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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 25, 2022 20:36:02 GMT -6
What is the major factor in Southlake Carrolls numbers? From Veranda.com Southlake, Texas—known for its exemplary public schools (one of which has won eight football state championships)—is the richest city in the United States for 2022, according to 24/7 Wall St., which used five-year estimates of median household income from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2019 American Community Survey (ACS). With a median household income of $240,248, Southlake’s population earns shockingly more than the average American household, which posted a median income of $69,560 in 2019 (a 15.3 percent increase from the 2017 median of $60,336, which we had previously reported on). (That said, the latest five-year ACS accounts for years 2014–2018. Since then, the 2020 median household income has been reported as $67,521, a 2.9 percent decrease since 2019, which is due largely in part to the COVID-19 pandemic.) One reason for Southlake's wealth? The city boasts a population in which 69.7 percent of adult residents have at least a bachelor’s degree. While that may seem quite high, it’s surprisingly ranked only 57th of the 1,775 cities evaluated. Additionally the city boasts the 11th lowest poverty rate, at just 2.5 percent. Together, these two factors—high college education and low poverty rates—are common among America’s richest cities Better yet for SL Carroll, they’re unencumbered by resources being divided as they are also a one-school town as well. For DFW locals and Texans too, everyone knows the whole community is quite prideful of what they have there😂 The school is known to be quite successful in a variety of endeavors, notably in football and baseball, having been successful in band. Marching band wasn’t emphasized for a decent bit but now they’re rising, and they’re well positioned to keep rising. Heck, I was working at the Rangers’ ballpark this past year, Carroll had their own dedicated local school night for one of the games, with a SLC Dragon hat being given away and so many people turned out, they’re a community that really puts their all behind their school for sure, peep their Home football stadium too haha just a lot to look at with them. They definitely have a sporting and competitive culture in whatever way it shapes out for them, if you look at past winners in their classification for the UIL Lone Star Cup, basically rewarding the best all-around school in competitive successes, Carroll’s name is littered all throughout. Another name littered throughout in the 5A/6A classification would be TWHS, also quite good at band last I heard😮 Another school in a very wealthy community within a larger metro area in the state(Houston) with it being the staple school of the community*cough*cough*🙃i say the last bit in jest, don’t come at me y’all😂
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Post by Jake W. on Nov 26, 2022 1:26:50 GMT -6
Excellent, excellent point on Southlake Carroll's advantage of being a one-school district, vidal28rdg. Combine a wealthy community with no splits in resources or splits in community support and you've got a recipe for success. Carmel is in the same boat; there is immense pride in having a Carmel address and the school district is exceptionally well-supported by the community. Despite their official IDOE 9-12 enrollment numbers posting as 5,327 (!!!!!!!!) for the 2021-2022 school year, there has never been an enthusiastic push for two high schools in the district, because it's just flat out a community that is intensely rallied behind its namesake school. Broken Arrow, Avon, Brownsburg, Coppell, Duncanville, Centerville, formerly Wando before their recent split, who else? That's not very many, and few others come to mind that share this unique advantage. Even bands that do come from single-school districts, like Ben Davis or Union, simply exist as entities within a large city and don't really have a "community" established other than arbitrary district lines. Honestly, what you brought up is way more of a small school/rural district vibe - the aforementioned advantage applies to almost every small school that has excelled in BOA. But, in these few cases, it's like mixing small town/hometown pride with suburban wealth and resources.
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Post by philodemus on Nov 26, 2022 9:47:11 GMT -6
Really interesting point being made about districts with a commitment to ONE high school. That would seem to be an advantage Dobyns-Bennett has as well, based on what was explained above in this thread.
Just as a larger point not confined only to the marching world... I think a lot of people from bigger cities don't understand the role that a school can play in its community as a focal point for civic engagement and community pride. You see this a lot in small towns: the school is the community in meaningful ways.
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Post by vidal28rdg on Nov 26, 2022 15:25:08 GMT -6
Excellent, excellent point on Southlake Carroll's advantage of being a one-school district, vidal28rdg. Combine a wealthy community with no splits in resources or splits in community support and you've got a recipe for success. Carmel is in the same boat; there is immense pride in having a Carmel address and the school district is exceptionally well-supported by the community. Despite their official IDOE 9-12 enrollment numbers posting as 5,327 (!!!!!!!!) for the 2021-2022 school year, there has never been an enthusiastic push for two high schools in the district, because it's just flat out a community that is intensely rallied behind its namesake school. Broken Arrow, Avon, Brownsburg, Coppell, Duncanville, Centerville, formerly Wando before their recent split, who else? That's not very many, and few others come to mind that share this unique advantage. Even bands that do come from single-school districts, like Ben Davis or Union, simply exist as entities within a large city and don't really have a "community" established other than arbitrary district lines. Honestly, what you brought up is way more of a small school/rural district vibe - the aforementioned advantage applies to almost every small school that has excelled in BOA. But, in these few cases, it's like mixing small town/hometown pride with suburban wealth and resources. The very last bit that you said is incredibly true, a very potent combination to have, a school to have a concentration and dedication of resources solely to them is definitely a very fortunate and advantageous position to be in, and the schools that are in this position take full advantage!! I know in my school district being Arlington ISD, the third largest city in DFW, at around 400,000 people, resources are divided amongst our 6 high schools and very very much unevenly distributed sadly. Arlington is very much a “lower end of the middle of the pack” city economically, per capita, median household income, etc. right in the middle of all its surrounding DFW cities towns etc. It has its pockets of wealthier neighborhoods, zip codes, and the high schools that inhabit those areas nearby get more allocated toward them, there’s a lot I could go into. I went to the wealthiest school in the city, and with the other Arlington bands, you could definitely say we had more of the bells and whistles for marching band, better production value, higher end designers, consistently competing in BOA, averaging out to doing pretty decently at most of the contests we went to. I know in my school district that there are definite inequalities, especially in band to where some of our schools haven’t had groups in either marching or concert band be able to achieve 1’s consistently at UIL contests in years. I really do think the district has to do more for the fine arts programs in all regards, building a new performing arts center recently is great, but more money, quality staff, lesson teachers, resources have to go to the schools directly. Taking the time to talk about my home district don’t mind me lol
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Post by hostrauser on Nov 26, 2022 19:26:16 GMT -6
This must be a different metric used in determining poverty rate as these are way too high based on the standard Census Bureau definition with the average US Poverty rate around 11.6% Percentage of student body that qualifies for federal free lunch program, as reported to the Department of Education. The federal poverty line for two people is set at a laughable $17,420, so a single mother trying to raise a kid on $18,000/year (less than $9/hour) is not "officially" in poverty. That's hot garbage. It's also a touchy subject for me how states and municipalities manipulate data to make things look better than they are. You can say your area's poverty rate is only 20%, but if 99% of the kids in your area need financial assistance just to EAT, your actual poverty rate is much higher than 20%.
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Post by saxeshead on Nov 27, 2022 19:02:04 GMT -6
I love the idea of an 'underground band town'! Like, a secret society of marching arts appreciators... I'd join! Edited to Add: Centerville, by the way, is always on my list of 'must see' groups at Grand Nats. Much love and respect for the Jazz from someone who has no connection at all... just a fan of the show style, and of 'band towns' in general. Thanks so much! And yeah it’s like there’s certain families where band has some degree of a home, and you probably know at least one of those families if you live in the area and participate in band. And it’s really nice to hear how much people enjoy our shows! In my time of band so far we don’t get much of that from anyone outside the band. The directors and parents always express their pride after a great performance, but this year our director also told us after prelims: “There is a lot of buzz about the Centerville Jazz Band right now. People are excited for you.” And it was such an unfamiliar feeling, knowing that other directors and musicians and etc we excited and entertained about us. We dedicate ourselves to a style of being our individual best and entertaining. So hearing that we have an impact on people outside of the applause in the stadium is wonderful. We once had a judge tell us nothing but “Jazz doesn’t belong on the field.” He was apparently fired for it, but it killed our season that year. We just had another season of a lot of success and hope that we’d maybe even make finals, but apparently we were subject to another judge at Grand Nats this year that was prejudiced against Jazz. It can make it hard to get back up with how much prejudice and bias plays a role in this activity. As a band we all agree our Grand Nats performances were fantastic, and so do our directors. We feel we got better from prelims to semis, but our scores reflect inversely. To a lot of us it feels like now that we have a recent history of low low 20s in final placement, the judges will never want to put us anywhere else, or let us have a breakout success. Obviously that’s not necessarily true, but it’s easy to believe that after feeling so close to finals and then ending up back in your usual 20-23rd placement. Hell, we even scored 19th in prelims, but 23rd in semis. And even an astonishing amount of people on forums were betting on 14th on the dot for us. And part of it could be exactly what this thread is talking about, our props can’t be crazy expensive because of the budget we have to work with. And our judges can be really extreme with us. We got an 18 in music effect but also a bunch of 16s and 17s. It’s hard to interpret what to do with that, because just one comp difference and the scores are entirely different. There’s very little consistency, and some people feel it’s because the judges don’t know how to judge us either. I love this activity and the people in it, but sometimes it feels like we’re working with a skewed system. I of course don’t have all the perspectives and information necessary to make fully fledged judgements about the whole, all-encompassing nature of this activity and the system that regulates it. All I have is the way it feels to operate under it as a musician, marcher, supporter, fan, and member. And one day, as an alumn.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Nov 28, 2022 5:33:21 GMT -6
I love the idea of an 'underground band town'! Like, a secret society of marching arts appreciators... I'd join! Edited to Add: Centerville, by the way, is always on my list of 'must see' groups at Grand Nats. Much love and respect for the Jazz from someone who has no connection at all... just a fan of the show style, and of 'band towns' in general. Thanks so much! And yeah it’s like there’s certain families where band has some degree of a home, and you probably know at least one of those families if you live in the area and participate in band. And it’s really nice to hear how much people enjoy our shows! In my time of band so far we don’t get much of that from anyone outside the band. The directors and parents always express their pride after a great performance, but this year our director also told us after prelims: “There is a lot of buzz about the Centerville Jazz Band right now. People are excited for you.” And it was such an unfamiliar feeling, knowing that other directors and musicians and etc we excited and entertained about us. We dedicate ourselves to a style of being our individual best and entertaining. So hearing that we have an impact on people outside of the applause in the stadium is wonderful. We once had a judge tell us nothing but “Jazz doesn’t belong on the field.” He was apparently fired for it, but it killed our season that year. We just had another season of a lot of success and hope that we’d maybe even make finals, but apparently we were subject to another judge at Grand Nats this year that was prejudiced against Jazz. It can make it hard to get back up with how much prejudice and bias plays a role in this activity. As a band we all agree our Grand Nats performances were fantastic, and so do our directors. We feel we got better from prelims to semis, but our scores reflect inversely. To a lot of us it feels like now that we have a recent history of low low 20s in final placement, the judges will never want to put us anywhere else, or let us have a breakout success. Obviously that’s not necessarily true, but it’s easy to believe that after feeling so close to finals and then ending up back in your usual 20-23rd placement. Hell, we even scored 19th in prelims, but 23rd in semis. And even an astonishing amount of people on forums were betting on 14th on the dot for us. And part of it could be exactly what this thread is talking about, our props can’t be crazy expensive because of the budget we have to work with. And our judges can be really extreme with us. We got an 18 in music effect but also a bunch of 16s and 17s. It’s hard to interpret what to do with that, because just one comp difference and the scores are entirely different. There’s very little consistency, and some people feel it’s because the judges don’t know how to judge us either. I love this activity and the people in it, but sometimes it feels like we’re working with a skewed system. I of course don’t have all the perspectives and information necessary to make fully fledged judgements about the whole, all-encompassing nature of this activity and the system that regulates it. All I have is the way it feels to operate under it as a musician, marcher, supporter, fan, and member. And one day, as an alumn. I think you have to put some things into perspective a little bit. The competitive arena at Grand Nationals is astonishingly strong these days. There are simply a ton a finalist caliber bands at Grand Nationals in this era, even in a year like 2022 when several of the Texas heavy hitters did not attend. I think the Centerville Jazz band is as strong as ever. I would not focus too much on placement in Semi Finals. Your performance made a huge impact in a very big arena. There are many bands out there that wish they were of the caliber to make Grand National Semi Finals. Having been to or watched Grand Nationals for 35 years, I feel that the Semi Finals is now like watching an extended Finals show. There are just so many strong bands. Since the inception of the Semi Finals format, Centerville has been in semi finals every year except one. That is amazing. Centerville is also one of just two bands (Marian Catholic being the other) that have participating in Grand Nationals every single year since 1984 and every year they are consistently on peoples must watch list. The reason is because they focus as much on entertaining the audience as they do with their scores and the audience appreciates that. I also think the Centerville Jazz band has made an enormous contribution to Bands of America. Dr. Tim once described them as the desert in Grand National Finals. That is how I see Centerville in Semi Finals today. It is no surprise that the Centerville community rallies around this band. Of course, they have also been a strong band for generations, decades before BOA even existed. As far as the judging, I feel that there were so many bands in competition that the judges had to get pretty picky. I think the performance level of the bands in the 7th through 25th position this year was much narrower than in the past, one reason I think for a lot of bouncing around of the ordinals from Prelims to Semis. That said, yes I kind of thought you guys should have placed in the top 20. If a past comment from a judge that jazz does not belong on the field is true (got to be careful about rumors), then that judge does not know history very well. Going back to the 1970s in DCI, the Blue Devils proved how exciting jazz can be on the field. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, marching bands typically performed a 'concert piece' in their show, which was mostly a period when the band stood still and cut loose so to speak. If you look back on the vintage video thread, you will see some very well known bands perform jazz in this setting. Rocky Mount was known for having a killer jazz piece during their show. In the early 1980s, Wayne Markworth (legendary director of Centerville at the time) decided to have the marching band perform an all jazz repertoire. It transformed the Centerville Elks marching band into the Centerville Jazz Band. Back then, I think most bands opted to use jazz for just their concert piece because there was a belief that jazz would be a hard genre to write drill for and march to and let's face it, jazz is not an easy genre to perfect on the field. Back in those days most marching bands felt they needed to perform multiple genres as well (an overture, jazz or other up temp piece, killer percussion feature and ballad were the norm). In 1984, Centerville made their debut at Grand Nationals with their all jazz repertoire, made finals and landed in 6th place. The crowd also loved it. Of course in 1992, the crowd went nuts for Centerville with their Tower of Power show which to this day is the only show to bring the state of Ohio a Grand National title. What also became interesting with Centerville is that they have performed so many different styles of jazz throughout their history and have introduced so many people to jazz. I for one am already looking forward to the Centerville Jazz Band's 2023 show. My advice to all member of the Centerville Jazz Band would be to keep doing what you are doing. Your hard work is paying off as many of us are loving your performances. Trust me, in 10,20,30 years from now, you won't remember how your band placed in Semi Finals. What you will remember is performing in front of the Grand National Semi Finals crowd and seeing them cheer for you, getting that adrenalin rush and knowing how much all that hard work you put into band was worth every moment.
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Post by saxeshead on Nov 30, 2022 23:34:30 GMT -6
Thanks so much! And yeah it’s like there’s certain families where band has some degree of a home, and you probably know at least one of those families if you live in the area and participate in band. And it’s really nice to hear how much people enjoy our shows! In my time of band so far we don’t get much of that from anyone outside the band. The directors and parents always express their pride after a great performance, but this year our director also told us after prelims: “There is a lot of buzz about the Centerville Jazz Band right now. People are excited for you.” And it was such an unfamiliar feeling, knowing that other directors and musicians and etc we excited and entertained about us. We dedicate ourselves to a style of being our individual best and entertaining. So hearing that we have an impact on people outside of the applause in the stadium is wonderful. We once had a judge tell us nothing but “Jazz doesn’t belong on the field.” He was apparently fired for it, but it killed our season that year. We just had another season of a lot of success and hope that we’d maybe even make finals, but apparently we were subject to another judge at Grand Nats this year that was prejudiced against Jazz. It can make it hard to get back up with how much prejudice and bias plays a role in this activity. As a band we all agree our Grand Nats performances were fantastic, and so do our directors. We feel we got better from prelims to semis, but our scores reflect inversely. To a lot of us it feels like now that we have a recent history of low low 20s in final placement, the judges will never want to put us anywhere else, or let us have a breakout success. Obviously that’s not necessarily true, but it’s easy to believe that after feeling so close to finals and then ending up back in your usual 20-23rd placement. Hell, we even scored 19th in prelims, but 23rd in semis. And even an astonishing amount of people on forums were betting on 14th on the dot for us. And part of it could be exactly what this thread is talking about, our props can’t be crazy expensive because of the budget we have to work with. And our judges can be really extreme with us. We got an 18 in music effect but also a bunch of 16s and 17s. It’s hard to interpret what to do with that, because just one comp difference and the scores are entirely different. There’s very little consistency, and some people feel it’s because the judges don’t know how to judge us either. I love this activity and the people in it, but sometimes it feels like we’re working with a skewed system. I of course don’t have all the perspectives and information necessary to make fully fledged judgements about the whole, all-encompassing nature of this activity and the system that regulates it. All I have is the way it feels to operate under it as a musician, marcher, supporter, fan, and member. And one day, as an alumn. I think you have to put some things into perspective a little bit. The competitive arena at Grand Nationals is astonishingly strong these days. There are simply a ton a finalist caliber bands at Grand Nationals in this era, even in a year like 2022 when several of the Texas heavy hitters did not attend. I think the Centerville Jazz band is as strong as ever. I would not focus too much on placement in Semi Finals. Your performance made a huge impact in a very big arena. There are many bands out there that wish they were of the caliber to make Grand National Semi Finals. Having been to or watched Grand Nationals for 35 years, I feel that the Semi Finals is now like watching an extended Finals show. There are just so many strong bands. Since the inception of the Semi Finals format, Centerville has been in semi finals every year except one. That is amazing. Centerville is also one of just two bands (Marian Catholic being the other) that have participating in Grand Nationals every single year since 1984 and every year they are consistently on peoples must watch list. The reason is because they focus as much on entertaining the audience as they do with their scores and the audience appreciates that. I also think the Centerville Jazz band has made an enormous contribution to Bands of America. Dr. Tim once described them as the desert in Grand National Finals. That is how I see Centerville in Semi Finals today. It is no surprise that the Centerville community rallies around this band. Of course, they have also been a strong band for generations, decades before BOA even existed. As far as the judging, I feel that there were so many bands in competition that the judges had to get pretty picky. I think the performance level of the bands in the 7th through 25th position this year was much narrower than in the past, one reason I think for a lot of bouncing around of the ordinals from Prelims to Semis. That said, yes I kind of thought you guys should have placed in the top 20. If a past comment from a judge that jazz does not belong on the field is true (got to be careful about rumors), then that judge does not know history very well. Going back to the 1970s in DCI, the Blue Devils proved how exciting jazz can be on the field. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, marching bands typically performed a 'concert piece' in their show, which was mostly a period when the band stood still and cut loose so to speak. If you look back on the vintage video thread, you will see some very well known bands perform jazz in this setting. Rocky Mount was known for having a killer jazz piece during their show. In the early 1980s, Wayne Markworth (legendary director of Centerville at the time) decided to have the marching band perform an all jazz repertoire. It transformed the Centerville Elks marching band into the Centerville Jazz Band. Back then, I think most bands opted to use jazz for just their concert piece because there was a belief that jazz would be a hard genre to write drill for and march to and let's face it, jazz is not an easy genre to perfect on the field. Back in those days most marching bands felt they needed to perform multiple genres as well (an overture, jazz or other up temp piece, killer percussion feature and ballad were the norm). In 1984, Centerville made their debut at Grand Nationals with their all jazz repertoire, made finals and landed in 6th place. The crowd also loved it. Of course in 1992, the crowd went nuts for Centerville with their Tower of Power show which to this day is the only show to bring the state of Ohio a Grand National title. What also became interesting with Centerville is that they have performed so many different styles of jazz throughout their history and have introduced so many people to jazz. I for one am already looking forward to the Centerville Jazz Band's 2023 show. My advice to all member of the Centerville Jazz Band would be to keep doing what you are doing. Your hard work is paying off as many of us are loving your performances. Trust me, in 10,20,30 years from now, you won't remember how your band placed in Semi Finals. What you will remember is performing in front of the Grand National Semi Finals crowd and seeing them cheer for you, getting that adrenalin rush and knowing how much all that hard work you put into band was worth every moment. Coming back to this post now a few days later I totally agree with you on what I got wrong in what I said. I think I let the letdown of not making finals after so much hype get to me as I wrote more. And I agree, the finals repertoire is stacked with amazing bands that deserve the credit they get 100%. I haven’t ventured outside my own band too much into the wider community so I’m a little oblivious to how other bands perceive Cville, so that’s my mistake. But it’s really nice to hear how much people enjoy our shows, and hear how much other people know about our history. Wayne still shows up to practices every now and then to help with music, especially helping develop the perfect Centerville shout chorus. He even subbed in for my jazz band director last year. In terms of that judge, I think the story of “Jazz doesn’t belong in the field” is actually true, I have a pretty reliable source on it in the band family, but of course there’s definitely stuff I don’t know about the wider story. But also thank you so much for the history lesson about jazz in marching band, I actually didn’t know like 90% of that, and I love marching band history. I’m really excited for our next show too, and I’m glad so many more people know and love what we do that I ever knew. I’m sorry again for the extra drama in my previous post. My mind is a little clearer now and I loved reading your post and hearing my band’s name spoken so positively somewhere that isn’t around CHS. I’ll make sure we give you all another great show next year.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Dec 1, 2022 18:33:51 GMT -6
Although we are going off on a bit of a tangent, I totally understand the disappointment that some of the bands in the top half of semi finals who did not make finals must feel. I have no doubt these band members like saxeshead put in a ton of work this season. I mean they all had such strong performances. Like I said, semi finals these days is like one big extended finals show. saxeshead if you have not already done so, I encourage you to look through the vintage video thread to watch all of the old Centerville videos I posted. Yes, the 2000s will be forthcoming. My favorite Centerville shows from the 80s and 90s are 1984, 1987, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999. Also, in addition to the Rocky Mount NC GN champion perfornces which featured jazz during their concert piece, in the 1990s, Kiski Area did a lot of all jazz shows that were very good (they came in 2nd at GN with their 1994 jazz show). In fact, when I heard some of the amazing jazz performances in more recent years, particularly the soloists, I still get flashbacks to vintage Centerville and Kiski.
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Post by saxeshead on Dec 2, 2022 22:33:39 GMT -6
Although we are going off on a bit of a tangent, I totally understand the disappointment that some of the bands in the top half of semi finals who did not make finals must feel. I have no doubt these band members like saxeshead put in a ton of work this season. I mean they all had such strong performances. Like I said, semi finals these days is like one big extended finals show. saxeshead if you have not already done so, I encourage you to look through the vintage video thread to watch all of the old Centerville videos I posted. Yes, the 2000s will be forthcoming. My favorite Centerville shows from the 80s and 90s are 1984, 1987, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999. Also, in addition to the Rocky Mount NC GN champion perfornces which featured jazz during their concert piece, in the 1990s, Kiski Area did a lot of all jazz shows that were very good (they came in 2nd at GN with their 1994 jazz show). In fact, when I heard some of the amazing jazz performances in more recent years, particularly the soloists, I still get flashbacks to vintage Centerville and Kiski. I love looking up old Centerville shows, although I’m ashamed to say haven’t seen much of our 80s performances and only a few of the 90s. And I remember hearing a bit about Kiski this year, some other saxes were talking about them having a comeback. But it’s actually really cool to hear about another band performing jazz centric shows. I remember Tarpon having a Miles Davis jazz segment in their show, and it roused a small chuckle in the Centerville section at Grand Nats, since that’s basically everything we do. Plus the Jazz piece in our show this year was a Miles Davis piece. But yeah when it comes to semis bands it’s definitely a difficult group to narrow down for finals. And, especially when equipped with misinformation and a misunderstanding of BOA and the judges, it’s easy to not only feel disappointed but to point blame and cry injustice (like I did in that second post!). One of the most important things to remember for everyone in the activity is that the judges only see the product, not the process. Our director reminds us of that a lot and I’m sure plenty of other people have heard it before. I think the overall end of season disappointment with placement that some people get would cause a great deal of burn out were it not the end of the competitive season for most bands. Generally any winter activities that band kids transition into after the fall, like WGI, are different enough in many ways that the burnout doesn’t carry over (although I could totally biased since I’m about to start my first season of winter drumline and I’m told we place way better in WGI than in BOA). At the end of the day though I don’t regret any of it, and I’m more than proud to be a part of such an iconic, influential, entertaining, and amazing band. And I couldn’t be more grateful to be lucky enough to take part in such a fantastic and esteemed music education program. Oh also, I’ve compiled a list of all the Centerville show names and their years from present day all the way back to 1990. I plan to tack on the 80s eventually but I’m missing a couple years from the 90s. If anyone could help me find them, I’m only missing ‘91 and ‘96. Much appreciated if you can help! I can also post the list somewhere if anyone’s curious. I’m working on attaching links to a video of each show as well.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Dec 2, 2022 23:21:46 GMT -6
Although we are going off on a bit of a tangent, I totally understand the disappointment that some of the bands in the top half of semi finals who did not make finals must feel. I have no doubt these band members like saxeshead put in a ton of work this season. I mean they all had such strong performances. Like I said, semi finals these days is like one big extended finals show. saxeshead if you have not already done so, I encourage you to look through the vintage video thread to watch all of the old Centerville videos I posted. Yes, the 2000s will be forthcoming. My favorite Centerville shows from the 80s and 90s are 1984, 1987, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999. Also, in addition to the Rocky Mount NC GN champion perfornces which featured jazz during their concert piece, in the 1990s, Kiski Area did a lot of all jazz shows that were very good (they came in 2nd at GN with their 1994 jazz show). In fact, when I heard some of the amazing jazz performances in more recent years, particularly the soloists, I still get flashbacks to vintage Centerville and Kiski. Oh also, I’ve compiled a list of all the Centerville show names and their years from present day all the way back to 1990. I plan to tack on the 80s eventually but I’m missing a couple years from the 90s. If anyone could help me find them, I’m only missing ‘91 and ‘96. Much appreciated if you can help! I can also post the list somewhere if anyone’s curious. I’m working on attaching links to a video of each show as well. A playlist of Centerville shows has 1996 but not 1991. Here.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Dec 3, 2022 4:24:39 GMT -6
I believe Centerville shows are all on YouTube going back to 1984, when they first appeared at Grand Nationals.
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Post by riot on Dec 5, 2022 9:59:36 GMT -6
Co-worker in Texas mentioned that there are certain areas that are where professional sports athletes live which inflates the number a bit as well.
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Post by paddy on Dec 6, 2022 20:15:40 GMT -6
So the Iowa HS Athletic Association has proposed adjusting enrollment numbers and thus classifications for football with a free and reduced lunch modifier. Apparently this is already done in Minnesota for football.
The formula is:
Enrollment - (.4 x (Enrollment x Free and Reduced %))
Example: A school’s enrollment for the upcoming school year is 1,000. The district’s FRL percentage is 37%.
1,000 – (0.40 x [1,000 x 0.37]) 1,000 – 0.40 x 370 1,000 – 148 New classification number: 852
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