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Post by aiden on Mar 2, 2024 19:44:57 GMT -6
There used to be another NPP near Piqua that was shuttered in the 1960s, and the Zimmer coal power plant in Moscow OH was supposed to be an NPP, but was converted due to costs being too high
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Post by aiden on Apr 3, 2024 16:02:06 GMT -6
Not much has happened in this thread lol
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Post by lostinthebands on Apr 3, 2024 18:56:23 GMT -6
Not much has happened in this thread lol Unfortunately not. Hopefully we will see more activity once the school year ends and marching band kicks back into action!
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Post by aiden on Apr 4, 2024 0:38:34 GMT -6
Not much has happened in this thread lol Unfortunately not. Hopefully we will see more activity once the school year ends and marching band kicks back into action! it gets quite bland when there's nothing happening
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Post by Allohak on Apr 5, 2024 4:49:10 GMT -6
Unfortunately not. Hopefully we will see more activity once the school year ends and marching band kicks back into action! it gets quite bland when there's nothing happening guard season is plenty entertaining and exciting
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 5, 2024 5:27:42 GMT -6
it gets quite bland when there's nothing happening guard season is plenty entertaining and exciting MEPA Championships are Saturday at the Nutter Center.
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Post by aiden on Apr 5, 2024 9:12:07 GMT -6
guard season is plenty entertaining and exciting MEPA Championships are Saturday at the Nutter Center. I'll be attending as a spectator
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 5, 2024 9:54:53 GMT -6
MEPA Championships are Saturday at the Nutter Center. I'll be attending as a spectator Make sure you're there for the Elementary Color Guard performances. You'll likely be amazed at the skill level some of those 2nd through 6th graders display. Cheer on my granddaughter ( Allohak's daughter) in The Little Belles.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Apr 5, 2024 16:16:39 GMT -6
The entire OMEA Marching Band calendar is usually released at the state teachers convention, which takes place next weekend. We should know the full schedule by February 3. OMEA Season Calendar ... September 28thRevere Marion Local Avon LakeSpringfield (Toledo) Watkins Memorial Grove City Meadowbrook Valley Northwestern The center line of the total eclipse this Monday (April 8th) passes directly over the press box at Avon Lake Memorial Stadium, where this contest will be held more than five months later. (Avon Lake has also regularly hosted a DCI Open Class competition, typically in early August, but that's not on the schedule this year.)* In Ohio, the only other high schools fielding competition bands that are approached by the eclipse path center line appear to be Amherst Steele H.S. (about a half-mile from center; tagging neop ), Avon H.S. (about three miles from center), and Mississinaw Valley H.S. (also about three miles from center). Next closest after that may be Marion Local H.S. (about five miles from center). Here's hoping for sunny weather! *Edited to add: I see that Rogues Hollow Regiment drum & bugle corps has Avon Lake on their schedule for July 20. On DCI's site that date is listed as "TBD Ohio."
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Apr 8, 2024 14:17:52 GMT -6
OMEA Season Calendar ... September 28th... Avon Lake ... The center line of the total eclipse this Monday (April 8th) passes directly over the press box at Avon Lake Memorial Stadium, where this contest will be held more than five months later. (Avon Lake has also regularly hosted a DCI Open Class competition, typically in early August, but that's not on the schedule this year.) In Ohio, the only other high schools fielding competition bands that are approached by the eclipse path center line appear to be Amherst Steele H.S. (about a half-mile from center; tagging neop ), Avon H.S. (about three miles from center), and Mississinawa Valley H.S. (also about three miles from center). Next closest after that may be Marion Local H.S. (about five miles from center). Here's hoping for sunny weather! Well that was really cool! In August 2017, I traveled to southern Illinois to be at the location of longest totality in Giant City State Park. That was 2 minutes 40 seconds. This time, the location with longest totality was in Mexico, but even here in Cleveland, we got 3 minutes 49 seconds, and I watched it from my backyard. There were some high hazy clouds but they didn't wreck it. A total eclipse doesn't get any less amazing the second time you see it. Starting about half hour before totality, the light outside seems weird and it slowly gets dimmer and dimmer until that last sliver vanishes and boom, it's dark all around, and you can look right at the sun and see a black spot surrounded by a cool glow, and temperatures are noticeably cooler. (And this time there was an orange bead visible on the bottom edge almost the whole time. I've emailed an astronomer friend for an explanation, but I got an auto-reply that she's traveling to see the eclipse. She lives in Connecticut, so I expect she went up to Vermont.) If you ever have the chance, take it. If you're reasonably close to the path of totality in 2045, take the trip into the path to get the full experience. (That one will cross the country like the 2017 eclipse and will be six minutes long in Florida.) It will be worth it. What makes me happiest is that some neighbors, a man and his young son, were home but were just ignoring it until I knocked on the door a few minutes before totality and urged them to come outside. They were blown away. The excitement of that little kid was just a joy to see.
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Post by aiden on Apr 8, 2024 16:43:16 GMT -6
The center line of the total eclipse this Monday (April 8th) passes directly over the press box at Avon Lake Memorial Stadium, where this contest will be held more than five months later. (Avon Lake has also regularly hosted a DCI Open Class competition, typically in early August, but that's not on the schedule this year.) In Ohio, the only other high schools fielding competition bands that are approached by the eclipse path center line appear to be Amherst Steele H.S. (about a half-mile from center; tagging neop ), Avon H.S. (about three miles from center), and Mississinawa Valley H.S. (also about three miles from center). Next closest after that may be Marion Local H.S. (about five miles from center). Here's hoping for sunny weather! Well that was really cool! In August 2017, I traveled to southern Illinois to be at the location of longest totality in Giant City State Park. That was 2 minutes 40 seconds. This time, the location with longest totality was in Mexico, but even here in Cleveland, we got 3 minutes 49 seconds, and I watched it from my backyard. There were some high hazy clouds but they didn't wreck it. A total eclipse doesn't get any less amazing the second time you see it. Starting about half hour before totality, the light outside seems weird and it slowly gets dimmer and dimmer until that last sliver vanishes and boom, it's dark all around, and you can look right at the sun and see a black spot surrounded by a cool glow, and temperatures are noticeably cooler. (And this time there was an orange bead visible on the bottom edge almost the whole time. I've emailed an astronomer friend for an explanation, but I got an auto-reply that she's traveling to see the eclipse. She lives in Connecticut, so I expect she went up to Vermont.) If you ever have the chance, take it. If you're reasonably close to the path of totality in 2045, take the trip into the path to get the full experience. (That one will cross the country like the 2017 eclipse and will be six minutes long in Florida.) It will be worth it. What makes me happiest is that some neighbors, a man and his young son, were home but were just ignoring it until I knocked on the door a few minutes before totality and urged them to come outside. They were blown away. The excitement of that little kid was just a joy to see. Had roughly the same in east Kettering / west Beavercreek
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Apr 8, 2024 21:57:54 GMT -6
The center line of the total eclipse this Monday (April 8th) passes directly over the press box at Avon Lake Memorial Stadium... Well that was really cool! ... And this time there was an orange bead visible on the bottom edge almost the whole time. I've emailed an astronomer friend for an explanation, but I got an auto-reply that she's traveling to see the eclipse. She lives in Connecticut, so I expect she went up to Vermont. She actually went down to Texas, and by the time she replied, I had found the answer: the red spot (actually several were visible for those looking closely) was a prominence, which Wikipedia explains is "a large, bright red plasma and magnetic field structure extending outward from the Sun's surface, often in a loop shape. Prominences are anchored to the Sun's surface in the photosphere, and extend outwards into the solar corona. While the corona consists of extremely hot plasma, prominences contain much cooler plasma, similar in composition to that of the chromosphere." And that little red dot probably was bigger than the Earth.
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Post by lostinthebands on Apr 9, 2024 21:26:15 GMT -6
Well that was really cool! ... And this time there was an orange bead visible on the bottom edge almost the whole time. I've emailed an astronomer friend for an explanation, but I got an auto-reply that she's traveling to see the eclipse. She lives in Connecticut, so I expect she went up to Vermont. She actually went down to Texas, and by the time she replied, I had found the answer: the red spot (actually several were visible for those looking closely) was a prominence, which Wikipedia explains is "a large, bright red plasma and magnetic field structure extending outward from the Sun's surface, often in a loop shape. Prominences are anchored to the Sun's surface in the photosphere, and extend outwards into the solar corona. While the corona consists of extremely hot plasma, prominences contain much cooler plasma, similar in composition to that of the chromosphere." And that little red dot probably was bigger than the Earth. Texas would find a way to be bigger, just sayin 🤷
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Post by ohioguy2 on May 2, 2024 8:32:42 GMT -6
I don't think I've seen a post about this, but recently the Ohio High School Athletic Association released its enrollment numbers for the next two years. The way the OHSAA calculates its figures is by counting current students in grades 9-11, and using their figures for next year, since those are the students that will be in grade 10-12. Therefore, with some obvious fluctuation, we can get an idea of what schools' BOA enrollment numbers will be next year. www.ohsaa.org/school-resources/school-enrollmentA few notable BOA schools: Archbishop Alter - 391 (comfortably in A) Archbishop Carroll - 528 (still in A but starting to creep towards AA) Beavercreek - 1750 (probably still in AAA) Bellbrook - 676 (AA) Centerville - 2014 (AAAA) Central Crossing - 1221 (AA) Dublin Coffman - 1361 (probably AAA) Fairfield - 2372 (AAAA) Forest Hills (Anderson + Turpin) - Around 1700 (Probably AAA) Grove City - 1371 (AAA if they ever come again) Hamilton - 2162 (should be AAAA, but has been AAA but I'm not sure) Hilliard Bradley - 1304 (should still be in AA, could move to AAA) Kettering Fairmont - 1744 (should be in AAA) Kings - 1075 (AA) Lakota East - 2086 (should be in AAAA, not sure how they're staying in AAA) Lakota West - 2364 (same as East) Miamisburg - 1137 (AA) Milford - 1504 (AAA) Northmont - 1138 (AA) Oak Hills - 1861 (could move to AAAA) Springboro - 1483 (AA) West Clermont - 1771 (probably still AAA) William Mason - 2590 (AAAA) Worthington Kilbourne - 1153 (AA)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 2, 2024 11:59:45 GMT -6
I don't think I've seen a post about this, but recently the Ohio High School Athletic Association released its enrollment numbers for the next two years. The way the OHSAA calculates its figures is by counting current students in grades 9-11, and using their figures for next year, since those are the students that will be in grade 10-12. Therefore, with some obvious fluctuation, we can get an idea of what schools' BOA enrollment numbers will be next year. www.ohsaa.org/school-resources/school-enrollmentA few notable BOA schools ... I see Norton is 486.
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Post by aiden on May 2, 2024 12:52:33 GMT -6
Which ohio high schools could move up to Class AAAA in a few years?
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Post by Allohak on May 2, 2024 14:30:40 GMT -6
Which ohio high schools could move up to Class AAAA in a few years? The fact of the matter here is that the way districts are set up in Ohio, there's not many. Most of the districts which would qualify as AAAA schools in BOA are either urban districts with 10+ schools (your Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, etc City districts) or large suburban districts with multiple high schools all in BOA AA range. By my filtering, there are only a handful of high schools in Ohio which will or should be AAAA for the coming fall (current 9-11 numbers): Mason - 2566 Fairfield - 2247 Lakota West - 2124 Centerville - 2049 Hamilton - 1966 (they have what appears to be a HUGE 2023-24 freshman class compared to their overall district numbers) Lakota East - 1869 Gahanna Lincoln - 1857 Kettering Fairmont and Mentor are both getting smaller, not bigger, so not likely to jump above a threshold they're currently below ...and that's really about it. If the Worthington or Hilliard or Olentangy or Dublin or South-Western (Grove City, Central Crossing, Westland, Franklin Heights) schools were to combine down to only 1 or 2 high schools instead of 3/4/5, there could be some more
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 2, 2024 16:06:17 GMT -6
Which ohio high schools could move up to Class AAAA in a few years? The fact of the matter here is that the way districts are set up in Ohio, there's not many. Most of the districts which would qualify as AAAA schools in BOA are either urban districts with 10+ schools (your Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, etc City districts) or large suburban districts with multiple high schools all in BOA AA range. ... If the Worthington or Hilliard or Olentangy or Dublin or South-Western (Grove City, Central Crossing, Westland, Franklin Heights) schools were to combine down to only 1 or 2 high schools instead of 3/4/5, there could be some more Olentangy is going in the opposite direction, having opened its fourth high school just six years ago. (The two older schools, Olentangy and Olentangy Liberty, have competition bands. The two newer schools, Olentangy Orange and Olentangy Berlin, have festival bands.) Ohio's seventh-largest city and largest suburb is Parma, that place of white socks and pink flamingos just south of Cleveland, although at 81,000, the city's population is 20% below where it was at its peak in 1970. Parma's school district also serves the adjacent suburbs of Parma Heights (pop. 21,000) and Seven Hills (pop. 12,000). For more than 50 years, the district had three high schools: Parma Senior H.S. (est. 1953), Valley Forge H.S. (est. 1961), and Normandy H.S. (est. 1968). The three schools share(d) one football stadium, Byers Field, adjacent to the once bustling Parmatown Mall. I saw my first drum corps shows there in 1989, which was won by the lately lamented "Garfield Cadets," as they then were named, performing the music of Les Miserables. The two big drum corps history websites -- Drum Corps Xperience and From The Pressbox -- mistakenly give the location of that event as Cleveland. I assure you it was Parma. I remember my band director in a different northeast Ohio town, at a time when Parma's population had fallen only about 10% from its high point, saying that it had been a mistake for Parma to open three high schools. He said they should just have expanded Parma Senior as the population grew, because as population declined, it would be cheaper to maintain one building than three. Finally, more than 30 years later, the Parma school board decided he was right. They closed and demolished Parma Senior H.S. in 2023 and plan to eventually consolidate to one high school to be located on that site. If, that is, they can ever pass a school levy, something which hasn't happened since 2011. Based on the current enrollment at Normandy and Valley Forge, that new school would have a 10th-12th grade enrollment of 2,300, which would put it behind only William Mason among Ohio schools. Both surviving Parma high schools, like all but two Cuyahoga County high schools at this time and like almost all Cuyahoga Co. high schools for the past fifty years, have festival bands not competition bands. (And with 1.2 million residents, Cuyahoga Co. is second in Ohio only to Franklin Co., where the state's capital and largest city, Columbus, is located. Cuyahoga appears to have some 47 public high schools in 31 districts, plus another 28 private high schools.) But among the rare exceptions to that rule, for a few years in the early 2000s, was Valley Forge H.S. That's apparently still a source of pride for some Valley Forge graduate, given that the Wikipedia page about the school, which otherwise is not particularly expansive, notes how Valley Forge's was "the first band in the Parma City School district to earn the right to attend and perform at" OMEA's state finals. First and only, I would add. And of course, as has been amply discussed here, more than 110 bands have qualified for state finals every year since the late 1980s, and accomplishing that feat, while not entirely without distinction (not every band manages it), requires only performing at approximately the level needed to score 60 points at a BOA event. All that said, as I mentioned a few months ago in a discussion of the Sudler Shield awards, I do wonder how current band students at a school with a storied past disconnected from their current experience feel about such notes. How do kids in a festival band feel when they're told that they used to compete (and compete with some success)? Speaking of which: what's the most successful competition band that no longer competes? Are there any former BOA champions in that category? I note all this just by way of a bookmark for the future. Although current circumstances make it seem very unlikely, I think it would be cool if someday Parma were a powerhouse competition band. I'd really dig a show called "The Kielbasa Kid."
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Post by Allohak on May 2, 2024 17:33:04 GMT -6
what's the most successful competition band that no longer competes? Are there any former BOA champions in that category? Well, I guess it depends on your definition of "no longer competes" - 3x BOA Grand National champion Rocky Mount, NC springs immediately to mind. Their website states they "perform at local/regional events that can include competitions or events on university campuses", not really sure what that means, per say, as the cover photo shows something closer to high-school-band-emulating-small-HBCU-style-celebration-band (which in case it isn't clear is not at all a bad thing, love me some HBCU band)
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Post by aiden on May 2, 2024 18:51:28 GMT -6
Which ohio high schools could move up to Class AAAA in a few years? The fact of the matter here is that the way districts are set up in Ohio, there's not many. Most of the districts which would qualify as AAAA schools in BOA are either urban districts with 10+ schools (your Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, etc City districts) or large suburban districts with multiple high schools all in BOA AA range. By my filtering, there are only a handful of high schools in Ohio which will or should be AAAA for the coming fall (current 9-11 numbers): Mason - 2566 Fairfield - 2247 Lakota West - 2124 Centerville - 2049 Hamilton - 1966 (they have what appears to be a HUGE 2023-24 freshman class compared to their overall district numbers) Lakota East - 1869 Gahanna Lincoln - 1857 Kettering Fairmont and Mentor are both getting smaller, not bigger, so not likely to jump above a threshold they're currently below ...and that's really about it. If the Worthington or Hilliard or Olentangy or Dublin or South-Western (Grove City, Central Crossing, Westland, Franklin Heights) schools were to combine down to only 1 or 2 high schools instead of 3/4/5, there could be some more Kettering Fairmont and Mentor are comfortably in AAA
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 2, 2024 20:14:04 GMT -6
Kettering Fairmont and Mentor are comfortably in AAA I think Mentor was Ohio's largest high school about 20 years ago.
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Post by Allohak on May 3, 2024 5:02:29 GMT -6
Kettering Fairmont and Mentor are comfortably in AAA I think Mentor was Ohio's largest high school about 20 years ago. Until the 2007-08 school year when Mason passed them and haven't looked like getting caught since
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Post by ohioguy2 on May 3, 2024 5:04:49 GMT -6
I think Mentor was Ohio's largest high school about 20 years ago. Until the 2007-08 school year when Mason passed them and haven't looked like getting caught since I believe Oak Hills actually held the title for awhile before Mentor did as well.
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Post by ccbop on May 3, 2024 11:34:10 GMT -6
I just want to compare Campbell County to some of these larger bands since they often don’t compete against other KY bands in the first place. Does anyone know the rough size of some of the bands mentioned above because Campbell is, according to staff members, the largest 2A band in the country with roughly 210 members.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 3, 2024 15:30:42 GMT -6
I just want to compare Campbell County to some of these larger bands since they often don’t compete against other KY bands in the first place. Does anyone know the rough size of some of the bands mentioned above because Campbell is, according to staff members, the largest 2A band in the country with roughly 210 members. That's impressive these days. Historically there have been bigger 2A bands than that, sometimes with more than 300 members. But lately, the counts are lower. I speak only of what I've seen of Ohio bands.
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Post by neop on May 3, 2024 17:00:15 GMT -6
Some OMEA-related enrollment things I'm noticing:
I was wondering if Avon Lake would creep back into class AA territory this year, but it looks like they'll fall short. That is to their advantage, I think, as the only year in recent memory where they competed in class AA resulted in them missing state entirely (2021). The current Avon Lake band is far better than that one, though, so maybe they'd compete well?
I thought maybe this would be the year Amherst Steele finally got back up above the class AA line, but I think they'll come a bit short again. They've been competing up a class (they'd be class A by enrollment) for a handful of years now.
I feel like I remember wondering how Copley wasn't in class AA some years, but it looks like there is no question they are A this year.
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Post by neop on May 3, 2024 21:06:56 GMT -6
In fact, I did some enrollment math for all the bands that competed in OMEA last year and I have some findings. I used the class each band below competed in at state OR at the majority of their competitions for these lists. If OMEA were to use the same enrollment numbers as OHSAA, the following would be true.
Bands that should be forced up a class:
Bethel (C -> B) Brookville (C -> B) Claymont (C -> B) Coshocton (C -> B) Philo (C -> B) River Valley (C -> B) Rossford (C -> B)
Bloom-Carroll (B -> A) Buckeye (B -> A) Licking Valley (B -> A) Maumee (B -> A)
Franklin Heights (A -> AA) Teays Valley (A -> AA)
Bands that may now drop a class if they so desire:
Norton (A -> B)
While these are the bands that could change class based on new enrollment numbers, there are a number of additional bands that chose to compete in a higher class than their enrollment would dictate. These bands could also, theoretically, drop in class if they choose to, though their new enrollment numbers did not indicate a change in class.
Amherst Steele (A -> AA) Berne Union (C -> AA) -- A huge outlier with under 200 kids enrolled at the school taking on the biggest and best in OMEA and regularly winning. The only band to jump 3 classes. Black River (C -> B) Cloverleaf (B -> A) Crestwood (B -> A) Deer Park (C -> B) Fairbanks (C -> A) -- One of two bands to jump 2 classes. Why do they do this? This one is so baffling to me. It does not benefit them at all and they would be better off in class C. Field (B -> A) Minford (C -> B) Newton (C -> B) Northwest [McDermott] (C -> B) Norton (B -> A) -- Assuming they don't drop to B this year Portsmouth West (C -> B) Ridgewood (C -> B) Southeastern (C -> B) Van Buren (C -> A) -- One of two bands to jump 2 classes. Sort of like the Berne Union of the north, but not quite as strong.
There are even more bands than this that compete up one or more classes at local events, but those bands all drop to their actual class at state.
Bonus: - The largest high school in the state (according to OHSAA) is William Mason - There are eight high schools that would fit into class 4A in BOA: William Mason, Fairfield, Lakota West, Hamilton, Lakota East, Centerville, Oak Hills, Gahanna Lincoln (festival band) - There are 41 high schools with under 100 students enrolled in grades 10-12. Eight of these are under 50, and two are under 20 (Put-In-Bay at 17 and Kelleys Island at 10, both of which are located on islands on Lake Erie)
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Post by neop on May 8, 2024 10:49:04 GMT -6
They did make it to state in 2004 and 2006-12, but never received a Superior rating. When I saw them attending multiple competitions in festival performance last year, I thought they might be thinking about returning. The program they performed at those shows wasn’t too far from competitive caliber in terms of drill, though the music choices were still halftime-oriented. Westerville Central @ OMEA Pickerington North 2023... I saw them live in exhibition at the Newark competition on the last Saturday of the regular OMEA season (before driving up for that rainy night in Brunswick). I see from my notes that I was chatting with penelope (who hasn't posted here for more than four years) and her mom as I put W. Central down for a score (if they had been scored) of 77, which would be a high-ish II rating. Update on this: Westerville Central H.S. will return to competition this year! This will be their first competition show since 2016. They will be competing in class AA at the Westerville, Licking Valley, and Thomas Worthington OMEA shows this year. I don’t think they’ll be doing MSBA this year, though. Maybe they’ll go back soon. In other good news, Northwest H.S. from Canal Fulton, who tried their hand at competing last year for the first time, will return to competition this year with performances at Norton and New Philadelphia. They will also attend State if they make it. Also exciting but more expected: Chippewa H.S. will continue their competitive comeback after making their return to the competitive stage last year. Their show is entitled Pressure and will feature Under Pressure by Queen, Creep by Radiohead, and Pressure by Billy Joel.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 8, 2024 15:21:05 GMT -6
Also exciting but more expected: Chippewa H.S. will continue their competitive comeback after making their return to the competitive stage last year. Their show is entitled Pressure and will feature Under Pressure by Queen, Creep by Radiohead, and Pressure by Billy Joel. Nice! On all three counts. As regards Chippewa: Van Buren (Ohio) did almost the same show in 2014. It was titled Under Pressure and featured "Pressure" by Billy Joel, "Creep" by Radiohead, and a Queen song, but not "Under Pressure": they played "Bohemian Rhapsody" instead. They competed in Class C that year and they were the only band in that class to receive a Superior rating at State Finals. While I thought that three or four other Class C bands (like Dawson-Bryant and Wellington) also deserved that rating, Van Buren was by far the best of them. This was another occasion where I emailed the director with my congratulations, and he was kind enough to reply. They had just 14 winds, 6 battery, 6 pit, and 4 guard. (No, I didn't remember all that. And man, halftime audiences are just the worst.) Not the smallest band I've seen get a Superior rating, but still pretty tiny!
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