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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 3, 2021 20:56:53 GMT -6
I figured that we needed a place that new (or old) members could come to to ask questions. Functionality, policies, etc.
I wanted to start with a question I've been wondering for awhile now. Does anyone know how to add pictures to the forums? Because I'd love to share some stuff but the site makes it rather obtuse on how to add them and I've seen others add pictures like show announcement pics. Adding YouTube links seems easy enough. Just not pictures. Thanks for the help!
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Post by Allohak on Aug 3, 2021 21:08:17 GMT -6
To post pictures you need to be using the desktop version of the site. The image needs to be hosted, not just a .jpg or .png file. Sites like imgur and imgbb are easy to use to host a picture. On the reply/post page, there is a button which opens a dialog box where you can paste the url of the hosted image you want to include in your post
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 3, 2021 21:26:52 GMT -6
Ugg. Was hoping I didn't have to upload and then go through another site. Lame, but I guess necessary.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Aug 3, 2021 21:30:35 GMT -6
Some of the pictures I posted of show annocements I just dragged quickly the picture from the original site into the reply post and it work majority of the time. U can give that a try.
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Post by Allohak on Aug 3, 2021 21:41:18 GMT -6
Ope, statechamp1239 is right, I hadn't attempted treating as an attachment rather than as an image. Again, have to be using the desktop version of the site, but can either drag your file into the post field or use the attachment button to find the file path and upload (dragging the file in just skips having to follow the file path).
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 4, 2021 5:56:30 GMT -6
Ok I’m old school. I just save whatever image I want to use in my photos on my iPad. Switch to the desktop version of the forum and go in and “attach” them to my posts. They have to be a pretty small file doing it that way though. I wish I had someone to sit and show me how to do it the way you guys are talking about doing it.
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 4, 2021 16:10:36 GMT -6
Ok I’m old school. I just save whatever image I want to use in my photos on my iPad. Switch to the desktop version of the forum and go in and “attach” them to my posts. They have to be a pretty small file doing it that way though. I wish I had someone to sit and show me how to do it the way you guys are talking about doing it. See, I'd like to do that but have no way of attaching or uploading it directly to the post. I only see the option where I have to give a url to the image itself. But I'm going to test it out here in a little bit.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 4, 2021 16:34:47 GMT -6
When you go in desktop mode and click on the little black “reply” button, do you not see this screen?
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 4, 2021 19:02:48 GMT -6
Yes. But when I hit the image button I only get a box asking for a link basically. It's fine. I just will have to go the long ways to do it.
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 5, 2021 18:52:34 GMT -6
This is a test for me adding images... Homestead Renovations - New Art Wing (Right) and Gym (Left)
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Post by Marching Observer on Aug 5, 2021 19:14:17 GMT -6
Okay all. I figured it out. Though much trial and error. Things that didn't work: Clicking and dragging in both Chrome and Firefox. Adding image link, HTML, or BBCode into the insert function. What did work: Using the direct link in imgur. Whew...so much work but whatever. I finally got it lol. Can't adjust the image size but it is what it is! Thanks all for trying to help
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Post by LeanderMomma on Aug 5, 2021 20:16:10 GMT -6
Okay all. I figured it out. Though much trial and error. Things that didn't work: Clicking and dragging in both Chrome and Firefox. Adding image link, HTML, or BBCode into the insert function. What did work: Using the direct link in imgur. Whew...so much work but whatever. I finally got it lol. Can't adjust the image size but it is what it is! Thanks all for trying to help That’s great! I wish I could get my pictures to turn out big like that.
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Post by baritoner on Oct 16, 2022 21:22:10 GMT -6
I’m from Indiana and was wondering when results from ISSMA and BOA get posted onto Hornrank
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 17, 2022 6:08:27 GMT -6
I’m from Indiana and was wondering when results from ISSMA and BOA get posted onto Hornrank BOA results are usually posted almost as soon as they are available. ISSMA results are a different story. Those results are not as readily accessible and must be posted with care.
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Post by philodemus on Oct 17, 2022 7:39:08 GMT -6
ISSMA results are a different story. Those results are not as readily accessible and must be posted with care. Easily the strangest thing about the otherwise amazing marching band state of Indiana.
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Post by thewho on Oct 17, 2022 7:41:48 GMT -6
Jeremiah will post when he gets the time. That's all we can say about it for now.
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Post by thestraightestlegs on Oct 17, 2022 18:20:08 GMT -6
Can anyone explain exactly why ISSMA results are taboo to share?
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 17, 2022 18:31:04 GMT -6
Can anyone explain exactly why ISSMA results are taboo to share? Not an official explanation, but the smart money is on the organization not wanting people to know just how bad their judges really are.
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Post by baritoner on Oct 17, 2022 21:59:52 GMT -6
Why is BOA more GE heavy with music and visual being equal while ISSMA cares a bit less about visual and GE and more on music? And which do you guys prefer?
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Post by vidal28rdg on Oct 18, 2022 1:02:36 GMT -6
How can I personalize the label I get under my username? Instead of the “Outstanding Member” label, I think that’s the one I’m on rn, I’d rather be “Team Texas” haha
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 18, 2022 5:03:18 GMT -6
How can I personalize the label I get under my username? Instead of the “Outstanding Member” label, I think that’s the one I’m on rn, I’d rather be “Team Texas” haha You can have your request seen here by a moderator (it's done) or you can go to your user profile, click on groups, and request to be added to the group.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 18, 2022 6:52:30 GMT -6
Can anyone explain exactly why ISSMA results are taboo to share? Not an official explanation, but the smart money is on the organization not wanting people to know just how bad their judges really are. 🤣
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Post by paddy on Oct 18, 2022 6:59:03 GMT -6
Can anyone explain exactly why ISSMA results are taboo to share? Not an official explanation, but the smart money is on the organization not wanting people to know just how bad their judges really are. The crazy thing is they have lots of really good judges who are on their roster. Many judges who also judge WGI, DCI, BOA all the time.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 18, 2022 16:37:48 GMT -6
Not an official explanation, but the smart money is on the organization not wanting people to know just how bad their judges really are. The crazy thing is they have lots of really good judges who are on their roster. Many judges who also judge WGI, DCI, BOA all the time. So it's not the judges? Must be the rubric - all the more reason to hide.
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Post by philodemus on Oct 18, 2022 16:44:27 GMT -6
I’d say Indiana’s Hide the Recap Policy barely edges Texas’ We Will Dictate How Long You Rehearse for strangest marching arts rule in the country.
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Post by paddy on Oct 18, 2022 18:20:01 GMT -6
The crazy thing is they have lots of really good judges who are on their roster. Many judges who also judge WGI, DCI, BOA all the time. So it's not the judges? Must be the rubric - all the more reason to hide. The scoring weights are very BOA like with a slightly higher value on Music Performance and a slightly lower value on Music GE. I think some of it is competition timing and some of it is lack of seeding/performance schedule management. Last weekend was regionals where you had 4 sites that needed 6 judges each AND on a weekend where there were 3 BOA regionals AND a BOA Super Regional. I also get the sense that ISSMA doesn’t use a system with a strong Lead/Head Judge like BOA. That leads to weird issues like a band who won state last year was placed 10th by 1 judge in a caption. Then you throw the groups into a semi-state situation where past performance is ignored and you have a schedule heavily influenced by geography. And there is little allowance for score management and again no head judge to say “Did we get this right?”. In the last few years bands haven’t made state finals after doing well at BOA Super Regional the week before and GN the week after state. It also isn’t helped when a fair number of the directors in the state that influence ISSMA don’t believe in competitive marching band. It is really bizarre how a state that has some great bands also has makes those bands navigate a haphazard gauntlet of contests
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Post by barbaralhsbandmom on Nov 6, 2022 17:35:59 GMT -6
Not a question but a Thank You, from me. I appreciate all of you more informed people helping me understand this competitive marching band world. Sadly, my child has decided to not join UT Austin band and has decided to not get involved in DCI. With that being said her marching career is over. I am happy for her that she knows what she wants to do but sad I don't get to watch her in these amazing shows. I will say I will sneak a few shows in from time to time as I enjoyed them that much. From her Freshman year in which I HAD NO CLUE about this world to now her Senior year and really enjoying the shows I find this weekend a bitter sweet weekend. I hoped she got to march her show one last time but the BOA San Antonio Super Regionals was one tough group to compete with. I am very pleased though with where Leander HS finished their season. Thank you for all the knowledge you all have shared with me. -Barbara
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Post by boahistorybuff on Nov 7, 2022 14:56:24 GMT -6
Not a question but a Thank You, from me. I appreciate all of you more informed people helping me understand this competitive marching band world. Sadly, my child has decided to not join UT Austin band and has decided to not get involved in DCI. With that being said her marching career is over. I am happy for her that she knows what she wants to do but sad I don't get to watch her in these amazing shows. I will say I will sneak a few shows in from time to time as I enjoyed them that much. From her Freshman year in which I HAD NO CLUE about this world to now her Senior year and really enjoying the shows I find this weekend a bitter sweet weekend. I hoped she got to march her show one last time but the BOA San Antonio Super Regionals was one tough group to compete with. I am very pleased though with where Leander HS finished their season. Thank you for all the knowledge you all have shared with me. -Barbara So glad you found us all informative. Dont be a stranger. Hope you and your daughter keep attending band competitions. I cut my college marching career short because my coursework got very demanding and college band is a big time commitment in the fall semester. So it is understandable choosing not to be in college marching band.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Nov 7, 2022 21:06:49 GMT -6
Why is BOA more GE heavy with music and visual being equal while ISSMA cares a bit less about visual and GE and more on music? And which do you guys prefer? I think this question got lost in the shuffle about the top secret Indiana scores. I think it is a good question. First off to clarify, in BOA total GE is comprised of visual and music but they are not equal. Music effect is 40 points from two judges and visual effect is 20 points from one judge, so 60 percent of the total score. Music performance and visual performance are 20 points each with both captions being the average score of two judges. So what you have is 60 points towards music and 40 toward visual. I think of music and visual performance as looking more at the technical proficiency of the bands and general effect being the overall presentation of the show (does it resonate with the audience, does the music portray the intended emotion, do the visuals flow smoothly with clean transitions into each visual segment). This is of course is just a basic summary of these components. There are some competitive circuits that put a little more weight on the technical proficiency and some that put more weight on the overall general effect. Now keep in mind if a bands music performance is off tempo wise or out of tune it is also going to have some negative affect on the overall music effect. BOA has always weighted general effect a little higher. I personally like that aspect of the circuit. There are some circuits that feel more importance should be put on the technical proficiency of the band. I dont think anything is wrong with that. I also think that music effect can be a little more subjective. There are a ton of instances in BOA where those two music effect judges do not agree. Perhaps that is why they have two, thinking that a performance that impresses both judges is stronger than a performance that only resonates with one of the two. For bands that are really strong in GE in BOA, there is another factor to consider and that is the visual designer and the music arranger. We like to talk a lot about the visual designers on the forums. I think another big component is the quality of the musical arrangement. A poorly arranged music book is just going to have a harder time getting higher music effect scores. I will give a good example as to why two music effect judges are in place. I watched the San Antonio Finals and blasted it through my stereo system. Hebron's music effect was just brilliant. Everyone who commented thought the same. So did both music effect judges who put them in first. I thought Vandegrift deserved 2nd in music effect. Despite a few subtle ensemble issues, I really felt the music in that show. There were others who commented that they thought it was good, but not as good as I thought. Well we had one music effect judge that agreed with me and had them second and the other one who obviously agreed more with others on this forum and had them 4th. This is just an example of how there is a little more subjectivity in music effect. Maybe some circuits dont like that, therefore they dont want to weigh it as heavily as other circuits, like BOA.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 8, 2022 8:36:07 GMT -6
Why is BOA more GE heavy with music and visual being equal while ISSMA cares a bit less about visual and GE and more on music? And which do you guys prefer? The bigger question is why does BOA give just three judges 60% of the score (GE) and split the other 40% amongst four judges?
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