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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Mar 13, 2021 20:57:26 GMT -6
Woe be to the band that doesn't pay him for the rights though. He at least used to have the reputation of sifting through band videos on Youtube himself to find groups using his music without permission. Those bands are literally stealing from him. If someone was stealing your property, wouldn’t you go to efforts to deter them from doing so? Oh I absolutely support him protecting his works. I was just pointing out how diligent his was/is at doing it.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 13, 2021 22:38:03 GMT -6
John Mackey is not in any way picky about who performs his music on the field. If you pay the money, you can do his work. He is very open about it. He gave a great interview with Andy from Flomarching at Grand Nationals a couple years ago (I think it was the year West Salem played Wine-Dark-Sea) about why his music translates so well to the field. Woe be to the band that doesn't pay him for the rights though. He at least used to have the reputation of sifting through band videos on Youtube himself to find groups using his music without permission. Interesting. Yes he certainly has that right and should. (Although i personally would waste my time especially if its a relatively unknown band). I think most bands comply. Does BOA check that all participating bands obtain the rights to the arranged music being performed at their shows? Can’t remember...
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Post by ohioguy2 on Mar 14, 2021 6:42:56 GMT -6
Woe be to the band that doesn't pay him for the rights though. He at least used to have the reputation of sifting through band videos on Youtube himself to find groups using his music without permission. Interesting. Yes he certainly has that right and should. (Although i personally would waste my time especially if its a relatively unknown band). I think most bands comply. Does BOA check that all participating bands obtain the rights to the arranged music being performed at their shows? Can’t remember... Yes, BOA does make every band submit their list of music and prove they are copyright compliant. Unfortunately, not every circuit across the country does. I'm not sure how everyone does it, but I know John charges the same amount for arranging rights for any band, whether it's a BOA Champion level group or a group with 8 kids that constantly run into each other, so any group using his music without permission costs him the same amount of money, which is why I imagine he is pretty "equal" in how he searches for groups.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 14, 2021 16:03:13 GMT -6
Interesting. Yes he certainly has that right and should. (Although i personally would waste my time especially if its a relatively unknown band). I think most bands comply. Does BOA check that all participating bands obtain the rights to the arranged music being performed at their shows? Can’t remember... Yes, BOA does make every band submit their list of music and prove they are copyright compliant. Unfortunately, not every circuit across the country does. I'm not sure how everyone does it, but I know John charges the same amount for arranging rights for any band, whether it's a BOA Champion level group or a group with 8 kids that constantly run into each other, so any group using his music without permission costs him the same amount of money, which is why I imagine he is pretty "equal" in how he searches for groups. Thats what I thought. Fair enough for mackey
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Post by paddy on Mar 15, 2021 9:50:25 GMT -6
Interesting. Yes he certainly has that right and should. (Although i personally would waste my time especially if its a relatively unknown band). I think most bands comply. Does BOA check that all participating bands obtain the rights to the arranged music being performed at their shows? Can’t remember... Yes, BOA does make every band submit their list of music and prove they are copyright compliant. Unfortunately, not every circuit across the country does. I'm not sure how everyone does it, but I know John charges the same amount for arranging rights for any band, whether it's a BOA Champion level group or a group with 8 kids that constantly run into each other, so any group using his music without permission costs him the same amount of money, which is why I imagine he is pretty "equal" in how he searches for groups. In the 8 kids defense, I have witnessed BOA champion bands that run in to each other as well.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 15, 2021 13:26:54 GMT -6
Yes, BOA does make every band submit their list of music and prove they are copyright compliant. Unfortunately, not every circuit across the country does. I'm not sure how everyone does it, but I know John charges the same amount for arranging rights for any band, whether it's a BOA Champion level group or a group with 8 kids that constantly run into each other, so any group using his music without permission costs him the same amount of money, which is why I imagine he is pretty "equal" in how he searches for groups. In the 8 kids defense, I have witnessed BOA champion bands that run in to each other as well. Oh yes😂
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Post by dbalash on Mar 16, 2021 7:19:23 GMT -6
There was an arranger about 10-ish years ago who tried passing off Mackey's Asphalt Cocktail as an "original." Someone saw them at a show and took video and emailed Mackey about this. The arranger had to pay back his fees to the school. This arranger also had a website that had MIDI files of all of his shows - he tried passing off Sullivan/Higginbotham and Doug Thrower shows as his own as well.
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Post by srv1084 on Mar 16, 2021 16:54:21 GMT -6
There was an arranger about 10-ish years ago who tried passing off Mackey's Asphalt Cocktail as an "original." Someone saw them at a show and took video and emailed Mackey about this. The arranger had to pay back his fees to the school. This arranger also had a website that had MIDI files of all of his shows - he tried passing off Sullivan/Higginbotham and Doug Thrower shows as his own as well. I've never understood how some people think this is acceptable. There was a similar situation in the early 2000s with a band in North Carolina who competed in USSBA, where they would present their shows as "original music," but for a few years it was derivative of the work of others (Eric Whitacre, John Adams, etc). Not sure anything ever came of that but it was kind of painful to witness as multiple bands would perform essentially the same music and credit the original composers in their repertoire.
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Post by dbalash on Mar 17, 2021 14:03:34 GMT -6
Northmont, OH: "Line, Form, Color"
Granbury, TX: "What The World Needs Now"
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Post by dbalash on Mar 18, 2021 9:57:12 GMT -6
Farmington, UT: "Level Up!"
Psychopomp - Thank You Scientist Asphalt Cocktail - John Mackey Skyfall - Adele
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Post by LeanderMomma on Mar 18, 2021 15:23:40 GMT -6
I think Granbury is on to something.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 20, 2021 18:04:19 GMT -6
Lovejoy H.S., TX - "Siren" (2020 production)
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Post by bigtrombone on Mar 23, 2021 7:34:05 GMT -6
Lincoln H.S., SD - "The Queen's Gambit"
Will Feature The Music Of: Lorde (Everybody Wants To Rule The World) Hans Zimmer James Brown William Walton
2021 Competition Schedule
9/18 - Pursuit of Excellence, Marshall, MN 9/25 - Big Sioux Review - Brandon, SD 10/2 - Festival of Bands - Sioux Falls, SD 10/9 - TBD (Either BOA Cedar Falls or Youth in Music) 10/21-10/24 - BOA St. Louis Super Regional
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Post by yayband914 on Mar 29, 2021 14:01:25 GMT -6
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX — “Opposites Attract”
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Post by supersound on Mar 29, 2021 14:09:09 GMT -6
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX — “Opposites Attract” This sounds like a promising show. I love Claudia but sometimes they try a little too hard to have a big broadway style show and it hurts their performance level. The best Claudia we’ve seen is when they have simpler themes like this one, IE: Chameleon, Know Who You Are & The Forest Through The Trees Shows like The Tremendous Sea Of Love, Flashdance & The Circle Of Life were good, but you can tell they were trying to be bigger than what they were. They weren’t really playing to the students strengths and were very reliant on costuming and the like. The students weren’t ever truly the focus within these.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Mar 29, 2021 17:28:20 GMT -6
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX — “Opposites Attract” 🤔🤔🤔 Could it be like Leander’s 2018 production of Polarity? Whatever it is, it’ll be fantastic.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 29, 2021 17:55:29 GMT -6
Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX — “Opposites Attract” This sounds like a promising show. I love Claudia but sometimes they try a little too hard to have a big broadway style show and it hurts their performance level. The best Claudia we’ve seen is when they have simpler themes like this one, IE: Chameleon, Know Who You Are & The Forest Through The Trees Shows like The Tremendous Sea Of Love, Flashdance & The Circle Of Life were good, but you can tell they were trying to be bigger than what they were. They weren’t really playing to the students strengths and were very reliant on costuming and the like. The students weren’t ever truly the focus within these. I agree. They try to play too many selections and the concept gets lost because it’s so much source music of varying styles. And for whatever reason its the music pacing that suffers the most - i’m usually fine with the visual. On the other hand, Hebron for example seems to also have just about as much source music - but its paced better for whatever reason.
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Post by yayband914 on Mar 30, 2021 15:54:16 GMT -6
I agree. They try to play too many selections and the concept gets lost because it’s so much source music of varying styles. And for whatever reason its the music pacing that suffers the most - i’m usually fine with the visual. On the other hand, Hebron for example seems to also have just about as much source music - but its paced better for whatever reason. That’s because Hebron’s shows aren’t 11-13 minutes long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 As much as I enjoyed CTJ’s show in 2019, it also left me wondering every time when it would ever end.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 30, 2021 16:26:40 GMT -6
I agree. They try to play too many selections and the concept gets lost because it’s so much source music of varying styles. And for whatever reason its the music pacing that suffers the most - i’m usually fine with the visual. On the other hand, Hebron for example seems to also have just about as much source music - but its paced better for whatever reason. That’s because Hebron’s shows aren’t 11-13 minutes long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 As much as I enjoyed CTJ’s show in 2019, it also left me wondering every time when it would ever end. Same! Absolutely agree.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Mar 31, 2021 10:19:46 GMT -6
That’s because Hebron’s shows aren’t 11-13 minutes long. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 As much as I enjoyed CTJ’s show in 2019, it also left me wondering every time when it would ever end. Same! Absolutely agree. Even though I do agree that 2019’s music book was maybe overly busy it has to be said that the musicianship execution from those kids was unmatched by most at Grand Nats! (Except maybe Leander, Hebron) I believe they musically scripted to their strengths and those winds crushed it! The brass execution, intonation and power was exceptional. Those individual solos tho. 💪.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 31, 2021 11:14:36 GMT -6
Even though I do agree that 2019’s music book was maybe overly busy it has to be said that the musicianship execution from those kids was unmatched by most at Grand Nats! (Except maybe Leander, Hebron) I believe they musically scripted to their strengths and those winds crushed it! The brass execution, intonation and power was exceptional. Those individual solos tho. 💪. Of course that goes without saying. But even the best arrangers don't always get it right.
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Post by CTJBandPops on Apr 4, 2021 1:15:30 GMT -6
due to Covid-19, CTJ's 2020 show was a step back from the shows they normally do - while some programs will change up their show designs between a UIL State Year VS a BOA focused year, CTJ has always had a BOA focused show and did not tone down the show during a state year. With Covid, the props and screens were minimal in 2020 and there was a focus on Drill and they went back to their old Chameleon uniforms rather than making changes that they normally due for the uniform from the past 3 years. UIL was the only game in town in 2020 it and keep costs down and took a UIL Gold.
with 2021 being a UIL State and a Grand Nats Year for CTJ many would expect that they would go back to their ways - But as I understand it the props/screen will again be limited and the same Chameleon uniforms - there will be a big focus on drill and the concepts rocks - November will be a busy time with 7 performances in a 9 day span but it should be one hell of a ride
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Post by Marimbology on Apr 6, 2021 19:06:04 GMT -6
Vandegrift H.S.,TX—“Juliet Letters” Featuring the Music of Tchaikovsky!
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 6, 2021 20:15:24 GMT -6
Farmington, UT: "Level Up!" Psychopomp - Thank You Scientist Asphalt Cocktail - John Mackey Skyfall - Adele Not using the Vienna Teng song of the same name was a big missed opportunity.
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Post by dbalash on Apr 9, 2021 10:58:33 GMT -6
Ann Richards, TX: "The Glass Ceiling"
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 9, 2021 15:00:10 GMT -6
Ann Richards, TX: "The Glass Ceiling" Great theme for an all female band for sure!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 12, 2021 20:34:30 GMT -6
Clover H.S., SC: "Phantom"
McKinney North H.S., TX: The Giving Tree
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Post by dbalash on Apr 13, 2021 14:27:22 GMT -6
Lake Park: "Happily Ever After"
Featuring the music of: -Antonin Dvorak -Modest Mussorgsky -Charles Koechlin
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Post by dbalash on Apr 14, 2021 14:53:42 GMT -6
Plainfield North, IL: "Dimensions"
A Kaleidoscope of Mathematics - James Horner More music TBA
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 14, 2021 18:31:06 GMT -6
L.V. Berkner H.S., TX : Water Garden
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