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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 23, 2023 21:10:39 GMT -6
Final Results
1. Lakota West H.S., OH 80.150 2. Goshen H.S., IN 77.70 3. Madison Central H.S., KY 76.60 4. Westfield H.S., IN 76.30 5. Lawrence Township, IN 76.00 6. Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH 72.55 7. Miamisburg H.S., OH 71.55 8. Lindbergh H.S., MO 71.10 9. Beavercreek H.S., OH 70.70 10. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 69.95 11. Central Crossing H.S., OH 69.20 12. Dublin Coffman H.S., OH 69.15
Outstanding Music Performance: Lakota West H.S., OH Outstanding Visual Performance: Lakota West H.S., OH Outstanding General Effect: Lakota West H.S., OH
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Post by mtnxdrew on Sept 23, 2023 21:11:19 GMT -6
80. I see you Lakota West
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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 23, 2023 23:09:35 GMT -6
Finals Cutoff:
12. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 67.650 -------------------------- 13. Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 67.625 14. Fairfield H.S., OH 67.600 15. Dixie Heights H.S., KY 67.400 16. Grayson County H.S., KY 66.900
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 23, 2023 23:10:52 GMT -6
Finals Cutoff:12. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 67.650 -------------------------- 13. Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 67.625 14. Fairfield H.S., OH 67.600 15. Dixie Heights H.S., KY 67.400 16. Grayson County H.S., KY 66.900 That there is a close shave — followed by several more close shaves!
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Sept 24, 2023 0:06:21 GMT -6
Finals Cutoff:12. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 67.650 -------------------------- 13. Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 67.625 14. Fairfield H.S., OH 67.600 15. Dixie Heights H.S., KY 67.400 16. Grayson County H.S., KY 66.900 That there is a close shave — followed by several more close shaves! Only 2.1 points between 12th and 22nd place... that's 11 out of 27 bands!! 11. Dublin Coffman H.S., OH 68.200 12. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 67.650 -------------------------- 13. Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 67.625 14. Fairfield H.S., OH 67.600 15. Dixie Heights H.S., KY 67.400 16. Grayson County H.S., KY 66.900 17. LaRue County H.S., KY 66.325 18. Louisville Male H.S., KY 66.300 19. Bellbrook H.S., OH 66.225 20. Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH 66.000 21. Mars Area H.S., PA 66.575 22. Archbishop Alter H.S., OH 65.550 I can't WAIT to see these ordinals....
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 24, 2023 1:05:43 GMT -6
Prelims Results: ... Finalists:Goshen H.S., IN Central Crossing H.S., OH Beavercreek H.S., OH Lakota West H.S., OH Lawrence Township, IN Westfield H.S., IN Lindbergh H.S., MO Worthington Kilbourne H.S., OH Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI Dublin Coffman H.S., OH Madison Central H.S., KY Miamisburg H.S., OH Circumstances obliged me to arrive too late to see the day's first three bands (Heath, Hilliard Bradley, and Grayson Co.) and most of the fourth band (Fairfield), as well as to leave before the rescheduled performance of the final band (Lindbergh), but of twelve bands I expected to move to Finals out of the 22 I did see, nine actually made it in. And I had eight bands within three points on one another, including the three I wrongly predicted would make it in (Louisville Male, Archbishop Alter, Dixie Heights), and the two I wrongly predicted would not (Central Crossing, Reeths-Puffer). ( Edited to add: I just scanned the Prelims recap, and I'm pleased to see the judges agreed with me about several other points, like Beavercreek being ahead of Kilbourne -- and that they were within a point of one another.) But a bigger highlight for me on this very sunny day was... A reminder to anyone attending this event - before entering the stadium or during a competition break, stop by warmups (beyond northwest corner of bus/truck parking) and say hello. On your way from greeting me to stadium entry, stop by the band entry gate (northwest corner of the stadium) and meet Allohak . You should be able to recognize the back of both our heads from my profile picture, although my back of head thin spot is a little more pronounced now. ...having the privilege of meeting hewhowaits and Allohak . What a treat!
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Post by bandfan2002 on Sept 24, 2023 7:00:32 GMT -6
That there is a close shave — followed by several more close shaves! Only 2.1 points between 12th and 22nd place... that's 11 out of 27 bands!! 11. Dublin Coffman H.S., OH 68.200 12. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI 67.650 -------------------------- 13. Archbishop Carroll H.S., OH 67.625 14. Fairfield H.S., OH 67.600 15. Dixie Heights H.S., KY 67.400 16. Grayson County H.S., KY 66.900 17. LaRue County H.S., KY 66.325 18. Louisville Male H.S., KY 66.300 19. Bellbrook H.S., OH 66.225 20. Walter E. Stebbins H.S., OH 66.000 21. Mars Area H.S., PA 66.575 22. Archbishop Alter H.S., OH 65.550 I can't WAIT to see these ordinals.... Wow! So close! Don’t quote me, but Dixie Heights was only .25 points away from making Finals which I believe would have been their very first time. Great job all!
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Post by mtnxdrew on Sept 24, 2023 7:01:35 GMT -6
Surprised with the placement and score of Alter. Anyone have insight on this after their very successful year last year?
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Post by boahistorybuff on Sept 24, 2023 7:10:11 GMT -6
Congratulations Lakota West on regional win number 3!
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Post by boahistorybuff on Sept 24, 2023 7:26:42 GMT -6
Surprised with the placement and score of Alter. Anyone have insight on this after their very successful year last year? I am only speculating, but I wonder if they have a lot of new members. With such a small band, a big turnover can have a big impact. Seeing as it is still September, they may have a lot of new members still learning and getting accustomed to competing. Again this is just speculation here. Jackson Academy went through that in 1995.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 24, 2023 10:54:20 GMT -6
Surprised with the placement and score of Alter. Anyone have insight on this after their very successful year last year? Anti-harmonica bias.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 24, 2023 10:55:42 GMT -6
Surprised with the placement and score of Alter. Anyone have insight on this after their very successful year last year? Anti-harmonica bias. Something apparently not present in DCI. 😂
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 25, 2023 8:11:06 GMT -6
Surprised with the placement and score of Alter. Anyone have insight on this after their very successful year last year? Indigestion? This was the second show I'd seen in two weeks that featured pizza boxes as props. Meanwhile, Beavercreek's was the second show I'd seen in two weeks that was inspired by classic cartoons. (The first show in both cases was the same.)
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Post by dbalash on Sept 25, 2023 13:49:08 GMT -6
Obetz ordinals: Prelims: Finals:
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 25, 2023 14:03:01 GMT -6
Thanks for these! A general question not specific to this event: has anyone ever created (maybe somewhere else on these forums) a historical list of the instances of the greatest variance between a band's overall ranking and one of its individual caption rankings?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 25, 2023 14:20:57 GMT -6
I feel like South Point might have done a little better had they not performed between Lawrence Township and Goshen.
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Post by cheesemcdiddlesworth on Sept 25, 2023 14:27:30 GMT -6
Obetz ordinals: Prelims: Finals: Westfield prelims music ensemble. Good job for them cleaning that up for finals! Anybody have the story behind that?
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Post by lostinthebands on Sept 26, 2023 18:38:52 GMT -6
Now that’s been a few days since this regional, I’d like to give one final congratulations to everyone who performed at Obetz this year. It truly was full of surprises! With that being said, I was looking through the old scores for this regional, and thought I’d compile some of the things I learned!
Champions and their Finals Score (by year): 2023: Lakota West - 80.15, SWEEP 2022: Lakota West - 73.45 2021: Lakota West - 77.60 2019: Kiski Area - 77.45 2018: Kiski Area - 82.45 2017: Avon - 76.10, SWEEP 2016: Norwin - 70.05 2015: Kiski Area - 68.35, SWEEP 2014: Kiski Area - 74.95 2013: Norwin - 71.65, SWEEP 2012: Norwin - 75.25, SWEEP 2011: Norwin - 76.20, SWEEP 2010: Kiski Area - 72.90
A few things I noticed: -Lakota West now has the highest score for this early season regional, with an 80.15. Technically, Kiski Area and Norwin earned an 82.45 and 82.00 in 2018, but the regional was held in the middle of October. For consistencies sake, this was the only time this regional was held in the middle of the season, so I will keep it separate from certain stats. -This regional has also seen two groups win 3 years in a row: Lakota West (21, 22, 23) and Norwin (11, 12, 13). Interesting how they both ended up being 10 years apart. No band has ever won 4+ times in a row. -Of the 13 years this regional has existed, Norwin has won 4 times total, Kiski Area 5 times, Avon 1 time, and Lakota West 3 times. 6 of these champions saw caption sweeps: Norwin swept 3 times, Avon 1 time, Kiski 1 time, and Lakota West 1 time. -The highest amount of states represented at this regional was in 2015, when 7 states were represented. -Finally, the year with the highest attendance rate was 2023, with 27 bands attending. Earlier in the year, the event had 31 bands and was overfilled, causing some to travel to the Kentucky Regional/Toledo Regional or drop entirely. -On top of that, 2023 had the highest last-place finalist score the regional has ever seen, with 69.15. The moral of the story here is that the 2023 Columbus Regional broke a lot of records for this competition!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 27, 2023 15:11:11 GMT -6
Also I hope Norton tells BOA that the lyricist of "My Funny Valentine" is "Lorenz Hart" not "Hart Lorenz". After all, they don't list the composer as "Rodgers Richard." (In high school, I had a chorus part in Babes in Arms, which is also the source of "Johnny One Note," "Where or When," "I Wish I Were in Love Again," and "The Lady Is a Tramp.") Brad Bell really did announce the lyricist's name as "Hart Lorenz" during Prelims, by the way. I rather wish Norton had included a song with words by "Hammerstein Oscar."
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Post by Allohak on Sept 27, 2023 18:12:52 GMT -6
Also I hope Norton tells BOA that the lyricist of "My Funny Valentine" is "Lorenz Hart" not "Hart Lorenz". After all, they don't list the composer as "Rodgers Richard." (In high school, I had a chorus part in Babes in Arms, which is also the source of "Johnny One Note," "Where or When," "I Wish I Were in Love Again," and "The Lady Is a Tramp.") Brad Bell really did announce the lyricist's name as "Hart Lorenz" during Prelims, by the way. I rather wish Norton had included a song with words by "Hammerstein Oscar." He's reading a script given to him by the band, fwiw
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Sept 27, 2023 18:22:58 GMT -6
Brad Bell really did announce the lyricist's name as "Hart Lorenz" during Prelims, by the way. I rather wish Norton had included a song with words by "Hammerstein Oscar." He's reading a script given to him by the band, fwiw Oh I know. That's why I pointed out here before the competition that Norton had gotten the name backwards. I'm just saying that Brad Bell ought to be availing himself of this fine forum as a resource so he can avoid being tripped up like this. (Mind you, I think the name "Lorenz Hart" ought to be common knowledge in musical circles that Bell could have caught the error on his own. Amusingly, I just yesterday read some comments on a book by Stephen Sondheim that criticizes Hart for lyrics in this very song.)
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 27, 2023 18:35:42 GMT -6
"Hart Lorenz" instead of "Lorenz Hart" will never match the local event when my kids were in high school where Mason's show included the music of "Shuh-STOCK-uh-vitch."
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