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Post by 2baboy on Apr 1, 2019 18:22:19 GMT -6
For this thread, I wanted to see your thoughts on what was probably the greatest risks taken by bands, indoor groups, or Drum Corps and defined the era of the marching arts while leaving behind a mark on your perspective of band or in the marching arts. This could range from props all the way to design or simple technical things that changed the game. I always found it interesting hearing others' opinions on topics like these when things change or a group takes a risk. Whether it was something you liked, disliked, or something that became a trend today, what was something that wowed you, left an impact on you, or impacted the marching arts community that made it what it is today.
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Post by thewho on Apr 3, 2019 9:00:33 GMT -6
I'm way too busy, so I don't have any actual substance or nuances at this point other than general summaries.
All these shows are post-00, as that's my general reference frame. I do not know the '90s as much.
Lawrence Central 2001-2004: Put out terrific shows that helped refine the definition of "how" to move individually and drill-wise. Also understood how powerful synergy from choice of musical pieces were.
Avon 2008-present: The true definition of all-around excellence in every caption, and how to present as one package to judges.
PCEP 1998-2001: Show design and music performance was their forte during the peak years.
Ronald Reagan 2002-2005: Some of the most unorthodox show designs at the time that just worked. Unique branding that many of us haven't really quite understood today.
LD Bell 2005-2011: The ascension of Wes Cartwright, introducing the greatest (and only) trilogy of shows the pageantry have ever seen- more so, each one being influential on their own.
Tarpon Springs 2008-present: The highest peak of true original music (specifically Frank Sullivan, 2008). Furthermore, prop design and set-up and how it can elevate GE before many bands got to that point.
Broken Arrow 2010-2017: The boost in show design during these times originated from the visual side of show design (drill and individual movements), and further emphasized full-field spectacles.
Marcus 2007, 2010, 2012: Marcus was THE music band by far. Everything they did revolved around how well they played and put out such a distinct style meanwhile. The Hebron before Hebron.
Upcoming (I don't think the legacies are established quite yet to fully understand how much impact they had on the scene):
CTJ 2014-present: A second coming of Avon without being Avon- terrific all-rounder, but perhaps pushing the limits in every caption beyond Avon's peaks.
Hebron 2015-present: Modern-day definition of THE music in every single music caption- music performance, music GE, music choice, etc.
Carmel 2016-present: Some of the most creative show designs of this era- shows that move through their respective themes with grace and careful thoughtfulness.
Blue Springs 2018: The birth of a new style- one that focuses more on communicating to the audience through choreography rather than drill.
There's more I didn't mention like Flower Mound and Marian Catholic (in the late '00s-early '10s), but those were the few that were off the top of my head.
I'll come back to this (which probably means, I'll forget about this in a few month's time...).
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 3, 2019 10:51:38 GMT -6
It's so interesting how things change over the years. How Marcus was the Texas band known for music back in the day, and now it's more Hebron and Vandegrift. Outside of Texas, it's the same with Carmel. They have always been great, but in the last few years they have become nearly unbeatable musically and with show design. I can't wait to see what Carmel and Avon produce this year, and I am anxious to see both of them live again for the first time in a few years! I intend to become way more educated on what makes Carmel so fantastic because they can come across rather simplistic to the mere "mortal" eye, but if you have a far more genius mind and eye, you can see and hear what it is that makes Carmel really stand out. I can't wait to see more of that for myself!
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Post by boahistorybuff on Apr 3, 2019 17:34:16 GMT -6
Just a few that come to mind at the moment in drum corps:
1980 Santa Clara Vanguard did a segment of asymmetrical drill, probably why they got 7th at the DCI championships.
1981 the Blue Devils guard shed their military attire for more artistically designed outfits.
1992 Cavaliers took drill design to a whole new level.
1993 Star of Indiana showed new ways of body movement among the brass in a highly difficult and innovative show.
2005 and 2006 Cadets took amplified vocals and theatrics to a whole new level.
2016 Bluecoats completely shed the military elements of their uniforms and had interesting interactions with their props.
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Post by oboe12 on Apr 4, 2019 12:32:18 GMT -6
Star 91 has always been said to be one of the most revolutionary DCI shows of all time.
As for WGI - maybe not revolutionary, but nothing is more legendary than Northmont '97.
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Post by SpartanMarcher on Apr 4, 2019 15:49:55 GMT -6
Star 91 has always been said to be one of the most revolutionary DCI shows of all time. As for WGI - maybe not revolutionary, but nothing is more legendary than Northmont '97. I think you might mean Star ‘93? |
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Post by thewho on Apr 4, 2019 16:50:12 GMT -6
Star 91 has always been said to be one of the most revolutionary DCI shows of all time. As for WGI - maybe not revolutionary, but nothing is more legendary than Northmont '97. I think you might mean Star ‘93? Why not both? |
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Post by SpartanMarcher on Apr 4, 2019 22:20:27 GMT -6
That’s a very good point. I enjoy Star ‘91 more anyway!
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Post by boahistorybuff on Apr 5, 2019 5:51:52 GMT -6
Most of the DCI gurus I have read describe Star's 93 performance as one of the most influential DCI shows of all time. I have also read that many thought it was 10 years ahead its time.
That said, Star 1991 'Roman Images' was also pretty revolutionary. The closing few drill segments with the transitions into the crosses was pretty cool.
Of all the old drum corps that are no longer in existence, Star of Indiana is the one I miss the most.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Apr 6, 2019 5:41:38 GMT -6
Some of the Innovators in BOA.
Electronics in the pit:
Northrop; 83 and 84.
Centerville; 80s
Westerville South; 88
Plymouth Canton; 90s
Props:
Chesterton; 84
Norwin; 89 and 90
Flushing; 91
Jackson Academy; 93
Tarpon Springs; 97 to present
Tarps:
Jackson Academy; 93
Center Grove; late 90s
Tarpon Springs; 98 and 00s
OFallon Twp 2018
Amplified Vocals:
Plymouth Canton; 90s
Lake Park; 93
Cedar Ridge; 2013
A Few Select GN Finals Shows that I Think Were Highly Innovative
Danville 81
Rocky Mount 81
Danville 82
Chesterton 83
Chesterton 84
Rocky Mount 86
Union 86
Norwin 89
PCEP 92
PCEP 93
Jackson Academy 93
PCEP 94
Westerville South 94
Center Grove 95
PCEP 95
Westerville South 96
Center Grove 97
Tarpon Springs 97
PCEP 97
PCEP 98
Tarpon Springs 98
PCEP 99
Center Grove 99
Marian Catholic 00
PCEP 00
Union 00
Lawrence Central 01
Marian Catholic 01
PCEP 01
Carmel 02
Westfield 03
Ronald Reagan 03
Center Grove 03
Kennesaw Mountain 04
Avon 04
Tarpon Springs 05
LD Bell 06
Tarpon Springs 06
LD Bell 07
Marian Catholic 08
Broken Arrow 09
Avon 10
Broken Arrow 10
LD Bell 10
Tarpon Springs 10
Marian Catholic 11
Broken Arrow 12
Lawrence Central 13
Tarpon Springs 14
Broken Arrow 14
Marian Catholic 15
Carmel 16
CTJ 16
Carmel 17
Broken Arrow 17
Carmel 18
Blue Springs 18
Broken Arrow 18
Jenks 18
Ofallon Township 2018
I am sure I missed a few or some of different opinions.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 6, 2019 7:19:49 GMT -6
O’Fallon should probably be mentioned in some form, though I know they don’t often make finals at GN. They are however, a very innovative band and guard!
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Post by boahistorybuff on Apr 6, 2019 8:25:16 GMT -6
O’Fallon should probably be mentioned in some form, though I know they don’t often make finals at GN. They are however, a very innovative band and guard! Totally missed O'Fallon. Just added them. I figured I would miss a few. |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 6, 2019 8:48:45 GMT -6
I also want to throw Shenendehowa’s color guard into the mix. Their WGI show this season is so unique and certainly innovative. I wish everyone could see it! Maybe there will be a video on DaTube. FloMarching did put out a fascinating slo-mo video on their Facebook page this morning that gives you some idea of how cool it is. Also, the James Bowie guard has a hugely innovative show as well this season. I’m disappointed they pulled out of Worlds but understand they are saving money up for the trip to China.
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