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Post by coleeich on Apr 17, 2024 11:14:20 GMT -6
From an Oklahoma perspective, if Jenks has any sort of year like they’ve been having the last few years, I definitely think we could see them in finals. Union is a bit of a wild card because the growth they saw from 2022 to 2023 was huge. If they continue progressing at that rate, who knows where they will end up. Mustang is also hard to predict. This is going to be a tough year for them to slip into finals, but it’s going to happen one of these days. With the right show and performance, I could see something crazy happening. Plus with Cartwright not working with BA this year, he might put more focus on Mustang.
BA is also a wild card. I expect they may place lower than they usually do with a new designer but a new designer also might really make them excel.
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Post by ilikeguard on Apr 17, 2024 11:59:19 GMT -6
Alrighttttt.... here's what I'm thinking for grand nats finals... 1. Tarpon Springs 2. Carmel 3. William Mason 4. Avon 5. Cedar Park 6. Broken Arrow 7. Leander 8. Bridgeland 9. American Fork 10. O'Fallon Township 11. Friendswood 12. Dobyns-Bennett ---------------------- 13. Fishers 14. Brownsburg 15. Union Talk your stuff bestie!!
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Post by ilikeguard on Apr 17, 2024 12:01:32 GMT -6
I hope [Marian] stays in A. It was a treat getting to see them more than once last year in St. Louis after missing them in GN semis the year before. If what dbalash has always said about them is true (why wouldn’t it be?), with their gradual but consistent drop in enrollment, then it could be a while before we see them in AA again, if ever. They’re going to win the 0.5 A class next
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Post by rickyrosay on Apr 17, 2024 12:53:56 GMT -6
From an Oklahoma perspective, if Jenks has any sort of year like they’ve been having the last few years, II definitely think we could see them in finals. Union is a bit of a wild card because the growth they saw from 2022 to 2023 was huge. If they continue progressing at that rate, who knows where they will end up. Mustang is also hard to predict. This is going to be a tough year for them to slip into finals, but it’s going to happen one of these days. With the right show and performance, I could see something crazy happening. Plus with Cartwright not working with BA this year, he might put more focus on Mustang. BA is also a wild card. I expect they may place lower than they usually do with a new designer but a new designer also might really make them excel. When was the last time all of team Oklahoma came to Indy?
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Post by marimba11 on Apr 17, 2024 12:55:45 GMT -6
From an Oklahoma perspective, if Jenks has any sort of year like they’ve been having the last few years, II definitely think we could see them in finals. Union is a bit of a wild card because the growth they saw from 2022 to 2023 was huge. If they continue progressing at that rate, who knows where they will end up. Mustang is also hard to predict. This is going to be a tough year for them to slip into finals, but it’s going to happen one of these days. With the right show and performance, I could see something crazy happening. Plus with Cartwright not working with BA this year, he might put more focus on Mustang. BA is also a wild card. I expect they may place lower than they usually do with a new designer but a new designer also might really make them excel. When was the last time all of team Oklahoma came to Indy? 2017?
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Post by bigtrombone on Apr 17, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -6
My still-too-early Top 20 predictions. This is just for fun, so don't take these too seriously.
1. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 2. Avon H.S., IN 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Cedar Park H.S., TX 7. Bridgeland H.S., TX 8. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. American Fork H.S., UT ----------------------------- 13. Brownsburg H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Fishers H.S., IN 16. Union H.S., OK 17. Mustang H.S., OK 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Friendswood H.S., TX 20. Rosemount H.S., MN
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Post by macwinlin on Apr 17, 2024 13:29:55 GMT -6
When was the last time all of team Oklahoma came to Indy? 2017? Jenks wasn't there, so just depends on who is included in "all of team Oklahoma." I don't think there's been a year in recent memory during which all OK powerhouse groups have been to GN.
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Post by rickyrosay on Apr 17, 2024 14:03:39 GMT -6
Jenks wasn't there, so just depends on who is included in "all of team Oklahoma." I don't think there's been a year in recent memory during which all OK powerhouse groups have been to GN. Who would be considered the powerhouse OK groups?
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Post by crowncrawler on Apr 17, 2024 15:32:27 GMT -6
Jenks wasn't there, so just depends on who is included in "all of team Oklahoma." I don't think there's been a year in recent memory during which all OK powerhouse groups have been to GN. Who would be considered the powerhouse OK groups? Broken Arrow, Jenks, Union, Owasso, Mustang, Yukon...there's plenty more but this is just off the top of my head.
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 17, 2024 17:13:36 GMT -6
The only safe prediction is American Fork in Glassmenth place. Again. (I jest, but could you imagine?!) FIFY IYKYK
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Post by marimba11 on Apr 17, 2024 17:28:21 GMT -6
Off topic, but it’s crazy how different first out, (DCI 2014 for me) and first in (WGI IW 2015) feels! It’s wild
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Post by kyle on Apr 17, 2024 23:17:51 GMT -6
Because I'm bored, just some comments about some bands from the last time I went to Grand Nats in 2022 and why I might be looking forward to seeing them again! For the record, when I talk about a bands show, it will be in reference to their 2022 show as that is likely the only one I've seen. (It's been a while as well, so if I mix up shows or anything please let me know)
American Fork - I march at American Fork and am super hyped to be attending GN again, we made large improvements last year and are going to be doing the same this year! I'm hoping to go above all of your guy's expectations and work to be in the top 8 finalists.
Dobyns-Bennett - I didn't particularly like their show 2022 and I haven't seen their 2023 show, but I could tell even with what I would call a sad show design, the kids were giving it their all and are really dedicated to the band, I'm hoping for some interesting design for them and a great show!
Lakota East - I like their soloists, energy, and choreography! The moon props were fun as well. It looked like a well-designed and fun show to preform! Looking forward to some more great visual and drill!
Reeths-Puffer - I absolutely loved their seesaw props and their uniforms made a great splash! The trombone solo was amazing as well! I'm excited for the opportunity to see them at GN!
Tarpon Springs - The show was as colorful and different as Reeths-Puffers was! Tarpon really did a fantastic job with their solos, and I loved the one wheel and Train!
Westlake - The only band that hasn't been to GN recently on this list, I'm super excited to see what they come up with this year as their visual is always super expressive! As the only other UT band going to GN I'm super excited to travel with them and am also super excited to see how much they can close the AF gap this year during UMEA, or maybe when they start to get really close it'll just make us try harder, then they get further and try harder, and we all get infinitely better.
Of course, there are a bunch of other bands that could be on this list, but as I am a student, I don't really have time to look for and analyze even more shows, even though I want to, so don't be offended that people like Union, Prosper, or Castle aren't on the list. Feel free to share what bands you're excited for as well!
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Post by es203 on Apr 18, 2024 5:59:07 GMT -6
My still-too-early Top 20 predictions. This is just for fun, so don't take these too seriously. 1. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 2. Avon H.S., IN 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Cedar Park H.S., TX 7. Bridgeland H.S., TX 8. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. American Fork H.S., UT ----------------------------- 13. Brownsburg H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Fishers H.S., IN 16. Union H.S., OK 17. Mustang H.S., OK 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Friendswood H.S., TX 20. Rosemount H.S., MN Saw Tarpon Springs 1st, insta liked, didn’t read anything else
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Post by croden on Apr 18, 2024 11:25:03 GMT -6
My still-too-early Top 20 predictions. This is just for fun, so don't take these too seriously. 1. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 2. Avon H.S., IN 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Cedar Park H.S., TX 7. Bridgeland H.S., TX 8. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK11. Leander H.S., TX 12. American Fork H.S., UT ----------------------------- 13. Brownsburg H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Fishers H.S., IN 16. Union H.S., OK 17. Mustang H.S., OK 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Friendswood H.S., TX 20. Rosemount H.S., MN I feel like the bolded groups are not as safe as those placements make it out to be based on their shows last year. I do think Leander and AF are likely higher than those 3 groups. I also think that the competition level between 10-20th place is incredibly close and they could place anywhere
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Post by crunchycookie3 on Apr 18, 2024 11:29:50 GMT -6
Some Texas context, as there are some relatively new names this year: If Prosper is in fact still attending, I think they will be safely in finals. This is a group that fared quite well at the NTX regional last year. Similarly, Argyle placed well at San Antonio Super—especially for a 2A group. For perspective, this high school is adjacent to Flower Mound and Marcus in a rapidly developing suburb. I think they will make a sizable splash come November. Friendswood is difficult for me to place. They’ve had great early-season success in recent years, often competing well against groups like Seven Lakes, Klein Oak, and College Park. This hasn’t seemed to translate into much late-season success at San Antonio, but who knows what could happen in Indy! Bridgeland was an absolute monster last year. Similar to Argyle, their area is exploding in development with a massive talent pool. This isn’t shocking to anyone who has seen their recent shows. They will handedly be in finals, it’s only a question of where their ceiling is. Cedar Park is going to be spectacular as always next year. They seem to magically find their performance peak in the week after San Antonio, something that will bode quite well for a high placement at Indy. Leander has seemed to be up and down lately, but after the success of last year, finals is well within reach for them. Of course I’m biased, but I sense a robust TX presence in finals next year. It will be interesting to see how some frequent finalists like Jenks, DB, Fishers, and Castle will stack up against fresh competition.
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Post by tubalord11 on Apr 18, 2024 12:26:31 GMT -6
My still-too-early Top 20 predictions. This is just for fun, so don't take these too seriously. 1. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 2. Avon H.S., IN 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Cedar Park H.S., TX 7. Bridgeland H.S., TX 8. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK11. Leander H.S., TX 12. American Fork H.S., UT ----------------------------- 13. Brownsburg H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Fishers H.S., IN 16. Union H.S., OK 17. Mustang H.S., OK 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Friendswood H.S., TX 20. Rosemount H.S., MN I feel like the bolded groups are not as safe as those placements make it out to be based on their shows last year. I do think Leander and AF are likely higher than those 3 groups. I also think that the competition level between 10-20th place is incredibly close and they could place anywhere I find it easy to forget, but O-Fallen has an incredible season last year, placing 5th at the Indy super regional over bands like Fishers, Union and Castle and barley behind Brownsburg, and 2nd at St. Louis over bands like Westwood and Bentonville, so as long as they have another show/season like 23 then I feel like they are chillin. Here’s my current predictions: 1st- Tarpon Springs 2nd- Avon 3rd- William Mason 4th- Carmel 5th- Cedar Park 6th- Broken Arrow 7th- Bridgeland 8th- Leander 9th- O-Fallen Township 10th- American Fork 11th- Prosper 12th- Jenks/DB Could also see Fishers, Union, Mustang, Brownsburg, Castle and maybe Friendswood, but my list is pretty common to some of the others.
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Post by es203 on Apr 18, 2024 18:23:17 GMT -6
In no world do I see DB below 10th, even in this field. Multiple times I have predicted them in 11th or 12th and they have proved me completely wrong.
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Post by coleeich on Apr 18, 2024 19:10:46 GMT -6
Ugh fine I'll play.
1. Avon H.S., IN 2. William Mason H.S., OH 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Bridgeland H.S., TX 7. Cedar Park H.S., TX 8. Leander H.S., TX 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK 11. Brownsburg H.S., IN 12. Prosper H.S., TX -------------------------- 13. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 14. Union H.S., OK 15. Mustang H.S., OK 16. Fishers H.S., IN 17. American Fork H.S., UT 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Rosemount H.S., MN 20. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 21. Centerville H.S, OH 22. Center Grove H.S., IN 23. Homestead H.S., IN 24. Jenison H.S., MI 25. Friendswood H.S., TX 26. Catawba Ridge H.S., SC 27. Westlake H.S., UT 28. Rockford H.S., MI 29. Noblesville H.S., IN 30. Bartlett H.S., TN 31. Deer Creek H.S., OK 32. Norwin H.S., PA 33. Argyle H.S., TX 34. Frankln H.S., TN 35. Lawrence Township H.S., IN
I didn't put a whole lot of thought into this and probably missed someone so please don't come for me. And of course, some spicy predictions in there too
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Post by band12 on Apr 18, 2024 19:33:24 GMT -6
Just want to throw something out there, with the huge 3A presence this year I’m predicting a lot of disappointed 4A groups that get Semis and even Finals spots taken. Gonna be interesting!
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Post by mtnxdrew on Apr 19, 2024 5:16:24 GMT -6
Keep an eye on Walled Lake. They were neck and neck with Rockford last year, and while they never directly competed with Jenison, I would have to believe they would’ve been close as well.
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 19, 2024 5:33:09 GMT -6
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Post by ohioguy2 on Apr 19, 2024 5:49:52 GMT -6
Keep an eye on Walled Lake. They were neck and neck with Rockford last year, and while they never directly competed with Jenison, I would have to believe they would’ve been close as well. Do we have any idea on how their director change will affect things there?
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Post by ilikeguard on Apr 19, 2024 6:14:35 GMT -6
Ugh fine I'll play. 1. Avon H.S., IN 2. William Mason H.S., OH 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK 6. Bridgeland H.S., TX 7. Cedar Park H.S., TX 8. Leander H.S., TX 9. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 10. Jenks H.S., OK 11. Brownsburg H.S., IN 12. Prosper H.S., TX -------------------------- 13. O'Fallon Township H.S., IL 14. Union H.S., OK 15. Mustang H.S., OK 16. Fishers H.S., IN 17. American Fork H.S., UT 18. Castle H.S., IN 19. Rosemount H.S., MN 20. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL 21. Centerville H.S, OH 22. Center Grove H.S., IN 23. Homestead H.S., IN 24. Jenison H.S., MI 25. Friendswood H.S., TX 26. Catawba Ridge H.S., SC 27. Westlake H.S., UT 28. Rockford H.S., MI 29. Noblesville H.S., IN 30. Bartlett H.S., TN 31. Deer Creek H.S., OK 32. Norwin H.S., PA 33. Argyle H.S., TX 34. Frankln H.S., TN 35. Lawrence Township H.S., IN I didn't put a whole lot of thought into this and probably missed someone so please don't come for me. And of course, some spicy predictions in there too This is like looking at a scan of your brain it’s fascinating
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Post by bigblue2019 on Apr 19, 2024 8:47:46 GMT -6
There are currently 107 bands registered for grand nationals! Someone is slacking on the calendar hunting!!🤣🤣🤣
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 19, 2024 8:48:30 GMT -6
There are currently 107 bands registered for grand nationals! Someone is slacking on the calendar hunting!!🤣🤣🤣 Correction: directors are slacking on the calendar updating (and/or band programs are slacking on having a website). (Not that we expect it — many more important things to worry about this time of year!)
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Post by rickyrosay on Apr 19, 2024 8:57:09 GMT -6
*cracks knuckles*
Let's give this a shot.
Top 5 1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK
Next Grouping (all of which is interchangeable)
6. Bridgeland H.S., TX 7. O’Fallon Township H.S., IL 8. Cedar Park H.S., TX 9. Brownsburg H.S., IN 10. Fishers H.S., IN 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. Friendswood H.S., TX 13. Fishers H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Union H.S., OK 16. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 17. Homestead H.S., IN 18. American Fork H.S., UT 19. Castle H.S., IN 20. Rosemount H.S., MN 21. Jenks H.S., OK 22. Rosemount H.S., MN
Next 8? Maybe?
23. Deer Creek H.S., OK 24. Centerville H.S., OH 25. Catawba Ridge H.S., SC 26. Mustang H.S., OK 27. Franklin H.S., TN 28. Rockford H.S., MI 29. Norwin H.S., PA 30. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL
Groups with a shot at that top 30
31. Noblesville H.S., IN 32. Lawrence Township, IN 33. Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI 34. Walled Lake Schools, MI 35. Center Grove H.S., IN 36. Panther Creek H.S., NC 37. Argyle H.S., TX 38. Camdenton H.S., MO
Look man. I think you’re gonna be in the high 70’s low 80’s and that’s awesome!
39. Lakota East H.S., OH 40. Cary H.S., NC 41. Bartlett H.S., TN 42. Bourbon County H.S., KY 43. Campbell County H.S., KY 44. Marian Catholic H.S., IL 45. Miamisburg H.S., OH 46. Floyd Central H.S., IN 47. Goshen H.S., IN 48. Greenfield-Central H.S., IN 49. DeSoto Central H.S., MS 50. Nixa H.S., MO
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 19, 2024 9:02:51 GMT -6
*cracks knuckles* Let's give this a shot. Top 5 1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK Next Grouping (all of which is interchangeable) 6. Bridgeland H.S., TX 7. O’Fallon Township H.S., IL 8. Cedar Park H.S., TX 9. Brownsburg H.S., IN 10. Fishers H.S., IN 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. Friendswood H.S., TX 13. Fishers H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Union H.S., OK 16. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 17. Homestead H.S., IN 18. American Fork H.S., UT 19. Castle H.S., IN 20. Rosemount H.S., MN 21. Jenks H.S., OK 22. Rosemount H.S., MN Next 8? Maybe? 23. Deer Creek H.S., OK 24. Centerville H.S., OH 25. Catawba Ridge H.S., SC 26. Mustang H.S., OK 27. Franklin H.S., TN 28. Rockford H.S., MI 29. Norwin H.S., PA 30. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL Groups with a shot at that top 30 31. Noblesville H.S., IN 32. Lawrence Township, IN 33. Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI 34. Walled Lake Schools, MI 35. Center Grove H.S., IN 36. Panther Creek H.S., NC 37. Argyle H.S., TX 38. Camdenton H.S., MO Look man. I think you’re gonna be in the high 70’s low 80’s and that’s awesome! 39. Lakota East H.S., OH 40. Cary H.S., NC 41. Bartlett H.S., TN 42. Bourbon County H.S., KY 43. Campbell County H.S., KY 44. Marian Catholic H.S., IL 45. Miamisburg H.S., OH 46. Floyd Central H.S., IN 47. Goshen H.S., IN 48. Greenfield-Central H.S., IN 49. DeSoto Central H.S., MS 50. Nixa H.S., MO Friendswood over Prosper? Never. Bartlett probably belongs in the tier above. Panther Creek and Camdenton probably belong in the tier below. Not too familiar with Deer Creek but they feel a little high, though they should definitely be top 50. Otherwise, not a terrible list. But Friendswood over Prosper was a lovely morning chuckle, thanks for that!
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Post by kyle on Apr 19, 2024 9:10:09 GMT -6
*cracks knuckles* Let's give this a shot. Top 5 1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL 3. Carmel H.S., IN 4. William Mason H.S., OH 5. Broken Arrow H.S., OK Next Grouping (all of which is interchangeable) 6. Bridgeland H.S., TX 7. O’Fallon Township H.S., IL 8. Cedar Park H.S., TX 9. Brownsburg H.S., IN 10. Fishers H.S., IN 11. Leander H.S., TX 12. Friendswood H.S., TX 13. Fishers H.S., IN 14. Prosper H.S., TX 15. Union H.S., OK 16. Dobyns-Bennett H.S., TN 17. Homestead H.S., IN 18. American Fork H.S., UT 19. Castle H.S., IN 20. Rosemount H.S., MN 21. Jenks H.S., OK 22. Rosemount H.S., MN Next 8? Maybe? 23. Deer Creek H.S., OK 24. Centerville H.S., OH 25. Catawba Ridge H.S., SC 26. Mustang H.S., OK 27. Franklin H.S., TN 28. Rockford H.S., MI 29. Norwin H.S., PA 30. Lincoln-Way H.S., IL Groups with a shot at that top 30 31. Noblesville H.S., IN 32. Lawrence Township, IN 33. Plymouth-Canton E.P., MI 34. Walled Lake Schools, MI 35. Center Grove H.S., IN 36. Panther Creek H.S., NC 37. Argyle H.S., TX 38. Camdenton H.S., MO Look man. I think you’re gonna be in the high 70’s low 80’s and that’s awesome! 39. Lakota East H.S., OH 40. Cary H.S., NC 41. Bartlett H.S., TN 42. Bourbon County H.S., KY 43. Campbell County H.S., KY 44. Marian Catholic H.S., IL 45. Miamisburg H.S., OH 46. Floyd Central H.S., IN 47. Goshen H.S., IN 48. Greenfield-Central H.S., IN 49. DeSoto Central H.S., MS 50. Nixa H.S., MO Maybe you're not familiar with Utah bands, or maybe we just have very different views, but I think Westlake UT should be at least top 50, no?
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 19, 2024 9:14:36 GMT -6
Banishing April predictions to the depths of hell/previous pages where they belong. 😜 *breathes in the fresh spring air*
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Post by kyle on Apr 19, 2024 9:20:52 GMT -6
How fun would it be if both Westlakes went?
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