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Post by hewhowaits on Mar 6, 2024 6:13:10 GMT -6
The bands for the 2025 Rose Parade have been announced.
605 All Star Band — Artesia, Bellflower, Cerritos, Hawaiian Gardens, La Mirada, Lakewood, Norwalk, CA – 7 schools in 2 districts
All Star Marching Band Mexico – Pueblo Mexico
Banda de Música Herberto López Colegio José Daniel Crespo – Chitré, Herrera, Panama
Fresno State Bulldog Marching Band — Fresno, CA
Helsingør Pigegarde (Elsinore Girls Marching Band) — Hornbaek, Denmark
Homestead High School Mighty Mustang Marching Band & Colorguard — Cupertino, CA
Kyoto Tachibana High School Green Band — Kyoto, Japan
LAUSD All District High School Honor Band — Los Angeles, CA
Pasadena City College Herald Trumpets — Pasadena, CA
Pasadena City College Tournament of Roses Honor Band — Pasadena, CA
Pebble Hills High School Spartan Marching Band — El Paso, TX
Rancho Verde Crimson Regiment — Moreno Valley, CA
Salesians of Don Bosco Southern California High School Band — Rosemead, Bellflower, Boyle Heights/Los Angeles, CA – 3 private schools
Seminole High School Warhawk Marching Band — Seminole, FL
The Jackson State University “Sonic Boom of the South” — Jackson, MS
The Lincoln-Way Marching Band — Frankfort, IL
The New England Honors Marching Band — MA, CT, RI, VT, NH, ME – college and high school students
The Salvation Army Tournament of Roses Band — Carson, CA
The University of Wyoming “Western Thunder” Marching Band — Laramie, WY
The Woodlands High School Marching Band — The Woodlands, TX
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Post by paddy on Mar 6, 2024 13:14:58 GMT -6
With the numbers I hear thrown around for the cost/student of this parade (and others) I would have a hard time advocating for programs I am involved with to go.
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Post by dbalash on Mar 6, 2024 14:10:15 GMT -6
With the numbers I hear thrown around for the cost/student of this parade (and others) I would have a hard time advocating for programs I am involved with to go. Lincoln-Way, in QUINT occupancy for a room, is at $3,199/person according to documents posted on their site. That's for December 27th-January 2. Included is a Warner Brothers Studio Tour, 2 days at Disneyland (you really only need one. I know they're doing fundraisers and raffles and that, but still, that's a lot of $$$. |
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on Mar 6, 2024 14:39:51 GMT -6
The Woodlands Band is on the list still, but the parents voted to decline the invitation when the trip cost was quoted to them. It’s significantly more expensive than what they are used to paying for a GN trip, and they could not justify the increased cost and time commitment. They’ve notified the Rose Parade selection committee months ago, but someone didn’t share somewhere and their name is still on the list.
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Post by philodemus on Mar 6, 2024 14:55:47 GMT -6
These sorts of parades are definitely on the list of “Things Bands Do That I, a Guy Who Loves Bands, Do Not Quite Get the Appeal Of.” That’s a lot of money for 10 seconds of TV time before cutting to a paper towel commercial.
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 6, 2024 16:09:29 GMT -6
These sorts of parades are definitely on the list of “Things Bands Do That I, a Guy Who Loves Bands, Do Not Quite Get the Appeal Of.” That’s a lot of money for 10 seconds of TV time before cutting to a paper towel commercial. I disagree, it can be an incredible way to represent your community and create memories that will last a lifetime. However, I give no judgement to The Woodlands on passing it up if the cost is just that prohibitive, especially in the last few years with inflation. As I understand it The Woodlands is one of the wealthiest communities in TX, so I am surprised that the cost would be too much even for them, but that’s more of a question rather than a statement. |
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Post by kdivine on Mar 6, 2024 19:14:21 GMT -6
These sorts of parades are definitely on the list of “Things Bands Do That I, a Guy Who Loves Bands, Do Not Quite Get the Appeal Of.” That’s a lot of money for 10 seconds of TV time before cutting to a paper towel commercial. I disagree, it can be an incredible way to represent your community and create memories that will last a lifetime. However, I give no judgement to The Woodlands on passing it up if the cost is just that prohibitive, especially in the last few years with inflation. As I understand it The Woodlands is one of the wealthiest communities in TX, so I am surprised that the cost would be too much even for them, but that’s more of a question rather than a statement. Honestly, $3,199 is a professional-ish level horn for a sax... I like competition and reasonable travel, but on my life I do believe that's a LOT for a single trip... |
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Post by WoodlandsMom4ever on Mar 6, 2024 19:22:53 GMT -6
These sorts of parades are definitely on the list of “Things Bands Do That I, a Guy Who Loves Bands, Do Not Quite Get the Appeal Of.” That’s a lot of money for 10 seconds of TV time before cutting to a paper towel commercial. I disagree, it can be an incredible way to represent your community and create memories that will last a lifetime. However, I give no judgement to The Woodlands on passing it up if the cost is just that prohibitive, especially in the last few years with inflation. As I understand it The Woodlands is one of the wealthiest communities in TX, so I am surprised that the cost would be too much even for them, but that’s more of a question rather than a statement. I do not disagree with you on your comment that it is an incredible way to represent your community and create memories that last a lifetime. The band students and parents all appreciate and were wow 'ed by the invitation and the opportunity to go to the Rose Parade and represent Marching Bands as a whole and our Community specifically. But when the quotes came back for the cost of the trip, it was quickly and unanimously decided that it was too great of a cost to ask our students and more specifically our parents to foot the bill for. Our school district may be one of the wealthiest school districts in the state- but it's also one of the largest and serves a population of many communities. It has exploded in size in the last 15 years and cannot keep up with the growth of the area. About 7 or 8 years ago the choice was made to keep things even amongst the high school's in the district and Band teacher positions were set for 3 directors at each school regardless of the size of the band program. Head director, assistant director, and a percussion director that splits his time with the Jr High school band program. The district pays for those 3 band directors, some instruments and upkeep, a set of uniforms every 7-8 years (which right now they are going on year 9 of the same uniform and I'm not sure if they get new ones anytime soon) and any UIL travel for football games (of which all are attended by the full band) and UIL band competitions. The parents wind up paying for everything else. Everything else covers everything from BOA entrance fee's, to the show design & props, to the Color Guard director and any tech's or staff. All semi truck expenses, rental's and hauling expenses (drivers and cab to haul them) for every performance- Football, UIL and Boa... ALL BOA travel. All the game day meals and competition meals. All the cost for directors to travel to BOA multi day events are covered by band boosters from the band fee's. Pennies are pinched and creative methods of finding sponsorships and creating homemade props are used... there are only so many short cuts you can take when booking travel for 325+ people. Charter Bus costs are astronomical, Charter plane flights are crazy expensive... those can't be booked at southwest's "wanna get away" prices. It's just too much to ask them to pay more than what they pay for a GN trip year, just for one week- in addition to the cost of what would be needed for just the band fee for the year to run the program. Yes our community is a generous and well funded community, but we do also have plenty of families in the band program that cannot easily pay our normal band fee each year. We have programs in place to help them pay for what they can and only the director ever knows who that is. We have generous parents that help with anonymous donations to help cover the costs of those that can't cover the regular band fee's. It's just too much to ask for almost double the cost... As much as it would be a fantastic opportunity, it's just too expensive. |
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Post by paddy on Mar 6, 2024 21:12:12 GMT -6
I can get 2 people to Dublin, Ireland for a week (flight and hotel) for $3600 so yeah, $3,199/person is a big number.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Mar 6, 2024 21:48:33 GMT -6
This parade business has gotten crazy out of hand. Bands can’t afford those kinds of costs! I think BOA and the RP should say adios to one another if this is an example of how expensive it is to go!
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Post by stlbanddad on Mar 7, 2024 11:25:03 GMT -6
With the numbers I hear thrown around for the cost/student of this parade (and others) I would have a hard time advocating for programs I am involved with to go. Lincoln-Way, in QUINT occupancy for a room, is at $3,199/person according to documents posted on their site. That's for December 27th-January 2. Included is a Warner Brothers Studio Tour, 2 days at Disneyland (you really only need one. I know they're doing fundraisers and raffles and that, but still, that's a lot of $$$.  O'Fallon was under $2,000 per person for the 2021 parade for the same number of days and this would have been the cost from the travel agent - before any fundraisers or other contributions. |
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Post by aiden on Mar 7, 2024 13:05:21 GMT -6
I disagree, it can be an incredible way to represent your community and create memories that will last a lifetime. However, I give no judgement to The Woodlands on passing it up if the cost is just that prohibitive, especially in the last few years with inflation. As I understand it The Woodlands is one of the wealthiest communities in TX, so I am surprised that the cost would be too much even for them, but that’s more of a question rather than a statement. Honestly, $3,199 is a professional-ish level horn for a sax... I like competition and reasonable travel, but on my life I do believe that's a LOT for a single trip... that's the same price as my current professional alto sax I got in 2022 |
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Post by LeanderMomma on Mar 7, 2024 15:51:47 GMT -6
I am truly floored about the cost and I feel like a lot of high school bands will have to opt out in the future after receiving the RP invite!
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Post by TWHSPercDad on Mar 7, 2024 16:32:42 GMT -6
Lincoln-Way, in QUINT occupancy for a room, is at $3,199/person according to documents posted on their site. That's for December 27th-January 2. Included is a Warner Brothers Studio Tour, 2 days at Disneyland (you really only need one. I know they're doing fundraisers and raffles and that, but still, that's a lot of $$$. O'Fallon was under $2,000 per person for the 2021 parade for the same number of days and this would have been the cost from the travel agent - before any fundraisers or other contributions. I’m not surprised by that, stlbanddad . The price per student for The Woodland’s 2023 trip to Grand Nationals was almost $700 more than the 2021 trip (that’s for airfare, accommodations, food, etc. for 4 nights in…..Central Indiana). I find it absolutely conceivable, in this economy, that three years later (airfare, accommodations, food, etc. for 6 nights in…..Southern California) could increase by $1,000 or more. I’m sure the Rose Parade trip was an absolutely awesome experience for all the O’Fallon students and parents! I certainly wish things were different today! |
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Post by kvgdc on Mar 7, 2024 19:14:48 GMT -6
Hmm. 1988 when we did it from Indiana it was $900. Amortization sites tell me that's roughly $2600 in today's money (using 1987 as the comparison year since it had to be paid in that year). We had one day in Universal Studios and one day in Knott's Berry Farm, we played Knott's Berry Farm and I remember being told that was part of our admission deal. I don't think we did Disneyland if I recall. We also didn't do the football game itself on the advice of our organizers as the decision was we'd be exhausted from the marching. So we bused to Venice Beach and freaked out the locals by going in the water. (it was nice by our standards then!) It was worth every cent we scraped up through fundraisers. We got a lot of local media being the first Ft. Wayne band to go and only one of a handful of Indiana bands to have made the trip (although Ben Davis and Concord had made repeat trips in their past). We had some local businesses pitch in too, the travel agent actually gave us a deal for the band itself in exchange for their name being in all our media and guaranteeing a certain number of parents taking the family package, which was a trivial requirement as parents were clamoring to go too. Having the flag in retreat all season and the bass drum heads was a thrill and the memories and stories are forever. I dunno if cutting back on the number of days in places could sorted out to get it down from that $3,199 bar, $900 was a sticker shock when announced but we figured it out. Even my folks both went and we were far from wealthy growing up, but it exhausted the "saving for a big vacation" fund. We'd typically do a biggish trip every 4 years. And the previous had been in 1984 for the Orange Bowl when my sister was in band. That one was cheaper ($360 in 1984 payment year = $1100 today) as I went with mom and dad. My sister didn't do California partly bcause of cost and partly because "i'm in college now." I think we had a series of 'local commercial begs' too for the Rose Parade campaign, local TV gave air time during the local news for them. I'm amused that YouTube has the ones from the campaign for my sister's trip to Miami.
[All that and they mispelled the school name on the chyron...i forgot about that. hah!]
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Post by dbdbdb on Mar 8, 2024 6:57:48 GMT -6
My son and I went with DB Band for the 2020 parade. It cost $2,454.00 (I looked it up) per student. It was a lot of money but through fundraisers and donations, every kid who wanted to go got to regardless of whether they could afford it or not. There were over 350 kids on that trip plus a ton of parents. I believe it took 11 or 12 tour busses to get us everywhere we needed to be. 6 nights, food, Disney, Universal, a party at the Aquarium of the Pacific, plus a ton of sightseeing. I needed a weeks-long nap when we got home. The kids don't just march in the parade (which is an incredible experience for them - not just a TV moment before a commercial break  ) - they also perform at Band Fest - which was a great opportunity to see all of the bands participating in the parade. Our kids also marched in the Disney parade which was so much fun to watch. Due to COVID, that was the only trip besides Grand Nats we got to take during our 4 years of high school. I wouldn't trade the experience for the world. |
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Post by bigtrombone on Mar 8, 2024 9:03:54 GMT -6
With the numbers I hear thrown around for the cost/student of this parade (and others) I would have a hard time advocating for programs I am involved with to go. Lincoln-Way, in QUINT occupancy for a room, is at $3,199/person according to documents posted on their site. That's for December 27th-January 2. Included is a Warner Brothers Studio Tour, 2 days at Disneyland (you really only need one. I know they're doing fundraisers and raffles and that, but still, that's a lot of $$$. Because I was curious, I wanted to see how this price point compared to the Macy's parade, another parade I would consider a "crown jewel" parade alongside TOR. The only one I could find a price for was Lincoln and the cost that they're asking the students to pay to go to Macy's is $1,710 per student (and Lincoln is looking at about 200+ members for 2024) through their ISA's. This is only part of the cost to go to Macy's and Lincoln's BPA is footing the bill for the other part (unknown cost). Lincoln is fundraising like crazy for this and is also spearheading a massive donation drive to cover meal costs for the entire 2024-25 school year (including the competitive season & the Macy's trip). Couldn't find prices for either Avon, Flower Mound, or Jonesboro (GA) but all three of them have donation links set up on their band websites. Didn't see anything for Lake Hamilton but I imagine they're fundraising like crazy as well. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Mar 8, 2024 9:26:41 GMT -6
Cost per student when Brownsburg did Macy's was around $1600 per student. That included charter flights, band transportation, hotels, Thanksgiving dinner, some other meals and dinner/celebration on boat.
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Post by paddy on Mar 8, 2024 11:23:30 GMT -6
Cost per student when Brownsburg did Macy's was around $1600 per student. That included charter flights, band transportation, hotels, Thanksgiving dinner, some other meals and dinner/celebration on boat. Other recent Macy's trips I know: Fishers cost was ~$3,000/traveler (source=local paper and band parents) Centerville was ~$2,000/traveler (source=band parents who went on trip) |
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O'Fallon was under $2,000 per person for the 2021 parade for the same number of days and this would have been the cost from the travel agent - before any fundraisers or other contributions.
) - they also perform at Band Fest - which was a great opportunity to see all of the bands participating in the parade. Our kids also marched in the Disney parade which was so much fun to watch. 
