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Post by jeremiah on Nov 14, 2021 14:55:28 GMT -6
Note: number of regionals going from 18 to 24 and 7 "new" locations are listed. To make the math work, an existing regional must go away. New Jersey as the new Mid-Atlantic? Or Kentucky as a replacement for one of the three early-season Ohio shows? My first thought was Clarksville -> Louisville, which happens every year or two depending on football schedules.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 14, 2021 15:41:34 GMT -6
I took it as 24 regionals, 3 supers and GN. The way it was worded made the supers sound separate from the regionals, to me. The math works out to keep all the regionals this season and add the new ones mentioned. Check your math. 6 more regionals and 7 "new" locations - one existing regional location has to disappear. The 3 SRs and GN have no impact ad those don't change. Oops. I missed Washington D.C. In any case, I think we’ll be seeing 28 total BOA events next year, assuming none of them are cancelled. 🙃 I would imagine Kentucky is replacing either Clarksville or one of the Ohio regionals, as has already been mentioned.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 14, 2021 18:54:09 GMT -6
Note: number of regionals going from 18 to 24 and 7 "new" locations are listed. To make the math work, an existing regional must go away. New Jersey as the new Mid-Atlantic? Or Kentucky as a replacement for one of the three early-season Ohio shows? My first thought was Clarksville -> Louisville, which happens every year or two depending on football schedules. Another solid possibility.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Nov 16, 2021 13:47:54 GMT -6
I would dearly love to see a California regional not too far away from Sacramento or San Francisco! Those are the airports closest to my daughter in Cali. 😍
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Post by lostchoirguy on Nov 16, 2021 18:41:52 GMT -6
I really hope the new DFW regional will help get some more of the fantastic small bands in North Texas involved in BOA. And also give some of the strong Dallas area bands that don't often attend in Bedford a chance to shine.
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Post by supersound on Nov 16, 2021 22:56:04 GMT -6
I think it’s time SA gets their own regular season regional. Put something up at Heroes Stadium in Judson or anywhere nearby. It might draw some bands away from Austin but there’s certainly a demand for a regular SA regional I think. It’s overdue.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 16, 2021 23:41:12 GMT -6
I think it’s time SA gets their own regular season regional. Put something up at Heroes Stadium in Judson or anywhere nearby. It might draw some bands away from Austin but there’s certainly a demand for a regular SA regional I think. It’s overdue. And take away from San Antonio attendance? Many of the smaller schools that attend SA may opt for the smaller regional due to cost and an easier competition. It might strip SA of its Super Regional status. You might as well do SA I & II like they’re doing now with Dallas and Houston.
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Post by supersound on Nov 16, 2021 23:58:09 GMT -6
I think it’s time SA gets their own regular season regional. Put something up at Heroes Stadium in Judson or anywhere nearby. It might draw some bands away from Austin but there’s certainly a demand for a regular SA regional I think. It’s overdue. And take away from San Antonio attendance? Many of the smaller schools that attend SA may opt for the smaller regional due to cost and an easier competition. It might strip SA of its Super Regional status. You might as well do SA I & II like they’re doing now with Dallas and Houston. This is definitely a strangely pressed reaction to the suggestion. Don’t think it’d take away from SA attendance, if schools opt for the smaller regional due to cost that’s fine but I doubt it’d be a large enough number to make a difference.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 17, 2021 0:12:32 GMT -6
And take away from San Antonio attendance? Many of the smaller schools that attend SA may opt for the smaller regional due to cost and an easier competition. It might strip SA of its Super Regional status. You might as well do SA I & II like they’re doing now with Dallas and Houston. This is definitely a strangely pressed reaction to the suggestion. Don’t think it’d take away from SA attendance, if schools opt for the smaller regional due to cost that’s fine but I doubt it’d be a large enough number to make a difference. I didn’t realize I was coming across as “pressed,” just making conversation. Is disagreeing and presenting an alternative viewpoint considered being pressed this days?
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 17, 2021 7:27:55 GMT -6
I think it’s time SA gets their own regular season regional. Put something up at Heroes Stadium in Judson or anywhere nearby. It might draw some bands away from Austin but there’s certainly a demand for a regular SA regional I think. It’s overdue. And take away from San Antonio attendance? Many of the smaller schools that attend SA may opt for the smaller regional due to cost and an easier competition. It might strip SA of its Super Regional status. You might as well do SA I & II like they’re doing now with Dallas and Houston. I think the number of bands that would opt out of SASR to do just the smaller event would be small (and certainly nowhere near large enough to remove the Super Regional designation). Some of those bands who only attend the SASR are more likely to attend a second BOA event if the travel is minimal, IMO. A positive experience at the regular Regional might even encourage some more local bands to join the SASR in future years.
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Post by principalagent on Nov 17, 2021 8:35:15 GMT -6
I think a South Austin regional, maybe at Texas State, makes a lot of sense. You get something a little further south and move some of the headliners from BOA Austin (like CTJ or Bowie or Westlake) down there to make getting into either Regional Finals much easier.
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Post by dog885 on Nov 17, 2021 11:05:01 GMT -6
I've always thought of a San Antonio Regional and how it might work. I don't really think it'll take that much away from the Super because SA area bands aren't an overwhelming majority in terms of participation. It'll give some of the smaller programs a good opportunity and even if some of them choose a Regional over a Super Regional, I'm sure there's still a massive waitlist for the SA Super Regional
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Post by abtwitch on Nov 17, 2021 14:38:42 GMT -6
An early season South Austin/SA regional I think would be very successful, it would likely make Austin more dynamic year to year with the finalists and give an opportunity of some of the bands south of Austin to shine a bit more with less travel time (i.e. Hays, Johnson, Smithson Valley, Steele, New Braunfels, Northside ISD schools, etc.). Not to mention the ambitious programs that would likely attend both regionals to keep things interesting all around.
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Post by yayband914 on Nov 17, 2021 14:39:54 GMT -6
I love everyone’s input! One of the reasons why I love these forums.
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Post by Allohak on Nov 17, 2021 14:50:00 GMT -6
*checks watch
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Post by Samuel Culper on Nov 17, 2021 15:32:50 GMT -6
I'll offer a slightly dissenting opinion on further expanding the BOA schedule... at least is areas of Texas where there are already Regionals accessible. Every time BOA expands their schedule in the Texas triangle (DFW, Houston, SA and Austin) they will make it that much harder for other contests to continue to thrive. Many bands depend on those local contests as major fundraisers for their programs.
I enjoy the high level of competition at BOA contests - especially in Texas - as much as the next guy. But I also enjoy the local contests and enjoy supporting the programs that they mean so much to.
Just my $.02.
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Post by supersound on Nov 17, 2021 16:16:43 GMT -6
I'll offer a slightly dissenting opinion on further expanding the BOA schedule... at least is areas of Texas where there are already Regionals accessible. Every time BOA expands their schedule in the Texas triangle (DFW, Houston, SA and Austin) they will make it that much harder for other contests to continue to thrive. Many bands depend on those local contests as major fundraisers for their programs. I enjoy the high level of competition at BOA contests - especially in Texas - as much as the next guy. But I also enjoy the local contests and enjoy supporting the programs that they mean so much to. Just my $.02. I agree with this but I don’t think adding a BOA contest hurts local contests too much. Some SA bands still don’t go to the Austin regional but wait a week to make the trip to Austin to go to Vista Ridges festival or the TMC. I don’t think local contests receive much coverage but they’re still holding up even with BOA in their backyard. Also completely off topic I’d say that the newfound competitiveness of the TMC will/and is going to give rise to yet another local Austin contest as an alternative. The Cap City Classic comes to mind.
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Post by abtwitch on Nov 17, 2021 18:28:54 GMT -6
I'll offer a slightly dissenting opinion on further expanding the BOA schedule... at least is areas of Texas where there are already Regionals accessible. Every time BOA expands their schedule in the Texas triangle (DFW, Houston, SA and Austin) they will make it that much harder for other contests to continue to thrive. Many bands depend on those local contests as major fundraisers for their programs. I enjoy the high level of competition at BOA contests - especially in Texas - as much as the next guy. But I also enjoy the local contests and enjoy supporting the programs that they mean so much to. Just my $.02. I'd argue the contrary to an extent, more BOA regionals means less of the top bands going to local contests just to sweep them. Smaller programs that usually get overlooked winning a contest is a HUGE morale booster and the more bands that get their chance in the spotlight, the healthier the activity is in my opinion. It does hurt overall enrollment for local contests, but you still see strong attendance from local programs. As long as you're running the contest well and bands want to come back, they will come back. Just look at TMC, Vista Ridge, Duncanville, and Lone Star for just a few examples of local contests that still get a lot of programs in attendance.
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Post by thewho on Nov 17, 2021 18:45:21 GMT -6
I'll offer a slightly dissenting opinion on further expanding the BOA schedule... at least is areas of Texas where there are already Regionals accessible. Every time BOA expands their schedule in the Texas triangle (DFW, Houston, SA and Austin) they will make it that much harder for other contests to continue to thrive. Many bands depend on those local contests as major fundraisers for their programs. I enjoy the high level of competition at BOA contests - especially in Texas - as much as the next guy. But I also enjoy the local contests and enjoy supporting the programs that they mean so much to. Just my $.02. I agree to a very slight degree. The thing is, Texas is really bloody huge. There is a ridiculous (and I mean ridiculous) amount of demand for regionals. You know the extent of the amount of competing bands in Texas better than I do, but I would imagine the traditional contests would still fill up, whether it would be from the traditional giants or newcomers. In addition, there's only so many BOA regionals that a band would want to do in a season (unless you're Carmel). A lot of these regionals would be seeing newer faces versus the giants.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 17, 2021 19:33:49 GMT -6
give me a southeastern super regional or give me death I think we’re out of luck . The Mercedes Dome was so nice in 2017, really elegant and comfortable. I’m not counting on it ever coming back
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 17, 2021 19:34:37 GMT -6
Curious to see if the North Carolina Regional returns to Winston-Salem, or if they try to go somewhere in the Charlotte Area. I would love to see the Kentucky Regional held in Lexington. Charlotte would make the most sense, but Wake Forest is great too.
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Post by ilikeguard on Nov 17, 2021 19:35:03 GMT -6
Would it be possible for BOA to somehow partner with local competitions? Add them to their calendar as an “official” BOA event, but leave the organizing and fundraising up to the host school. The school gets exposure from being listed on the calendar and the increased online traffic, gets posted about on the MFA social media, and possibly draws in more attendees, while MFA doesn’t have to put all the work into organizing and staffing the event. Of course I have very little grasp on how organizing contests actually works so this could be completely impossible, but it’s an idea.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 17, 2021 19:37:34 GMT -6
I’m usually a downer on NJ bands just because the schools simply don’t have the numbers that many others schools have in other parts of the country. However, optimistic shane here would love to see a new jersey band breakout into something special. They just established a New Jersey state championship so hopefully this will help even further
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Post by thewho on Nov 17, 2021 19:39:55 GMT -6
Would it be possible for BOA to somehow partner with local competitions? Add them to their calendar as an “official” BOA event, but leave the organizing and fundraising up to the host school. The school gets exposure from being listed on the calendar and the increased online traffic, gets posted about on the MFA social media, and possibly draws in more attendees, while MFA doesn’t have to put all the work into organizing and staffing the event. Of course I have very little grasp on how organizing contests actually works so this could be completely impossible, but it’s an idea. BOA partnered with Lake Hamilton in 2020 if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 18, 2021 6:21:29 GMT -6
Would it be possible for BOA to somehow partner with local competitions? Add them to their calendar as an “official” BOA event, but leave the organizing and fundraising up to the host school. The school gets exposure from being listed on the calendar and the increased online traffic, gets posted about on the MFA social media, and possibly draws in more attendees, while MFA doesn’t have to put all the work into organizing and staffing the event. Of course I have very little grasp on how organizing contests actually works so this could be completely impossible, but it’s an idea. BOA partnered with Lake Hamilton in 2020 if I'm not mistaken. From the MFA events pages: "The Power Band Classic is a Music for All Affiliate Marching Band Event." This event was held on October 9, 2021. I recall it being scheduled last year and feel like it was included as an affiliate event in the 2019 schedule.
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Post by thewho on Nov 18, 2021 6:34:24 GMT -6
BOA partnered with Lake Hamilton in 2020 if I'm not mistaken. From the MFA events pages: "The Power Band Classic is a Music for All Affiliate Marching Band Event." This event was held on October 9, 2021. I recall it being scheduled last year and feel like it was included as an affiliate event in the 2019 schedule. Thanks for the correction. I couldn't remember what year it was and just went with the likely candidate.
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Post by notinband on Nov 18, 2021 8:06:39 GMT -6
Getting caught up with the conversation here…
For Illinois bands, I hope we do not have the same situation as 2021 where ISU, U of I, St. Louis and Indianapolis Super Regionals are on the same weekend.
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Post by hostrauser on Nov 18, 2021 10:01:20 GMT -6
Getting caught up with the conversation here… For Illinois bands, I hope we do not have the same situation as 2021 where ISU, U of I, St. Louis and Indianapolis Super Regionals are on the same weekend. Hopefully not, but there's probably going to be SOME overlap: Illinois will be on 10/15, 10/22, or 10/29. The Illini have road games or open dates three weeks in a row. Illinois State has road games on 10/8, 10/22, and 10/29. ISU will be on one of those dates. BOA St. Louis will probably be on 10/15. BOA Indianapolis will definitely be on 10/22. At the very least, it's looking good that St. Louis and ISU will be on different weekends.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Nov 18, 2021 10:12:55 GMT -6
Getting caught up with the conversation here… For Illinois bands, I hope we do not have the same situation as 2021 where ISU, U of I, St. Louis and Indianapolis Super Regionals are on the same weekend. Hopefully not, but there's probably going to be SOME overlap: Illinois will be on 10/15, 10/22, or 10/29. The Illini have road games or open dates three weeks in a row. Illinois State has road games on 10/8, 10/22, and 10/29. ISU will be on one of those dates. BOA St. Louis will probably be on 10/15. BOA Indianapolis will definitely be on 10/22. At the very least, it's looking good that St. Louis and ISU will be on different weekends. I thought BOA St Louis was already a definite for the 14/15th?
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Post by LeanderMomma on Nov 18, 2021 10:22:51 GMT -6
Ok so I am definitely looking forward to the announcement of the full fall schedule so I can make my travel plans, but I have also learned a few things this season. Here are some of those things:
1) I’m getting too old to drive 10 hours back and forth to other states every weekend for nearly two months straight. 🥺 2) I need to scale my in person schedule back a LITTLE bit so that I can enjoy the events more. 3) I need to go back to DFW for a BOA Regional. 4) I need to make it a priority to attend Bentonville football games next fall. 5) I still love band as much as I ever did, if not more. 6) I love living in NW Arkansas now because I’m so centrally located and I’m able to attend a more diverse amount of competitions. 7) See #1.
I’m tired, y’all! 🤪
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