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Post by ... with a score of 0.00 on Oct 11, 2019 17:21:23 GMT -6
Alright, I’m curious to hear what everyone has to say. Here are some of the states I’m most interested in: Florida Texas Indiana Oklahoma Ohio California South Carolina Tennessee Pennsylvania Leave your top 10 for each state  |
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Post by ... with a score of 0.00 on Oct 11, 2019 17:33:00 GMT -6
Since I have devoted this marching season to focusing on Ohio bands, here are my thoughts so far. Note that some of these groups would be higher or not even in the top 10 based on their history, but here are my opinions for strictly this season.
1. William Mason (Probably won’t change for a long time)
2. Centerville (Won the Muncie regional)
3. Lakota East (Could move up or down depending on indy placement)
4. Pickerington North (Scored/placed high at Columbus)
5. Grove City (I don’t know where to put them until the indy super. Could be higher, could be lower)
6. Miamisburg
7. Lakota West (Would be above miamisburg but scored lower than I predicted at Muncie.)
8. Dublin Coffman (Fun fact: beat L. East during prelims at Columbus due to Lakota’s penalty)
9. Norton (Made finals at Toledo, placed 2 points under Miamisburg)
10. Beavercreek
just out of top 10:
Dublin Jerome, Worthington Kilbourne, Fairfield
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 11, 2019 19:02:08 GMT -6
I'll do my top 15 from the Austin-area cause that's what I know best and Texas is too scary to confidently choose rankings for
1) Vandegrift
2) Leander
3) Vista Ridge
4) Cedar Park
5) Cedar Ridge
6) Westwood
7) Westlake
8) James Bowie
9) Lake Travis
10) Rouse
11) Round Rock
12) Hendrickson
13) Weiss
14) McCallum
15) Dripping Springs
Next 5: Anderson, Lyndon B. Johnson, McNeil, Pflugerville, Tom Glenn
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Post by QuadSquad03 on Oct 11, 2019 22:21:32 GMT -6
Oklahoma so far this season:
1) Broken Arrow - Will almost definitely stay here for a long time
2) Bixby/Jenks - Bixby placed above Jenks at Owasso, but not by much
4) Union - Placed below Jenks and Bixby at Owasso
5) Owasso - Placed well in prelims at Bedford (rip guard)
6) Southmoore - Placed above Coweta at BAI
7) Coweta - Won Flagstaff regional
8) Choctaw - Did very well at Owasso
9) Mustang - Has not competed with big groups yet this season
10) Edmond North - This group seems to be doing really well this season
However, if I were to rank them based on previous years:
1) Broken Arrow
2) Union
3) Owasso
4) Jenks
5) Bixby
6) Mustang
7) Coweta
8) Southmoore
9) Choctaw
10) Edmond Memorial
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 11, 2019 22:22:15 GMT -6
Wisconsin standings (of course, most of this is somewhat subjective). It’s a weird sort of mixed bag in this state. You have a few programs that are quite contemporary and a few that are still stuck in the 90s, with most of them being somewhere in the middle, but most leaning towards old-school. Over the last several years there has been a slow but steady shift to the more contemporary, “BOA” style of band shows (arguably largely influenced by Greendale’s success in state), though. But still, many of these programs would not be very successful at major out-of-state contests.
1) Greendale — Without a doubt the most storied, successful and known program in this state, being the only band from Wisconsin to make regular BOA Grand National appearances every year since 2009 (except for 2016 when they did the Macy’s Parade). They also will be marching in the 2020 Rose Parade. Performance quality has always held them back from being the semi-finalist band they so easily could be, but design has always held them at a higher pedestal than other programs here. They have won their class at State by a >10 point margin every year for the last several years, and have won every year since 2005.
2) Oak Creek — The best-sounding ensemble in the state by far. They are Greendale’s antithesis. Where Greendale is superior in design, Oak Creek is superior in performance quality, specifically musically. If they shifted their design aesthetic to a more contemporary flair, they would do very well at a smaller BOA regional.
GAP
3) River Falls — Another group that has always been pretty contemporary in their approach to design, they won 10+ consecutive State Championships when they were in Class AAA, but they have been switching back and forth from AA and AAA for the last several years, where they have always lost to Greendale in AA. They almost attended the Cedar Falls regional this season but dropped.
4) Baldwin-Woodville — A small but mighty band, another group leaning towards the contemporary aesthetic. They won the Best Percussion caption in their class 11 years in a row, until they lost it last year. A top 2 finisher in class for the last two or three decades. They were the Class A silver medalists at the Cedar Falls regional this season.
5) Waukesha West — These guys and Waukesha North have always been neck and neck rivals. Lately, West has always played better, while North doesn’t play as well as they used to, but is more contemporary in their design approach. Top 2 finisher in both classes they’ve been in for the last two or three decades.
6) Waukesha North — Once a storied and extremely successful ensemble has since lost some of its luster, but they did win a surprise State Championship last year after having losing to the projected winner at local contests all season. They are still a great ensemble comparatively to a lot of groups here, but they are not what they once were in the late ‘00s and early-mid ‘10s. That being said, they have placed in the top 2 in their class every year for the last two decades or so.
BIG GAP
7) Milton — A solid ensemble that is normally a top 3 finisher every year in their class at State. They are one of the few groups that usually tries to stick to a more contemporary style.
8) Cumberland — They have been a top 2 finisher in their class at State for the last two decades.
9) Sauk Prairie — A top 3 finisher at State in Class AA for many, many consecutive years, they’ve been known to break many of Greendale’s potential caption sweeps, having obtained the Best Percussion caption many times over them.
10) Portage — Another solid ensemble steadily on the rise. They are having their most successful season yet so far.
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Post by es203 on Oct 11, 2019 22:47:30 GMT -6
South Carolina
1. Wando
2. Byrnes (will trade off with Fort Mill very often)
3. Fort Mill (will trade off with Byrnes very often)
4. Nation Ford (could be higher in a couple of years when they recover from the school split)
5. Summerville
6. River Bluff
7. White Knoll
8. Easley
9. York
10. Ninety Six (they just have to be on here, one of the best BOA 1A bands not just in the southeast but in the country)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 11, 2019 23:57:15 GMT -6
Since I have devoted this marching season to focusing on Ohio bands, here are my thoughts so far. Note that some of these groups would be higher or not even in the top 10 based on their history, but here are my opinions for strictly this season. 1. William Mason (Probably won’t change for a long time) 2. Centerville (Won the Muncie regional) 3. Lakota East (Could move up or down depending on indy placement) 4. Pickerington North (Scored/placed high at Columbus) 5. Grove City (I don’t know where to put them until the indy super. Could be higher, could be lower) 6. Miamisburg 7. Lakota West (Would be above miamisburg but scored lower than I predicted at Muncie.) 8. Dublin Coffman (Fun fact: beat L. East during prelims at Columbus due to Lakota’s penalty) 9. Norton (Made finals at Toledo, placed 2 points under Miamisburg) 10. Beavercreek just out of top 10: Dublin Jerome, Worthington Kilbourne, Fairfield Pretty reasonable overall, but... Norton placed second in two different OMEA shows to bands you don't mention -- and in my opinion, the judges at those shows were correct. (I attended one and saw video from the other.) But neither of those two would have a shot at beating Miamisburg, so probably the judges at Toledo were just wrong to put Norton that high or Miamisburg that low. Also Dublin Jerome was bested by Central Crossing. And Beavercreek can't have been far ahead of Kettering Fairmont at OSU. There are three or four other bands who in most years would at least be on the bubble, but I haven't seen them yet this year. |
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Oct 12, 2019 0:21:01 GMT -6
Wouldn't dare to guess at Texas, but just belatedly saw Reagan's show and ... wow.
In the very clever follow the leader section with the sequentially forming ciricles, is anyone else reminded of the climax of the creepy Natalie Portman movie "Annihilation"?
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 12, 2019 6:40:18 GMT -6
Wouldn't dare to guess at Texas, but just belatedly saw Reagan's show and ... wow. In the very clever follow the leader section with the sequentially forming ciricles, is anyone else reminded of the climax of the creepy Natalie Portman movie "Annihilation"? I can’t wait to see this one later today at TMC! |
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Post by TeamIndiana on Oct 12, 2019 8:23:08 GMT -6
Here is the top 10 in Indiana IMO.
1) Carmel
2) Avon
3) Homestead
4) Fishers
5) Castle
6) Center Grove
7) Plainfield
8) Brownsburg
9) Carroll
10) Ben Davis
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Post by ... with a score of 0.00 on Oct 13, 2019 7:06:50 GMT -6
My updated Ohio band ranking:
1. William Mason
2. Centerville
3. Lakota East
4. Pickerington North (could easily switch with G.C.)
5. Grove City
6. Miamisburg
7. Lakota West
8. Kettering Fairmont
9. Dublin Coffman
10. Beavercreek
Bubble bands:
11. Kings (I have not seen their show this year, but judging by placement and their history, this is where they land for me)
12. Norton
13. Fairfield
14. Worthington Kilbourne
Other groups worth mentioning:
Dublin Jerome, Dublin Scioto, Northmont, Bellbrook, Licking Heights, Hilliard Darby, Hilliard Bradley, etc. There are probably more groups I haven’t mentioned, but past the top 7/8 are really hard for me. I can easily rank Mason, Centerville, L. E and the other BOA powerhouses but some of these strictly OMEA bands are tough. I feel like the BOA judging system gives you a more real, professional score (along with having those BOA show expectations), whereas OMEA is a different story. I know I already got corrected once (I totally forgot about Kettering. Lol.), please feel free to mention bands I forgot. Normally I focus on strictly BOA groups but I’m trying to expand my taste!
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Post by twhsalumniparent on Oct 13, 2019 7:13:53 GMT -6
Wouldn't dare to guess at Texas, but just belatedly saw Reagan's show and ... wow. In the very clever follow the leader section with the sequentially forming ciricles, is anyone else reminded of the climax of the creepy Natalie Portman movie "Annihilation"? It really falls into the "Secret World" theme - as the secret world is encountered, new parts open up. Within each new part, someone remains behind to explore. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. But that part struck me very vividly when I saw it live a week ago (and even more so viewing the videos). |
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Post by ohioguy2 on Oct 13, 2019 8:00:44 GMT -6
My updated Ohio band ranking: 1. William Mason 2. Centerville 3. Lakota East 4. Pickerington North (could easily switch with G.C.) 5. Grove City 6. Miamisburg 7. Lakota West 8. Kettering Fairmont 9. Dublin Coffman 10. Beavercreek Bubble bands: 11. Kings (I have not seen their show this year, but judging by placement and their history, this is where they land for me) 12. Norton 13. Fairfield 14. Worthington Kilbourne Other groups worth mentioning: Dublin Jerome, Dublin Scioto, Northmont, Bellbrook, Licking Heights, Hilliard Darby, Hilliard Bradley, etc. There are probably more groups I haven’t mentioned, but past the top 7/8 are really hard for me. I can easily rank Mason, Centerville, L. E and the other BOA powerhouses but some of these strictly OMEA bands are tough. I feel like the BOA judging system gives you a more real, professional score (along with having those BOA show expectations), whereas OMEA is a different story. I know I already got corrected once (I totally forgot about Kettering. Lol.), please feel free to mention bands I forgot. Normally I focus on strictly BOA groups but I’m trying to expand my taste! Milford is a very strong band being left out here. |
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Post by nomorehoney on Oct 13, 2019 8:06:20 GMT -6
Top 10 for illinois:
1. Lincoln-Way Community
2. O'Fallon Township
3. Marian Catholic
4. Lockport Township
5. Morton
6. Prospect
7. John Hersey
8. Downers Grove South
9. Belleville East
10. Normal Community
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Post by ... with a score of 0.00 on Oct 13, 2019 8:08:21 GMT -6
My updated Ohio band ranking: 1. William Mason 2. Centerville 3. Lakota East 4. Pickerington North (could easily switch with G.C.) 5. Grove City 6. Miamisburg 7. Lakota West 8. Kettering Fairmont 9. Dublin Coffman 10. Beavercreek Bubble bands: 11. Kings (I have not seen their show this year, but judging by placement and their history, this is where they land for me) 12. Norton 13. Fairfield 14. Worthington Kilbourne Other groups worth mentioning: Dublin Jerome, Dublin Scioto, Northmont, Bellbrook, Licking Heights, Hilliard Darby, Hilliard Bradley, etc. There are probably more groups I haven’t mentioned, but past the top 7/8 are really hard for me. I can easily rank Mason, Centerville, L. E and the other BOA powerhouses but some of these strictly OMEA bands are tough. I feel like the BOA judging system gives you a more real, professional score (along with having those BOA show expectations), whereas OMEA is a different story. I know I already got corrected once (I totally forgot about Kettering. Lol.), please feel free to mention bands I forgot. Normally I focus on strictly BOA groups but I’m trying to expand my taste! Milford is a very strong band being left out here. Yeah, forgot to mention them too. They wouldn’t make my top 10, but definitely a bubble band. I’d put them at rather 11 or 12. Not as big as Fairfield but definitely more clean. |
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Post by es203 on Oct 13, 2019 11:46:14 GMT -6
Wouldn't dare to guess at Texas, but just belatedly saw Reagan's show and ... wow. In the very clever follow the leader section with the sequentially forming ciricles, is anyone else reminded of the climax of the creepy Natalie Portman movie "Annihilation"? Just watched reagan also, and I had my doubts about them being so far ahead of everyone, but that went away very quickly. |
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Post by wildcat77 on Oct 13, 2019 15:01:18 GMT -6
Kentucky is the land of the small band -- and Lafayette and North Hardin.
1. Lafayette H.S. (5A in KMEA)
2. North Hardin H.S. (5A)
3. Bourbon County H.S. (4A)
4. Madison Central H.S. (5A)
5. Anderson County H.S. (4A)
6. Harrison County H.S. (4A)
7. Estill County H.S. (3A)
8. Adair County H.S. (3A)
9. Beechwood H.S. (2A)
10. Murray H.S. (2A)
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Post by whosaidit on Oct 18, 2019 3:12:49 GMT -6
Texas
1- Ronald Reagan
2- Flower Mound
3- Vandegrift
4- Hebron
5- Claudia Taylor Johnson
6- Leander
7- The Woodlands
8- Marcus
9- Keller
10- Cedar Park
Oklahoma-
1-Broken Arrow
2-Jenks
3-Owasso
4-Bixby
5-Union
6-Mustang
7-Southmoore
8-Coweta
9-Choctaw
10-Moore
Arkansas
1- Fayetteville
2- Bentonville
3- Bentonville West
Shake up after this
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Post by LeanderMomma on Oct 18, 2019 8:47:20 GMT -6
Texas 1- Ronald Reagan 2- Flower Mound 3- Vandegrift 4- Hebron 5- Claudia Taylor Johnson 6- Leander 7- The Woodlands 8- Marcus 9- Keller 10- Cedar Park Actually Leander is ranked above CTJ right now. We placed ahead of them at BOA Austin (we took second and CTJ took third). Now will it stay that way? I don't know. But for now... |
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 18, 2019 15:55:06 GMT -6
Arkansas 1- Fayetteville 2- Bentonville 3- Bentonville West Shake up after this considering Bryant and Lake Hamilton placed ahead of BWest at BMI, I'd have the top be as such: 1) Fayetteville 2) Bentonville 3) Bryant 4) Lake Hamilton 5) Bentonville West |
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Post by abtwitch on Oct 18, 2019 16:03:17 GMT -6
With BOA Midland happening, I'll give a shot at the top west Texas bands (not including El Paso, they deserve their own list):
1) Permian
2) Frenship
3) Lubbock-Cooper
4) Lubbock Coronado
5) Abilene
6) Odessa
7) Plainview
8) Midland
9) Lubbock
10) Midland Lee
Honorable mentions/no real good way to rank: San Angelo Central, Abilene Cooper, Abilene Wylie, Amarillo, Canyon
Now for El Paso:
1) Bel Air
2) J.M. Hanks
3) Pebble Hills
4) Coronado
5) Eastlake
6) Montwood
7) Del Valle
8) El Dorado
9) Eastwood
10) Franklin
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 18, 2019 17:13:49 GMT -6
After seeing some results the past few weeks and getting the opportunity to see more of the shows, here’s my thoughts for Indiana Class A bands:
1) Carmel
2) Avon
3) Homestead
4) Castle
5) Center Grove
6) Carroll
7) Fishers
8) Plainfield
9) Concord
10) Ben Davis
Bubble bands:
Brownsburg, Lawrence, Goshen, Penn
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Post by Allohak on Oct 18, 2019 18:24:42 GMT -6
After seeing some results the past few weeks and getting the opportunity to see more of the shows, here’s my thoughts for Indiana Class A bands: 1) Carmel 2) Avon 3) Homestead 4) Castle 5) Center Grove 6) Carroll 7) Fishers 8) Plainfield 9) Concord 10) Ben Davis Bubble bands: Brownsburg, Lawrence, Goshen, Penn Avon swept Carmel last week... |
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 18, 2019 20:33:36 GMT -6
After seeing some results the past few weeks and getting the opportunity to see more of the shows, here’s my thoughts for Indiana Class A bands: 1) Carmel 2) Avon 3) Homestead 4) Castle 5) Center Grove 6) Carroll 7) Fishers 8) Plainfield 9) Concord 10) Ben Davis Bubble bands: Brownsburg, Lawrence, Goshen, Penn Avon swept Carmel last week... Yep. Saw that. Avon was amazing. Carmel had a bad run. Overall, I think Carmel will come out on top. |
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Post by indyguardmom on Oct 18, 2019 20:50:06 GMT -6
After seeing some results the past few weeks and getting the opportunity to see more of the shows, here’s my thoughts for Indiana Class A bands: 1) Carmel 2) Avon 3) Homestead 4) Castle 5) Center Grove 6) Carroll 7) Fishers 8) Plainfield 9) Concord 10) Ben Davis Bubble bands: Brownsburg, Lawrence, Goshen, Penn Avon swept Carmel last week... I'm not sure about your top two. Plus, Lawrence Township beat Ben Davis last week and Fishers was 3 points ahead of Carroll at BOA Muncie. I also think you're leaving a very strong Decatur Central out of the conversation. |
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Oct 20, 2019 13:02:43 GMT -6
My updated top 10 after this past weekend:
1) Avon
2) Carmel
3) Homestead
4) Fishers
5) Carroll
6) Plainfield
7) Castle
8) Ben Davis
9) Lawrence Township
10) Center Grove
Bubble Bands: Concord, Brownsburg
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Post by secret on Oct 20, 2019 17:57:59 GMT -6
Virginia:
1) James Madison
2) Bassett
3) Hickory
4) Thomas Jefferson
5) Westfield
6) John Champe
7) Princess Anne
8) Cox
9) Rock Ridge
10) Freedom
To be honest, I think that Thomas Jefferson may be better than Hickory this year. I also think that James Madison is better than Bassett this year. The BOA Lynchburg regional will reveal whether or not my suspicions are correct
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Post by whosaidit on Oct 22, 2019 12:37:41 GMT -6
Oklahoma
This list is after St. Louis and a prediction of what might happen
Broken Arrow
Union
Jenks
Owasso
Bixby
Mustang
Southmoore
West Moore
Stillwater
Edmond Memorial
Moore
Could easily have Jenks above Union and bixby above owasso as well as Southmoore potentially above Mustang
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Post by stomper0202 on Oct 23, 2019 8:01:26 GMT -6
Virginia: 1) James Madison 2) Bassett 3) Hickory 4) Thomas Jefferson 5) Westfield 6) John Champe 7) Princess Anne 8) Cox 9) Rock Ridge 10) Freedom To be honest, I think that Thomas Jefferson may be better than Hickory this year. I also think that James Madison is better than Bassett this year. The BOA Lynchburg regional will reveal whether or not my suspicions are correct I feel like you may have underplaced westfield. they are having a really good year |
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Post by secret on Oct 23, 2019 8:12:28 GMT -6
Virginia: 1) James Madison 2) Bassett 3) Hickory 4) Thomas Jefferson 5) Westfield 6) John Champe 7) Princess Anne 8) Cox 9) Rock Ridge 10) Freedom To be honest, I think that Thomas Jefferson may be better than Hickory this year. I also think that James Madison is better than Bassett this year. The BOA Lynchburg regional will reveal whether or not my suspicions are correct I feel like you may have underplaced westfield. they are having a really good year I have seen most of the shows this year--TJ is better than Westfield imo. Not sure about Hickory (I personally think they are finding success partially off of legacy) |
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