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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 23, 2022 20:33:19 GMT -6
I’ll make my full predictions later, but this is a video taken this past Friday at a football game. Keep in mind, this is a football game and is nowhere near what they would look like at a contest, but after seeing this and Jenks last night, I can’t see Bixby jumping Jenks for 3rd. Don’t get me wrong, this is a very good show, and could possibly be the best show Bixby has had (except maybe 2018). A medal is possible for them, but Bixby always peaks earlier in the season, while Jenks gets better and better until the end.
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Post by jonathonmills on Oct 24, 2022 9:37:58 GMT -6
Predictions for 6a OBA finals
1. Broken Arrow 2. Mustang 3. Jenks 4. Bixby 5. Owasso 6. Edmond SF 7. Southmoore 8. Union 9. Yukon 10. Choctaw 11. Stillwater 12. Deer Creek
1st out. Edmond N 2nd out. Westmoore 3rd out. Edmond M
I think Owasso, Bixby, and Jenks are all pretty close. BA is an obvious lock, and I think Mustang is too. Southmoore, Yukon, and Union all have a chance to take that 7th spot, but I don’t see any of them in the top 6, except maybe Edmond SF drops below all of them. Oklahoma bands are killing it this year! I’m excited to watch 6a after seeing the 5a scores, it’s gonna be competitive!
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Post by coleeich on Oct 24, 2022 10:00:39 GMT -6
I could be wrong on this, but if Deer Creek makes finals, it will be the first time at a new band makes finals at 6A OBA for the first time since 2012, when Choctaw made their first appearance. So for the last 10 years, every finalist that we have seen has made finals at least once before.
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Post by jonathonmills on Oct 24, 2022 10:33:03 GMT -6
If that’s true than I really think this is their year to make finals. They did really well at Mustang, beating Yukon, Coweta, Stillwater, and Union. I think I should’ve ranked them higher
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Post by realjsnacks on Oct 24, 2022 10:57:58 GMT -6
My final 6A OBA predictions. This has absolutely been the hardest list to make so far as there are so many not only finalist contenders, but so many contenders for top 6 as well! I think I agree with the sentiment that this will end up being the most competitive OBA yet, and judging by how many more bands are throwing their hats into the BOA ring each year, I can only see it getting more competitive in the years to come! So, that said, while these will likely end up being wrong come Saturday, here they are!
1. Broken Arrow 2. Mustang 3. Jenks 4. Bixby 5. Owasso 6. Edmond Santa Fe 7. Yukon 8. Southmoore 9. Union 10. Choctaw 11. Edmond Memorial 12. Deer Creek --------------------- First Out - Edmond North 14. Westmoore 15. Stillwater
The breakdown- I did things a little bit differently this time as there's a lot to discuss here. For starters, I put the next three out as well because I honestly think anybody that I have 11-15 is going to be fighting HARD for that 11-12th place spot, so I honestly could see any of those five in that spot. BA was the only obvious choice for their spot in what was otherwise a very difficult list to make. That's a show that makes a hard fight for keeping Kevin in Oklahoma. Mustang has everything they need and then some to make themselves some more history this year and take the silver. It's hard for me to imagine anybody else there really, especially since they'll be gunning hard for GN finals a couple weeks later. Jenks made an impressive showing at Indy last week. I initially had them out of the top 7 there and they surprised me both in prelims and finals, so I have them up here to take a medal. I initially had Bixby in that medal spot, but as someone else here pointed out, they tend to peak early and Jenks was rather impressive at Indy. However, I still absolutely think that Bixby has a chance to take it again a la 2018. They 100% have the show to do it. Owasso has had a relatively quiet season as far as BOA goes, with only going to Bedford, and we haven't heard much from them since they got 12th there. Was hoping to see them at 5A OBA since they hosted but no dice. On another note, I really do think this is the year Santa Fe breaks into the top 6. That show is just phenomenal, and though we haven't seen much from then since Mustang, you know they've cleaned up and added to that monster of a show since they won there. Yukon is my pick for 7th over Southmoore, despite Southmoore beating them at St. Louis, simply because Yukon designed their show to peak here last year and I can't see that changing this year. Plus, both of them have to be riding that high of being first time BOA finalists (In Yukon's case at their first ever BOA showing), so I can also see them challenging Santa Fe for 6th. While it was painful to put Union as low as 9th, they've shown us just this past weekend never to count them out. If things go well, I could see them breaking the fight for 7th or 8th between Southmoore and Yukon. Choctaw is good yet again this year, but I just can't see them getting higher than 10th here. Everyone else is just better than they are, which speaks to how stiff the competition in our state has gotten. Edmond Memorial has improved a ton over last year, so I think this is the year they get back in, but it's hard to tell with them having not competed since October 1st. Same with Deer Creek and Edmond North. Though with Deer Creek going to Nats this year I imagine they have done a significant amount of cleaning/show additions that give them a very much hopeful shot for that last spot in finals. Westmoore, though I have them out here, is my dark horse for this contest. They could easily break into finals with a good prelims run, though it's gonna have to be really good to top the likes of the Edmond machine. Stillwater could also sneak in here, but in my opinion they're the least likely to. Stranger things have happened here though.
And that's about it! If you made it through that wall of text, nice job! Excited to see how things shake up this weekend at what is quickly becoming a more and more competitive contest each year! While I think BA still has another good while to reign their decades-spanning title, it's interesting to see how bands at the top level in OK are growing, and could one day grow enough to take down the mighty BA! Like I said, it'll still be a while before we see that, but the foundation has definitely been set for it! Exciting to see where these next few years will take us.
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Post by baricrazy on Oct 25, 2022 22:47:26 GMT -6
Jenks ranked #27 this week after an impressive showing at Indy! I’m curious to see if they’ll overtake Mustang and Bixby this weekend.
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Post by macwinlin on Oct 26, 2022 1:09:06 GMT -6
I’ll make my full predictions later, but this is a video taken this past Friday at a football game. Keep in mind, this is a football game and is nowhere near what they would look like at a contest, but after seeing this and Jenks last night, I can’t see Bixby jumping Jenks for 3rd. Don’t get me wrong, this is a very good show, and could possibly be the best show Bixby has had (except maybe 2018). A medal is possible for them, but Bixby always peaks earlier in the season, while Jenks gets better and better until the end. That was a pretty dirty run for them, but that’s a difficult stadium to perform in during football games — it’s so loud and there’s literally no space between the band and the crowd. I’m really surprised they haven’t had a completely new stadium on a bond issue yet. The upgrades on last year’s bond won’t do much, and with the #1 football team in the state (and maybe region), it’s time for a new build. I like what’s been added on the show since RR, though. I have Bixby and Jenks fighting for a medal. Maybe Edmond SF?
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Post by brnrkm on Oct 26, 2022 10:34:01 GMT -6
Anyone attending OSSAA today? Curious to see some predictions based on current performances for everyone.
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Post by sousaislife on Oct 26, 2022 13:03:09 GMT -6
Im gonna try my hand at some predictions 1.BA 2.Jenks 3.Mustang 4.Bixby 5.Owasso (although i think yukon or sante fe maybe) 6.Yukon 7.Santé Fe 8.Southmoore 9.Union 10.Choctaw 11.Deer creek 12 Ed Memorial
Let me know what you guys think
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Post by cheezits on Oct 26, 2022 13:22:02 GMT -6
Anyone attending OSSAA today? Curious to see some predictions based on current performances for everyone. There’s a live stream up
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Post by Momof20613 on Oct 26, 2022 14:22:35 GMT -6
Anyone attending OSSAA today? Curious to see some predictions based on current performances for everyone. There’s a live stream up So OSSAA can provide a live stream, but OBA can’t? That’s wild.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 26, 2022 15:42:53 GMT -6
Broken Arrow is looking sharp! Enjoyed the changes and the new ending. I 100% think they are in the running to keep Kevin in Oklahoma. Especially considering this is just an OSSAA performance where they are less worried about things like GE. It will be interesting to see if anything is different at OBA and especially to see what they change between OBA and Grand Nats. I could see a pre-show or after-show being added.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 26, 2022 20:18:48 GMT -6
Recent video of Deer Creek for those of you who haven't seen it. I like where the program is going, and I think we will see a lot of growth from them in the coming years. Not to mention the district itself is exploding. This year's band is night and day different than they were even like 2 years ago. One of my college friends is a director there now, which makes me feel old lol
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 26, 2022 21:48:48 GMT -6
I’ll make my full predictions later, but this is a video taken this past Friday at a football game. Keep in mind, this is a football game and is nowhere near what they would look like at a contest, but after seeing this and Jenks last night, I can’t see Bixby jumping Jenks for 3rd. Don’t get me wrong, this is a very good show, and could possibly be the best show Bixby has had (except maybe 2018). A medal is possible for them, but Bixby always peaks earlier in the season, while Jenks gets better and better until the end. That was a pretty dirty run for them, but that’s a difficult stadium to perform in during football games — it’s so loud and there’s literally no space between the band and the crowd. I’m really surprised they haven’t had a completely new stadium on a bond issue yet. The upgrades on last year’s bond won’t do much, and with the #1 football team in the state (and maybe region), it’s time for a new build. I like what’s been added on the show since RR, though. I have Bixby and Jenks fighting for a medal. Maybe Edmond SF? I’ve heard they’re making some upgrades to the stadium in the coming years, but for a football team with a win streak of 57, that stadium needs a lot more than just upgrades. Since Riverheads, VA lost, that’s now the longest active win streak in the nation! Now we just have to hope that Union doesn’t shut us down in the championship game. I think the new choreography is very unique, and Hysteria played over Crazy Train is awesome. I hope that ending chord is as loud as the My Way hit earlier in the show. I think that’s the first time Bixby has been LOUD. I’ve been looking for recent ESF videos, but so far I’ve come up empty handed. ESF on October 8th was for sure a top 3-5 band, but Jenks, Bixby, and Owasso have improved a lot since then. ESF is definitely the biggest wildcard this weekend.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 26, 2022 21:57:46 GMT -6
Here's a recent Santa Fe rehearsal video:
I have seen a couple other recordings from somewhat recently. The wind distorts the sound in this one for sure.
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Post by BDMello2223 on Oct 27, 2022 13:02:18 GMT -6
Updated predictions:
1) Broken Arrow - Outstanding GE, Outstanding Vis 2) Jenks 3) Mustang - Outstanding Music 4) Bixby 5) Owasso 6) Yukon 7) Southmoore 8) Edmond SF 9) Union 10) Choctaw 11) Stillwater 12) Deer Creek
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13) Edmond North 14) Edmond Memorial 15) Tahlequah
BOLD - Possible 90 breaker BOLD ITALICS - Unlikely but not impossible 90 breaker. (86 lock) ITALICS - Break 86
Broken Arrow seems obvious to me, however I could see Jenks beating them out if BA has a sloppy run. Mustang snagging OM is quite the call but I feel like they have a shot! They were less than half a point behind BA in music at STL so its very possible. Bixby has a very nice program this year, looks very fun and draws the audience in very well. It looks fun and is performed very well. I could very easily see Owasso and Yukon flip flopping, in fact I'd even be keen to lean on Yukon if it weren't for their performance at OSSAA this past Tuesday, I'm hoping it was a fluke! Southmoore is lookin' real good this year, with STL riding on their curtails I'm excited to see their performance! ESF looks good don't get me wrong, but I don't think they're going to beat out Southmoore, It's possible but I wouldn't put my money on it. I really hope I'm wrong about Union and they come back to reclaim their previous placement at least, I just don't see it happening. Choctaw has a solid program this year, definitely a step up from last year's show, they keep this up and they'll climb placements in future years for sure. Stillwater's show is niche, appealing because it's something we don't see very often. Really it's gonna come down to how the judges feel when Stillwater performs on Saturday. Deer Creek is looking like they're putting themselves together in the 6A world, definitely a solid pick for finals.
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Post by baricrazy on Oct 27, 2022 17:02:27 GMT -6
Updated predictions: 1) Broken Arrow - Outstanding GE, Outstanding Vis 2) Jenks 3) Mustang - Outstanding Music 4) Bixby 5) Owasso6) Yukon7) Southmoore 8) Edmond SF9) Union 10) Choctaw 11) Stillwater 12) Deer Creek -------------------- 13) Edmond North 14) Edmond Memorial 15) Tahlequah BOLD - Possible 90 breakerBOLD ITALICS - Unlikely but not impossible 90 breaker. (86 lock) ITALICS - Break 86Broken Arrow seems obvious to me, however I could see Jenks beating them out if BA has a sloppy run. Mustang snagging OM is quite the call but I feel like they have a shot! They were less than half a point behind BA in music at STL so its very possible. Bixby has a very nice program this year, looks very fun and draws the audience in very well. It looks fun and is performed very well. I could very easily see Owasso and Yukon flip flopping, in fact I'd even be keen to lean on Yukon if it weren't for their performance at OSSAA this past Tuesday, I'm hoping it was a fluke! Southmoore is lookin' real good this year, with STL riding on their curtails I'm excited to see their performance! ESF looks good don't get me wrong, but I don't think they're going to beat out Southmoore, It's possible but I wouldn't put my money on it. I really hope I'm wrong about Union and they come back to reclaim their previous placement at least, I just don't see it happening. Choctaw has a solid program this year, definitely a step up from last year's show, they keep this up and they'll climb placements in future years for sure. Stillwater's show is niche, appealing because it's something we don't see very often. Really it's gonna come down to how the judges feel when Stillwater performs on Saturday. Deer Creek is looking like they're putting themselves together in the 6A world, definitely a solid pick for finals. I really like these predictions. Jenks was beaten by Bixby early season, but are known for a making a big push through the year (Bixby edged out Jenks at the owasso invitational in 2018 but Jenks became grand national finalists that same year). I was really impressed by their performance at Indy. However, I hope Bixby gets at least 4th; their music this year seems like a step up from years past. I’m also really rooting for Union; they looked promising at Indy.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 27, 2022 17:18:10 GMT -6
Also really rooting for Union. Kind of insane that Mustang Invitational results would point to them being out of finals. Granted, I don't think anyone sees that happening, especially with them making Indy finals last weekend.
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Post by Momof20613 on Oct 27, 2022 20:58:45 GMT -6
Updated predictions: 1) Broken Arrow - Outstanding GE, Outstanding Vis 2) Jenks 3) Mustang - Outstanding Music 4) Bixby 5) Owasso6) Yukon7) Southmoore 8) Edmond SF9) Union 10) Choctaw 11) Stillwater 12) Deer Creek -------------------- 13) Edmond North 14) Edmond Memorial 15) Tahlequah BOLD - Possible 90 breakerBOLD ITALICS - Unlikely but not impossible 90 breaker. (86 lock) ITALICS - Break 86Broken Arrow seems obvious to me, however I could see Jenks beating them out if BA has a sloppy run. Mustang snagging OM is quite the call but I feel like they have a shot! They were less than half a point behind BA in music at STL so its very possible. Bixby has a very nice program this year, looks very fun and draws the audience in very well. It looks fun and is performed very well. I could very easily see Owasso and Yukon flip flopping, in fact I'd even be keen to lean on Yukon if it weren't for their performance at OSSAA this past Tuesday, I'm hoping it was a fluke! Southmoore is lookin' real good this year, with STL riding on their curtails I'm excited to see their performance! ESF looks good don't get me wrong, but I don't think they're going to beat out Southmoore, It's possible but I wouldn't put my money on it. I really hope I'm wrong about Union and they come back to reclaim their previous placement at least, I just don't see it happening. Choctaw has a solid program this year, definitely a step up from last year's show, they keep this up and they'll climb placements in future years for sure. Stillwater's show is niche, appealing because it's something we don't see very often. Really it's gonna come down to how the judges feel when Stillwater performs on Saturday. Deer Creek is looking like they're putting themselves together in the 6A world, definitely a solid pick for finals. I would definitely say Yukon’s poor performance at OSSAA was circumstantial, not an indication of where they are. It was cold and wet when they performed first of the day and they hadn’t done a full run since the previous Thursday. Everyone staff member and student was embarrassed by that run, it was pretty universal. We talked about it a lot during the day while we were running the contest.
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Post by coleeich on Oct 28, 2022 12:26:09 GMT -6
Some fantastic videos of the Edmond schools got posted today from their OBA send-off performance last night, and I really feel like Edmond Memorial has a great shot at finals. The bubble is so big and so tight this year, that one bad performance could make or break a group, but I was impressed by Edmond Memorial! They have a great sound, and at this point I think they have a better chance at making finals than Edmond North. Honestly, I could see Edmond Memorial higher than most people are placing them.
Here are my day-before-OBA-thoughts on how things might stack up:
Finals Locks Broken Arrow Mustang Jenks Bixby Edmond Santa Fe Owasso Southmoore Yukon
Bubble Bands Choctaw Edmond Memorial Union Deer Creek ---------------------- (finals cutoff) Stillwater Westmoore Edmond North
I genuinely believe any of the bubble bands could make finals. Competition is SO steep this year, and I cannot wait to see how things stack up. I am certain there will be some upsets, but it is just hard to figure out what those might be. I will be attending all of prelims tomorrow, but will unfortunately be unable to attend finals. Come say hi! I'll be posting my live reactions to all of the bands tomorrow so stay tuned! It is going to be a great day for OBA!
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Post by sousaislife on Oct 28, 2022 13:14:15 GMT -6
At first i was really unsure about Edmond sante fe due to them not having having any recent recordings or preformances, but i just watched the recording from their oba send off from last night, they look pretty solid, i definitely think they will get higher than they did last year, however im not sure if they will jump into top 6, i personally have them at 7 behind yukon
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Post by brnrkm on Oct 28, 2022 14:50:20 GMT -6
Some fantastic videos of the Edmond schools got posted today from their OBA send-off performance last night, and I really feel like Edmond Memorial has a great shot at finals. The bubble is so big and so tight this year, that one bad performance could make or break a group, but I was impressed by Edmond Memorial! They have a great sound, and at this point I think they have a better chance at making finals than Edmond North. Honestly, I could see Edmond Memorial higher than most people are placing them. Here are my day-before-OBA-thoughts on how things might stack up: Finals LocksBroken Arrow Mustang Jenks Bixby Edmond Santa Fe Owasso Southmoore Yukon Bubble Bands
Choctaw Edmond Memorial Union Deer Creek ---------------------- (finals cutoff) Stillwater Westmoore Edmond North I genuinely believe any of the bubble bands could make finals. Competition is SO steep this year, and I cannot wait to see how things stack up. I am certain there will be some upsets, but it is just hard to figure out what those might be. I will be attending all of prelims tomorrow, but will unfortunately be unable to attend finals. Come say hi! I'll be posting my live reactions to all of the bands tomorrow so stay tuned! It is going to be a great day for OBA! I won’t be able to make Prelims but I look forward to reading your comments about each band! I will be there for finals! Good luck to all participants and Congratulations on an amazing year!
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 28, 2022 21:33:07 GMT -6
My Pre-Prelims Predictions:
1. BA 2. Jenks 3. Mustang 4. Bixby 5. Edmond Santa Fe 6. Owasso 7. Yukon 8. Southmoore 9. Union 10. Deer Creek 11. Choctaw 12. Edmond Memorial -------------------------- 13. Stillwater 14. Edmond North 15. Westmoore 16. Tahlequah 17. PC North 18. Bartlesville 19. Moore 20. PC West 21. Muskogee
These might seem like spicy predictions, but I have good explanations as to why I have some of the bands in odd places. The first shocker here is having Jenks above Mustang. Looking at the spread between Blue Springs and Mustang at STL (Prelims 3.9, Finals 4.45) and the spread between Blue Springs and Jenks just a week later (Prelims 1.75, Finals 3.15), I think Jenks just might edge out Mustang for the silver. Having said that, Mustang has without a doubt fixed their visual issues (17th VI, 18th VE at STL Prelims, 14th VI, 6th VE at Finals) since then, and that seems to be their only issue. Bixby is another possible contender for a medal. Visually, I think Bixby has a shot at second, but while their music program this year sounds like the best they have ever had, I don't think it's enough to break into the top 3 in music, so their placement will most likely come down to their GE score. 2-4 could go any way at this point. I expect all 3 of the medal contenders to be very close.
The next tier of bands here is ESF, Owasso, Yukon, and Southmoore. After seeing their OBA send off performance, I don't think I can see ESF below 6th. I have them beating Owasso because while their Music and Visual are as good as ever, some judges don't seem Generally Effected by their show (GE joke). At prosper, Owasso got 8th in GE in prelims, and 12th in finals (with 11th being 1.2 GE points ahead). Depending on the judge, I could see Owasso in 5th or maybe even as far down as 7th, though I think 6th is more likely. Yukon is getting a lot of hype this year, and I do think they are doing very well, but I think Yukon in top 6 is a bit of a stretch. 6th is a possibility, but beating out Southmoore for 7th is going to be a challenge for them, let alone topping Owasso. I do think this will come down to the GE judge and the draw. Yukon has had HORRIBLE luck with draws this year. It seems like they go in the first block at just about every competition. Even at OBA they're going first in prelims.
Union, Deer Creek, and Choctaw are another grouping of bands that I just can't decide on. Deer Creek is looking GOOD right now and I just can't see them outside of finals. I think with the right run they could take 6A2 from Choctaw, and possibly get 9th above Union, but I'm not counting Choctaw out. They didn't place where they hoped to at Prosper, and will be looking to solidify themselves as the band to beat in 6A2 with Bixby no longer there.
Finally, I think Edmond Memorial and Stillwater will battle it out for the final spot. If you told me right now that Stillwater made finals over Edmond Memorial, I would be upset that Edmond Memorial didn't make it, and vice versa. I do think Edmond Memorial has the edge right now, and could possibly get as high as 10th, but with a good run, I could see Stillwater making it in. Edmond North and Westmoore also have a solid chance, though I have them out rather than in.
Here is a list of bands in the ranges I expect them to place:
1 BA 2-4 Jenks 2-4 Mustang 3-4 Bixby 5-7 Edmond Santa Fe 5-7 Owasso 6-8 Yukon 7-9 Southmoore 8-11 Union 9-11 Deer Creek 9-11 Choctaw 10-13 Edmond Memorial 12-15 Stillwater 12-15 Edmond North 12-15 Westmoore 16-18 Tahlequah 16-19 PC North 16-19 Bartlesville 18-20 Moore 18-20 PC West 21 Muskogee
I'll be there for all of prelims and probably the second half of finals, so don't be afraid to come say hi if you see me!
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 29, 2022 8:55:10 GMT -6
It’s a lot colder and wetter than I thought. Pretty sure I’m the only person in shorts and a tee shirt lol. If you see a guy in purple shorts come say hi 😂
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Post by coleeich on Oct 29, 2022 8:55:20 GMT -6
Here in Broken Arrow’s Memorial Stadium ready for a fantastic day of Oklahoma bands! The drizzle seems to be letting up, and I’m excited to see the first band in about 5 minutes! (As a side note, they have the Box-5 commercials playing on the big screen, so I couldn’t escape them here either. Fun to sing along though, since I practically have them all memorized at this point 😂)
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Post by coleeich on Oct 29, 2022 9:10:19 GMT -6
Fun western show from PC West! I loved how we went from some more traditional western show pieces to Billie Eilish and a nice sound!
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Post by coleeich on Oct 29, 2022 9:27:59 GMT -6
Yes Yukon! They sounded incredible. The demand of that show is incredible. If they keep pushing themselves like this, the sky is the limit of where we will see Yukon in the next few years
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Post by coleeich on Oct 29, 2022 9:41:08 GMT -6
Jenks was INCREDIBLE! I’ve been saying they were great since I saw them at Owasso but they have upped their game since then! So wish they were going to Grand Nats, but that’s a finalist caliber performance for sure! Hopefully next year! Jenks is definitely giving Mustang a run for their money!
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Post by coleeich on Oct 29, 2022 9:57:38 GMT -6
Union showed up to play! Their show has so many great moments. I think they are solidly in finals but I’m not thinking there is a chance at Top 6. I really enjoy the colors, and I do think this show is a step up from last year. Moving in the right direction, this isn’t the last of Union in my opinion! Great job and congrats on a great season Union!
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 29, 2022 10:00:43 GMT -6
Cole’s play by plays are so good I can almost feel the biting cold of the BA Memorial Stadium air all the way here
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