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Post by Jake W. on Nov 10, 2022 12:13:13 GMT -6
Nice job, Milford! I've got them in the low 80s. A really neat show design. Big, lush guard that added a ton to the visual design. An interesting paradox with the winds - lots of great technique demonstrated across all sections for a band of their skill level, but, to my ears, not much attention paid to balance, blend, & tone quality - even apparent with small ensembles. But a well-playing group in terms of flying fingers & rhythmic accuracy. I think they'll be joining Anderson County & Greenfield-Central in the soon-to-be lonnnnnngggggg list of terrific groups who will put up respectable scores - but there just won't be room for in Semis.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 10, 2022 12:19:55 GMT -6
Hamilton with a very "Mustang-y" moment there with the pool floats.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 12:26:05 GMT -6
Are you folks watching multicam or high cam tonight? High cam for me. And on that stream, at least, Box 5 has gotten a number of the bands' information wrong.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 12:28:54 GMT -6
Why did Greenfield Central have their own prerecorded "proud to present" introductory announcement, and why did they play it a minute into their show? An artistic choice within the design. Thanks. Seems to me like a weird decision. In the moment, it sounded like a mistake, as if the minute of the show after BOA's announcement was meant to be in their preshow.
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Post by das88 on Nov 10, 2022 12:29:27 GMT -6
I think finals will look like this 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Broken Arrow 4. Tarpon Springs 5. William Mason 6. Dobyns-Bennett 7. MG Johnson 8. Fishers 9. Brownsburg 10. Prosper 11. O'Fallon Township 12. American Fork Hendrickson, Rosemount, Castle, JFB, Centerville, and a few others are all fighting for the last three spots or so I mostly agree with this. Not sure American Fork or Prosper, they feel more like the bubble to me. I’m a huge Hendrickson fan this season (saw them at UIL and BOA Austin), and have high hopes for them. Castle has added some things. I think Homestead will surprise some that haven’t seen them since Toledo.
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Post by 0000 on Nov 10, 2022 12:35:51 GMT -6
Goshen sax soloist is killing it. Loving the scoops and overall tone
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Post by TeamIndiana on Nov 10, 2022 12:39:51 GMT -6
Way to go Goshen! I’m so proud of this group. They have grown a lot this season and have a spectacular show! Congratulations on a successful 2022 season, and I hope we see you again in Semi’s!
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Post by Jake W. on Nov 10, 2022 12:42:57 GMT -6
Goshen was EXCELLENT. Strong, powerful, and clean clean clean. Crisp & precise drumline, rock solid individual visual technique from the entire group, big & clear woodwind ensemble sounds, powerful control on the Red Cape Tango full band moments. Controlled, ebbing dynamics throughout. A tight and supple performance from all facets of the unit. Should be easily in Semis, landing them their...second appearance? Great job, Goshen!
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Post by thewho on Nov 10, 2022 12:43:25 GMT -6
Goshen! What a huge leap this year! Can't be any prouder of the program!
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Post by peshbandkid on Nov 10, 2022 12:52:15 GMT -6
I think finals will look like this 1. Avon 2. Carmel 3. Broken Arrow 4. Tarpon Springs 5. William Mason 6. Dobyns-Bennett 7. MG Johnson 8. Fishers 9. Brownsburg 10. Prosper 11. O'Fallon Township 12. American Fork Hendrickson, Rosemount, Castle, JFB, Centerville, and a few others are all fighting for the last three spots or so I mostly agree with this. Not sure American Fork or Prosper, they feel more like the bubble to me. I’m a huge Hendrickson fan this season (saw them at UIL and BOA Austin), and have high hopes for them. Hendrickson was phenomenal at San Antonio! What makes me slightly nervous is their GE scores. I think (based on Area C, BOA Prosper, etc.) Hendrickson, Prosper, and MG Johnson are all safer bets in the top 15.
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2022 12:55:20 GMT -6
Why did Greenfield Central have their own prerecorded "proud to present" introductory announcement, and why did they play it a minute into their show? You get a resounding "shrug" from me. I've seen it several times and ya got me really. But they do perform well. They were 3rd at State Finals after all so the judges may get "it" more than us.
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2022 13:00:18 GMT -6
Way to go Goshen! I’m so proud of this group. They have grown a lot this season and have a spectacular show! Congratulations on a successful 2022 season, and I hope we see you again in Semi’s! 100%! I think State was a little bit of a tighter run, but certainly felt this one was deserving of a spot in Semi-Finals this year. If they make as large a leap next year as they did this one, people will really need to watch out. And I believe they can do that. This years show was perfectly designed to max out their talent and now they can really start pushing forward.
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Post by Jake W. on Nov 10, 2022 13:02:29 GMT -6
Someone catch me up on Bellbrook - why so small? Did Covid do a number on them? And if so, why them over other groups of similar skill, size, & location? I understand they haven't thrived since moving to AA in BOA competitions, but having already seen BoCo, I currently have Bellbrook about 7-8 points behind (an admittedly very strong) BoCo, so I don't feel like they'd be at their former competitive stature even if they were still in A.
They still have a really mature, nice design - and of course their wonderful guard. I mentioned this about Norton as well, but the music book seems pretty "big" for 40 or so winds - like it was written for a group with 100+ winds. Lots of large full ensemble moments, some of which were achieved, some of which were splatty and uncontrolled. Lots of really, really nice small ensemble sounds though, especially from the woodwinds. I just can't help but wonder if they might sound a bit better with music arranged for a thinner roster, instead of just arranging carte blanche like one would for a big band with full rosters in every section.
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2022 13:14:50 GMT -6
Are you folks watching multicam or high cam tonight? First time streaming grand nats instead of performing in it so I'm curious what the general consensus is When I watch on stream, I generally watch on multi-cam as when I'm in person, I normally only get my normal vision high cam vision lol. I too like to see the little nuances in a show or expressions that you normally wouldn't catch. But it really just comes down to personal preference. Watch a few in both and see what you like best!
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2022 13:30:48 GMT -6
Someone catch me up on Bellbrook - why so small? Did Covid do a number on them? And if so, why them over other groups of similar skill, size, & location? I understand they haven't thrived since moving to AA in BOA competitions, but having already seen BoCo, I currently have Bellbrook about 7-8 points behind (an admittedly very strong) BoCo, so I don't feel like they'd be at their former competitive stature even if they were still in A. They still have a really mature, nice design - and of course their wonderful guard. I mentioned this about Norton as well, but the music book seems pretty "big" for 40 or so winds - like it was written for a group with 100+ winds. Lots of large full ensemble moments, some of which were achieved, some of which were splatty and uncontrolled. Lots of really, really nice small ensemble sounds though, especially from the woodwinds. I just can't help but wonder if they might sound a bit better with music arranged for a thinner roster, instead of just arranging carte blanche like one would for a big band with full rosters in every section. As far as I know, they've been about this size for awhile. Probably a bit bigger than their average too. And honestly, this is still the best they have been imo in nearly a decade. It was a loose run for sure, but I'm seeing the potential for a small resurgence. Being in AA may limit that to an extent, but certainly a band that will be able to carry weight into each show.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 13:36:33 GMT -6
My high camera view went out during Wilmington with a message saying "There was an error providing access to restricted content." Anyone else get that? I can still watch the multicam.
Edit: And a couple minutes later, the high cam was back. Odd.
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Post by iogyhufi on Nov 10, 2022 13:37:35 GMT -6
Goshen was EXCELLENT. Strong, powerful, and clean clean clean. Crisp & precise drumline, rock solid individual visual technique from the entire group, big & clear woodwind ensemble sounds, powerful control on the Red Cape Tango full band moments. Controlled, ebbing dynamics throughout. A tight and supple performance from all facets of the unit. Should be easily in Semis, landing them their...second appearance? Great job, Goshen! A lot of credit to the directors (Tom Cox and Josh Kaufman) too. They're putting all this together in a community that doesn't have near the resources that the big Indy schools have. Absolutely wonderful to see how far they've come.
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Post by paddy on Nov 10, 2022 13:53:12 GMT -6
Greenfield-Central is a show about time travel.
The portion of show after the BOA announcement and before the recorded announcement is the same as their closing bit of show.
The bit of choreography and back track with the tik-tok sound is “rewinding” the show to the “beginning” hence the show announcement.
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Post by warehouse314 on Nov 10, 2022 13:53:14 GMT -6
Has the Avon HS (Ohio group) grown in size over the past 5 years or so? They seem much bigger (and better) than I remember... but it could just be old age. 🤔
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 13:57:02 GMT -6
Greenfield-Central is a show about time travel. The portion of show after the BOA announcement and before the recorded announcement is the same as their closing bit of show. The bit of choreography and back track with the tik-tok sound is “rewinding” the show to the “beginning” hence the show announcement. Thanks! That explains a lot. They should hand out cards with that information so the audience can follow along.
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Post by dbdbdb on Nov 10, 2022 14:06:18 GMT -6
Omg to the ladies crunching potato chips, rattling bags, cell phone ringing, and loudly discussing other bands during Avon, OH performance. You know who you are… section 244. Geez 🙄 Respect?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 14:08:49 GMT -6
Has the Avon HS (Ohio group) grown in size over the past 5 years or so? They seem much bigger (and better) than I remember... but it could just be old age. 🤔 My 2017 OMEA state finals program says they had 120 members that year. This year's program says 104. This year's show is maybe a trifle better than that year's, in my opinion. Some of their shows earlier in the 2010s were weaker, though. And speaking of Avon (OH): the high cam feed was showing a Box 5 featurette until after that band started performing, which was annoying.
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Post by Allohak on Nov 10, 2022 14:08:57 GMT -6
Shout out to the Jenison band for coming out early and watching the first couple of blocks, giving every group a standing ovation
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Post by marchingartsfan on Nov 10, 2022 14:13:32 GMT -6
Shout out to the Jenison band for coming out early and watching the first couple of blocks, giving every group a standing ovation Band is the best. You love to see it!!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Nov 10, 2022 14:18:10 GMT -6
Omg to the ladies crunching potato chips, rattling bags, cell phone ringing, and loudly discussing other bands during Avon, OH performance. You know who you are… section 244. Geez 🙄 Respect? At OMEA finals in Piqua last Sunday, there were some folks a few rows in front of me who came in just before Athens performed, and apparently they talked to each throughout that band's performance (although I didn't hear it), because just after that, the Lakota East parents sitting in front of them told them to cut it out and reminded them that every student had worked hard all year to be there. I didn't notice which school the miscreant parents were with, so I can't say with absolute certainty, but I did notice that they were gone after the performance of the next and final band in that block, which I shall not name but which is going to be performing at Grand Nationals this week. Maybe those parents weren't with that band but simply moved to other seats during the break out of sheer embarrassment. (Lakota East wasn't scheduled to go on for another two hours: their parents starting arriving quite early.)
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Post by dbdbdb on Nov 10, 2022 14:24:02 GMT -6
Omg to the ladies crunching potato chips, rattling bags, cell phone ringing, and loudly discussing other bands during Avon, OH performance. You know who you are… section 244. Geez 🙄 Respect? At OMEA finals in Piqua last Sunday, there were some folks a few rows in front of me who came in just before Athens performed, and apparently they talked to each throughout that band's performance (although I didn't hear it), because just after that, the Lakota East parents sitting in front of them told them to cut it out and reminded them that every student had worked hard all year to be there. I didn't notice which school the miscreant parents were with, so I can't say with absolute certainty, but I did notice that they were gone after the performance of the next and final band in that block, which I shall not name but which is going to be performing at Grand Nationals this week. Maybe those parents weren't with that band but simply moved to other seats during the break out of sheer embarrassment. (Lakota East wasn't scheduled to go on for another two hours: their parents starting arriving quite early.) Regardless of which band is performing, they are kids who have put everything they have into the performance. They’re practiced countless hours and a lot of them have traveled quite a ways to get here. There are seniors on that field who might be performing for the very last time. There are freshman who are nervous. This is the culmination of months of hard work. They all deserve attention and respect. As parents and fans in attendance, we should expect no less than full attention and support for these kiddos.
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Post by jason on Nov 10, 2022 14:31:14 GMT -6
Goshen was EXCELLENT. Strong, powerful, and clean clean clean. Crisp & precise drumline, rock solid individual visual technique from the entire group, big & clear woodwind ensemble sounds, powerful control on the Red Cape Tango full band moments. Controlled, ebbing dynamics throughout. A tight and supple performance from all facets of the unit. Should be easily in Semis, landing them there...second appearance? Great job, Goshen! This would actually be their fourth semifinals appearance. They made semifinals in 2012, 2015, 2018, and hopefully 2022.
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -6
Greenfield-Central is a show about time travel. The portion of show after the BOA announcement and before the recorded announcement is the same as their closing bit of show. The bit of choreography and back track with the tik-tok sound is “rewinding” the show to the “beginning” hence the show announcement. Thanks! That explains a lot. They should hand out cards with that information so the audience can follow along. Agreed that it makes much more sense. I understood the warped tarps and podium. Also noticed they basically ended the show as they begin in that one set. Time travel makes it all make sense though. Thanks for clearing that up. Sucks to have a show where you scratch your head after a season still wondering what something was about.
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Post by 0000 on Nov 10, 2022 14:31:51 GMT -6
Phenomenal brass sound out of Miamisburg!
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Post by mtnxdrew on Nov 10, 2022 14:34:30 GMT -6
Shout out to the Jenison band for coming out early and watching the first couple of blocks, giving every group a standing ovation Wow, proud alum here!
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