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Post by coleeich on Nov 10, 2023 20:03:28 GMT -6
And Miamisburg!! Fantastic!
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2023 20:04:40 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):
Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Nov 10, 2023 20:04:49 GMT -6
I saw some of the commentary as I was reading on the beach (I had to toss that in there) and was pleased to see some positive response to Homestead. How confident are we that they will get into semis? That early spot (2nd band on panel 2) makes me nervous as I saw what such a spot did for them last season at the Indy Super. I'd love to watch them Saturday. Put my mind at ease. You got your wish That’s awesome. We got back home tonight. Can’t wait to watch tomorrow.
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Post by neop on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:10 GMT -6
No Center Grove, T. L. Hanna, or Rockford, wow
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:19 GMT -6
Wow, no Rockford or Center Grove. That's kind of stunning.
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:27 GMT -6
But isn't that only one 2A band from panel 1?
Edit: Never mind, ignore me.
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Post by Marching Observer on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:38 GMT -6
Bourbon County is AA this year making them and Morton the 2AA in Panel 1. They are A according to Competition Suite. Well, people need to stop giving me conflicting info 😂 I just went with the majority voice on that. But it has been pretty loud up here. Eh, doesn’t matter too much. And I’ll check back regarding performance slots and making finals since a lot has changed in how semi finals orders are done. Unless someone does it first lol
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:40 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN No Center Grove?
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 10, 2023 20:05:58 GMT -6
YES NAFO
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Post by formingquad on Nov 10, 2023 20:06:00 GMT -6
WOW INSANE
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Post by TeamIndiana on Nov 10, 2023 20:06:35 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN No Center Grove? Wow! Didn’t see that one coming!
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 10, 2023 20:06:37 GMT -6
T.L. Hanna is a big surprise for me. I really thought they'd make it in.
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Post by ohbandfan on Nov 10, 2023 20:06:48 GMT -6
No Alter either
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Post by coleeich on Nov 10, 2023 20:07:18 GMT -6
Congrats to all the bands who made semifinals! Such an awesome accomplishment. And major congrats to all the other bands who performed! Brilliant job to all!
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Post by cybrunette on Nov 10, 2023 20:07:35 GMT -6
Congrats to everyone who moved on!!! Super happy Dartmouth made it through!
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Post by indyguardmom on Nov 10, 2023 20:07:57 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN No Center Grove? Yes, no Center Grove, but yet Lawrence Township is in.... and yet they didn't even make it to semi-state ISSMA this year.
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Post by bandirectorman on Nov 10, 2023 20:08:31 GMT -6
Not shocked. Fun show but I bet visually it died right there.
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Post by bigtrombone on Nov 10, 2023 20:08:46 GMT -6
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Post by oldbandguy on Nov 10, 2023 20:09:04 GMT -6
Precisely why no one trusts or puts stock on state scoring (state championships etc)…Nation Ford who was third behind TL Hannah (the SC 4A state champion) making semifinals but not Hannah.
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Post by paddy on Nov 10, 2023 20:09:37 GMT -6
Yes, no Center Grove, but yet Lawrence Township is in.... and yet they didn't even make it to semi-state ISSMA this year. Only one legacy Indiana band is allowed in each year. Not CG’s turn.
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Post by euphpapi on Nov 10, 2023 20:10:06 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN So happy for all the bands I’m very happy with how it turned out. First time in a while where I feel like every band I wanted made it.
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Post by neop on Nov 10, 2023 20:10:15 GMT -6
They've been having a bit of a weaker year compared to last year. I am not surprised, but I am willing to bet they weren't too too far from class rep status.
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Post by came on Nov 10, 2023 20:13:43 GMT -6
Really shocked about no Rockford
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Post by altosandclarinets on Nov 10, 2023 20:14:02 GMT -6
Congratulations to the 2023 BOA Grand National Championship Semifinalists (33):Round Rock H.S., TX Bentonville H.S., AR Carmel H.S., IN Carroll H.S., IN Morton H.S., IL Nation Ford H.S., SC Bartlett H.S., TN Lawrence Township, IN Beechwood H.S., KY Lake Hamilton H.S., AR Hebron H.S., TX The Woodlands H.S., TX James Bowie H.S., TX William Mason H.S., OH Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX Dripping Springs H.S., TX Fishers H.S., IN Dartmouth H.S., MA Homestead H.S., IN Arlington H.S., TN Walled Lake H.S., MI Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI Avon H.S., IN Estill County H.S., KY Kiski Area H.S., PA Miamisburg H.S., OH Centerville H.S., OH Pearland H.S., TX Keller H.S., TX Blue Springs H.S., MO Marian Catholic H.S., IL Bourbon County H.S., KY Brownsburg H.S., IN Am I crazy or did center grove not make it? No Rockford either…
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Post by bandfanintn on Nov 10, 2023 20:14:41 GMT -6
A so far guess from me. Groups are alphabetical Final Locks (when looking at schedule, regional/super regionals and after prelims) Avon, Blue Springs, Carmel, Hebron, Mason, Woodlands Final Likely (assumption before prelims for Round Rock) Bentonville, Brownsburg, CTJ, Fishers, Keller, Pearland, Round Rock Semi Likely/Final Not sure (mostly prelims and a few regionals) Arlington, Bartlett, Beechwood, Bowie, Dripping, Carroll, Dartmouth, Estill, Homestead, TL Hanna Surprised on TL Hanna. Great list of semi-finalists. Will make sure to catch Walled Lake, Morton and Lake Hamilton this time. Fewer work calls maybe!!
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Post by regimember on Nov 10, 2023 20:15:02 GMT -6
I don't believe this one bit. I truly believe that if you're not in the Top 22 (Top 11 each day), you are largely segregated and not given a fair shot to move out of your sandbox. The prelims performance is the most important performance that most bands can give, but for semifinalist (non-top tier finalists) qualifiers, it remains the most important performance of the season. It is all determined by where you fall on the schedule on Saturday. Judges know. The world knows. And you have no shot. Every band should receive a fair shot to perform and have that particular performance judged from a clean slate. It just does not happen at BOA. That's why it's rare to see ANYONE jump out of their box, despite the wide disparity sometimes in performance level or execution. Laziness. But it does happen. A great example is James F. Byrnes last year who went from 23rd in prelims (next 8) to 14th in semis...just barely out of finals. I don't disagree that the majority of times, things stay the same, but it is possible for things to *drastically* change Yes and no. I would argue that James F. Brynes’s jump last year isn’t that drastic regarding this competition. Just because of how many groups there are, and the 3 tier performance system, the judging field changes from prelims to semis to finals as in each round theres a different thought process that the judges approach that round of performances with. With prelims the pool is so so deep that youre going to get some crazy polar opposite scores such as 12th in visual, and say 30th in music which is so common when the judges focus is who is really deserving of a second performance which leads to the inflation and deflation of certain scores in order to achieve as accurate of advancements as possible. Again the judging approach changes for semis, and finals hence why those drastic changes dont follow through.
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Post by ohbandfan on Nov 10, 2023 20:19:25 GMT -6
They've been having a bit of a weaker year compared to last year. I am not surprised, but I am willing to bet they weren't too too far from class rep status. I thought they looked really good. I’m sure it was close
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Post by oldbandguy on Nov 10, 2023 20:19:26 GMT -6
I don't believe this one bit. I truly believe that if you're not in the Top 22 (Top 11 each day), you are largely segregated and not given a fair shot to move out of your sandbox. The prelims performance is the most important performance that most bands can give, but for semifinalist (non-top tier finalists) qualifiers, it remains the most important performance of the season. It is all determined by where you fall on the schedule on Saturday. Judges know. The world knows. And you have no shot. Every band should receive a fair shot to perform and have that particular performance judged from a clean slate. It just does not happen at BOA. That's why it's rare to see ANYONE jump out of their box, despite the wide disparity sometimes in performance level or execution. Laziness. But it does happen. A great example is James F. Byrnes last year who went from 23rd in prelims (next 8) to 14th in semis...just barely out of finals. I don't disagree that the majority of times, things stay the same, but it is possible for things to *drastically* change Byrnes was also in a 1st day of prelims that was stacked more than the 2nd day of prelims.
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Post by floridaman on Nov 10, 2023 20:20:14 GMT -6
Congrats to everyone who made it!
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Post by c on Nov 10, 2023 20:20:28 GMT -6
Yes, no Center Grove, but yet Lawrence Township is in.... and yet they didn't even make it to semi-state ISSMA this year. Only one legacy Indiana band is allowed in each year. Not CG’s turn. I think it would be great if we all stopped trying to proclaim weak trends as a restriction or proclamation as to what is or is not guaranteed to happen
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