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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 22, 2022 18:26:54 GMT -6
NOT ATTENDING: Pickerington North H.S., OH Word from someone affiliated with the program is that the Pick North program is becoming a non-competitive show band. What?!! Very disappointed to read this. As someone who has followed the OH band circuit for years, I have so many questions around this news. It almost warrants its own feed or at least revisited under an Ohio forum. To start with - Is this a trend of the future? In the past couple days, the Pickerington North band has published their 2022-23 calendar and updated their website, and I see it's now official. Last week, their website still said they competed in OMEA and BOA. Now it says the marching band "performs at PHSN football games, local festivals and band shows, and both national and community parades and events. The goal of this ensemble is to expose students to music and movement as a holistic approach to excellence in the arts." And there are no competitions on their calendar. Wow. Pickerington North has been a competition band since the school opened in 2003, after Pickerington split into Pickerington Central and Pickerington North. Prior to that, Pickerington High School had completed in OMEA at least as far back as 1982 (the first time they qualified for state finals). Over the past decade, Pickerington Central had not been as competitively successful as Pickerington North, but I'd still have ranked them in roughly the top 40 Ohio bands. Checking their calendar, I don't see any competitions listed for next year, but I don't know if that means they also are becoming a show band or if they still need to fill in their calendar. I'm not aware of any comparable example in recent memory of a high-quality Ohio competitive marching band making this shift. There have been some competition bands who became show bands after a period of struggle or decline: Findlay comes to mind. The closest I can think of is Lima Shawnee, an OMEA class A band that I don't believe I ever saw perform, who received a Superior rating at OMEA state finals for eighteen years straight through 2009 before apparently abandoning competitions. On social media a few years ago, I saw some Shawnee parents say something about how OMEA's expectations had grown too artistic or something like that -- but Shawnee's director and regular percussion instructor continued to judge in OMEA until very recently. Likewise one of Pickerington North's assistant directors, Chris Carmean, was an OMEA judge just last year, and Pickerington North's director, Gregory Benson, showed every sign of wanting to lead a competition band. He had been an assistant director at Grove City, and he was announced as William Mason's new director five years ago before changing his mind. After a levy failed in 2009, Grove City was unable to compete for one season, but to me this looks like something different and more permanent. There's been no public explanation for the change on Pickerington North's website or social media, as far as I can see. How bizarre.
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Post by dbalash on May 25, 2022 10:16:25 GMT -6
Confirmed:
DeKalb, IN
Source: Band calendar
F.J. Reitz, IN
Source: Show reveal video
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Post by yayband914 on May 25, 2022 11:44:45 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Fairfield Jr./Sr. H.S., IN (band calendar)
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Post by yayband914 on May 25, 2022 12:01:44 GMT -6
This deserves its own post.
Confirmed:
Lafayette H.S., KY (band calendar)
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Post by dbalash on May 25, 2022 14:44:01 GMT -6
AS OF 05/25/2022 Very Likely (13):Bartlett H.S., TN (AAAA) - OUT. Fall Break Beech Grove H.S., IN (AA) [IV] - CONFIRMED.Forest Park Jr./Sr. H.S., IN (A) [IV] - CONFIRMEDHamilton Southeastern H.S., IN (AAAA) [IV] - CONFIRMED.Jasper H.S., IN (AA) - TENTATIVE.Likely/Rumored (21):Blue Springs H.S., MO (AAA or AAAA) [II] - CONFIRMED.Evansville Central H.S., IN (AA) [II] - CONFIRMED.Victor J. Andrew H.S., IL (AAA) [II] - OUT. ISU.
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Post by Marching Observer on May 25, 2022 20:57:38 GMT -6
So I've decided it's close enough for me to start giving my unofficial way to early and it's JUST FOR FUN predictions. Let's start this journey shall we?
Finalists in alphabetical order: Avon Blue Springs Brownsburg Castle Carmel (they aren't on the list yet but....you know they'll be here...) Center Grove Centerville Fishers Homestead Jenks Lafayette Lincoln-Way Union William Mason
Bubblists in no order: Noblesville Ben Davis Lawrence Township Penn Evansville North Goshen Floyd Central Grain Valley
I probably missed something obvious but that's how I see it currently.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 31, 2022 10:52:13 GMT -6
For the first time.
Confirmed:
Pleasure Ridge Park H.S., KY - (BOA SR Indianapolis)
Source: 2022 show announcement video
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 2, 2022 10:47:45 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Franklin H.S., TN (band calendar)
Their only confirmed BOA show so far.
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Post by warehouse314 on Jun 3, 2022 21:05:19 GMT -6
Carmel is confirmed for Indy Super Regional... which is no surprise.
Source: Band Calendar (and my Son, who is on their staff)
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 14, 2022 11:10:03 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Monrovia H.S., IN (website calendar)
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 25, 2022 10:39:35 GMT -6
Confirmed:
South Spencer H.S., IN - (BOA: Indianapolis SR)
Source: Band Schedule
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jul 15, 2022 18:34:51 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Jasper H.S., IN - (BOA Performance (Between 11:15 AM - 1:45 PM))
Drop:
Mahomet-Seymour H.S., IL - (University of Illinois) Roosevelt H.S., SD - (Free Day/Performance at Auditorium)
Source: Band Calendar
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Post by Marching Observer on Jul 16, 2022 16:01:36 GMT -6
AA is really looking competitive right now with Jasper. Glad to see they are continuing with BOA too. Them, Grain Valley, Greenwood, Greenfield-Central, and depending on how they fall on the line, Western and Edgewood and more are also going to make things spicy. Love to see it.
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Post by thewho on Jul 19, 2022 15:49:45 GMT -6
Two big surprises:
Camdenton (MO) Kennesaw Mountain (GA)
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Post by ilikeguard on Jul 19, 2022 16:24:03 GMT -6
Two big surprises: Camdenton (MO) Kennesaw Mountain (GA) I successfully held my tongue for months 😊 super excited about this!
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Post by thewho on Jul 19, 2022 16:28:54 GMT -6
Two big surprises: Camdenton (MO) Kennesaw Mountain (GA) I successfully held my tongue for months 😊 super excited about this! Nice job!
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Post by Marching Observer on Jul 21, 2022 18:07:41 GMT -6
Hey I'm really glad you're talking the time to break down predicted classes for everyone and separating them. But one minor tweak to one. Snider is most definitely in AAA and not A. 🙂
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Post by ilikeguard on Jul 24, 2022 8:34:29 GMT -6
Camdenton is only getting better each year, but they will have an uphill battle to even place in AA here. Everyone who does will deserve it wholeheartedly with such a stacked class.
A little fun fact- members of the incoming senior class this year who were members of our guard or visual ensemble (who are able to be members of the band in one of these two roles as 7th and 8th graders) back in 2018 as 8th graders will have attended all three Super Regionals and Grand Nationals. As this is Camdenton’s first appearance at Indy SR, they are the only members in history to do so.
Good luck Cammies! I don’t think it’ll be realistic for me to go, but I’ll be sure to stream the contest as much as I can. I’m so excited for this show!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jul 29, 2022 16:38:33 GMT -6
Really packed show this years. My prediction. Some of them kinda hard to place them.
1. Avon H.S. (IN) 2. Carmel H.S. (IN) 3. William Mason H.S. (OH) 4. Blue Springs H.S. (MO) 5. Brownsburg H.S. (IN) 6. Fishers H.S. H.S. (IN) 7. Union H.S. (OK) 8. Castle H.S. (IN) 9. Homestead H.S. (IN) 10. Centerville H.S. (OH) 11. Jenks H.S. (OK) 12. Lincoln-Way Community H.S. (IL) 13. Grain Valley H.S. (MO) 14. Goshen H.S. (IN) ==========FINALS=========== 15. Center Grove H.S. (IN) 16. Lafayette H.S. (KY) 17. Evansville North H.S. (IN) 18. Lawrence Township H.S. (IN) 19. Camdenton H.S. (MO) 20. Floyd Central H.S., (IN) 21. Noblesville H.S. (IN) 22. Kennesaw Mountain H.S. (GA) 23. Franklin Central H.S. (IN) 24. Ben Davis H.S. (IN) 25. Franklin H.S. (TN) 26. Decatur Central H.S. (IN)
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Post by Dustin on Sept 13, 2022 10:28:54 GMT -6
I want to see what you guys think about this one this year...
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Post by ilikeguard on Sept 14, 2022 10:35:13 GMT -6
It looks like I will be going to all Supers! Very excited for this one as it's Camdenton's first time going. I haven't been to Lucas Oil since I marched GN my senior year of high school.
I agree with all of the rankings so far - this is an excitingly competitive weekend! I'm definitely optimistic about my own alma mater's performance, but history has shown that Camdenton is an early season force, and this is a bit later than their usual SR performance. I would love to see this overcome as it was in 2018. AA has certainly become one of the most-watched classes, and this year it's very well stacked. I'm particularly looking forward to seeing Evansville North, Franklin, and Grain Valley in AA (and Camdenton, of course).
I'm excited to support four different Missouri bands here! I expect a great year for both Blue Springs and Grain Valley - I'll be shocked if they aren't both in finals here. I would love to see a comeback for Union. I'm also looking forward to seeing Lincoln-Way and how the show will have changed from Iowa. I'll save my predictions for when I'm a bit more acquainted with Indiana bands, but they'll definitely be coming.
See you all there!
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Post by Shroom on Sept 14, 2022 19:19:27 GMT -6
Really packed show this years. My prediction. Some of them kinda hard to place them. 1. Avon H.S. (IN) 2. Carmel H.S. (IN) 3. William Mason H.S. (OH) 4. Blue Springs H.S. (MO) 5. Brownsburg H.S. (IN) 6. Fishers H.S. H.S. (IN) 7. Union H.S. (OK) 8. Castle H.S. (IN) 9. Homestead H.S. (IN) 10. Centerville H.S. (OH) 11. Jenks H.S. (OK) 12. Lincoln-Way Community H.S. (IL) 13. Grain Valley H.S. (MO) 14. Goshen H.S. (IN) ==========FINALS=========== 15. Center Grove H.S. (IN) 16. Lafayette H.S. (KY) 17. Evansville North H.S. (IN) 18. Lawrence Township H.S. (IN) 19. Camdenton H.S. (MO) 20. Floyd Central H.S., (IN) 21. Noblesville H.S. (IN) 22. Kennesaw Mountain H.S. (GA) 23. Franklin Central H.S. (IN) 24. Ben Davis H.S. (IN) 25. Franklin H.S. (TN) 26. Decatur Central H.S. (IN) Why have Franklin so low and Union so high after last year?
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Post by es203 on Sept 14, 2022 20:47:02 GMT -6
Holy crap this show is stacked. There are some outstanding bands that are gonna miss finals.
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Post by es203 on Sept 14, 2022 21:09:23 GMT -6
1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Blue Springs 4. William Mason 5. Fishers 6. Castle 7. Lincoln Way 8. Brownsburg 9. Homestead 10. Union 11. Lafayette 12. Franklin 13. Grain Valley 14. Centerville ————————————- 15. Jenks 16. Camdenton 17. Center Grove 18. Goshen 19. MPLT 20. Decatur Central 21. Kennesaw Mountain 22. Ben Davis
Early predictions that are going to be very wrong in a month and a half.
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Post by mk72 on Sept 14, 2022 21:16:49 GMT -6
There are two videos of Lafayette from about a month and a half from what I'm pretty sure was their band camp performance, and they sounded and looked uncharacteristically good for that early on. If they keep up that trajectory, I can only imagine the heads they're gonna turn here...
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Post by Shroom on Sept 14, 2022 21:45:37 GMT -6
I'll throw my hat in the ring as well...
1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Blue Springs 4. William Mason 5. Brownsburg 6. Castle 7. Fishers 8. Lincoln-Way 9. Homestead 10. Grain Valley 11. Centerville 12. Lafayette 13. Jenks 14. Camdenton
I haven't seen any most of the bands on this list so a lot of this is just guess work. I have seen Union however and unless Camdenton/Jenks/Centerville/Lafayette really drop the ball I'm not sure I see them even making it close to finals this year.
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Post by ilikeguard on Sept 14, 2022 21:51:27 GMT -6
I'll throw my hat in the ring as well... 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Blue Springs 4. William Mason 5. Brownsburg 6. Castle 7. Fishers 8. Lincoln-Way 9. Homestead 10. Grain Valley 11. Centerville 12. Lafayette 13. Jenks 14. Camdenton I haven't seen any most of the bands on this list so a lot of this is just guess work. I have seen Union however and unless Camdenton/Jenks/Centerville/Lafayette really drop the ball I'm not sure I see them even making it close to finals this year. This would be a dream for me hahaha. Has something happened at Center Grove that I'm not aware about? Even with the wealth of pride and faith I have in Camdenton, I wouldn't have put them over Center Grove. Though I'm pretty far removed from IN bands outside of seeing them within my corner of the universe!
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Post by es203 on Sept 14, 2022 22:12:56 GMT -6
There are two videos of Lafayette from about a month and a half from what I'm pretty sure was their band camp performance, and they sounded and looked uncharacteristically good for that early on. If they keep up that trajectory, I can only imagine the heads they're gonna turn here... Saw those videos as well, I was tempted to place them even higher but they haven’t made huge splashes in BOA since they beat DB. Certainly hoping they can break into the top 10 though
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Post by Shroom on Sept 14, 2022 22:20:57 GMT -6
I'll throw my hat in the ring as well... 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Blue Springs 4. William Mason 5. Brownsburg 6. Castle 7. Fishers 8. Lincoln-Way 9. Homestead 10. Grain Valley 11. Centerville 12. Lafayette 13. Jenks 14. Camdenton I haven't seen any most of the bands on this list so a lot of this is just guess work. I have seen Union however and unless Camdenton/Jenks/Centerville/Lafayette really drop the ball I'm not sure I see them even making it close to finals this year. This would be a dream for me hahaha. Has something happened at Center Grove that I'm not aware about? Even with the wealth of pride and faith I have in Camdenton, I wouldn't have put them over Center Grove. Though I'm pretty far removed from IN bands outside of seeing them within my corner of the universe! Quite honestly I haven't seen either this year and it's just a shot in the dark lol. When it comes to "low-mid" programs that make up the bottom spots of SRs like St. Louis and Indy there is basically no way to actually predict them since they are always the most volatile programs so I really just took what names stood out to me the most based off last year and threw them in random order.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 15, 2022 21:22:01 GMT -6
Western is AA this year.
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