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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 11:09:59 GMT -6
Very nice Lincoln-Way! The show is made for this dome.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 11:12:11 GMT -6
Anyone else distracted by tarps Lincoln-Way is using? From the high view on the livestream, it makes it very difficult to see the forms. Too much reflection and not enough contrast. You should have seen it flying around in the Iowa wind last month. I don’t know how the idea made it off the drawing board…but I don’t hate it inside. I can totally see the reflection issue, though. It bothered me back in the day with O’Fallon. |
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 11:20:10 GMT -6
Anyone else distracted by tarps Lincoln-Way is using? From the high view on the livestream, it makes it very difficult to see the forms. Too much reflection and not enough contrast. You should have seen it flying around in the Iowa wind last month. I don’t know how the idea made it off the drawing board…but I don’t hate it inside. I can totally see the reflection issue, though. It bothered me back in the day with O’Fallon. I totally get tarps flying in the wind. Trust me, I've had personal experience back when my girls were in band.... That being said, I don't hate tarps on principle, but I'm just not sure what purpose they serve in L-W's show this year. |
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Post by ohbandie48 on Oct 22, 2022 11:25:19 GMT -6
Seeing Lincoln-Way and Lafayette back-to-back, i think Lincoln-Way has a huge advantage in visual but I definitely preferred Lafayette musically.
Centerville is on the bubble for me. Not a huge fan of the show design this year, although i really liked last year's.
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Post by Marching Observer on Oct 22, 2022 11:25:33 GMT -6
So here are my rankings as of the end of Panel 1 (Floyd Central began Panel 2). We have one group of bands left in the final stretch of prelims. Let's goooo!!! Updated Picks: Panel 1: Carmel Blue Springs Avon Fishers Goshen Panel 2: William Mason Brownsburg Jenks Homestead Kennesaw Mountain Last 4: Castle* Collierville* Kickapoo* Westfield** Next 4: Franklin Central** MPLT* Center Grove* Kettering Fairmont** Goshen in the top 5 of Panel 1 over Castle?? And no Union? Interesting.... I actually made a correction and didn't realize I hadn't copied it down. So excuse me....here were the UPDATED update lol. Thank you for catching that. Panel 1: Carmel Blue Springs Avon Fishers Collierville Last 4: Goshen* Castle* Kickapoo* Westfield** |
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Post by stlbanddad on Oct 22, 2022 11:28:03 GMT -6
Anyone else distracted by tarps Lincoln-Way is using? From the high view on the livestream, it makes it very difficult to see the forms. Too much reflection and not enough contrast. You should have seen it flying around in the Iowa wind last month. I don’t know how the idea made it off the drawing board…but I don’t hate it inside. I can totally see the reflection issue, though. It bothered me back in the day with O’Fallon. O'Fallon was definitely high on reflection, but had the opposite problem - with their dark uniforms on the white background, you could see EVERYTHING. |
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Post by bandirectorman on Oct 22, 2022 12:14:00 GMT -6
I’m not trying to self promote by linking this…okay, maybe a little. But I’ve written in-depth about this and it might be helpful! generaleffectmedia.substack.com/p/super-who-the-boa-super-regional It’s confusing, but the tl;dr of it is that you want to be the top 5 in your panel. If you aren’t, you aren’t out of finals, but you’ll have to beat every band from the OTHER panel too. The panels are as balanced as possible, but it isn’t out of the question that the 5th place band in one panel may score lower than all of the Next 4 if they all come from the other panel. Honestly, this might be one of the dumbest things BOA has ever done, up there with the 2003 finals debacle of not announcing placements outside of the champion. New-ish leadership, new ways to fail. |
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Post by bandirectorman on Oct 22, 2022 12:15:21 GMT -6
Seeing Lincoln-Way and Lafayette back-to-back, i think Lincoln-Way has a huge advantage in visual but I definitely preferred Lafayette musically. Centerville is on the bubble for me. Not a huge fan of the show design this year, although i really liked last year's. I was not all that impressed with Lincoln-Way. Overdone staging. Overall, they are in finals, but would be surprised at anything above 6th or 7th. |
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 12:24:17 GMT -6
Wow! Grain Valley! I'd put them above everyone we've seen today except perhaps Mason & Blue Springs! Great job!
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 22, 2022 12:25:02 GMT -6
Uuhhh. Grain Valley? Wow.
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 12:25:12 GMT -6
Yes
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 12:25:46 GMT -6
In my taylor swift wildest dreams that’s in nats finals
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Post by avianamos on Oct 22, 2022 12:27:12 GMT -6
How did Centerville do? I can't watch right now because I'm at a football game for college marching band.
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Post by paddy on Oct 22, 2022 12:29:14 GMT -6
GV did a great job performing a show that contained nearly every design thing that I dislike in a marching band show.
But gosh darn they do it really, really well.
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Post by BandHomer on Oct 22, 2022 12:36:46 GMT -6
There are a lot of the vibrant multi-colored visuals and uniforms this year like GV…but I think theirs is my fave so far. Great show!
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Post by ohbandie48 on Oct 22, 2022 12:40:08 GMT -6
I liked the music choices for Franklin, but when you put them all together, it felt a bit confusing and weird transitionally. They sounded pretty good though, although visual might need some cleaning. I think I'd put them on the bubble as well.
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 12:40:40 GMT -6
GV did a great job performing a show that contained nearly every design thing that I dislike in a marching band show. But gosh darn they do it really, really well. Agreed. I hate the use of "canned" music in a marching band show. But they did it very well... |
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Post by verysaxy on Oct 22, 2022 12:44:32 GMT -6
Throughout prelims, I’ve been rather silent on my thoughts as they’ve all been said by the rest of you in this thread — but I too have to say that Grain Valley impressed me beyond imagination. I’m feeling bold enough to say there’s a stark difference between STL GV and Indy GV.
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 12:47:52 GMT -6
I liked the music choices for Franklin, but when you put them all together, it felt a bit confusing and weird transitionally. They sounded pretty good though, although visual might need some cleaning. I think I'd put them on the bubble as well. Yeah, with the number of excellent bands here this weekend, I don't see them breaking into finals. I love me some Grainger in a marching band show, but following it with Ozzy Osbourne just doesn't feel right. |
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 22, 2022 13:10:26 GMT -6
Uggh. The wide camera person who always zooms in to frame the band when they gather closer together, then keep it zoomed in when the band spreads back apart!
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 13:13:59 GMT -6
I doompost when I’m nervous sorry guys
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Post by ilikeguard on Oct 22, 2022 13:15:40 GMT -6
Uggh. The wide camera person who always zooms in to frame the band when they gather closer together, then keep it zoomed in when the band spreads back apart! That’s America’s most experienced event video company for you |
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 22, 2022 13:17:54 GMT -6
Uggh. The wide camera person who always zooms in to frame the band when they gather closer together, then keep it zoomed in when the band spreads back apart! That’s America’s most experienced event video company for you Just find the zoom level and leave it! |
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 13:18:07 GMT -6
Love the judges fixing Bosse's tarp for them! It's all about safety, kids!
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Post by Allohak on Oct 22, 2022 13:18:15 GMT -6
I doompost when I’m nervous sorry guys Yeah that was very enjoyable from Camdenton! |
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 22, 2022 13:26:32 GMT -6
Was hiking this morning so I only caught Blue Springs. I thought They did great this morning. Very clean. Not sure how demand wise they’ll stack up against Avon and Carmel
Looking forward to seeing finals later
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 22, 2022 13:26:38 GMT -6
This is my first year without a kid in a band program competing, so here's my mostly unbiased predictions for finals tonight in alphabetical order.
Panel 1
Avon
Blue Springs
Carmel
Castle
Fishers
Panel 2
Brownsburg
Grain Valley
Jenks
Lincoln-Way
Mason
Last 4:
Collierville
Goshen
Homestead
Lafayette
Bubble Bands:
Camdenton
Franklin Central
Kennesaw Mountain
Kickapoo
Lawrence Township
Union
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 22, 2022 13:39:31 GMT -6
This is my first year without a kid in a band program competing, so here's my mostly unbiased predictions for finals tonight in alphabetical order. Panel 1Avon Blue Springs Carmel Castle Fishers Panel 2
Brownsburg Grain Valley Jenks Lincoln-Way Mason Last 4:
Collierville Goshen Homestead Lafayette Bubble Bands:
Camdenton Franklin Central Kennesaw Mountain Kickapoo Lawrence Township Union This looks pretty good to me. Unfortunately I have this sinking suspicion that Homestead’s early time slot yesterday is going to curse them though. I hope I'm wrong because it really was a good performance! |
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Post by bandirectorman on Oct 22, 2022 13:48:48 GMT -6
That’s America’s most experienced event video company for you Just find the zoom level and leave it! Aren't they offering a high-cam view? Never go with the stupid multi-cam option. That's for grandma. |
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Post by mrmatthews on Oct 22, 2022 13:52:04 GMT -6
I was referring to the High Cam. They zoom in and try to follow the band, but don't always zoom back out.
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