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Post by yayband914 on Jan 21, 2022 17:59:46 GMT -6
Very Likely: Dripping Springs H.S., TX (tentative, but calendar covers both Friday and Saturday) Was already added prior. 😉 That’s strike two, my friend! 😝
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Post by abtwitch on Jan 21, 2022 19:12:49 GMT -6
Very Likely: Dripping Springs H.S., TX (tentative, but calendar covers both Friday and Saturday) Was already added prior. 😉 That’s strike two, my friend! 😝 Wait I swear I checked. Are you gaslighting me lol
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jan 21, 2022 19:28:36 GMT -6
Was already added prior. 😉 That’s strike two, my friend! 😝 Wait I swear I checked. Are you gaslighting me lol LMAO . yayband914 has been #Girlboss#gaslighting#gatekeeping these past couple of days.
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Post by LeanderMomma Fan on Jan 21, 2022 20:32:12 GMT -6
Was already added prior. 😉 That’s strike two, my friend! 😝 Wait I swear I checked. Are you gaslighting me lol What am I? Chopped liver?
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jan 25, 2022 3:01:53 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Coppell H.S., TX Waller H.S., TX
(Source) Band Calendar
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Post by neop on Jan 25, 2022 10:49:44 GMT -6
CONFIRMED: Vandegrift H.S., TX (band calendar)
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jan 25, 2022 20:52:56 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Keller H.S., TX
(Source) Band Calendar
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 25, 2022 21:33:10 GMT -6
Confirmed: Coppell H.S., TX Waller H.S., TX (Source) Band Calendar are we 100% sure on Coppell here? Maybe 50%? How about 20%? I mean I need to know if you are sure sure, pretty sure or just sorta sure. 🤔
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jan 26, 2022 7:23:40 GMT -6
Confirmed: Coppell H.S., TX Waller H.S., TX (Source) Band Calendar are we 100% sure on Coppell here? Maybe 50%? How about 20%? I mean I need to know if you are sure sure, pretty sure or just sorta sure. 🤔 I'm [1,+∞) percent sure.
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Post by neop on Jan 28, 2022 10:45:30 GMT -6
CONFIRMED: Vista Ridge H.S., TX and Wylie H.S., TX (band calendar)
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Post by 360s on Jan 29, 2022 0:55:52 GMT -6
Some drama coming out of the Vista Ridge program…allegations have been made and people have spoken up. It seems that this has been an issue for a while….might explain the drop in placements….students were unhappy….many top players dropped apparently. Similar to the Haltom situation…
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Post by trumpet300 on Jan 29, 2022 1:46:00 GMT -6
Some drama coming out of the Vista Ridge program…allegations have been made and people have spoken up. It seems that this has been an issue for a while….might explain the drop in placements….students were unhappy….many top players dropped apparently. Similar to the Haltom situation… What kind of allegations?
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Post by 360s on Jan 29, 2022 2:02:34 GMT -6
Some drama coming out of the Vista Ridge program…allegations have been made and people have spoken up. It seems that this has been an issue for a while….might explain the drop in placements….students were unhappy….many top players dropped apparently. Similar to the Haltom situation… What kind of allegations? Directorial issues…. Not being given enough water breaks… Racist remarks by directors….disrespectful behavior towards students such as insults….issues with the hybrid marching model in 2020…poor vetting of techs…these aren’t concrete events that happened but the allegations have arisen. The most serious allegations…are of potential instances where a director pushed and shoved students….during rehearsals. These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future….
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Post by trumpet300 on Jan 29, 2022 9:18:38 GMT -6
What kind of allegations? Directorial issues…. Not being given enough water breaks… Racist remarks by directors….disrespectful behavior towards students such as insults….issues with the hybrid marching model in 2020…poor vetting of techs…these aren’t concrete events that happened but the allegations have arisen. The most serious allegations…are of potential instances where a director pushed and shoved students….during rehearsals. These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future…. Wow that's terrible. It's so sad and frustrating to hear these things coming from Drum Corp, but to hear this from a high school band is beyond outrageous if it's true...
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jan 29, 2022 16:54:33 GMT -6
Drop:
Wakeland H.S., TX - (Lewisville Drumline Invitational)
Source: Band Calendar
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 30, 2022 11:11:55 GMT -6
Some drama coming out of the Vista Ridge program…allegations have been made and people have spoken up. It seems that this has been an issue for a while….might explain the drop in placements….students were unhappy….many top players dropped apparently. Similar to the Haltom situation… I have extremely close friends in the Vista Ridge program and I have NEVER heard anything like this. I’m not saying things like this can’t or don’t happen, but let’s be SUPER careful about throwing out accusations like this. Especially in a forum situation like this one.
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Post by Samuel Culper on Jan 30, 2022 11:59:58 GMT -6
What kind of allegations? Directorial issues…. Not being given enough water breaks… Racist remarks by directors….disrespectful behavior towards students such as insults….issues with the hybrid marching model in 2020…poor vetting of techs…these aren’t concrete events that happened but the allegations have arisen. The most serious allegations…are of potential instances where a director pushed and shoved students….during rehearsals. These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future…. It is so irresponsible to be posting unsubstantiated rumors like this. And especially ones that don't pass the smell test. I've been closely associated with the program for over a decade and I know all of the directors personally. There is nothing like this going around in the Vista circles. Not to mention that there are parents present at every rehearsal. Not enough water breaks? Bullshit. The directors are always very conscious of this. Racism? Complete bullshit. I won't dignify that any further. Insulting students? I'm not going to try to attempt to guess how teenage minds can misinterpret words or actions of others, but all of our directors always treat our kids with love and respect, from the most talented soloists to the struggling freshmen. And pushing and shoving? I'm not sure where to start... ****IF*****.... and I cannot stress that word strongly enough, there was ever any sort of untoward physical contact between a director and a student, I promise you there is much, much, much more to the story. But I don't believe it happened. I apologize for my language above, but posts like this piss me off. I put three kids though the Vista Ridge band program and I never hesitated for a moment to entrust my kids to our directors. I know them and have observed them through countless hours working with the kids, with the techs and with parents. To have their reputations besmirched like this publicly is unacceptable.
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Post by 360s on Jan 30, 2022 12:29:19 GMT -6
Directorial issues…. Not being given enough water breaks… Racist remarks by directors….disrespectful behavior towards students such as insults….issues with the hybrid marching model in 2020…poor vetting of techs…these aren’t concrete events that happened but the allegations have arisen. The most serious allegations…are of potential instances where a director pushed and shoved students….during rehearsals. These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future…. It is so irresponsible to be posting unsubstantiated rumors like this. And especially ones that don't pass the smell test. I've been closely associated with the program for over a decade and I know all of the directors personally. There is nothing like this going around in the Vista circles. Not to mention that there are parents present at every rehearsal. Not enough water breaks? Bullshit. The directors are always very conscious of this. Racism? Complete bullshit. I won't dignify that any further. Insulting students? I'm not going to try to attempt to guess how teenage minds can misinterpret words or actions of others, but all of our directors always treat our kids with love and respect, from the most talented soloists to the struggling freshmen. And pushing and shoving? I'm not sure where to start... ****IF*****.... and I cannot stress that word strongly enough, there was ever any sort of untoward physical contact between a director and a student, I promise you there is much, much, much more to the story. But I don't believe it happened. I apologize for my language above, but posts like this piss me off. I put three kids though the Vista Ridge band program and I never hesitated for a moment to entrust my kids to our directors. I know them and have observed them through countless hours working with the kids, with the techs and with parents. To have their reputations besmirched like this publicly is unacceptable. I choose to put more weight into the students claims…if you’d like to see the posts that have surfaced regarding students first hand experiences in the program I can send them to you…these aren’t random claims…these are claims put forwards by former students of the band…these are their experiences as they perceived them…we need to facilitate a discussion and not dismiss either side
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Post by supersound on Jan 30, 2022 12:32:59 GMT -6
Marking the Vista Ridge situation as something to watch on my end and nothing else. Drop: Wakeland H.S., TX - (Lewisville Drumline Invitational) Source: Band Calendar This is a very interesting drop. Not sure if it was a funding issue or something similar that they’ve opted for a solely drumline invitational instead of SA, where they very realistically have an outside shot at finals with a strong show in one of the most competitive fields in the country.
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Post by neop on Jan 30, 2022 12:41:57 GMT -6
CONFIRMED: Cypress Woods H.S., TX (band calendar)
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 30, 2022 12:51:45 GMT -6
It is so irresponsible to be posting unsubstantiated rumors like this. And especially ones that don't pass the smell test. I've been closely associated with the program for over a decade and I know all of the directors personally. There is nothing like this going around in the Vista circles. Not to mention that there are parents present at every rehearsal. Not enough water breaks? Bullshit. The directors are always very conscious of this. Racism? Complete bullshit. I won't dignify that any further. Insulting students? I'm not going to try to attempt to guess how teenage minds can misinterpret words or actions of others, but all of our directors always treat our kids with love and respect, from the most talented soloists to the struggling freshmen. And pushing and shoving? I'm not sure where to start... ****IF*****.... and I cannot stress that word strongly enough, there was ever any sort of untoward physical contact between a director and a student, I promise you there is much, much, much more to the story. But I don't believe it happened. I apologize for my language above, but posts like this piss me off. I put three kids though the Vista Ridge band program and I never hesitated for a moment to entrust my kids to our directors. I know them and have observed them through countless hours working with the kids, with the techs and with parents. To have their reputations besmirched like this publicly is unacceptable. I choose to put more weight into the students claims…if you’d like to see the posts that have surfaced regarding students first hand experiences in the program I can send them to you…these aren’t random claims…these are claims put forwards by former students of the band…these are their experiences as they perceived them…we need to facilitate a discussion and not dismiss either side I see that you are new. I’m curious if this is the only reason you made an account? I’m also seeing similarities to an old poster who was only interested in stirring the pot. To say you are on our “moderator radar” is a major understatement.
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Post by 360s on Jan 30, 2022 12:59:39 GMT -6
I choose to put more weight into the students claims…if you’d like to see the posts that have surfaced regarding students first hand experiences in the program I can send them to you…these aren’t random claims…these are claims put forwards by former students of the band…these are their experiences as they perceived them…we need to facilitate a discussion and not dismiss either side I see that you are new. I’m curious if this is the only reason you made an account? I’m also seeing similarities to an old poster who was only interested in stirring the pot. To say you are on our “moderator radar” is a major understatement. That is insulting… I am only trying to speak for the students who have made these claims… Identity concealed but these are…easily searchable Instagram posts and only a few of the claims brought up. I am *not* trying to stir the pot and I even…clearly made it clear that this is necessary to look at these claims to facilitate discussions. ibb.co/2PLT86Dibb.co/WyknHYR
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Post by 360s on Jan 30, 2022 13:03:39 GMT -6
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Post by 360s on Jan 30, 2022 13:04:44 GMT -6
These are one of the few claims…I intend ZERO harm. I believe these claims are mostly adhered to the newfound marching director rather than the established consent one.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 30, 2022 13:07:12 GMT -6
These are one of the few claims…I intend ZERO harm. I believe these claims are mostly adhered to the newfound marching director rather than the established consent one. Its just so far beyond anything I’ve ever heard so I’m sorry if I came down hard but this is a very salacious claim so I believe that we need to tread carefully here.
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Post by 360s on Jan 30, 2022 13:18:00 GMT -6
These are one of the few claims…I intend ZERO harm. I believe these claims are mostly adhered to the newfound marching director rather than the established consent one. Its just so far beyond anything I’ve ever heard so I’m sorry if I came down hard but this is a very salacious claim so I believe that we need to tread carefully here. I was trying to tread carefully but I’m sorry if it wasn’t enough, I just don’t think….it’s enough to outright ignore these claims just because…they might be false…we should still tred the situation if not very carefully “ These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future….”
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jan 30, 2022 13:26:09 GMT -6
Its just so far beyond anything I’ve ever heard so I’m sorry if I came down hard but this is a very salacious claim so I believe that we need to tread carefully here. I was trying to tread carefully but I’m sorry if it wasn’t enough, I just don’t think….it’s enough to outright ignore these claims just because…they might be false…we should still tred the situation if not very carefully “ These are not my opinions….just what I have heard. Whether you choose to put weight…..into these claims and allegations is your choice….I just think it sparks healthy discussion and insight into our marching programs…and helps create safe spaces for dialogue that could improve conditions in the future….” I agree that discussion is vital. But we absolutely are not here to spread false information about any program so we just need to be very careful about claims made here.
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Post by thewho on Jan 30, 2022 14:50:08 GMT -6
MOD POST: I realize the need to take allegations seriously and applaud those that do. I certainly support those that come forward publicly.
That being said, this is a public forum with no ties whatsoever to the Vista Ridge program other than hosting several VR-affiliated posters. The correct action of course would need to be forward the screenshot and allegiations to the VR administration and let them handle this internally.
At this point, this is obviously a very early developing story based on one account. While the allegiations are serious, these would be best substantied with those that are willing to come front with more testimony or eyewitness accounts to bolster the Insta OP's post.
With that, I'll be putting a pause on this for the moment until more relevant, factual testimonies come forward. No speculation, investigation, etc. posts unless it is factual (i.e. more testimonials about the behavior detailed in Insta OP's post)- those will be deleted.
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Post by lostchoirguy on Jan 30, 2022 16:12:29 GMT -6
MOD POST: I realize the need to take allegations seriously and applaud those that do. I certainly support those that come forward publicly. That being said, this is a public forum with no ties whatsoever to the Vista Ridge program other than hosting several VR-affiliated posters. The correct action of course would need to be forward the screenshot and allegiations to the VR administration and let them handle this internally. At this point, this is obviously a very early developing story based on one account. While the allegiations are serious, these would be best substantied with those that are willing to come front with more testimony or eyewitness accounts to bolster the Insta OP's post. With that, I'll be putting a pause on this for the moment until more relevant, factual testimonies come forward. No speculation, investigation, etc. posts unless it is factual (i.e. more testimonials about the behavior detailed in Insta OP's post)- those will be deleted. I agree completely. A fan forum doesn't seem the proper medium for these type of discussions unless something comes from the allegations. Let the students, parents, administrators, and directors work out these allegations. Perhaps on a different thread a general topic about health and safety for student performers can be brought up if we think this is an important topic to discuss on here.
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Post by detroitrockcity on Feb 2, 2022 15:02:27 GMT -6
Confirmed: Robert E. Hendrickson H.S., TX (band calendar)
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