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Post by neop on Oct 31, 2021 0:41:46 GMT -6
Some notes as the day goes along: 1:50 PM: Rough go for Norton. From the two times I saw them this season, they seemed to lack the competitive power they had pre-COVID. First 2 for them since 2014. 7:05 PM: VERY surprised to see Canal Winchester get a 2. This is the second state performance in a row that I was certain they'd earned a 1 and instead earned a 2. 8:20 PM: Show was delayed right before Olentangy Liberty's performance due to venue electrical issues. Running approximately 20 minutes behind now. 9:00 PM: Franklin Heights receives their first 2 since 2002. 11:17 PM: And that's day 1 of OMEA SMBF finished. In all, 34 bands received a rating of 1, and 10 received a rating of 2. State continues tomorrow at Dayton Welcome Stadium with Chesapeake High School at 1:15 PM. Were you there or watching online? I arrived too late for Licking Valley but saw the rest in person. It rained off and on, and it was coming down heavily enough to prevent me from taking notes for Bloom-Carroll and Westerville North in the morning, for Dublin Scioto and Avon in the late afternoon, and for Canal Winchester and Westland in the early evening. Fortunately I'd seen all six bands before and could scratch down some thoughts later. All in all a very good day, and I had no serious disagreements with the judges. Lots of edge cases that might have gone a different way with different panels (there were three panels today). I would have given Superior ratings to Norton and Franklin Heights, but I can also understand the judges not doing so. In 2019, I didn't care for Canal Winchester's show but thought the judges would like it more than I did and was surprised when they got a II. This year I thought they were right on the line between I and II. If it's any consolation to Norton: in 2014, one week after they quite correctly received a II at State, they qualified for Semis in Class A at Grand Nationals and scored a 71.2, just .05 behind Alter. (Apparently they'll be Class AA this year, but that wouldn't be a score for a such a small band to sneeze at. And I think they could clean up that well in the next two weeks.) Too tired now, but tomorrow I'll try to list how I'd rank the 33 bands I saw. I watched online. The stream went fairly smoothly, though I do fear my judgement could have been clouded by a 0.5-1 second delay between the video and audio for most of the day.
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Post by neop on Oct 31, 2021 11:27:01 GMT -6
Here's the schedule for day 2 of state at Dayton.
1:15 PM Chesapeake C - I
1:30 PM Shawnee B - I
1:45 PM Newton B - II
2:00 PM Middletown AA - I
2:15 PM Walnut Hills AA - I
2:30 PM Perry AA - I
2:45 PM Springboro AA - I
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3:15 PM Deer Park B - I
3:30 PM Northwestern B - II
3:45 PM Arcanum B - I
4:00 PM Greenville A - II
4:15 PM Watkins Memorial AA - II
4:30 PM Beavercreek AA - I
BREAK
5:00 PM Belpre C - II
5:15 PM Covington C - II
5:30 PM Portsmouth West B - II
5:45 PM Hamilton Township A - II
6:00 PM Warren Local A - II
6:15 PM Chillicothe A - II
6:30 PM Licking Heights AA - I
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7:00 PM Ada C - I
7:15 PM Marion Local C - II
7:30 PM Eastern Brown C - I
7:45 PM Columbus Grove C - II
8:00 PM Ottawa-Glandorf B - II
8:15 PM Milton-Union B - I
8:30 PM Troy AA - I
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 31, 2021 23:47:37 GMT -6
Dry weather but a cold wind all day.
As is evident from the listing above, proportionately more II ratings than the day before. Even so, a couple bands got a big gift, in my opinion.
The big surprise for me was Eastern Brown. Very nice performance from them.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 3, 2021 21:13:45 GMT -6
Here's the schedule for state at Hilliard Bradley today. I'm going to update this post with ratings as they come. [...] As I mentioned, I missed the first show on Saturday, but here's how I would have ranked the other 43.* The ratings shown are what the judges determined: 1. Grove City, "The Space Between" (I) 2. Hilliard Darby, "Skygazing" (I) 3. Pickerington North, "The Bridge" (I) 4. Olentangy, "Imagination" (I) 5. Dublin Coffman, "Happy" (I) 6. Dublin Jerome, "Solo/Echo////" (I) 7. Amherst Steele, "A Taste of Spain" (I) 8. Brunswick, "Rise Together" (I) 9. North Royalton, "Perspectives" (I) 10. Teays Valley, "Downbeat" (I) 11. Medina, "Victory: A Tribute to the Greatest Generation" (I) 12. Hilliard Bradley, "Project Beethoven" (I) 13. Worthington Kilbourne, "Till Our Compass Stands Still" (I) 14. Hilliard Davidson, "In Orbit" (I) 15. Pickerington Central, "A Sousa (r)Evolultion" (I) 16. Central Crossing, "Dreamspectives" (I) 17. Thomas Worthington, "Wind" (I) 18. Bloom Carroll, "Haunted Treasure" (I) 19. Dublin Scioto, "Resplendence" (I) 20. Hoover, "Kodo" (I) 21. Avon, "Soar" (I) 22. Louisville, "Mumbai Utsava" (I) 23. Olentangy Liberty, "Black Swan" (I) 24. Marion Harding, "Movin' On Up" (I) 25. Reynoldsburg, "Angels & Demons" (I) 26. Newark, "Journey in Time" (I) 27. Franklin Heights "The Four Seasons" (II) 28. Tri-Valley, "Unboxed" (I) 29. Norton, "Please Be Seated" (II) 30. St. John's Jesuit, "Haunted" (I) 31. Lexington, "Full Gear" (I) 32. South Point, "...that go bump in the night" (I) 33. Copley, "The Hero Within" (I) 34. Dawson-Bryant, "From Darkness Into Light" (II) 35. Mentor, "Carry On (II)" 36. Westerville North, "Wild" (II) 37. Bishop Watterson, "Surge" (I) 38. Canal Winchester, "Pandora Reopened" (II) - - - - here's where I'd put the I / II divide - - - - 39. Madeira, "One" (I) 40. Westland, "Mirror Image" (II) 41. Lancaster, "An Undying Love" (II) 42. Loveland, "An 80's Adventure" (I) 43. Meigs, "Recovery" (II) 44. Licking Valley, "From the Ashes, We Will Rise" (II) *Edit: I subsequently saw the first band on video, and have incorporated the performance into the list above. Here's the schedule for day 2 of state at Dayton. [...] This is how I would have ranked the 27 shows on Sunday: 1. Beavercreek, "The Quest" (I) 2. Perry, "Phantom of the Opera" (I) 3. Licking Heights, "Queen Bee" (I) 4. Eastern Brown, "Stained Glass" (I) 5. Arcanum, "El Matador y la Rosa" (I) 6. Walnut Hills, "The Fortune of Fools" (I) 7. Springboro, "The Summit" (I) 8. Middletown, "Puppet Master" (I) 9. Covington, "Groovitude" (II) 10. Ada, "Moondance" (I) 11. Troy, "Legacy" (I) 12. Columbus Grove, "Caged In!" (I) - - - - here's where I'd put the I / II divide - - - - 13. Greenville, "Picturesque" (II) 14. Watkins Memorial, "The Purpose of You" (II) 15. Milton-Union, "In the After" (I) 16. Northwestern, "Remembrance" (II) 17. Portsmouth West, "Celebracion de Familia" (II) 18. Deer Park, "The Nightmare Before Christmas" (II) 19. Hamilton Township, "Dream Suite" (II) 20. Belpre, "Carry On" (II) 21. Ottawa-Glandorf, "Tuesday Morning in NYC" (II) 22. Warren Local, "Rise" (II) 23. Chesapeake, "Force" (I) 24. Chillicothe, "Heart of the Highlands" (II) 25. Shawnee, "Oh, the Places You'll Go" (I) 26. Newton, "Take to the Skies" (II) 27. Marion Local, "commUnity" (II)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 3, 2021 21:15:48 GMT -6
Here's the schedule for day 2 of state at Dayton. [...] 7:00 PM Ada C - I7:15 PM Marion Local C - II 7:30 PM Eastern Brown C - I 7:45 PM Columbus Grove C - II 8:00 PM Ottawa-Glandorf B - II 8:15 PM Milton-Union B - I 8:30 PM Troy AA - I I believe this is the first time that Ada received a Superior at State -- and they (just barely) deserved it.
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Post by neop on Nov 4, 2021 13:00:02 GMT -6
OMEA has posted recaps for the first two days of SMBF on the GuideBook version of the program. I can only see it on the mobile app version, though. It appears we quite nearly had a band (Marion Local) receive a III on Sunday. From my (very amateurish) opinion, I had them right above the II/III line.
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Post by neop on Nov 4, 2021 13:20:56 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, has anyone heard of (or seen) a band receiving a V? I've only seen ratings as low as IV, and that's typically only due to penalties.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Nov 4, 2021 14:37:35 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, has anyone heard of (or seen) a band receiving a V? I've only seen ratings as low as IV, and that's typically only due to penalties. It’s been awhile, but I have seen end up with a V due to penalties (earned a 4 overall and then penalties lowered it a rating).
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 4, 2021 15:01:52 GMT -6
OMEA has posted recaps for the first two days of SMBF on the GuideBook version of the program. I can only see it on the mobile app version, though. It appears we quite nearly had a band (Marion Local) receive a III on Sunday. From my (very amateurish) opinion, I had them right above the II/III line. Wow! They've never posted that information before. I wonder if it's a mistake, but I would certainly welcome it being public.
As noted above, I had Marion Local's show ("commUnity") last of the 27 bands on Sunday, and indeed I had them last of the 70 bands I saw over the weekend. While there are officially no scores at SMBF, I had them scoring 72. As ohioguy2 noted a couple weeks ago, when there are scores, the cut-off between III and II on a given judge's sheet is 70.
I've seen two overall III ratings issued at State. One was Delaware Hayes about 30 years ago, and in that case I believe they may have been penalized for trooping the stands. The other was Big Walnut six or seven years ago. I wasn't shocked by that result. I even wrote in my notes that I thought the performance was in danger of earning a III. There were a few other performances since then that I thought deserved very low II ratings but not quite a III. (And there have been no overall III ratings issued since then. Prior to that, there was one every couple years or so, I believe.) I once saw a ratings sheet for State that included some individual judges issuing IV ratings in their categories (mostly from guard judges, who seem to be the toughest in OMEA).
I've seen a very few performances in local competitions that I thought might just be low enough to deserve a IV, but I have no idea if that's what was awarded, because the only ratings that are typically announced are Superiors. (The scores og2 posted this year have been so helpful in getting a better sense of what the judges are rewarding.) I've never seen any performance live or on video that I could imagine getting a V.
As I see it, the ratings are basically set up to reflect what the average band can reasonably expected to achieve if they work hard. That's why so many scores by the end of the regular season appear to be clustered between 75 and 85. And that's why it's so rare for a band to a III at State and why so few bands earn less than a III even early in the season.
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Post by neop on Nov 4, 2021 15:16:44 GMT -6
OMEA has posted recaps for the first two days of SMBF on the GuideBook version of the program. I can only see it on the mobile app version, though. It appears we quite nearly had a band (Marion Local) receive a III on Sunday. From my (very amateurish) opinion, I had them right above the II/III line. Wow! They've never posted that information before. I wonder if it's a mistake, but I would certainly welcome it being public.
I would particularly enjoy if OMEA continued to do this at state, but I would VERY much appreciate them releasing recaps for each show. It's something I've been wanting to see for a while.
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Post by neop on Nov 4, 2021 15:29:30 GMT -6
Something else I wish of OMEA is that they wouldn't let their history be seemingly (mostly) lost to time. I have been searching for recordings of my alma mater (Amherst Steele) from before 2010 for a while, and I know that some these performances were recorded at SMBF (I've seen DVD order forms from these years), but the actual recordings cannot be found anywhere.
I wonder if OMEA has them (and just does not release them) or if they have been long since deleted. The current OMEA network has performances from 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 uploaded. I wrote to them asking if they planned on adding recordings from before 2015, and the answer was no.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 4, 2021 15:53:31 GMT -6
Something else I wish of OMEA is that they wouldn't let their history be seemingly (mostly) lost to time. I have been searching for recordings of my alma mater (Amherst Steele) from before 2010 for a while, and I know that some these performances were recorded at SMBF (I've seen DVD order forms from these years), but the actual recordings cannot be found anywhere. I wonder if OMEA has them (and just does not release them) or if they have been long since deleted. The current OMEA network has performances from 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 uploaded. I wrote to them asking if they planned on adding recordings from before 2015, and the answer was no. There was a big copyright controversy in 2013-14 that temporarily put an end to videorecording in all circuits, including DCI, DCA, and BOA. A company called Tresona, which was launched about 12 years ago by or in collaboration with music publishers, seems to have threatened various circuits with lawsuits for selling video products and video streams in a way that exceeded what the original licensing permitted. That eventually resulted in those circuits shutting down their video services -- sometimes to eventually return in a much more limited form with, it would seem, Tresona getting a bigger cut. In the case of OMEA, who had sold videos to parents on site for decades and who had just started to offer a streaming service, everything went away. Starting in 2017 or 2018, OMEA announced that it was partnering with the Spin Network, which I believe is actually an arm of Tresona, to allow its member bands, for a fee, to post their SMBF performances for streaming. I signed up for that for a year, when it had a couple years of OMEA videos (plus a number from other circuits), but apparently that went away during the pandemic. What OMEA is now offering appears to be operated through a platform run by the Spin Network, but it's now specific to just that circuit.
I may be misunderstanding a number of points here and welcome correction. But I absolutely agree with you that it's a *&^$#@ shame that so many historical performances are lost. Greed wins again.
Edited to add: Tresona did suffer a satisfying blow, albeit under narrow circumstances, when a California high school glee club successfully got a Tresona lawsuit dismissed and also was awarded attorneys' fees in 2020 by a federal appeals court. In part the case turned on Tresona claiming song rights it didn't have.
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Post by neop on Nov 4, 2021 15:59:50 GMT -6
Something else I wish of OMEA is that they wouldn't let their history be seemingly (mostly) lost to time. I have been searching for recordings of my alma mater (Amherst Steele) from before 2010 for a while, and I know that some these performances were recorded at SMBF (I've seen DVD order forms from these years), but the actual recordings cannot be found anywhere. I wonder if OMEA has them (and just does not release them) or if they have been long since deleted. The current OMEA network has performances from 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 uploaded. I wrote to them asking if they planned on adding recordings from before 2015, and the answer was no. There was a big copyright controversy in 2013-14 that temporarily put an end to videorecording in all circuits, including DCI, DCA, and BOA. A company called Tresona, which was launched about 12 years ago by or in collaboration with music publishers, seems to have threatened various circuits with lawsuits for selling video products and video streams in a way that exceeded what the original licensing permitted. That eventually resulted in those circuits shutting down their video services -- sometimes to eventually return in a much more limited form with, it would seem, Tresona getting a bigger cut. In the case of OMEA, who had sold videos to parents on site for decades and who had just started to offer a streaming service, everything went away. Starting in 2017 or 2018, OMEA announced that it was partnering with the Spin Network, which I believe is actually an arm of Tresona, to allow its member bands, for a fee, to post their SMBF performances for streaming. I signed up for that for a year, when it had a couple years of OMEA videos (plus a number from other circuits), but apparently that went away during the pandemic. What OMEA is now offering appears to be operated through a platform run by the Spin Network, but it's now specific to just that circuit. I may be misunderstanding a number of points here and welcome correction. But I absolutely agree with you that it's a *&^$#@ shame that so many historical performances are lost. Greed wins again. Edited to add: Tresona did suffer a satisfying blow, albeit under narrow circumstances, when a California high school glee club successfully got a Tresona lawsuit dismissed and also was awarded attorneys' fees by a federal appeals court. In part the case turned on Tresona claiming song rights it didn't have.
I still wonder if OMEA just has the old DVDs sitting around somewhere, though, or if they were destroyed.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 4, 2021 16:40:17 GMT -6
In the case of OMEA, who had sold videos to parents on site for decades and who had just started to offer a streaming service, everything went away. Starting in 2017 or 2018, OMEA announced that it was partnering with the Spin Network, which I believe is actually an arm of Tresona, to allow its member bands, for a fee, to post their SMBF performances for streaming. I signed up for that for a year, when it had a couple years of OMEA videos (plus a number from other circuits), but apparently that went away during the pandemic. What OMEA is now offering appears to be operated through a platform run by the Spin Network, but it's now specific to just that circuit.
I still wonder if OMEA just has the old DVDs sitting around somewhere, though, or if they were destroyed. As a farewell present to my retiring former band director in 2010, the band boosters purchased and edited together all the band's finals performances from his 25 years there. I would pay dearly for a copy of that compilation, poor as I imagine some of the performances I myself was part of (which I haven't seen since I was in high school in the 1980s) would now appear to me.
It would be wonderful if OMEA was given a copy of each video and has them safely in storage, but I doubt it.
What's more, Youtube isn't forever, not even for old videos that copyright holders ignore. About eight years ago, someone posted videos of Newton's late 1980s shows there. The video quality wasn't the best, but it was more than good enough to show why they did so well in that period. The 1986 show in particular, with the dance steps in "I'm Looking Over a Four-Leaf Clover" and the amazing trumpet solo in "Carnival of Venice," made it clear why a school with fewer than 200 students was competing in the top category. But the videos are all gone because the person who posted them apparently shut down his account. And I never thought to copy them from Youtube.
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Post by neop on Nov 5, 2021 11:32:00 GMT -6
I still wonder if OMEA just has the old DVDs sitting around somewhere, though, or if they were destroyed. It would be wonderful if OMEA was given a copy of each video and has them safely in storage, but I doubt it. I wrote to them today about this, and it seems that they only have copies of DVDs from 2012 and onward. Or, at the very least, that's what they'd be willing to distribute.
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2021 10:20:31 GMT -6
Here's the schedule for state today at Medina.
12:15 PM Black River C - I
12:30 PM Perkins B - II
12:45 PM John Glenn B - I
1:00 PM Crestwood A - I
1:15 PM Cloverleaf A - I
1:30 PM New Philadelphia A - I
1:45 PM Berne Union A - I
BREAK
2:15 PM Wellington C - I
2:30 PM Highland B - II
2:45 PM Ridgewood B - I
3:00 PM St. Edward A - I
3:15 PM Revere A - I
3:30 PM Delaware Hayes AA - I
BREAK
4:00 PM Big Walnut A - II
4:15 PM Rossford B - I
4:30 PM River View B - II
4:45 PM St. Clairsville B - I
5:00 PM Willoughby South A - I
5:15 PM Nordonia AA - I
BREAK
5:45 PM Buckeye B - I
6:00 PM Indian Valley B - II
6:15 PM Cambridge B - II
6:30 PM Van Buren B - I
6:45 PM Coventry B - II
7:00 PM Westerville South AA - I
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2021 16:37:28 GMT -6
A couple rough shows in a row near the start of the last block. I don't expect either to get a III, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it was close when the recaps come out.
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2021 19:24:36 GMT -6
OMEA has posted recaps for the first two days of SMBF on the GuideBook version of the program. I can only see it on the mobile app version, though. It appears we quite nearly had a band (Marion Local) receive a III on Sunday. From my (very amateurish) opinion, I had them right above the II/III line. As noted above, I had Marion Local's show ("commUnity") last of the 27 bands on Sunday, and indeed I had them last of the 70 bands I saw over the weekend. While there are officially no scores at SMBF, I had them scoring 72. I'd love to know how you'd score all of the bands at state this year if you'd be willing to share sometime!
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Post by ohbandfan on Nov 6, 2021 19:37:50 GMT -6
Anyone have results of MSBA championships?
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Post by buckeyebandfan on Nov 6, 2021 20:51:13 GMT -6
Anyone have results of MSBA championships? All I have seen is that Bellbrook was second in AAA, and Miamisburg second in AAAA. I’ve been searching for more info, too.
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Post by ohbandfan on Nov 6, 2021 20:56:04 GMT -6
Anyone have results of MSBA championships? All I have seen is that Bellbrook was second in AAA, and Miamisburg second in AAAA. I’ve been searching for more info, too. I keep checking the website for recaps. I assume mason won 5A but I want to see how everyone else did too lol
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 6, 2021 20:58:48 GMT -6
As noted above, I had Marion Local's show ("commUnity") last of the 27 bands on Sunday, and indeed I had them last of the 70 bands I saw over the weekend. While there are officially no scores at SMBF, I had them scoring 72. I'd love to know how you'd score all of the bands at state this year if you'd be willing to share sometime! Once I've seen all the bands, plus those at G.N., I hope to do that. I will note that I had no bands as close to a III today as last week.
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Post by neop on Nov 6, 2021 21:21:01 GMT -6
Anyone have results of MSBA championships? I know Kings won 4A
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 7, 2021 0:01:08 GMT -6
I'd love to know how you'd score all of the bands at state this year if you'd be willing to share sometime! Once I've seen all the bands, plus those at G.N., I hope to do that. I will note that I had no bands as close to a III today as last week. And now I've been reliably told that even the band I had last today was indeed ahead (i.e., fewer points in the sum of the ratings) of the band I had last a week ago.
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Post by ohbandmom on Nov 7, 2021 9:06:35 GMT -6
Mason won 5A MSBA last night. If memory serves score was 90.2. 5A results: 1. Mason 2. Miamisburg 3. Forest Park 4. Fairfield 5. West Claremont
Mason won Music, Visual, GE and Miamisburg won Color Guard
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 7, 2021 9:10:19 GMT -6
Mason won 5A MSBA last night. If memory serves score was 90.2. 5A results: 1. Mason 2. Miamisburg 3. Forest Park 4. Fairfield 5. West Claremont Mason won Music, Visual, GE and Miamisburg won Color Guard That would be Forest Hills.
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Post by ohbandmom on Nov 7, 2021 9:17:13 GMT -6
Mason won 5A MSBA last night. If memory serves score was 90.2. 5A results: 1. Mason 2. Miamisburg 3. Forest Hills 4. Fairfield 5. West Claremont Mason won Music, Visual, GE and Miamisburg won Color Guard That would be Forest Hills. Yes sorry that’s what I meant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 9:29:17 GMT -6
MSBA 1A Finals - Kentucky heavy this year!
1. Archbishop Alter (79.8, Mus/Vis/GE/Perc) 2. Owensboro Catholic (75.5, Aux) 3. Williamstown (71.25) 4. Cumberland County (69.5) 4. Indian Hill (69.5) 6. Hart County (68.5) 7. Pleasure Ridge Park (65.8) 8. Mason County (65.4) 9. Grove City Christian (62.2) 10. Highlands (60)
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 7, 2021 10:58:51 GMT -6
MSBA 1A Finals - Kentucky heavy this year! 1. Archbishop Alter (79.8, Mus/Vis/GE/Perc) 2. Owensboro Catholic (75.5, Aux) 3. Williamstown (71.25) 4. Cumberland County (69.5) 4. Indian Hill (69.5) 6. Hart County (68.5) 7. Pleasure Ridge Park (65.8) 8. Mason County (65.4) 9. Grove City Christian (62.2) 10. Highlands (60) Not unusual for small band MSBA classes to be dominated by Kentucky schools.
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Post by neop on Nov 7, 2021 12:22:00 GMT -6
Is OMEA State continuing as scheduled today, or has there been a delay? The livestream has yet to become available and I fear they forgot to turn the camera on, hahahaha
EDIT: Current message displayed on the site:
"We are sorry about the delay - we have had technical issues and are working to resolve them. All videos will be uploaded within 72 hours."
EDIT 2:
Stream is now working. Unfortunately, Lynchburg-Clay, London, and the first half of Rock Hill were missed.
EDIT 3:
...Nevermind, stream disappeared after Rock Hill finished performing. I believe we're missing the start of Clinton-Massie's performance now.
EDIT 4:
Stream returns at the very end of Clinton-Massie's show.
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