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Post by cybrunette on Apr 14, 2024 11:28:45 GMT -6
Discussion thread for anything & everything A Class for all of Prelims, Semis, & Finals. Combined Full Schedule & Full Scores; hornrank.proboards.com/post/72639General World Championship Thread hornrank.proboards.com/post/72639/threadPreliminary Scores
Scholastic A - Round 1
1. Osseo Area Combined Schools, MN 88.5132. Centaurus HS, CO 88.2503. Everett HS, MA 87.6374. Kings HS, OH 86.8505. Lower Dauphin HS, PA 84.4006. North Allegheny HS , PA 82.3757. Bellbrook HS, OH 82.2508. Horizon Combined Schools , AZ 81.8509. Francis Howell HS, MO 80.62510. Columbus HS, MS 73.325Scholastic A - Round 2
1. Kickapoo HS, MO 91.9752. New Hartford HS, NY 90.6133. Sycamore HS, OH 88.7504. Unionville HS, PA 88.6005. Centerville HS, OH 87.2756. Perkiomen Valley HS, PA 84.7757. West Shore School District, PA 84.0008. Powhatan HS, VA 82.1759. Liverpool HS, NY 80.75010. Central HS, TX 79.85011. Lincoln-Way Community Schools, IL 75.925Scholastic A - Round 3
1. Pearl HS, MS 91.8002. Greenfield-Central HS, IN 91.5003. Central Dauphin HS, PA 89.1004. Westfield HS, IN 89.0505. Owen J Roberts HS, PA 86.5636. Grand Blanc HS, MI 84.9007. Springboro HS, OH 82.5008. Decatur Central HS, IN 81.4009. Albemarle County Combined Schools, VA 79.80010. Lakeway Christian Academy, TN 78.37511. Dennis-Yarmouth HS, MA 75.688Scholastic A - Round 4
1. Spring-Ford HS, PA 92.0382. Cranston Combined Schools, RI 87.9133. Longmont Combined Schools, CO 87.1884. Rex Putnam Combined Schools, OR 86.3375. New Milford HS, CT 86.2886. Dakota Combined Schools, MI 85.8507. Minooka Community HS, IL 85.1508. John C. Birdlebough HS, NY 83.6509. Hudsonville HS, MI 82.35010. Perry Meridian HS, IN 79.575Independent A
1. Charles Towne Percussion, SC 94.2502. Revelation, SC 92.8753. M3, OH 92.1004. North Star Independent, ID 89.4255. Vortex Percussion, MI 87.9756. Lake Effect Percussion, MI 86.3387. Quad City Percussion, MN 85.6258. Carolina Storm Indoor Percussion, NC 83.4759. Fruitport Independent Percussion, MI 83.33810. Impulse Drumline, OH 81.97511. Groove Pursuit, SD 81.77512. Columbus Saints Indoor Percussion Ensemble, OH 80.26313. IGNITE Winter Percussion, IN 79.96314. Shockwave, OH 76.075 |
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Post by cybrunette on Apr 18, 2024 10:21:22 GMT -6
A Semi-Finals Schedule
Day 2 | Fri. April 19
Location: Wright State University’s Nutter Center
Scholastic A - Round 1
11:00 AM - West Shore School District, PA
11:09 AM - Lower Dauphin HS, PA
11:18 AM - Perkiomen Valley HS, PA
11:27 AM - Kings HS, OH
11:36 AM - Centerville HS, OH
11:45 AM - Everett HS, MA
11:54 AM - Break
12:05 PM - Centaurus HS, CO
12:14 PM - Osseo Area Combined Schools, MN
12:23 PM - Unionville HS, PA
12:32 PM - Sycamore HS, OH
12:41 PM - New Hartford HS, NY
12:50 PM - Kickapoo HS, MO
12:59 PM - Break
Scholastic A - Round 2
1:40 PM - Minooka Community HS, IL
1:49 PM - Dakota Combined Schools, MI
1:58 PM - New Milford HS, CT
2:07 PM - Rex Putnam Combined Schools, OR
2:16 PM - Owen J Roberts HS, PA
2:25 PM - Longmont Combined Schools, CO
2:34 PM - Break
2:45 PM - Cranston Combined Schools, RI
2:54 PM - Westfield HS, IN
3:03 PM - Central Dauphin HS, PA
3:12 PM - Greenfield-Central HS, IN
3:21 PM - Pearl HS, MS
3:30 PM - Spring-Ford HS, PA
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A Finals Schedule
Day 2 | Fri. April 19
Location: University of Dayton Arena
Independent A
5:20 PM - Shockwave, OH
5:29 PM - IGNITE Winter Percussion, IN
5:38 PM - Columbus Saints Indoor Percussion Ensemble, OH
5:47 PM - Groove Pursuit, SD
5:56 PM - Impulse Drumline, OH
6:05 PM - Fruitport Independent Percussion, MI
6:14 PM - Carolina Storm Indoor Percussion, NC
6:23 PM - Break
6:35 PM - Quad City Percussion, MN
6:44 PM - Lake Effect Percussion, MI
6:53 PM - Vortex Percussion, MI
7:02 PM - North Star Independent, ID
7:11 PM - M3, OH
7:20 PM - Revelation, SC
7:29 PM - Charles Towne Percussion, SC
7:38 PM - Break
Scholastic A
7:55 PM - Longmont Combined Schools, CO
8:04 PM - Rex Putnam Combined Schools, OR
8:13 PM - Osseo Area Combined Schools, MN
8:22 PM - Everett HS, MA
8:31 PM - Centaurus HS, CO
8:40 PM - Central Dauphin HS, PA
8:49 PM - Westfield HS, IN
8:58 PM - Break
9:10 PM - Sycamore HS, OH
9:19 PM - New Hartford HS, NY
9:28 PM - Centerville HS, OH
9:37 PM - Unionville HS, PA
9:46 PM - Kickapoo HS, MO
9:55 PM - Pearl HS, MS
10:04 PM - Greenfield-Central HS, IN
10:13 PM - Spring-Ford HS, PA
10:45 PM - A Class Finale
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Post by srv1084 on Apr 18, 2024 19:36:07 GMT -6
Cranston with a chance of becoming the first RI percussion ensemble to make finals in any class. Love to see it.
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Post by cybrunette on Apr 18, 2024 19:53:44 GMT -6
Cranston with a chance of becoming the first RI percussion ensemble to make finals in any class. Love to see it. With all A scores now out, they are currently 12th! |
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Post by cybrunette on Apr 19, 2024 11:17:21 GMT -6
Semi-Finals Scores
Scholastic A - Round 1
1. Kickapoo HS, MO 91.613
2. Unionville HS, PA 91.212
3. Centerville HS, OH 91.150
4. New Hartford HS, NY 90.925
5. Sycamore HS, OH 90.137
6. Centaurus HS, CO 88.600
7. Everett HS, MA 88.425
8. Osseo Area Combined Schools, MN 87.863
9. Kings HS, OH 84.863
10. West Shore School District, PA 83.600
11. Perkiomen Valley HS, PA 83.575
12. Lower Dauphin HS, PA 83.300
Scholastic A - Round 2
1. Spring-Ford HS, PA 93.300
2. Greenfield-Central HS, IN 92.075
3. Pearl HS, MS 91.875
4. Westfield HS, IN 89.775
5. Central Dauphin HS, PA 89.025
6. Rex Putnam Combined Schools, OR 86.725
7. Longmont Combined Schools, CO 86.613
8. New Milford HS, CT 84.788
9. Owen J Roberts HS, PA 84.775
10. Dakota Combined Schools, MI 84.488
11. Cranston Combined Schools, RI 83.625
12. Minooka Community HS, IL 82.300
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Post by srv1084 on Apr 19, 2024 19:52:40 GMT -6
Making the decision to have your students toss paint all over the arena for your finals performance … maybe fun in concept, but probably not in the best interest of those students and at best a danger to the group that performs next.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Apr 19, 2024 21:06:36 GMT -6
Making the decision to have your students toss paint all over the arena for your finals performance … maybe fun in concept, but probably not in the best interest of those students and at best a danger to the group that performs next. What? Who did that??? |
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Post by cybrunette on Apr 19, 2024 21:11:37 GMT -6
Final Scores
Independent A
1. M3, OH 93.425
2. Charles Towne Percussion, SC 93.038
3. Revelation, SC 92.113
4. North Star Independent, ID 89.650
5. Lake Effect Percussion, MI 89.350
6. Groove Pursuit, SD 85.663
7. Fruitport Independent Percussion, MI 83.900
8. Vortex Percussion, MI 82.725
9. Carolina Storm Indoor Percussion, NC 81.500
10. Quad City Percussion, MN 81.125
11. Impulse Drumline, OH 78.800
12. Columbus Saints Indoor Percussion Ensemble, OH 77.725
13. IGNITE Winter Percussion, IN 73.450
14. Shockwave, OH 70.975
Scholastic A
1. Spring-Ford HS, PA 95.563
2. Centerville HS, OH 94.550
3. Greenfield-Central HS, IN 94.263
4. Pearl HS, MS 92.588
5. Kickapoo HS, MO 92.000
6. New Hartford HS, NY 90.275
7. Sycamore HS, OH 90.075
8. Centaurus HS, CO 89.350
9. Everett HS, MA 89.238
10. Central Dauphin HS, PA 89.163
11. Westfield HS, IN 88.663
12. Rex Putnam Combined Schools, OR 86.925
13. Osseo Area Combined Schools, MN 86.838
14. Unionville HS, PA 84.475
15. Longmont Combined Schools, CO 83.375
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Apr 19, 2024 21:11:45 GMT -6
I'm about halfway through watching PSA Finals right now (had to watch the finale of RuPaul's Drag Race first 😜)...
So far I'm pretty floored with how underdeveloped some of these visual designs are. Whereas guard seems to reward lots of tricks at the top of Scholastic A, it seems like percussion ONLY rewards elementary drill done cleanly. Very little simultaneous demand, very little "bodywork," especially with a drum on.
By no means is this a critique of the kids, who are doing what's asked of them and doing it VERY well. But this points to the vagueness of the judges' sheets, which do not offer any explicit criteria for what "A Class skills" look like vs "Open Class skills." I would expect the top of PSA to feature a bit more variety and range of movement skills.
Or maybe this just points to the 60/40 balance between music/visual captions in the overall score. I'm wondering if the recaps will show the first few groups of the night having high music ordinals and low visual ordinals? As someone without an ear for percussion music, I have no idea whose music books are more impressive and/or played more cleanly.
I'm wondering if anyone else has similar observations.... or maybe I'm just grumpy 😇
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Post by srv1084 on Apr 19, 2024 21:19:24 GMT -6
Making the decision to have your students toss paint all over the arena for your finals performance … maybe fun in concept, but probably not in the best interest of those students and at best a danger to the group that performs next. What? Who did that??? Unionville. It’s been done twice before (Bishop Kearney and Matrix) but in both cases they were either prepared with double tarps on the edge of the floor, or concentrated tossed right in the middle of the floor for easy cleanup through tarp folding. Unfortunately in this case, paint went everywhere, including the arena’s tarp, and it had to be cleaned up for a lengthy amount of time after their performance. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a VERY hefty penalty that landed them out of a medal spot, because it really was a phenomenal show. Just an unfortunate judgement call/poor planning. |
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Post by cybrunette on Apr 19, 2024 21:20:31 GMT -6
Unionville. It’s been done twice before (Bishop Kearney and Matrix) but in both cases they were either prepared with double tarps on the edge of the floor, or concentrated tossed right in the middle of the floor for easy cleanup through tarp folding. Unfortunately in this case, paint went everywhere, including the arena’s tarp, and it had to be cleaned up for a lengthy amount of time after their performance. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a VERY hefty penalty that landed them out of a medal spot, because it really was a phenomenal show. Just an unfortunate judgement call/poor planning. Well that explains why they dropped to 14th |
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Post by srv1084 on Apr 19, 2024 21:20:59 GMT -6
I'm about halfway through watching PSA Finals right now (had to watch the finale of RuPaul's Drag Race first 😜)... No spoilers, I can’t watch until Sunday night 😂 |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Apr 19, 2024 21:27:25 GMT -6
Unionville. It’s been done twice before (Bishop Kearney and Matrix) but in both cases they were either prepared with double tarps on the edge of the floor, or concentrated tossed right in the middle of the floor for easy cleanup through tarp folding. Unfortunately in this case, paint went everywhere, including the arena’s tarp, and it had to be cleaned up for a lengthy amount of time after their performance. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a VERY hefty penalty that landed them out of a medal spot, because it really was a phenomenal show. Just an unfortunate judgement call/poor planning. Just watched the replay - did they not think that paint on the tarp=paint on their shoes=paint tracked all over the place? Had they done this in competition before? Epic bad idea. |
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Post by srv1084 on Apr 19, 2024 21:32:32 GMT -6
Unionville. It’s been done twice before (Bishop Kearney and Matrix) but in both cases they were either prepared with double tarps on the edge of the floor, or concentrated tossed right in the middle of the floor for easy cleanup through tarp folding. Unfortunately in this case, paint went everywhere, including the arena’s tarp, and it had to be cleaned up for a lengthy amount of time after their performance. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a VERY hefty penalty that landed them out of a medal spot, because it really was a phenomenal show. Just an unfortunate judgement call/poor planning. Just watched the replay - did they not think that paint on the tarp=paint on their shoes=paint tracked all over the place? Had they done this in competition before? Epic bad idea. I don’t recall seeing it at the regional. I’m guessing it was a judgement call for finals, hence the not so great execution/planning. I feel bad for the kids if they did get a penalty (which I’m not sure how they couldn’t), but the penalty is of the least concern if the slick floors had any chance of causing harm to any groups that followed. |
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 19, 2024 21:47:12 GMT -6
Wow! Unionville going from 5th to 14th
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Apr 19, 2024 21:51:16 GMT -6
Ok but Unionville's paint WAS pretty gaggy...... it definitely justified an enormous penalty, but the EFFECT! the MOMENT!! Arguably so worth it..........
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Apr 19, 2024 21:53:48 GMT -6
Speaking of gaggy, I thought New Hartford's show was INGENIOUS!! The Wizard of Oz has been done a million times yet they found another way to innovate with it. Some of the most fantastic storytelling of the night IMO!
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Post by paddy on Apr 20, 2024 19:50:51 GMT -6
Just watched the replay - did they not think that paint on the tarp=paint on their shoes=paint tracked all over the place? Had they done this in competition before? Epic bad idea. I don’t recall seeing it at the regional. I’m guessing it was a judgement call for finals, hence the not so great execution/planning. I feel bad for the kids if they did get a penalty (which I’m not sure how they couldn’t), but the penalty is of the least concern if the slick floors had any chance of causing harm to any groups that followed. I heard from a little birdie that they got hit with a penalty at a regional over a paint spill early in the year. |
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 20, 2024 20:26:45 GMT -6
I don’t recall seeing it at the regional. I’m guessing it was a judgement call for finals, hence the not so great execution/planning. I feel bad for the kids if they did get a penalty (which I’m not sure how they couldn’t), but the penalty is of the least concern if the slick floors had any chance of causing harm to any groups that followed. I heard from a little birdie that they got hit with a penalty at a regional over a paint spill early in the year. I'm not sure but could it be when they received a 4.9 penalty at the Mid-Atlantic Percussion Society Championships Finals (April 13) which did cost them a win crowning Egg Harbor Township. 92.750 - Unionville (without the penalty) 1. 92.150 -Egg Harbor Township, NJ 2. 89.350 - Quakertown Community, PA 3. 88.300 - Southern Regional, NJ 4. *87.850 - Unionville, PA* They also did receive another small penalty of -0.2 points back in Feb 10 in (MAPS) Southern Regional Comp. |
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Post by paddy on Apr 21, 2024 3:52:42 GMT -6
I heard from a little birdie that they got hit with a penalty at a regional over a paint spill early in the year. I'm not sure but could it be when they received a 4.9 penalty at the Mid-Atlantic Percussion Society Championships Finals (April 13) which did cost them a win crowning Egg Harbor Township. 92.750 - Unionville (without the penalty) 1. 92.150 -Egg Harbor Township, NJ 2. 89.350 - Quakertown Community, PA 3. 88.300 - Southern Regional, NJ 4. *87.850 - Unionville, PA* They also did receive another small penalty of -0.2 points back in Feb 10 in (MAPS) Southern Regional Comp. Dropping out of medals is one I heard about. Also they took a penalty at the East Power Regionsl. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Apr 21, 2024 5:06:15 GMT -6
From the recaps it looks like they weren’t medaling anyway, but a 9 point penalty. Ouch. That one’s on the director/designer team. Figure out another way to make that moment.
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Post by unionville on Apr 22, 2024 8:45:01 GMT -6
Okay everybody... instead of speculating about Unionville's paint and penalty, you could have just asked me. First, I'm impressed with the recap hunting for previous penalties throughout the year. But, alas your wrong on the reasons... Feb 10th was an electronics issue, WGI Regional prelims had nothing to do with paint, MAPS Championships there were two issues- yes, paint was spilled, but the penalty was from time due to electronics failure and a staff member having to enter the competition area to resolve it. Ok- next issue... was there a plan? of course there was. For the comments about no protective tarps and shoes... please go back and take a look at the video of set up and tear down... better on the high cam. There were 86 feet of 10 ft wide protective tarp placed on top of the arena floor surrounding our floor, just because we were smart enough to have it blend into the UD Arena floor so you wouldn't notice during the performance doesn't mean it wasn't there and all members who had a chance of getting paint on them removed their shoes after the show once getting off the floor onto the protective tarp. This worked great for both prelims and semis- no penalties. We did less at prelims, but semis was and all out paint run. Sure, a little bit of paint got onto the arena floor at finals. Our interval time was 9:05... 0.25 point penalty. The rest was show delay due to paint on the ramp on the way up. If you have actually ever been a part of the Dayton ramp, you know the chaos that ensues. Well, paint spilled from a prop and dripped all the way up the ramp. We got it cleaned up, but it took some time. In the end the entire staff and membership would never trade that audience reaction for 9 points. We would have been 4th instead of 14th. The kids didn't miss out on a medal and honestly probably would be more upset coming a place short. We've been 7th (17), 4th (18), 9th (19)... covid... 5th (22), 12th (23) and now 14th. 4th-14th all get the same finalist plaque. Only one group got that crowd reaction.
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Post by unionville on Apr 22, 2024 9:15:28 GMT -6
I heard from a little birdie that they got hit with a penalty at a regional over a paint spill early in the year. I'm not sure but could it be when they received a 4.9 penalty at the Mid-Atlantic Percussion Society Championships Finals (April 13) which did cost them a win crowning Egg Harbor Township. 92.750 - Unionville (without the penalty) 1. 92.150 -Egg Harbor Township, NJ 2. 89.350 - Quakertown Community, PA 3. 88.300 - Southern Regional, NJ 4. *87.850 - Unionville, PA* They also did receive another small penalty of -0.2 points back in Feb 10 in (MAPS) Southern Regional Comp. Both of these were electronics related... |
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Post by unionville on Apr 22, 2024 9:17:16 GMT -6
I don’t recall seeing it at the regional. I’m guessing it was a judgement call for finals, hence the not so great execution/planning. I feel bad for the kids if they did get a penalty (which I’m not sure how they couldn’t), but the penalty is of the least concern if the slick floors had any chance of causing harm to any groups that followed. I heard from a little birdie that they got hit with a penalty at a regional over a paint spill early in the year. Your birdie was wrong... this is why we shouldn't try to talk to animals. |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Apr 22, 2024 10:38:57 GMT -6
Okay everybody... instead of speculating about Unionville's paint and penalty, you could have just asked me. First, I'm impressed with the recap hunting for previous penalties throughout the year. But, alas your wrong on the reasons... Feb 10th was an electronics issue, WGI Regional prelims had nothing to do with paint, MAPS Championships there were two issues- yes, paint was spilled, but the penalty was from time due to electronics failure and a staff member having to enter the competition area to resolve it. Ok- next issue... was there a plan? of course there was. For the comments about no protective tarps and shoes... please go back and take a look at the video of set up and tear down... better on the high cam. There were 86 feet of 10 ft wide protective tarp placed on top of the arena floor surrounding our floor, just because we were smart enough to have it blend into the UD Arena floor so you wouldn't notice during the performance doesn't mean it wasn't there and all members who had a chance of getting paint on them removed their shoes after the show once getting off the floor onto the protective tarp. This worked great for both prelims and semis- no penalties. We did less at prelims, but semis was and all out paint run. Sure, a little bit of paint got onto the arena floor at finals. Our interval time was 9:05... 0.25 point penalty. The rest was show delay due to paint on the ramp on the way up. If you have actually ever been a part of the Dayton ramp, you know the chaos that ensues. Well, paint spilled from a prop and dripped all the way up the ramp. We got it cleaned up, but it took some time. In the end the entire staff and membership would never trade that audience reaction for 9 points. We would have been 4th instead of 14th. The kids didn't miss out on a medal and honestly probably would be more upset coming a place short. We've been 7th (17), 4th (18), 9th (19)... covid... 5th (22), 12th (23) and now 14th. 4th-14th all get the same finalist plaque. Only one group got that crowd reaction. Thank you for the explanation, unionville - it is always better to have the facts. Going by WGI's historical reactions, next year there will be a "No Liquids" rule at WGI.... |
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Post by bandfan2002 on Apr 22, 2024 13:08:27 GMT -6
Penalties and scores were wack this weekend. There was one group who jumped from 15th in Prelims to Medaling in Finals. Shew!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 22, 2024 13:15:42 GMT -6
I'm not sure but could it be when they received a 4.9 penalty at the Mid-Atlantic Percussion Society Championships Finals (April 13) which did cost them a win crowning Egg Harbor Township. 92.750 - Unionville (without the penalty) 1. 92.150 -Egg Harbor Township, NJ 2. 89.350 - Quakertown Community, PA 3. 88.300 - Southern Regional, NJ 4. *87.850 - Unionville, PA* They also did receive another small penalty of -0.2 points back in Feb 10 in (MAPS) Southern Regional Comp. Both of these were electronics related... Oh, that sucks. So proud of guys on getting 4th in WGI Semi. U H S!....U H S!... U H S! |
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Post by aerotyslo on Apr 22, 2024 16:31:30 GMT -6
Penalties and scores were wack this weekend. There was one group who jumped from 15th in Prelims to Medaling in Finals. Shew! Who the heck did that sheesh- |
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Post by 70sguardchick on Apr 23, 2024 8:41:30 GMT -6
Penalties and scores were wack this weekend. There was one group who jumped from 15th in Prelims to Medaling in Finals. Shew! Who the heck did that sheesh- What class was that? |
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Post by paddy on Apr 23, 2024 11:39:47 GMT -6
Who the heck did that sheesh- What class was that? In PSA Centerville went from 14th in prelims to 2nd in finals Here are the placings by round for the 15 finalists in PSA. I did not apply the penalty in finals as it was large enough to skew the results. Though it could be argued that New Milford and Dakota might have had better results in semis without their penalties in prelims. Round School Prelims Semis Finals 4 Spring Ford 1 1 1 2 Centerville 14 6 2 3 Greenfield 4 2 3 2 Unionville 9 5 4 3 Pearl 3 3 5 2 Kickapoo 2 4 6 2 New Hartford 5 7 7 2 Sycamore 8 8 8 1 Centauraus 11 11 9 1 Everett 13 12 10 3 Central Dauphin 6 10 11 3 Westfield 7 9 12 4 Rex Putnam 18 14 12 1 Osseo 10 13 13 4 Longmont 15 15 15 |
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