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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Jun 2, 2019 10:52:39 GMT -6
As noted on the main Hornrank page, one of the rule changes prohibits corporate logos on the field. Not being from Texas I didn't know about the CTJ/Whataburger situation. Good for BOA for addressing this. Nothing good was going to come from allowing corporate sponsors to buy ad space on the field. As if money isn't a big enough factor, that would be a terrible direction to allow. Glad they nipped it.
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Post by thewho on Jun 2, 2019 12:00:21 GMT -6
While I understand the need to recognize sponsors and whatnot, I'm not for dividing the playing field unnecessarily by letting a few bands get (significantly) more money over others. Feel free to advertise the sponsors all you want outside the playing field. Good call.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 2, 2019 12:59:53 GMT -6
Now if we could just get the bowl games to do the same thing. I’m so tired of watching the Tampa Bay Tampax Tampon Bowl if you know what I mean. 🙄😁
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 3, 2019 5:21:09 GMT -6
I look forward to not seeing the Yamaha logo on the field at Grand Nationals.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Jun 3, 2019 5:45:09 GMT -6
I look forward to not seeing the Yamaha logo on the field at Grand Nationals.------------------------------------------- Yeah. I'm guessing that this doesn't fall under the new ruling.  <iframe width="27.74000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 27.74000000000001px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_77745340" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.74000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 27.74px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1323px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32677376" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.74000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 27.74px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 137px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_28134523" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="27.74000000000001" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 27.74px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1323px; top: 137px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_18725493" scrolling="no"></iframe> |
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 3, 2019 7:42:01 GMT -6
I look forward to not seeing the Yamaha logo on the field at Grand Nationals.------------------------------------------- Yeah. I'm guessing that this doesn't fall under the new ruling. Since it only applies to "in a show" that's true. One can only hope... |
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on Jun 3, 2019 9:26:00 GMT -6
Since it only applies to "in a show" that's true. One can only hope... --------------------------- Yeah, that was poor wording in my original post. If someone hadn't read the Hornrank piece it certainly would be confusing. I should have said "in a show" as opposed to "on the field."  |
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Jun 3, 2019 19:20:26 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, how many programs does this actually impact? I saw CTJ mentioned for their sponsorship from Whataburger. There is also Flower Mound who worked the Brillo Pad logo into their show design last year, though I don't know if there was actually any sponsorship involved there. The rule does state that a band can obtain permission from BOA to include logos so maybe what FloMo did would still fly.
I'm sure there have been other instances but I don't recall seeing corporate logos being prominently displayed by anyone else. Tbf I've seen thousands of band performances over the last 20 years and a lot of it runs together so I may have seen something that I've long forgotten.
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Post by supersound on Jun 3, 2019 22:09:39 GMT -6
Flower Mounds branding on the field fit into theme of “Pop” I’m not art major but I’m sure someone could explain in better depth how they exactly relate to pop art I know they do just not how
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 3, 2019 23:03:53 GMT -6
Flower Mounds branding on the field fit into theme of “Pop” I’m not art major but I’m sure someone could explain in better depth how they exactly relate to pop art I know they do just not how It was a tribute to the pop art movement and specifically the art of Andy Warhol, Keith Haring and Roy Lichtenstein. And pop music artist Cyndi Lauper. No corporate sponsorship in this show. |
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Post by jeremiah on Jun 4, 2019 18:42:21 GMT -6
Out of curiosity, how many programs does this actually impact? I saw CTJ mentioned for their sponsorship from Whataburger. There is also Flower Mound who worked the Brillo Pad logo into their show design last year, though I don't know if there was actually any sponsorship involved there. The rule does state that a band can obtain permission from BOA to include logos so maybe what FloMo did would still fly. I'm sure there have been other instances but I don't recall seeing corporate logos being prominently displayed by anyone else. Tbf I've seen thousands of band performances over the last 20 years and a lot of it runs together so I may have seen something that I've long forgotten.
I know Flower Mound got permission from BOA and UIL to use their logos on flags in the show. Not sure about the other pop art logos they used. Other than CTJ's Whataburger ads on front drops, I don't know of any other example of bands using corporate logos on the field. Hendrickson did have corporate sponsor logos on the 3D glasses they distributed at San Antonio in 2016, but they had to use sharpie to mark out all the logos before finals. |
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Post by Samuel Culper on Jun 5, 2019 15:08:01 GMT -6
The cynic in me says this rule is about protecting BOA's sponsors that pay money to advertise in stadium, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE.
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Post by secret on Jun 5, 2019 15:22:47 GMT -6
The cynic in me says this rule is about protecting BOA's sponsors that pay money to advertise in stadium, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE. Perhaps that's BOA's motivation for this rule, but it is also true that it would widen the financial gap between good and bad bands. The good bands are usually already richer than the poorer bands, and I bet that those good bands would get more sponsorships than the worse bands. If it weren't for this rule, the rich would get richer, so I think it still makes sense no matter what the motivation is. |
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on Jun 5, 2019 20:28:14 GMT -6
The whole keeping the playing field as level as possible certainly is a good thing, but I think that this definitely has to do with BOA and their own sponsorships. Hasn't Dairy Queen been a big sponsor of a one or two of the Texas regionals the last few years? Whataburger is a direct competitor so BOA protecting that partnership makes sense. It also makes sense that BOA would say they don't want any logos if they aren't getting paid for it to be there.
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Post by rememberthealamo on Jun 6, 2019 6:03:33 GMT -6
IMO this is about BOA protecting its paid sponsors. I don’t see this leveling the “playing field”. Not having a business name on the field will not prevent bands from getting corporate sponsorship. Sponsors will continue to get their name out on band shirts, band websites, on booths at football games and other fundraising events and on trailers, etc.
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Post by lemondude617 on Jun 6, 2019 7:27:09 GMT -6
The whole keeping the playing field as level as possible certainly is a good thing, but I think that this definitely has to do with BOA and their own sponsorships. Hasn't Dairy Queen been a big sponsor of a one or two of the Texas regionals the last few years? Whataburger is a direct competitor so BOA protecting that partnership makes sense. It also makes sense that BOA would say they don't want any logos if they aren't getting paid for it to be there. This seems like a likely motive for the rule change; but honestly, I don’t think we need to care too much. I’d much rather BOA’s sponsors feel warm and fuzzy handing money to BOA than band programs being forced to shell out even more cash in competition fees etc. |
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