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Post by altosandclarinets on Feb 27, 2024 16:59:02 GMT -6
With performance times coming out I’m excited to be surprised that the same half dozen bands randomly drew the Thursday night block. It’s not really random (but it sort of is). Bands can specifically request to go on Thursday if they want. However, a lot of bands will drive home Thursday and have their students go to school Friday (a lot of the Ohio schools do this). So BOA will call directors and find out their plans and won’t schedule them too late if they have a long drive back to school that night. So the bands that consistently go late Thursday are the bands that have requested to go that day AND either are close enough to Indy to have a short drive or are not returning that night and are staying in hotels in the city. Thats probably a smaller Venn Diagram than you’d think so a lot of those bands go late Thursday every year. Correct I know of a band who requested a late Thursday night slot this year after a director “made a few calls”.
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Post by horntrumpetdad on Feb 27, 2024 17:01:28 GMT -6
Is there thought to be some advantage to going on Thursday evening? Score creep through the competition. Gotcha, thanks.
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Post by hewhowaits on Feb 27, 2024 20:28:21 GMT -6
Is there thought to be some advantage to going on Thursday evening? Score creep through the competition. Thursday evening is still the first half of the judging panel, so score creep isn't a huge factor. To the extent that the phenomenon exists, the second half of Friday is where it takes place.
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Post by paddy on Feb 27, 2024 20:34:10 GMT -6
With performance times coming out I’m excited to be surprised that the same half dozen bands randomly drew the Thursday night block. It’s not really random (but it sort of is). Bands can specifically request to go on Thursday if they want. However, a lot of bands will drive home Thursday and have their students go to school Friday (a lot of the Ohio schools do this). So BOA will call directors and find out their plans and won’t schedule them too late if they have a long drive back to school that night. So the bands that consistently go late Thursday are the bands that have requested to go that day AND either are close enough to Indy to have a short drive or are not returning that night and are staying in hotels in the city. Thats probably a smaller Venn Diagram than you’d think so a lot of those bands go late Thursday every year. Odd, I know multiple Indy area bands that have indicated that they would happily go Thursday and have a very short drive who invariably end up with everything but Thursday evening slots…
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Post by paddy on Feb 27, 2024 20:35:11 GMT -6
Score creep through the competition. Thursday evening is still the first half of the judging panel, so score creep isn't a huge factor. To the extent that the phenomenon exists, the second half of Friday is where it takes place. Did they stop alternating panels between blocks?
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Post by Jake W. on Feb 27, 2024 20:40:42 GMT -6
Is there thought to be some advantage to going on Thursday evening? Score creep through the competition. I'm not sure about that; many local bands request a Thursday night performance so that no days of school are missed. In addition, I've seen a number of traveling Finalist-potential bands over the years request a Thursday night performance; it allows for a full day of travel, a performance once they get into town that same evening, and then a relaxed day of rehearsal between Prelims & Semis after already having gotten a run in Lucas Oil out of the way.
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Post by marimba11 on Feb 27, 2024 20:44:50 GMT -6
Ever since they went to panels instead of one panel each day, I haven’t seen any evidence of bands doing better on Thursday.
I think going Friday morning can be a disadvantage for early wake up times, just as Friday evening can be a plus. But I don’t really see much evidence of a times being specifically better or worse.
Southlake Carroll and Byrnes had great Thursday times in 2022 and then went on to have massive scores jumps in semis… so idk
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Post by hewhowaits on Feb 28, 2024 6:31:36 GMT -6
Thursday evening is still the first half of the judging panel, so score creep isn't a huge factor. To the extent that the phenomenon exists, the second half of Friday is where it takes place. Did they stop alternating panels between blocks? They did not. That's why Thursday evening is the second block of four on that panel. Score creep is typically a phenomenon for the fourth block of four on each panel.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Feb 28, 2024 6:44:43 GMT -6
Did they stop alternating panels between blocks? They did not. That's why Thursday evening is the second block of four on that panel. Score creep is typically a phenomenon for the fourth block of four on each panel. Actually, this year, Thursday night is the third block of five for the panel. Due to the increase in enrollment, they're doing six blocks on Thursday (3 for each panel), and still 4 total blocks on Friday.
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Post by hewhowaits on Feb 28, 2024 8:13:03 GMT -6
They did not. That's why Thursday evening is the second block of four on that panel. Score creep is typically a phenomenon for the fourth block of four on each panel. Actually, this year, Thursday night is the third block of five for the panel. Due to the increase in enrollment, they're doing six blocks on Thursday (3 for each panel), and still 4 total blocks on Friday. My knees already ache at the thought of a really long Thursday running around on that hard concrete floor.
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Post by dbalash on Feb 28, 2024 8:14:35 GMT -6
Marian Catholic: 6:00 PM Thursday
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Post by hewhowaits on Feb 28, 2024 8:28:31 GMT -6
Marian Catholic: 6:00 PM Thursday Oh how I miss knowing that Marian Catholic would be performing as the first band of the final block on Friday almost every year.
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Post by 70sguardchick on Feb 28, 2024 9:00:54 GMT -6
Actually, this year, Thursday night is the third block of five for the panel. Due to the increase in enrollment, they're doing six blocks on Thursday (3 for each panel), and still 4 total blocks on Friday. My knees already ache at the thought of a really long Thursday running around on that hard concrete floor. My feet hurt in anticipation …
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Post by gavintheeuph on Feb 28, 2024 10:44:35 GMT -6
Bartlett's Attending Grand Nationals
Prelims Time: Friday, 1 PM
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Post by crowncrawler on Feb 29, 2024 19:20:41 GMT -6
Confirmed: Argyle H.S., TX (announcement via Instagram)
Gonna be a great 2A field this year!
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Post by yayband914 on Feb 29, 2024 20:21:53 GMT -6
Speaking of 2A, I recently received word that Morton may be dropping. They might not, but it’s a possibility. If they do, they will definitely be at Grand Nats next year. But a year off is coming one way or the other.
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Post by ilikeguard on Feb 29, 2024 21:29:28 GMT -6
Confirmed: Argyle H.S., TX (announcement via Instagram) Gonna be a great 2A field this year! Just fell to my knees in Lucas Oil Stadium
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Post by statechamp1239 on Feb 29, 2024 22:29:52 GMT -6
Now, I kind of want to go on my first trip to GN.
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Post by neop on Feb 29, 2024 22:46:28 GMT -6
Confirmed: Argyle H.S., TX (announcement via Instagram) Gonna be a great 2A field this year! Oh this is gonna be good
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Post by ccbop on Mar 1, 2024 8:00:07 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year
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Post by neop on Mar 1, 2024 8:07:32 GMT -6
Campbell County H.S., KY will be performing at 5:00 PM on Thursday
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Post by dbalash on Mar 1, 2024 8:33:42 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year Not all inclusive: Bourbon County, KY (they always vacillate between A and AA) Argyle, TX Jenison, MI Reeths-Puffer, MI Morton, IL (if they stay enrolled) Tarpon Springs, FL (if they come) Others that could hover: Campbell County, KY Miamisburg, OH Greendale, WI Kiski Area (if they sign up)
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Post by bigtrombone on Mar 1, 2024 8:38:25 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year I can help here! 1. Tarpon Springs H.S., FL - While not officially confirmed, Tarpon Springs usually goes to Grand Nationals every 2 years, and this year would be a Grand Nats year for them. They are the best band in Florida, and arguably the Southeastern United States, and normally are a top half of finals band whenever they go to Grand Nats. They are the most recent AA band to win Grand Nationals, back in 2014. 2. Jenison H.S., MI &/or Kiski Area H.S., PA - Jenison is currently the best marching band program in the state of Michigan and their ascension in the last few years has been amazing to see. They are a pretty consistent semifinalist whenever they attend Grand Nats, but still have a little ways to go before they can be considered on the bubble for finals. With their progression, it should happen sooner than later. I also lumped Kiski Area into this group, even though they also aren't confirmed yet for this year. Kiski Area is one of the top programs in Pennsylvania alongside Norwin and won Class AA last year at Grand Nats. 3. Argyle H.S., TX - One of the stronger AA bands from the state of Texas alongside Roma. Argyle, I think, recently started doing BOA and have done very well, making finals at the Waco Regional a few times, and winning back-to-back AA titles at the San Antonio Super Regional. The announcement that they're coming to Grand Nats this year was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Depending on the show they bring, they should make it into semifinals.
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Post by mtnxdrew on Mar 1, 2024 8:38:50 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year If Tarpon comes, your top 4 is them, along with Morton, Argyle, and Jenison If Tarpon doesn’t come, add in Miamisburg or Kiski (if they come) I personally believe, based on the past few years, RP is decently far behind this group of bands
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Post by hewhowaits on Mar 1, 2024 8:39:06 GMT -6
Campbell County H.S., KY will be performing at 5:00 PM on Thursday Old news. Reeths-Puffer H.S., MI - Thursday 3:15 PM Campbell County H.S., KY - Thursday 5:00 PM Cheney H.S., WA - Friday 11:30 AM
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Post by ohioguy2 on Mar 1, 2024 9:09:24 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year If Tarpon comes, your top 4 is them, along with Morton, Argyle, and Jenison If Tarpon doesn’t come, add in Miamisburg or Kiski (if they come) I personally believe, based on the past few years, RP is decently far behind this group of bands Campbell County definitely belongs in this conversation. Worthington Kilbourne is another band that has been close to the AA semis bubble for the past few years as well.
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Post by crowncrawler on Mar 1, 2024 10:16:32 GMT -6
I’m not super familiar with all of them. Can someone give a list of the potential top 3 2A bands for this year Not all inclusive: Bourbon County, KY (they always vacillate between A and AA) Argyle, TX Jenison, MI Reeths-Puffer, MI Morton, IL (if they stay enrolled) Tarpon Springs, FL (if they come) Others that could hover: Campbell County, KY Miamisburg, OH Greendale, WI Kiski Area (if they sign up) Would throw Catawba Ridge, SC in there as well
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Post by marimba11 on Mar 1, 2024 16:15:57 GMT -6
Not all inclusive: Bourbon County, KY (they always vacillate between A and AA) Argyle, TX Jenison, MI Reeths-Puffer, MI Morton, IL (if they stay enrolled) Tarpon Springs, FL (if they come) Others that could hover: Campbell County, KY Miamisburg, OH Greendale, WI Kiski Area (if they sign up) Would throw Catawba Ridge, SC in there as well I think CR will soon be 3A, if not this season probably within the next two.
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Post by bigtrombone on Mar 5, 2024 8:28:08 GMT -6
Cass H.S., GA has a possible contest listed on 11/16. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Georgia's marching season goes through mid-November. Regardless, might be one to keep an eye on. So...., I just checked Cass's calendar again today. This contest is now being listed as "competition" and now spans the full 3 days of Grand Nationals from the 14th-16th. Not officially confirmed, but it is looking extremely likely we're going to be seeing Cass at Grand Nationals this Fall.
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Post by es203 on Mar 5, 2024 8:52:34 GMT -6
Cass H.S., GA has a possible contest listed on 11/16. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Georgia's marching season goes through mid-November. Regardless, might be one to keep an eye on. So...., I just checked Cass's calendar again today. This contest is now being listed as "competition" and now spans the full 3 days of Grand Nationals from the 14th-16th. Not officially confirmed, but it is looking extremely likely we're going to be seeing Cass at Grand Nationals this Fall. This is a massive W
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