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Post by 360s on May 5, 2021 2:02:54 GMT -6
I’m looking for an overall list of the Highest Scoring BOA shows ever, overall. Not just Grand National finals. I want a list of the highest scores at any regional or super regional ever.
Thank you!
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 6:38:52 GMT -6
I’m looking for an overall list of the Highest Scoring BOA shows ever, overall. Not just Grand National finals. I want a list of the highest scores at any regional or super regional ever. Thank you! You can go to the results area of this website and see scores for days. Might have to do some leg work but you could compile a list. www.hornrank.com/p/results.html
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Post by hewhowaits on May 5, 2021 6:41:25 GMT -6
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Post by srv1084 on May 5, 2021 7:41:13 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but apart from the 1997 Waco regional where Winston Churchill scored a 96.00, the next highest regional scores have happened from 2017-2019 at the San Antonio Regional, with the highest being Reagan with a 97.3 last year. Even more impressive considering there were two weeks left in the season.
Someone please correct this if I've missed anybody, but here are the regional scores >96:
97.300 - 2019 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.625 - 2017 Claudia Taylor Johnson (San Antonio) 96.600 - 2018 Flower Mound (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2018 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2019 Vandegrift (San Antonio) 96.050 - 2018 Hebron (San Antonio) 96.000 - 1997 Winston Churchill (Waco)
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Post by 360s on May 5, 2021 8:00:40 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but apart from the 1997 Waco regional where Winston Churchill scored a 96.00, the next highest regional scores have happened from 2017-2019 at the San Antonio Regional, with the highest being Reagan with a 97.3 last year. Even more impressive considering there were two weeks left in the season. Someone please correct this if I've missed anybody, but here are the regional scores >96: 97.300 - 2019 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.625 - 2017 Claudia Taylor Johnson (San Antonio) 96.600 - 2018 Flower Mound (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2018 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2019 Vandegrift (San Antonio) 96.050 - 2018 Hebron (San Antonio) 96.000 - 1997 Winston Churchill (Waco) Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition
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Post by srv1084 on May 5, 2021 8:05:46 GMT -6
Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition Oh darn, guess I'm just useless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 8:21:23 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but apart from the 1997 Waco regional where Winston Churchill scored a 96.00, the next highest regional scores have happened from 2017-2019 at the San Antonio Regional, with the highest being Reagan with a 97.3 last year. Even more impressive considering there were two weeks left in the season. Someone please correct this if I've missed anybody, but here are the regional scores >96: 97.300 - 2019 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.625 - 2017 Claudia Taylor Johnson (San Antonio) 96.600 - 2018 Flower Mound (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2018 Reagan (San Antonio) 96.400 - 2019 Vandegrift (San Antonio) 96.050 - 2018 Hebron (San Antonio) 96.000 - 1997 Winston Churchill (Waco) Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition Again. The information is available on the results page of this website. www.hornrank.com/p/results.html
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 8:22:02 GMT -6
Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition Oh darn, guess I'm just useless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don’t think you’re useless. 🤗
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Post by 360s on May 5, 2021 8:22:23 GMT -6
Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition Again. The information is available on the results page of this website. www.hornrank.com/p/results.htmlI don’t have time to sift through 30 years of results
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2021 8:26:29 GMT -6
I don’t have time to sift through 30 years of results But you're asking others to do it for you, then telling someone who gave you some of the information you were looking for what they provided wasn't good enough? Good grief, Charlie Brown.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 8:27:28 GMT -6
I don’t have time to sift through 30 years of results 🤔
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 11:06:02 GMT -6
Allohak reminded me that the highest score in BOA history was supposed to go to Crockett in '93, but that tragedy that we no longer speak of happened and sadly it wasn’t meant to be.
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2021 11:09:34 GMT -6
Such a shame.
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Post by bigblue2019 on May 5, 2021 11:19:09 GMT -6
I don’t have time to sift through 30 years of results 🤔 Good God how did you make it through school?? Did you tell teachers to just give you the answers, because you don't have the time to study??
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Post by stlbanddad on May 5, 2021 13:24:42 GMT -6
I’m looking for an overall list of the Highest Scoring BOA shows ever, overall. Not just Grand National finals. I want a list of the highest scores at any regional or super regional ever. Thank you! I'm not sure if what you exactly want is in this file, but it may be a short cut to you getting there. hornrank.proboards.com/attachment/download/2
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 14:09:12 GMT -6
I’m looking for an overall list of the Highest Scoring BOA shows ever, overall. Not just Grand National finals. I want a list of the highest scores at any regional or super regional ever. Thank you! I'm not sure if what you exactly want is in this file, but it may be a short cut to you getting there. hornrank.proboards.com/attachment/download/2wow that’s a ton of amazing data!
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Post by Allohak on May 5, 2021 14:19:19 GMT -6
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 5, 2021 14:49:04 GMT -6
View AttachmentDoesn't include 2019, but that's every 95.00+ score ever achieved I love you data nerds. 🤪 So what do we make of this list overall? Got any brilliant deductions to share with us other than this Hebron semi finals score being an indicator of how good “the show that didn’t win in finals” was that year? (And that it was why the top half/bottom half rule was created). Will we see a 98 in the near future?
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Post by hewhowaits on May 5, 2021 18:32:52 GMT -6
Thank you but I meant all contests including Grand Nationals this is just regular and super regionals This is a good list though for only regionals and super regionals but I’d like to see how top scores list from every single BOA competition Oh darn, guess I'm just useless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 'Bout time you figured that out!
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Post by supersound on May 5, 2021 20:55:00 GMT -6
View AttachmentDoesn't include 2019, but that's every 95.00+ score ever achieved I love you data nerds. 🤪 So what do we make of this list overall? Got any brilliant deductions to share with us other than this Hebron semi finals score being an indicator of how good “the show that didn’t win in finals” was that year? (And that it was why the top half/bottom half rule was created). Will we see a 98 in the near future? Maybe not a 98 but I don’t doubt we’ll see Hebron’s score be beaten sometime soon. It’s very interesting to note that despite the insanely high score in semifinals Hebron still scored a low 17.70 in individual visual performance. A band doesn’t have to be at the same musical level as Hebron to beat that score, they just have to be consistent in all captions and strongest in General Effect. Hebron had their best visual run of the season in semifinals and it absolutely showed in the score however they still seemingly lacked in visual despite being at their peak. With bands like Avon & Ronald Reagan climbing up the score thresholds and not having a seemingly weak caption, it’s sure that soon we will see this score broken. If Hebron had cleaned up that visual just a little bit more in 2015, it very very well could have broken a 98. A show like that is rare. We rarely see instances in history where that 98 had the potential of being reached if some changes were made.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 6, 2021 5:47:24 GMT -6
It’s very interesting to note that despite the insanely high score in semifinals Hebron still scored a low 17.70 in individual visual performance. I was at field level for that show. 17.70 may have been a bit on the generous side. Very little consistency in marching technique across the ensemble from my point of view.
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Post by supersound on May 6, 2021 6:15:53 GMT -6
It’s very interesting to note that despite the insanely high score in semifinals Hebron still scored a low 17.70 in individual visual performance. I was at field level for that show. 17.70 may have been a bit on the generous side. Very little consistency in marching technique across the ensemble from my point of view. I think overall the judges were a lot easier on Hebron during semifinals, I do think semifinals was their best visual run but that doesn’t really say much. I definitely found it surprising that they managed to take VGE.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 6, 2021 9:25:40 GMT -6
I was at field level for that show. 17.70 may have been a bit on the generous side. Very little consistency in marching technique across the ensemble from my point of view. I think overall the judges were a lot easier on Hebron during semifinals, I do think semifinals was their best visual run but that doesn’t really say much. I definitely found it surprising that they managed to take VGE. Are the judges normally easier on bands during semifinals or did Hebron just have a better run in semis? I know going first in finals was detrimental to them.
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Post by thewho on May 6, 2021 10:44:03 GMT -6
I think overall the judges were a lot easier on Hebron during semifinals, I do think semifinals was their best visual run but that doesn’t really say much. I definitely found it surprising that they managed to take VGE. Are the judges normally easier on bands during semifinals or did Hebron just have a better run in semis? I know going first in finals was detrimental to them. Semifinals tend to be looser judging overall as the judges are more focused on who gets into finals and who doesn't along with deciding class champions. It's possible that the judges scored BA and Avon (if they went earlier than Hebron, which they did IIRC) too highly in those categories, and then Hebron performed significantly better to the point that judges had to score them higher. There was a similar case of this in 2008 GN Finals where judges scored either LD Bell or Lawrence Central too high early on and then ended up giving Avon 2008 the highest recorded GN Finals score because they were that much better than both of them. (FYI to everyone, I'm not really interested in arguing whether Avon 2008 deserves to be the highest scoring GN Finals show of all time, just offering that up as an example).
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Post by supersound on May 6, 2021 10:55:05 GMT -6
Are the judges normally easier on bands during semifinals or did Hebron just have a better run in semis? I know going first in finals was detrimental to them. Semifinals tend to be looser judging overall as the judges are more focused on who gets into finals and who doesn't along with deciding class champions. It's possible that the judges scored BA and Avon (if they went earlier than Hebron, which they did IIRC) too highly in those categories, and then Hebron performed significantly better to the point that judges had to score them higher. There was a similar case of this in 2008 GN Finals where judges scored either LD Bell or Lawrence Central too high early on and then ended up giving Avon 2008 the highest recorded GN Finals score because they were that much better than both of them. (FYI to everyone, I'm not really interested in arguing whether Avon 2008 deserves to be the highest scoring GN Finals show of all time, just offering that up as an example). I think Avon’s 2008-2010’s are definitely overshadowed too much. It was definitely a good show and worthy of being in the upper-realm of scores but I do think that maybe 2010 should’ve been scored higher than 2008. I’ll also be the first to say that I don’t think Hebron would’ve won regardless If they’d performed much later, in fact I think performing after William Mason, Avon or Broken Arrow might've hurt their visual scores even more. There’s no way in any order for anyone other than Hebron to take music and MGE though. It’s worth noting that Harrison had a similar situation in 2015, scoring significantly higher in visual than music.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 6, 2021 11:54:47 GMT -6
Semifinals tend to be looser judging overall as the judges are more focused on who gets into finals and who doesn't along with deciding class champions. It's possible that the judges scored BA and Avon (if they went earlier than Hebron, which they did IIRC) too highly in those categories, and then Hebron performed significantly better to the point that judges had to score them higher. There was a similar case of this in 2008 GN Finals where judges scored either LD Bell or Lawrence Central too high early on and then ended up giving Avon 2008 the highest recorded GN Finals score because they were that much better than both of them. (FYI to everyone, I'm not really interested in arguing whether Avon 2008 deserves to be the highest scoring GN Finals show of all time, just offering that up as an example). I think Avon’s 2008-2010’s are definitely overshadowed too much. It was definitely a good show and worthy of being in the upper-realm of scores but I do think that maybe 2010 should’ve been scored higher than 2008. I’ll also be the first to say that I don’t think Hebron would’ve won regardless If they’d performed much later, in fact I think performing after William Mason, Avon or Broken Arrow might've hurt their visual scores even more. There’s no way in any order for anyone other than Hebron to take music and MGE though. It’s worth noting that Harrison had a similar situation in 2015, scoring significantly higher in visual than music. Avon 2010 was arguably that programs overall best to date IMO! Knowledgeable fans know that BOA judges and metrics music (IND & Ensemble) under an expressionistic lens and not execution (UIL) but that show was phenomenal on all categories! That was a godly group of musicians. Visual and winds (brass) output was powerful and executed beautifully. They should have been scored higher.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 6, 2021 15:10:05 GMT -6
I know I’ll upset many Texas and Indiana fans alike but the UIL music geek in me says Avon 2010 would have been the only year they could have metaled (Gold or Silver) had they hypothetically competed in the Texas State finals. Maybe not beat Marcus in music execution but definitely would given them a run for the money! Maybe even win?! Let the tar and feathering begin 😇🤣
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 6, 2021 16:46:59 GMT -6
I know I’ll upset many Texas and Indiana fans alike but the UIL music geek in me says Avon 2010 would have been the only year they could have metaled (Gold or Silver) had they hypothetically competed in the Texas State finals. Maybe not beat Marcus in music execution but definitely would given them a run for the money! Maybe even win?! Let the tar and feathering begin 😇🤣 I’ll be honest. I never knew anything about Avon until 2016 when Leander went to GN for the first time in 17 years. I have learned to really appreciate how good Avon is (and their colorguard is just INSANE), but I didn’t come on the BOA scene until my daughter’s freshman year (2013), and I really have zero opinion on what happened in 2010. 😁
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Post by hewhowaits on May 6, 2021 17:57:19 GMT -6
I know I’ll upset many Texas and Indiana fans alike but the UIL music geek in me says Avon 2010 would have been the only year they could have metaled (Gold or Silver) had they hypothetically competed in the Texas State finals. Maybe not beat Marcus in music execution but definitely would given them a run for the money! Maybe even win?! Let the tar and feathering begin 😇🤣 Hoosiers because you say only one year and Texans because you dare consider it even remotely possible?
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on May 6, 2021 18:04:29 GMT -6
I know I’ll upset many Texas and Indiana fans alike but the UIL music geek in me says Avon 2010 would have been the only year they could have metaled (Gold or Silver) had they hypothetically competed in the Texas State finals. Maybe not beat Marcus in music execution but definitely would given them a run for the money! Maybe even win?! Let the tar and feathering begin 😇🤣 Hoosiers because you say only one year and Texans because you dare consider it even remotely possible? Yep. Pre Covid hypothetical scenario. 😀
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