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Post by bigblue2019 on May 8, 2023 16:42:21 GMT -6
If memory serves me correctly, it used to start at 11am. But northern and southern bands complained because, ya know they needed more practice time, and they had to be up in the middle of the night...blah blah blah. So they changed it too 1pm to 7pm so bands could practice early on, and still get home at a reasonable time.
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Post by Marching Observer on May 8, 2023 20:50:43 GMT -6
ISSMA is not making any allowances this year in regards to Semi-State at last check. Homestead (I know for sure), Goshen, and Castle (fairly positive on the last two) each requested if they could perform earlier at semis and were denied. There has also been no discussion on changing the starting time either. Hence why you're seeing groups like Homestead and others not trying to do both.
Could this still change as we get closer? I suppose. But real talk. This is ISSMA. Anyone honestly believe they'd budge on this?
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Post by 70sguardchick on May 9, 2023 7:45:53 GMT -6
ISSMA is not making any allowances this year in regards to Semi-State at last check. Homestead (I know for sure), Goshen, and Castle (fairly positive on the last two) each requested if they could perform earlier at semis and were denied. There has also been no discussion on changing the starting time either. Hence why you're seeing groups like Homestead and others not trying to do both. Could this still change as we get closer? I suppose. But real talk. This is ISSMA. Anyone honestly believe they'd budge on this? I know I'm a stubborn optimist, but I keep hoping that the Spring Board meeting on the 16th will bring some sort of movement from ISSMA....all past evidence to the contrary.....
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Post by ILFollower on May 10, 2023 21:35:16 GMT -6
Confirmed
Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (band calendar)
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Post by yayband914 on May 10, 2023 21:37:09 GMT -6
Confirmed Lincoln-Way H.S., IL (band calendar) They were already on the list.
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Post by suburbanbandfan on May 14, 2023 22:19:20 GMT -6
Confirmed: Minooka Community HS, IL- Band Calendar
I believe this will be there first BOA appearance!
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Post by dbalash on May 15, 2023 14:08:53 GMT -6
Confirmed: Minooka Community HS, IL- Band Calendar I believe this will be there first BOA appearance! Two first time Illinois groups this year in DeKalb (who still say they're going to BOA STL on 10/21, but I digress), and Minooka. Wonder if we'll get a third first-time group going somewhere? Anyways, here's Minooka's show from last year.
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Post by suburbanbandfan on May 15, 2023 23:41:30 GMT -6
Confirmed: Minooka Community HS, IL- Band Calendar I believe this will be there first BOA appearance! Two first time Illinois groups this year in DeKalb (who still say they're going to BOA STL on 10/21, but I digress), and Minooka. Wonder if we'll get a third first-time group going somewhere? Anyways, here's Minooka's show from last year. They might be the largest band in IL. Minooka is longer over due for BOA. We need more first timers like Eisenhower, Hersey, Oswego!
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 18, 2023 17:41:20 GMT -6
Beavercreek (OH) calendar just came out
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Post by bandmom2 on May 19, 2023 20:31:47 GMT -6
Homestead is also out for BOA regionals this season. Timing is all messed up with them hosting their invitational and Semi-State being the same date as Indy Super. Source: source. Some of the Homestead guys can back me up on this. This is accurate. Homestead is only going to GN. These other IN bands that are attempting to do both SR and semi-state are counting on ISSMA to give them an early slot and for BOA to give them Friday prelim slots plus late finals slots. Not sure both organizations will/should be bending over backward for some IN bands and not others, if it is true that Homestead, Goshen and another band were denied a scheduling request by ISSMA. It could get messy.
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Post by paddy on May 20, 2023 6:06:11 GMT -6
Homestead is also out for BOA regionals this season. Timing is all messed up with them hosting their invitational and Semi-State being the same date as Indy Super. Source: source. Some of the Homestead guys can back me up on this. This is accurate. Homestead is only going to GN. These other IN bands that are attempting to do both SR and semi-state are counting on ISSMA to give them an early slot and for BOA to give them Friday prelim slots plus late finals slots. Not sure both organizations will/should be bending over backward for some IN bands and not others, if it is true that Homestead, Goshen and another band were denied a scheduling request by ISSMA. It could get messy. It depends on what the scheduling request was. Of course there is only so much room in the schedule. In Class A you have at least Carmel, Avon, Fishers, Brownsburg, Homestead, Castle, Goshen, and Center Grove who will want special consideration. That’s 8 bands which only allows for so much rescheduling.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 20, 2023 8:08:32 GMT -6
Homestead is also out for BOA regionals this season. Timing is all messed up with them hosting their invitational and Semi-State being the same date as Indy Super. Source: source. Some of the Homestead guys can back me up on this. This is accurate. Homestead is only going to GN. These other IN bands that are attempting to do both SR and semi-state are counting on ISSMA to give them an early slot and for BOA to give them Friday prelim slots plus late finals slots. Not sure both organizations will/should be bending over backward for some IN bands and not others, if it is true that Homestead, Goshen and another band were denied a scheduling request by ISSMA. It could get messy. The thing is, the Indy area bands don't need to make special requests to ISSMA. By rule they will go on in earlier blocks due to their proximity tp Ben Davis. The bands at risk are the North bands and Castle, since their geography places them in late blocks. Castle especially, as they are pretty much guaranteed the last block. So with regards to Castle I'm not sure how they'll pull this off unless they're in the last half of Indy Super finals.
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Post by yayband914 on May 20, 2023 10:32:29 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Kettering Fairmont H.S., OH (show reveal video)
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Post by indyguy8362 on May 20, 2023 10:42:17 GMT -6
This is accurate. Homestead is only going to GN. These other IN bands that are attempting to do both SR and semi-state are counting on ISSMA to give them an early slot and for BOA to give them Friday prelim slots plus late finals slots. Not sure both organizations will/should be bending over backward for some IN bands and not others, if it is true that Homestead, Goshen and another band were denied a scheduling request by ISSMA. It could get messy. The thing is, the Indy area bands don't need to make special requests to ISSMA. By rule they will go on in earlier blocks due to their proximity tp Ben Davis. The bands at risk are the North bands and Castle, since their geography places them in late blocks. Castle especially, as they are pretty much guaranteed the last block. So with regards to Castle I'm not sure how they'll pull this off unless they're in the last half of Indy Super finals. Very true, Castle really needs to bank on issma being flexible because personally my bets are not on castle for top half for finals. Also they would need to get fairly lucky on their draw time, because if they go first-fourthish i don’t think they could get into downtown on a saturday night.
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Post by redteam1114 on May 22, 2023 16:41:44 GMT -6
Confirmed: Lincoln H.S., SD (Source: Trust Me) Now officially confirmed via band website!
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Post by paddy on May 22, 2023 22:18:28 GMT -6
This is accurate. Homestead is only going to GN. These other IN bands that are attempting to do both SR and semi-state are counting on ISSMA to give them an early slot and for BOA to give them Friday prelim slots plus late finals slots. Not sure both organizations will/should be bending over backward for some IN bands and not others, if it is true that Homestead, Goshen and another band were denied a scheduling request by ISSMA. It could get messy. The thing is, the Indy area bands don't need to make special requests to ISSMA. By rule they will go on in earlier blocks due to their proximity tp Ben Davis. The bands at risk are the North bands and Castle, since their geography places them in late blocks. Castle especially, as they are pretty much guaranteed the last block. So with regards to Castle I'm not sure how they'll pull this off unless they're in the last half of Indy Super finals. Technically the odds of a band going in an earlier block are higher the closer they are to Ben Davis. Fishers stepped off at 5:15 last year or 15/20 and behind at least 5 bands farther away from Ben Davis. To make the first spot at finals (7 pm) a band is in the lot around 5. If they are transiting from Ben Davis, they are leaving around 430, which means they need to start loading around 330. To accomplish that they have to perform in the first 10 (assuming no schedule changes). As I pointed out up thread there are at least 8 bands who will want to insure they are in the first 10. There is only so much special requests and rescheduling that can happen in that scenario.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2023 5:03:28 GMT -6
The thing is, the Indy area bands don't need to make special requests to ISSMA. By rule they will go on in earlier blocks due to their proximity tp Ben Davis. The bands at risk are the North bands and Castle, since their geography places them in late blocks. Castle especially, as they are pretty much guaranteed the last block. So with regards to Castle I'm not sure how they'll pull this off unless they're in the last half of Indy Super finals. Technically the odds of a band going in an earlier block are higher the closer they are to Ben Davis. Fishers stepped off at 5:15 last year or 15/20 and behind at least 5 bands farther away from Ben Davis. To make the first spot at finals (7 pm) a band is in the lot around 6. If they are transiting from Ben Davis, they are leaving around 530, which means they need to start loading around 430. To accomplish that they have to perform in the first 10 (assuming no schedule changes). As I pointed out up thread there are at least 8 bands who will want to insure they are in the first 10. There is only so much special requests and rescheduling that can happen in that scenario. Your premise is certainly correct, but your example is off by an hour. A band that performs at 7:00 p.m. would be entering LOS at 5:55 so they need to be in the lot no later than 5:00. Indy SR on the same day as ISSMA Semi-State is a scenario which should have been avoided.
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Post by paddy on May 23, 2023 6:47:07 GMT -6
Technically the odds of a band going in an earlier block are higher the closer they are to Ben Davis. Fishers stepped off at 5:15 last year or 15/20 and behind at least 5 bands farther away from Ben Davis. To make the first spot at finals (7 pm) a band is in the lot around 6. If they are transiting from Ben Davis, they are leaving around 530, which means they need to start loading around 430. To accomplish that they have to perform in the first 10 (assuming no schedule changes). As I pointed out up thread there are at least 8 bands who will want to insure they are in the first 10. There is only so much special requests and rescheduling that can happen in that scenario. Your premise is certainly correct, but your example is off by an hour. A band that performs at 7:00 p.m. would be entering LOS at 5:55 so they need to be in the lot no later than 5:00. Indy SR on the same day as ISSMA Semi-State is a scenario which should have been avoided.Ah yes. Enter lot 2 hours out, top of tunnel 1 hour out. That's what I get for late night posting while relying on memory...and the bolded part is so true.
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Post by bigtrombone on May 23, 2023 10:28:10 GMT -6
The Oklahoma Invasion continues.
Confirmed: Union H.S., OK (Band Website) Southmoore H.S., OK (Band Calendar)
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Post by coleeich on May 23, 2023 16:33:23 GMT -6
I am LIVING for this Oklahoma invasion! Maybe I should hop on the bandwagon and head to Indy that weekend too...
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Post by allthingschaotic on May 23, 2023 17:43:55 GMT -6
The Oklahoma Invasion continues. Confirmed: Union H.S., OK (Band Website) Southmoore H.S., OK (Band Calendar) I am convinced that the Oklahoma band directors are colluding to wreak havoc in other states to force MFA to create BOA Broken Arrow Oklahoma.
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Post by yayband914 on May 23, 2023 17:47:40 GMT -6
The Oklahoma Invasion continues. Confirmed: Union H.S., OK (Band Website) Southmoore H.S., OK (Band Calendar) I am convinced that the Oklahoma band directors are colluding to wreak havoc in other states to force MFA to create BOA Broken Arrow Oklahoma. Spittin’ straight facts.
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Post by macwinlin on May 24, 2023 0:51:55 GMT -6
The Oklahoma Invasion continues. Confirmed: Union H.S., OK (Band Website) Southmoore H.S., OK (Band Calendar) I am convinced that the Oklahoma band directors are colluding to wreak havoc in other states to force MFA to create BOA Broken Arrow Oklahoma. It’s certainly time to consider that. The BA, Owasso, and Union contests always draw multiple groups from AR, MO, and TX. Maybe the “BOA affiliate” is indicative of their future intentions, but I’m worried about it because of the BA contest’s attendance the last several years. We’ll see! I wonder how much Oklahoma bands save attending this SR vs GN, because I would think the GN experience would be high on the list of considerations.
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Post by neop on May 25, 2023 22:21:00 GMT -6
Confirmed: Northmont H.S., OH (band calendar)
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Post by coleeich on Jun 1, 2023 21:01:02 GMT -6
Oklahoma Band #6 Confirmed!
Deer Creek H.S., OK
Source: band calendar
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 1, 2023 22:51:08 GMT -6
Drop:
Franklin H.S., TN - (Johnson City)
Source: FHS Band Calendar
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Post by dbalash on Jun 8, 2023 7:31:28 GMT -6
Confirmed:
DeKalb, IL (Switched from St. Louis)
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Post by coleeich on Jun 12, 2023 20:54:25 GMT -6
Way-too-early-prediction because I am way too excited for band season to start:
1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Carmel H.S., IN 3. William Mason H.S., OH 4. Bixby H.S., OK 5. Fishers H.S., IN 6. Brownsburg H.S., IN 7. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 8. Lincoln H.S., SD 9. Castle H.S, IN 10. Southmoore H.S., OK 11. Grain Valley H.S., MO 12. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 13. Deer Creek H.S., OK 14. Yukon H.S., OK
Bubble bands Union H.S., OK Choctaw H.S., OK Lakota West H.S., OH Center Grove H.S., IN
Tight competion this year!
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Post by principalagent on Jun 12, 2023 23:00:16 GMT -6
Only five Indiana bands in their hometown Super is kind of bold even with Homestead gone!
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Post by macwinlin on Jun 13, 2023 0:33:28 GMT -6
Way-too-early-prediction because I am way too excited for band season to start: 1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Carmel H.S., IN 3. William Mason H.S., OH 4. Bixby H.S., OK 5. Fishers H.S., IN 6. Brownsburg H.S., IN 7. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 8. Lincoln H.S., SD 9. Castle H.S, IN 10. Southmoore H.S., OK 11. Grain Valley H.S., MO 12. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 13. Deer Creek H.S., OK 14. Yukon H.S., OK Bubble bands Union H.S., OK Choctaw H.S., OK Lakota West H.S., OH Center Grove H.S., IN Tight competion this year! Based on recent history, I have GV higher and Bixby lower. Bixby and Lincoln are normally very close at the STL SR. I don’t think Deer Creek will be there quite yet, but that would be awesome! I have Union as a lock as I believe they’ll begin to rebound from last season’s changes. They made it last year at this SR, and then ended their season strong, despite the lower placement at state.
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