn’t: the UIL general session voted to approve all classes have state every year
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Post by allthingschaotic on Oct 17, 2022 14:33:15 GMT -6
Rest in peace in advance to all band boosters of budget-strapped state-tier programs. Can’t wait to hear from my band’s staff.
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UIL
Oct 17, 2022 14:34:01 GMT -6
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Post by cp823 on Oct 17, 2022 14:34:01 GMT -6
I don’t have any insider info, but I know that Lewisville ISD places a lot of emphasis on competing in the UIL circuit. It’s hard for me to imagine Hebron, Marcus, or even FloMo skipping state for a BOA event, even grand nationals. We shall see…
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Post by asaiah on Oct 17, 2022 17:07:58 GMT -6
So we get two huge contests every year, San Antonio Super Regional AND 6A SMBC? Amazing! Probably going to hamper Texas' bands Grand Nats attendance, but that's obviously always been an issue anyway. I say we just let ABC take turns being Grand National Champions and do our own thing down here. Nothing stopping them from fundraising for a trip to Texas if they wanna compete against us.
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UIL
Oct 17, 2022 17:39:05 GMT -6
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 17, 2022 17:39:05 GMT -6
South Carolina is one of the few east coast states with a robust state circuit that has been around for a long (mostly to benefit).
Schools districts obviously encourage bands to go to support it but it certainly isn’t that frowned upon to skip every once in a while. Not every 5A school even has a band 🤷♂️
Wando did every other year for a long time w/ Bobby. Fort Mill hasn’t been since 2018. Which means nobody in that band has even been to an SCBDA event. Carolina Forest hasn’t been for many years now.
I know UIL is a bigger deal, but I think electively skipping at times should be acceptable.
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UIL
Oct 17, 2022 18:37:37 GMT -6
Post by hewhowaits on Oct 17, 2022 18:37:37 GMT -6
Given the news that just broke from Texas, I’m surprised this website isn’t in flames yet For those of us not from the Great State, how will this affect BOA participation at Grand Nats? When is State UIL normally held? UIL State Championships happen during the week between SASR and GN. With all classes competing, there will be overlap on Thursday (if I remember 2021 dates correctly).
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Post by vidal28rdg on Oct 18, 2022 0:46:21 GMT -6
Oh god…🙄
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on Oct 19, 2022 22:05:16 GMT -6
Last year odd 1a/3a/5a were the m/T/w before boa SA, and evens 2a/4a/6a were the m/T/w after.
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on Oct 20, 2022 10:08:27 GMT -6
Last year odd 1a/3a/5a were the m/T/w before boa SA, and evens 2a/4a/6a were the m/T/w after. If they base it on the schedules they’ve been doing- Monday will have prelims for 5a/6a (depending on which week- odd/even). Tuesday will have 1a/2a prelims in the morning, 5a/6a finals in the afternoon and 1a/2a finals in the evening. Wednesday 3a/4a has prelims and finals.
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UIL
Oct 23, 2022 13:41:13 GMT -6
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Post by atxbandnerd on Oct 23, 2022 13:41:13 GMT -6
Last year, Round Rock did BOA San Antonio, State and Grand Nats. If I remember correctly, they left their props in SA and immediately left after they performed at State for Grand Nats.
In speaking with folks within UIL, lots of school principals and ISD superintendents were pushing for this change. Mostly coming from smaller, lower budget programs that would never do a BOA type of competition. I think this is GREAT for Texas!
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UIL
Oct 23, 2022 16:18:40 GMT -6
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 23, 2022 16:18:40 GMT -6
Last year, Round Rock did BOA San Antonio, State and Grand Nats. If I remember correctly, they left their props in SA and immediately left after they performed at State for Grand Nats. In speaking with folks within UIL, lots of school principals and ISD superintendents were pushing for this change. Mostly coming from smaller, lower budget programs that would never do a BOA type of competition. I think this is GREAT for Texas! More band is great for everyone.
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UIL
Nov 2, 2022 0:07:01 GMT -6
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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 2, 2022 0:07:01 GMT -6
Last year, Round Rock did BOA San Antonio, State and Grand Nats. If I remember correctly, they left their props in SA and immediately left after they performed at State for Grand Nats. In speaking with folks within UIL, lots of school principals and ISD superintendents were pushing for this change. Mostly coming from smaller, lower budget programs that would never do a BOA type of competition. I think this is GREAT for Texas! if those same school and district admins promise to provide financial support for those smaller schools, and plenty of big ones now having to plan an Area/potential trip to San Antonio EVERY YEAR now in a geographically expansive state then yes, it’ll be great for everyone! Let’s hope that comes through!
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Post by saturdaynightlights on Nov 3, 2022 0:30:28 GMT -6
UIL will probably not go towards and annual state competition for every class anytime soon, the biggest reason being travel costs for the more rural programs. Calling @oldtakesexposed
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UIL
Nov 3, 2022 12:08:26 GMT -6
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Post by abtwitch on Nov 3, 2022 12:08:26 GMT -6
UIL will probably not go towards and annual state competition for every class anytime soon, the biggest reason being travel costs for the more rural programs. Calling @oldtakesexposed Rude. But my point stands. Rural programs can't afford every year state.
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UIL
Nov 3, 2022 15:28:35 GMT -6
Post by saturdaynightlights on Nov 3, 2022 15:28:35 GMT -6
Rude. But my point stands. Rural programs can't afford every year state. I agree, and I have many opinions about this, however...
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Nov 4, 2022 15:36:15 GMT -6
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Post by hdni on Nov 4, 2022 15:36:15 GMT -6
Does anyone have any idea about how this will effect Grand National participation from 6A groups? Lots of groups seem to be on a non-UIL year rotation - will these groups start coming less often and or less predictably?
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UIL
Nov 4, 2022 16:42:30 GMT -6
Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 4, 2022 16:42:30 GMT -6
Does anyone have any idea about how this will effect Grand National participation from 6A groups? Lots of groups seem to be on a non-UIL year rotation - will these groups start coming less often and or less predictably? I imagine for some bands it will make Grand Nationals participation less common. UIL is a staple for extracurricular activities in Texas and some districts won't allow a band to miss UIL competitions for other circuits like BOA. There are some schools that I imagine this wouldn't affect Grand Nationals participation like the Woodlands or CTJ, but it may decrease the amount of bands attending Grand Nationals in the future.
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UIL
Nov 4, 2022 16:53:54 GMT -6
Post by hewhowaits on Nov 4, 2022 16:53:54 GMT -6
Does anyone have any idea about how this will effect Grand National participation from 6A groups? Lots of groups seem to be on a non-UIL year rotation - will these groups start coming less often and or less predictably? I imagine for some bands it will make Grand Nationals participation less common. UIL is a staple for extracurricular activities in Texas and some districts won't allow a band to miss UIL competitions for other circuits like BOA. There are some schools that I imagine this wouldn't affect Grand Nationals participation like the Woodlands or CTJ, but it may decrease the amount of bands attending Grand Nationals in the future. Which is a reason many of us outside of Texas are not pleased with the likelihood of every year, every class UIL championships.
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UIL
Nov 4, 2022 17:10:50 GMT -6
Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 4, 2022 17:10:50 GMT -6
I imagine for some bands it will make Grand Nationals participation less common. UIL is a staple for extracurricular activities in Texas and some districts won't allow a band to miss UIL competitions for other circuits like BOA. There are some schools that I imagine this wouldn't affect Grand Nationals participation like the Woodlands or CTJ, but it may decrease the amount of bands attending Grand Nationals in the future. Which is a reason many of us outside of Texas are not pleased with the likelihood of every year, every class UIL championships. I read somewhere that this proposal received a great deal of support from 1A-4A directors in Texas but was much more mixed among 5A and 6A directors. I'm guessing the limitations to participating in other circuits is a contributing factor to the mixed reception, as well as that it can be quite expensive and not all programs have the funds to be able to participate every year in the state circuit. It does seem inevitable that this will pass though, beginning as soon as next year.
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UIL
Nov 7, 2022 7:51:04 GMT -6
Post by hewhowaits on Nov 7, 2022 7:51:04 GMT -6
To all who are in San Antonio for the continuation of the orgy of band performances - enjoy the UIL prelims and finals. Looking forward to how the results compare to SASR.
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UIL
Nov 7, 2022 8:12:51 GMT -6
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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 7, 2022 8:12:51 GMT -6
To all who are in San Antonio for the continuation of the orgy of band performances - enjoy the UIL prelims and finals. Looking forward to how the results compare to SASR. I wouldn’t imagine *much* changing, aside from some more UIL-centric programs being boosted: Marcus imo top halfs this one with room to spare, Timber Creek should have a strong showing, Coppell will shine. Curious to see where schools like CTJ, Reagan and TWHS land tbh haha
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Post by abtwitch on Nov 7, 2022 8:47:56 GMT -6
This is the worst streaming quality I've ever seen for a band contest. Stream started late cause they couldn't get internet, video quality is 480p, atrocious multi cam with no option for high cam, stream has a 3-4 minute delay at minimum, etc.
Jesus christ UIL please go back to Box5 or FloMarching...
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