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Post by neop on May 23, 2024 0:22:16 GMT -6
I see from the MSBA page that Valley View H.S., OH from Germantown has signed up for Class AAA Championships. I don’t think they’ve ever competed before (not in BOA).
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Post by ohioguy2 on May 23, 2024 4:25:23 GMT -6
I see from the MSBA page that Valley View H.S., OH from Germantown has signed up for Class AAA Championships. I don’t think they’ve ever competed before (not in BOA and probably not in OMEA). Valley View competed for a few years in OMEA before the pandemic. They recently changed marching band directors I believe, so I am pretty sure this is the first time they have ever done MSBA.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 23, 2024 4:52:28 GMT -6
I see from the MSBA page that Valley View H.S., OH from Germantown has signed up for Class AAA Championships. I don’t think they’ve ever competed before (not in BOA and probably not in OMEA). Valley View competed for a few years in OMEA before the pandemic. They recently changed marching band directors I believe, so I am pretty sure this is the first time they have ever done MSBA. Mason Invitational, October 19, 2013 - 5th in Class AA, 23rd overall. Mason Invitational, October 18, 2014 - 6th in Class AAA, 22nd overall.
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Post by ohioguy2 on May 23, 2024 6:31:01 GMT -6
Valley View competed for a few years in OMEA before the pandemic. They recently changed marching band directors I believe, so I am pretty sure this is the first time they have ever done MSBA. Mason Invitational, October 19, 2013 - 5th in Class AA, 23rd overall. Mason Invitational, October 18, 2014 - 6th in Class AAA, 22nd overall. That’s right, those slipped my mind. They were still by any metric an “OMEA band” at that point but they did dabble a little bit in MSBA. After that they went strictly OMEA. The last record I can find of them competing at all was 2019. I know they did the Loveland OMEA show, not sure if they did any others.
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Post by neop on May 23, 2024 18:58:22 GMT -6
I wonder if we'll see any new faces in OMEA this year? I've got a few bands on my wishlist to start competing. Of course there are past favorites like Pickerington North who I'd like to see return, but I'd love to see a band like Lake, Canfield, Massillon Jackson, Lorain, Westlake, or Olentangy Orange take the leap. Not that any of them appear to be doing so any time soon, but I think they'd find success (particularly Canfield, who consistently seems to be performing shows that are 1 step away from competitive caliber).
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Post by aiden on May 23, 2024 21:17:27 GMT -6
I wonder if we'll see any new faces in OMEA this year? I've got a few bands on my wishlist to start competing. Of course there are past favorites like Pickerington North who I'd like to see return, but I'd love to see a band like Lake, Canfield, Massillon Jackson, Lorain, or Olentangy Orange take the leap. Not that any of them appear to be doing so any time soon, but I think they'd find success (particularly Canfield, who consistently seems to be performing shows that are 1 step away from competitive caliber). Pickerington North is the one I want to see transition back to being a competitive band the most, but Olentangy Orange or Lorain would be pretty cool to see at OMEA
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 23, 2024 22:32:22 GMT -6
I see from the MSBA page that Valley View H.S., OH from Germantown has signed up for Class AAA Championships. I don’t think they’ve ever competed before (not in BOA and probably not in OMEA). Valley View competed for a few years in OMEA before the pandemic. They recently changed marching band directors I believe, so I am pretty sure this is the first time they have ever done MSBA. These are the competitive appearances by Valley View of which I am aware over the past ten years. This list is possibly not complete in appearances and obviously not complete in results. I find one MSBA appearance and multiple OMEA appearances. In OMEA they competed in Class B. Additions and corrections would be most welcome! OMEA Hamilton -- Sep. 27, 2014 -- placement unknown OMEA Springfield Shawnee -- Oct. 25, 2014 -- placement unknown MSBA Mason -- Oct. 15, 2014 -- 6th in Class 3A and 22nd overall, score 57.70 OMEA Ohio State (Buckeye Invitational) -- Oct. 3, 2015 -- best guard in class; placement could have been anywhere from 4th to 8th (of 8) in class * OMEA Kettering Fairmont -- Oct. 10, 2015 -- placement unknown OMEA Anderson (Forest Hills) -- Oct. 24, 2015 -- placement unknown Their 2015 show title was "Revealed." OMEA Hamilton -- Sep. 24, 2016 -- placement unknown OMEA Kettering Fairmont -- Oct. 8, 2016 -- placement could have been anywhere from 4th-6th (of 6) in class * Their 2016 show title was "Redemption." OMEA Loveland -- Sep. 30, 2017 -- placement could have been anywhere from 4th-7th (of 7) in class OMEA Kettering Fairmont -- Oct. 14, 2017 -- placement unknown OMEA Kettering Fairmont -- Oct. 6, 2018 -- placement unknown OMEA Turpin (Forest Hills) -- Oct. 20, 2018 -- placement unknown OMEA Loveland -- Oct. 5, 2019 -- 4th place (of 4) in class (we know this thanks to ohioguy2 ) *I was at these two shows, but I arrived late at the 2016 Kettering show (having started my day at the OMEA Lexington show) and don't remember if I saw them perform.
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Post by neop on May 23, 2024 23:04:52 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall and I seem to have picked a good year to do it because the very short list of attendees I've found looks great. I'm gonna keep a running list here:
Attending:
Class AA Beavercreek Dublin Scioto Forest Hills Grove City Hoover Kings Lakota East Pickerington Central Rutherford B. Hayes Walnut Hills
Class A Avon Lake Licking Valley St. Edward
Class B Wauseon
Class C Grove City Christian
Exhibition (these bands didn't compete as of last year but in case they decide to I'll include their classes in parentheses) Cuyahoga Falls (AA) Pickerington North (AA)
Tentative:
Class AA Avon Perry
Exhibition (these bands didn't compete as of last year but in case they decide to I'll include their classes in parentheses) Ashland (A) Massillon Washington (AA)
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 27, 2024 1:07:29 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall and I seem to have picked a good year to do it because the very short list of (competing) attendees I've found looks great. I'm gonna keep a running list here ... I hope you have a great time! Does anyone know where one can track down the history of this event? The OSU band website (and the Internet Archive records thereof) are pretty spotty. I can find references there to the Buckeye Invitational back to 2007, but often with no more than the date. I attended it in either 1988 or 1989, and I have found references to it going back to 1983 on the Grove City H.S. band website -- which has a list of that band's awards going back to the early 1970s. In the early-mid 1980s, Grove City refers to this event as "The Ohio State University Invitational." (Grove City won the contest twice in those years and then performed as an "honor band" in the years after: 1984 and 1987.) Searching online for that name, I came across the 1946 Bexley H.S. yearbook, which says that school's band, then in just its fourth year (and with 93 members, at least in the accompanying photograph), "has been placed on the Ohio State University invitational list, an honor given to only seven other school musical organizations in the state." Do the roots of the Buckeye Invitational go back so far? Or was Bexley in 1946 the recipient of some other honor? Curiously, Grove City, which has also appeared at this contest several times since 2007, has no reference to it during the twenty years before that. The Wayback Machine has the OSU band schedule back to 2004, but this event isn't listed in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Was the Buckeye Invitational on hold for two decades? Anyway, here's what I know about the date, highest scoring band, and number of attendees for each year: 1983 -- Grove City 1984 1985 1986 -- Grove City 1987 1988 1989? ... Oct. 6, 2007 -- Grove City Oct. 4, 2008 -– Central Crossing; 32 bands (including OSU?) Oct. 3, 2009 Oct. 16, 2010 -- Grove City (?) Oct. 15, 2011 -- Grove City (?); 39 high school bands (8 Class C, 9 Class B, 4 Class A, 10 Class AA, 8 Festival) and OSU Oct. 13, 2012 -- Grove City (?); 33 bands (including OSU?) Oct. 12, 2013 -- 33 high school bands and OSU Oct. 11, 2014 -- Lakota West; 42 high school bands (7 Class C, 7 Class B, 8 Class A, 10 Class AA, 10 Festival) and OSU Oct. 3, 2015 -- Grove City; 38 high school bands (7 Class C, 8 Class B, 4 Class A, 9 Class AA, 10 Festival) and OSU Oct. 15, 2016 -- Dublin Jerome (?); 41 high school bands (3 Class C, 9 Class B, 7 Class A, 13 Class AA, 9 Festival) and OSU Oct. 14, 2017 -- Grove City; 43 high school bands (5 Class C, 5 Class B, 8 Class A, 14 Class AA, 11 Festival) and OSU Sep. 29, 2018 -- Dublin Jerome; 44 high school bands (3 Class C, 8 Class B, 6 Class A, 15 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Sep. 28, 2019 -- William Mason; 44 high school bands (8 Class C, 4 Class B, 8 Class A, 13 Class AA, 11 Festival) and OSU 2020 -- no event Oct. 16, 2021 -- Lakota East; 44 high school bands (6 Class C, 6 Class B, 6 Class A, 14 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Oct. 15, 2022 -- Beavercreek; 44 high school bands (6 Class C, 6 Class B, 6 Class A, 14 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Oct. 14, 2023 -- Dublin Coffman; 44 high school bands (5 Class C, 7 Class B, 7 Class A, 12 Class AA, 13 Festival) and OSU These counts are as scheduled not necessarily as performed (e.g., Avon (Ohio) was scheduled for 2023 but didn't attend). I have the complete schedules and announced results for 2015-2023, plus the schedule for 2011. As a reminder: all that is announced are caption winners (by class) and state qualifiers. It would be possible (if not too likely) for a band to not place first in any caption and still win overall. Thanks to ohioguy2 , we have the placements for 2019 and the scores for 2021-2023. I've seen the full recaps for three of the past ten years and have reports of a handful of placements or scores from other years. Corrections and additions would be most welcome!
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Post by yourworstideeas on May 28, 2024 11:51:46 GMT -6
I'd love to see Westerville Central become a competitive band like the other 2 high school marching bands in the district I'd also love to see other nearby schools like Thomas Worthington or Olentangy Orange attend BOA and MSBAWhile Olentangy Orange is currently a festival band I honestly think they would do relatively good at MSBA if they go competitive like Olentangy Liberty From what I know Thomas Worthington will compete in BOA this year at the Obetz Regional, but I don't think that they will be doing Grand Nationals.
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Post by ohmbandfan26 on May 28, 2024 12:22:03 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall and I seem to have picked a good year to do it because the very short list of (competing) attendees I've found looks great. I'm gonna keep a running list here ... I hope you have a great time! Does anyone know where one can track down the history of this event? The OSU band website (and the Internet Archive records thereof) are pretty spotty. I can find references there to the Buckeye Invitational back to 2007, but often with no more than the date. I attended it in either 1988 or 1989, and I have found references to it going back to 1983 on the Grove City H.S. band website -- which has a list of that band's awards going back to the early 1970s. In the early-mid 1980s, Grove City refers to this event as "The Ohio State University Invitational." (Grove City won the contest twice in those years and then performed as an "honor band" in the years after: 1984 and 1987.) Searching online for that name, I came across the 1946 Bexley H.S. yearbook, which says that school's band, then in just its fourth year (and with 93 members, at least in the accompanying photograph), "has been placed on the Ohio State University invitational list, an honor given to only seven other school musical organizations in the state." Do the roots of the Buckeye Invitational go back so far? Or was Bexley in 1946 the recipient of some other honor? Curiously, Grove City, which has also appeared at this contest several times since 2007, has no reference to it during the twenty years before that. The Wayback Machine has the OSU band schedule back to 2004, but this event isn't listed in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Was the Buckeye Invitational on hold for two decades? Anyway, here's what I know about the date, highest scoring band, and number of attendees for each year: 1983 -- Grove City 1984 1985 1986 -- Grove City 1987 1988 1989? ... Oct. 6, 2007 -- Grove City Oct. 4, 2008 -– Central Crossing; 32 bands (including OSU?) Oct. 3, 2009 Oct. 16, 2010 -- Grove City (?) Oct. 15, 2011 -- Grove City (?); 39 high school bands (8 Class C, 9 Class B, 4 Class A, 10 Class AA, 8 Festival) and OSU Oct. 13, 2012 -- Grove City (?); 33 bands (including OSU?) Oct. 12, 2013 -- 33 high school bands and OSU Oct. 11, 2014 -- Lakota West; 42 high school bands (7 Class C, 7 Class B, 8 Class A, 10 Class AA, 10 Festival) and OSU Oct. 3, 2015 -- Grove City; 38 high school bands (7 Class C, 8 Class B, 4 Class A, 9 Class AA, 10 Festival) and OSU Oct. 15, 2016 -- Dublin Jerome (?); 41 high school bands (3 Class C, 9 Class B, 7 Class A, 13 Class AA, 9 Festival) and OSU Oct. 14, 2017 -- Grove City; 43 high school bands (5 Class C, 5 Class B, 8 Class A, 14 Class AA, 11 Festival) and OSU Sep. 29, 2018 -- Dublin Jerome; 44 high school bands (3 Class C, 8 Class B, 6 Class A, 15 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Sep. 28, 2019 -- William Mason; 44 high school bands (8 Class C, 4 Class B, 8 Class A, 13 Class AA, 11 Festival) and OSU 2020 -- no event Oct. 16, 2021 -- Lakota East; 44 high school bands (6 Class C, 6 Class B, 6 Class A, 14 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Oct. 15, 2022 -- Beavercreek; 44 high school bands (6 Class C, 6 Class B, 6 Class A, 14 Class AA, 12 Festival) and OSU Oct. 14, 2023 -- Dublin Coffman; 44 high school bands (5 Class C, 7 Class B, 7 Class A, 12 Class AA, 13 Festival) and OSU These counts are as scheduled not necessarily as performed (e.g., Avon (Ohio) was scheduled for 2023 but didn't attend). I have the complete schedules and announced results for 2015-2023, plus the schedule for 2011. As a reminder: all that is announced are caption winners (by class) and state qualifiers. It would be possible (if not too likely) for a band to not place first in any caption and still win overall. Thanks to ohioguy2 , we have the placements for 2019 and the scores for 2021-2023. I've seen the full recaps for three of the past ten years and have reports of a handful of placements or scores from other years. Corrections and additions would be most welcome! I was in the OSUMB in 2003-2006 and confirm that the Buckeye Invitational was basically on hold from at least the late 80s until the resurgence in 2007. The band used to just pick a random OMEA show to attend each year. My memory isn't spectacular about these events, just because they were pretty quick trips, even sometimes right after a football game. I definitely remember going to the Defiance Band Fest in 2003. I'm also pretty sure we went to Grove City in 2004 or 2005, and then one of the Hilliard high schools the other year. In 2006, I'm not sure we went to a band festival, but we did appear at a Port Clinton Friday night football game on the way to East Lansing.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on May 28, 2024 13:51:03 GMT -6
Does anyone know where one can track down the history of [the Buckeye Invitational]? The OSU band website (and the Internet Archive records thereof) are pretty spotty. ... I attended it in either 1988 or 1989 ... but this event isn't listed in 2004, 2005, or 2006. Was the Buckeye Invitational on hold for two decades? ... Corrections and additions would be most welcome! I was in the OSUMB in 2003-2006 and confirm that the Buckeye Invitational was basically on hold from at least the late 80s until the resurgence in 2007. The band used to just pick a random OMEA show to attend each year. My memory isn't spectacular about these events, just because they were pretty quick trips, even sometimes right after a football game. I definitely remember going to the Defiance Band Fest in 2003. I'm also pretty sure we went to Grove City in 2004 or 2005, and then one of the Hilliard high schools the other year. In 2006, I'm not sure we went to a band festival, but we did appear at a Port Clinton Friday night football game on the way to East Lansing. Thank you! I had no idea that might be the case until doing this research the other day, and I'm very grateful to you for confirming it.
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Post by neop on Jun 4, 2024 20:30:55 GMT -6
Paging those more knowledgeable than me: I just discovered that Continental H.S. is returning to competition this year, competing in (at least) class C at Ottawa-Glandorf, Columbus Grove, Maumee, and SMBF if they qualify. Anyone know the last time they competed? I know they last went to state in 1999, where they received a 2 in class C.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jun 4, 2024 22:24:14 GMT -6
Paging those more knowledgeable than me: I just discovered that Continental H.S. is returning to competition this year, competing in (at least) class B at Ottawa-Glandorf, Columbus Grove, Maumee, and SMBF if they qualify. Anyone know the last time they competed? I know they last went to state in 1999, where they received a 2 in class C. I think I know Continental only as a name from SMBF historical listings. As far as I can tell, they haven't appeared in any competition in the past ten years. That will make four competing marching bands from tiny Putnam County. The others are Columbus Grove, Kalida, and Ottawa-Glandorf. (As I mentioned before, Ottoville was also on the schedule at one show I attended in 2014, but they withdrew.) From 1975 to 1981, there was a drum corps called General Putnam's Men based out of Ottawa. (Here's a note for aiden , who showed an interest in low scores last year: at the 8th Annual Festival of Bugles and Drums on June 10, 1979 in Frankenmuth, Michigan, that corps placed fifth of five corps with a score of 28.65).
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Post by aiden on Jun 5, 2024 0:24:01 GMT -6
Paging those more knowledgeable than me: I just discovered that Continental H.S. is returning to competition this year, competing in (at least) class B at Ottawa-Glandorf, Columbus Grove, Maumee, and SMBF if they qualify. Anyone know the last time they competed? I know they last went to state in 1999, where they received a 2 in class C. I think I know Continental only as a name from SMBF historical listings. As far as I can tell, they haven't appeared in any competition in the past ten years. That will make four competing marching bands from tiny Putnam County. The others are Columbus Grove, Kalida, and Ottawa-Glandorf. (As I mentioned before, Ottoville was also on the schedule at one show I attended in 2014, but they withdrew.) From 1975 to 1981, there was a drum corps called General Putnam's Men based out of Ottawa. (Here's a note for aiden , who showed an interest in low scores last year: at the 8th Annual Festival of Bugles and Drums on June 10, 1979 in Frankenmuth, Michigan, that corps placed fifth of five corps with a score of 28.65). That's quite the low score
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Post by neop on Jun 6, 2024 21:30:22 GMT -6
Paging those more knowledgeable than me: I just discovered that Continental H.S. is returning to competition this year, competing in (at least) class B at Ottawa-Glandorf, Columbus Grove, Maumee, and SMBF if they qualify. Anyone know the last time they competed? I know they last went to state in 1999, where they received a 2 in class C. I think I know Continental only as a name from SMBF historical listings. As far as I can tell, they haven't appeared in any competition in the past ten years. That will make four competing marching bands from tiny Putnam County. The others are Columbus Grove, Kalida, and Ottawa-Glandorf. (As I mentioned before, Ottoville was also on the schedule at one show I attended in 2014, but they withdrew.) From 1975 to 1981, there was a drum corps called General Putnam's Men based out of Ottawa. (Here's a note for aiden , who showed an interest in low scores last year: at the 8th Annual Festival of Bugles and Drums on June 10, 1979 in Frankenmuth, Michigan, that corps placed fifth of five corps with a score of 28.65). According to a post of yours from 2019, Continental appeared at an OMEA show that year, so you might have some notes on them somewhere!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jun 6, 2024 22:58:14 GMT -6
I think I know Continental only as a name from SMBF historical listings. As far as I can tell, they haven't appeared in any competition in the past ten years. ... According to a post of yours from 2019, Continental appeared at an OMEA show that year, so you might have some notes on them somewhere! Well, hmm, I have no memory of that at all. And although I now see that I mentioned Continental in both a 2019 thread and a 2021 thread, I don't think I've ever seen them perform. In 2019, I was listing what I believed to be all the Ohio bands who had appeared in a competition that year, so yes, I may have at least one 2019 show schedule that I didn't save to my master file. Oops. I'll have to do some digging. In 2021, Continental was on the schedule at a show I attended: the Oct. 2 OMEA contest at Ottawa-Glandorf. But they were scheduled to go on first, and I was driving an hour and ten minutes from Toledo, where I'd attended the BOA Prelims earlier that day. As far as I can recall, I arrived as the next band, Woodmore, was performing, and I'm not even sure if Continental actually was there that day. Later ohioguy2 listed the scores for that event, and he didn't mention Contintental. However, I see that he did mention them once before. He noted that Continental performed at the OMEA Columbus Grove show on Oct. 12, 2019, placing 4th in Class C (behind Woodmore, Elgin, and Lincolnview -- and none of them qualified for state finals at that event). Maybe that's how I knew that Continental had performed that year?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jun 12, 2024 18:25:46 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall ... Tentative:Class BWauseon Wauseon is returning to competition this year?
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jun 12, 2024 18:33:17 GMT -6
In fact, I did some enrollment math for all the bands that competed in OMEA last year and I have some findings. I used the class each band below competed in at state OR at the majority of their competitions for these lists. If OMEA were to use the same enrollment numbers as OHSAA, the following would be true. ... That's a very informative post. I believe OMEA allows bands to subtract students who attend vocational education.
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Post by neop on Jun 13, 2024 1:43:17 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall ... Tentative:Class BWauseon Wauseon is returning to competition this year? I don’t know, but the last time they went to this show, they were listed as festival class but ended up competing, so I thought I’d guess
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Post by neop on Jun 19, 2024 22:44:07 GMT -6
I just noticed OMEA has current enrollment numbers for their shows out on the event schedule if you click the "Register for this Event" button. Here is the current enrollment for each OMEA event this year (as of 6/20):
9/7 Troy: 11/16 Licking Heights: 9/16 Cloverleaf: 6/16 Philo: 4/16 9/14 Logan Elm: 16/16 Louisville: 16/16 Kettering Fairmont: 15/16 Hilliard Bradley: 13/16 Cambridge: 11/16 Rock Hill: 5/16 Norwood: 3/16 9/21 Tippecanoe: 16/16 Bloom Carroll: 12/16 Akron: 9/16 Pickerington North: 9/16 Perkins: 8/16 Versailles: 7/16 Hoover: 7/12 (wonder why the attendance limit is lower?) Ottawa-Glandorf: 6/16 Portsmouth West: 5/16 Westerville Central: 5/16 9/28 Grove City: 12/16 Meadowbrook: 10/16 Valley: 10/16 Avon Lake: 7/16 Marion Local: 7/16 Watkins Memorial: 7/12 (wonder why the attendance limit is lower?) Springfield: 5/16 Northwestern: 3/16 Revere: 3/16 10/5 Norton: 15/16 Hamilton: 12/16 Teays Valley: 12/16 Columbus Grove: 10/16 Athens: 9/16 Licking Valley: 10/16 Northwest: 6/16 Warren Local: 4/16 Zanesville: 4/16 10/12 The Buckeye Invitational does not show enrollment details. Piqua: 16/16 Canal Winchester: 12/16 Maysville: 10/16 Wilmington: 10/16 Copley: 9/16 River View: 6/16 Marietta: 5/16 Dawson Bryant: 4/16 10/19 Lancaster: 16/16 New Philadelphia: 16/16 Tecumseh: 16/16 Brunswick: 13/16 Newark: 13/16 Turpin: 13/16 Maumee: 12/16 Nelsonville-York: 10/12 (wonder why the attendance limit is lower?) Thomas Worthington: 8/16 Tri-Valley: 8/16 Ironton: 6/16
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 20, 2024 5:52:02 GMT -6
neop wonders why the attendance limit is lower on some shows than others. hewhowaits wonders why there is an attendance limit mandated by OMEA.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jun 20, 2024 19:23:17 GMT -6
The person here who would know, presumably, is ohioguy2 , but my understanding is that each show director determines the maximum number of bands within some time constraints OMEA sets -- i.e., shows can't start earlier than X or end later than Y without special dispensation -- with 16 as the default number of bands. It's probably meant to make it easier for bands or judges to appear in two different shows on the same day. Also, I have been to contests with more 16 bands, particularly toward the end of the season. (I mean apart from the Buckeye Invitational, which always has more than that.) For example, the New Philadelphia Field Competition, which dates to 1975 and is held on the last weekend of the regular season, had 20 bands perform in 2021. And in that example, the schedule was changed at some point in the season so that the show started earlier than originally planned: it was listed as starting at 5 p.m., but I arrived at 4:45 p.m. to find it had started at 3:30 p.m. Cool find, neop!
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Post by neop on Jul 2, 2024 13:26:53 GMT -6
Looks like the 2024 Buckeye Invitational schedule has been set, but is not yet public. However, I've seen an influx of bands announcing that they'll be attending (or not attending).
- Avon Lake, Dublin Scioto, Grove City, and Licking Valley have recently confirmed they will be in attendance. They join Beavercreek, Hoover, Grove City Christian, Kings, Lakota East, Pickerington North, Rutherford B. Hayes, St. Edward, Walnut Hills, and Wauseon on the list.
- Miamisburg no longer has this event on their calendar.
If anyone has more new information please provide it here!
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jul 7, 2024 13:48:29 GMT -6
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Gas Co., Pauli Electric, Tommy's Auto Supply, Buckeye Village Market, Schumacher Lumber Co., Workman's Auto Parts, Hartville Salvage, Worldco Corporation ("an engineering organization dedicated to render professional service to the community"), Custom Poly Bag Co., Cutty's Sunset, Country Flower Shop, Schillig's Food Market, Genie, Yankee Barn, Hartville TrueValue Hardware, Palmer Drilling Inc., Aid Pest Control Company, Walter Heating Refrigeration & Air Conditioning, UnitedBank, Don Lazar Music Services, Davidson Well Drilling, Joseph R. Berger Inc., Davis Tours Inc. Moulin Products Inc., Bonfert Glass Co., W.J. Egli Co. Inc., Buckeye Packaging Company Inc., Sharer-Stirling Funeral Home Traps Sports Center, Thorne's Super Duper ("area's finest super market"), Miller's Flowerland Inc., Hartville Elevator Co., Blasiman Fire Equipment Company, The Clem Lumber & Distributing Co. and two more where I'm omitting one word: World Wide Travel ___ Auto Club and ___ Sewing Center. There's also a page listing additional "Sponsors" (including the local American Legion post and chapters of the Ruritans and Moose) and "Patron Ads," which is a list of people's names. Joined where? In the program for an Oct. 5, 1985 marching band competition that a friend recently gave to me. It's not worth a whole thread in the historical forum, but I thought I'd discuss it here, as an off-season diversion and a glimpse into the past. Possibly of greatest interest is the second-last page, which reads as follows: It appears that OMEA was using a tick system rather than a build-up system at the time. I started marching the next year and don't remember the judging being described that way, but is that because it changed or because I wasn't paying attention? One thing I do know that changed during my high school years (in 1988 or 1989) was how bands qualified for state finals: instead of scoring above a certain point threshold, bands had to receive a Superior rating from a majority of the judges -- and that remains true to this day, even as the total number of judges has changed. How interesting that there used to be a different requirement for different classes. I need to look back and see if more C bands used to qualify when they number of points needed was lower. (I assume 242 points is a typo for Class B that should read 240 points.) That said, I believe it was the next year that OMEA went from three classes to four classes (adding Class AA), so a comparison might be difficult. (FYI, although it's not mentioned above, the schedule and results reveal there was also something called "Novice" class.) We know from a 2022 post by neop that OMEA continued to judge field commanders through at least 1994. I don't know when they stopped judging rifles, majorettes, and flag corps separately and instead lumped them all together as auxiliary, but I wonder if the fact that there used to be three judges covering those areas explains why OMEA continued to use two auxiliary judges for so many years (through 2019). The paragraphs above are not clear, but I think that even then, the auxiliary and field commander scores were not part of the overall sore. The program opens with notes of welcome from Superintendent James Akenhead and Principal Gordon Rinehart. Here's an excerpt rom the latter: "Whether you win or lose will be of significance to you only if your performance is the best of which you are capable. Best wishes to you as you distinguish yourself as a musician while at the same time providing enjoyment to others." Following the many pages of ads is some information about the hosting organization, which is "honored to have such fine caliber of bands" in attendance. Staff include director Terren L. Frenz, assistant director Tim Angeloni, percussion instructor Ray Koontz, and guard instructor John Zuppe, with additional instruction from Lori Valentine, Todd Casper, and Terry Frenz II. The band has 110 "playing members", i.e., instrumentalists (I count 103 in the picture of the band on the cover page of the program), 22 flags, and 10 rifles, and 1 field commander. So that's 143 members total. A later page gives more detail on the number of instrumentalists: 14 "piccolos" (I wonder if that includes flutes, which are otherwise not listed), 14 clarinets, 15 saxophones, 5 mellophones, 18 trumpets, 10 trombones, 6 baritones, 8 tubas, and 21 on percussion. That's 111 players, but one of the saxophonists is the field commander. The school enrollment was 1,026. Their musical selections for 1985, written to irritate me 39 years later by not including composers' names, were "Third Hurrah" (is that "The Third Hoorah," the Jethro Tull song written by Ian Anderson, which the Kilties played in DCI in 1975?), "Romanian Rhapsody #1" (presumably by George Enescu), "Sometimes When We Touch" (Dan Hill & Barry Mann), and "On the 6th Day" (which I have not been able to identify; I wonder if it was inspired by the book of Genesis or by the invasion of Normandy whose 80th anniversary was commemorated last month). The Superintendent's note is interesting: "Marlington loves Bands. It's really that simple. It shows in our enthusiasm for our Band Program and in the excellence that has been achieved through the support of participating students, boosters, and staff." And yes, if you hadn't been able to figure it out from any of the names (pretty unlikely!) or from the multiple references to carnations in the advertisements (not much likelier!), this event was held at Marlington H.S., which is located just outside the city whose name I omitted above, Alliance, "The Carnation City." Alliance sits on the eastern edge of Portage County in northeast Ohio, about 50 miles southeast of Cleveland and 15 miles northeast of Canton (where I'll be seeing ten world class drum corps perform on August 5th, if the show doesn't have its third rainout in three years). What happened in Marlington since that note was penned? Did they stop loving bands? Were they already living on borrowed time as the Rust Belt collapsed? Now they only sometimes qualify for OMEA finals, and they only even returned to competition in the past ten years, but at the time of this event, they were a powerhouse among Ohio bands. Here's the program's description of the band and its director: Speaking of Whitewater: yesterday, July 6, there were two Ohio drum corps (Bluecoats and Rogues Hollow Regiment) competing at DCI's Whitewater event. As for The Ohio Brass Factory, DCX says it was founded in 1978 and lists some scores from 1979 to 1983, when the corps appeared at DCA events (best finish was 13th of 18 corps in 1981 and 13th of 16 corps in 1983 -- in both cases with scores 30 point below that of the winning corps -- that would be the Hurricanes and Sunrisers, respectively) as well as in a circuit called the International Corps Association, at one of whose events they placed ahead of Minnesota Brass. But DCX's history page for the corps, quoting from the 2002 History of Drum and Bugle Corps book, has fallen out of date in saying that "The Ohio Brass Factory bears the dubious distinction of being the last competitive senior corps from the buckeye state." Cincinnati Tradition, which had been an exhibition corps since the 1980s, began competing in DCA in 2010 and has appeared at the all-age championships every year since there then, placing first in Class A in 2016 and 2017. Columbus Saints, which I believe was originally a drumline and then a SoundSport participant, began competing in all-age events in 2018. And Rogues Hollow Regiment, founded in 2015, has appeared in DCA events for the past three years, which means that since 2021, there have been three competing all-age corps from Ohio, nearly one-third of the total participants. But returning to the 1985 Marlington contest: who were the competing bands there? Twelve are listed, although as will be explained, I don't think those were all the bands in attendance that day. The twelve bands are not in alphabetical order -- presumably they were added as they signed up -- but I'm going to list them that way. Each listing gives the number of instrumentalists, flags, rifles, majorettes, and field commanders, which is what I'm listing below. Bands also had a few lines to list their accomplishments at "past performances". Depending on the band, this might include things like performances at Disneyworld, parade awards, or "Played for President 3 times in 1985". I'm just going to quote their on-field competitive achievements. Brunswick (A) - Robert Neidlinger, dir. - 160+28+10+5+3=206 "MBA Finalist, 30 First Place Tropies, OMEA Superior Rating, ... MBA Grand Nationals Participant." Defiance (B) - Dale R. Schubert, dir. - 127+22+7+8+1=165 "17 consecutive Superior Ratings at OMEA Band Contests." Does that mean concert band or marching band? Everything else mentioned is concert band and parade work. You may recall from a post I made last year that Defiance marched three times in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (in 1976, 1986, and 1994). East Canton (Novice) - Dwight W. Butler, dir. - 38+0+0+5+1=44 No accomplishments listed. East Liverpool (B) - Dave Hiller, dir. - 60+14+8+0+1=83 "Superior Ratings at OMEA Marching & Concert Band Competitions, MBA Regional Finalist 1984, Grand Champion Kent State University MB Invitational 1984, Grand Champion Beaver Local MB Invitational 1984." Green (B) - Steven W. Stroup, dir. - 60+14+0+3+1=77 "First year in marching competitions." This is the Green H.S. near Akron not the one in Franklin Furnace in southern Ohio. (Curiously they give their location in the program as Greensburg.) Louisville (B) - Richard Patrick, dir. - 92+20+0+11+1=124 "First Place Tallmadge Class A, Grand Champion 1984, Second Place Marlington 1984". Midpark (A) - Beth Hargreaves, dir. - 116+26+8+5+2=152 No accomplishments listed. Midpark H.S., which served Middleburg Heights and Brook Park, has since merged with Berea H.S. Newcomerstown (C) - Jerry Stallsmith, dir. - 50+15+0+6+2=73 "East Liverpool, New Philadelphia, Hilliard, Claymont, Riverview, State O.M.E.A. Competition". Nordonia (A) - Scott Curfman, dir. - 76+16+0+5(+8)+2=163 (The 8 are a "pom line".) "For the first time in several years, the Lancers are turning to marching band competition." North Royalton (B) - Bill Park, dir. - 83+18+0+3(+11)+1=115 (The 11 are a "drill team".) "Second Place Class B at Barberton". Norton (B) - James R. Atkins, dir. - 60+18+0+4+1=83 "Superior OMEA Rating 1984-84, MBA Regional Finalist 1983-84, Numerous Caption Awards 1982-83-84." Struthers (B) - Douglas Ray Hazlett, dir. - 45+12+0+3+1=71 "First year in OMEA competition." I wonder why East Canton but not Struthers or Green, both in their first year competing, was performing in the Novice class. The reason that I believe the list of bands is incomplete is that on the last page, which lists the schedule (first performance was 12:15 p.m.; Marlington performed in exhibition at 3:30 p.m.; curiously the A bands went on before the B bands), is also a list of awards to be given out -- and someone has written in the results by hand, including bands not mentioned above. In one case, I suspect an error by the writer, but not all. Here are the noted caption awards, some of which were overall and some by class: General Effect: Nordonia Marching & Maneuvering: Brunswick Music: Nordonia Percussion: Brunswick (A), Louisville (B), Lisbon (C) Flags: Brunswick (A), East Liverpool (B), Lisbon (C) Rifles: Brunswick (A), Defiance (B), Lisbon (C) Auxiliary Line: Brunswick (A), Louisville (B), Newcomerstown (C) Field Commander: North Royalton Here are the class rankings: Class A 1. Brunswick 2. Nordonia 3. Midpark Class B 1. Defiance 2. "Lisbon" 3. East Liverpool Class C 1. Lisbon David Anderson 2. Tuscarawas Central Catholic 3. Newcomerstown Novice 1. East Canton Participation awards went to Green, Kingston, North Royalton, Norton, and Struthers. Brunswick was the Grand Champion. The author has written "state," i.e., qualification for OMEA state finals, next to two band names: Brunswick in Class A and "Lisbon" in Class B. But I think "Lisbon" in Class B is a mistake and that the band listed there should be Louisville. Because otherwise Louisville isn't mentioned as receiving either a class placement or a participation award, as every other band on the original list is. And thus, because state qualification was then based on points not on the number of Superior ratings, that ought to have made it impossible for a band placing second in class to qualify when the band placing first in class (Defiance) did not. So the second qualifying band was probably Lisbon David Anderson, the winner in Class C. (David Anderson Jr./Sr. H.S. is the public high school in Lisbon. This seems to be like Marion L. Steele H.S. in Amherst usually being called Amherst Steele H.S. but sometimes is being referred to just as Amherst H.S.) And Lisbon David Anderson, Tuscarawas Central Catholic, and Kingston would have been late additions. I don't know what class Kingston competed in, nor even where they're from. Wikipedia lists no Kingston High School in Ohio. There is a Kingston H.S. in New York, but that's a seven-hour drive -- and it would have been even longer then when the speed limit was 55 mph.
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Post by ohmbandfan26 on Jul 23, 2024 4:46:21 GMT -6
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Jul 23, 2024 14:55:22 GMT -6
I plan on making my first pilgrimage to the OMEA Buckeye Invitational this fall and I seem to have picked a good year to do it because the very short list of attendees I've found looks great. I'm gonna keep a running list here ... Thanks for sharing that! Avon, Perry, and Ashland, previously identified as possibilities thanks to neop 's research, aren't on the imaged schedule. Avon was on the schedule last year and then dropped out at the last minute for reasons unknown to me. St. Edward, previously identified as attending, also isn't on this list. I imagine that's due to their director of just one year departing to become Amherst Steele's director. Last year was the best work I've seen from St. Ed's; I hope they can keep it up under new leadership. And I wonder if their former director will bring Amherst Steele down to this show in a year or two. Wauseon is listed as a festival band. Ten years ago, after they received a II rating at OMEA state finals, I wrote their director to say that I thought they had deserved a I and that their tuba quartet in particular was a highlight. He kindly replied with some thanks. A year or two later, he moved to become the director at Maumee. I believe Wauseon continued to compete until the pandemic. I wish they would do so again. I can't remember ever seeing two Dublin bands at the same competition before. (Other than their own, in which they are judged for ratings only.) It's fascinating to see Archbishop Carroll on that list and appearing as a festival band. We have seen competition bands (especially those that don't normally appear in OMEA) do that before from time to time. I think such bands go mostly because the kids, and especially their parents, think it's cool to play in OSU's stadium. At some point in the past, I heard that competing bands can't appear more than two years in a row at the Buckeye Invitational, but either that was incorrect or it has changed, because, for example, Franklin Heights is on this schedule despite having performed there in both 2022 and 2023. And clearly the festival bands can do so. This would actually be the fourth straight year for Pickerington North, who competed in 2021 (placing second: behind Lakota East but ahead of (Kettering Fairmont and) Lakota West) and then appeared as a festival band in 2022 and 2023. Looks like you picked a good year to attend, neop ! Sixteen AA bands as compared to eleven last year. The judges are going to need to be on their toes to get the scores right. I won't hazard any predictions at this early date as to who will win, that's for sure. Edited to list the bands currently scheduled, in case that link should become defunct: Per that schedule, the first band plays at 10 a.m., OSU plays at 9:00 p.m., and awards are at 9:30 p.m. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Way back when I was there in the early 2000s, we did compete in an OMEA show in NW Ohio as part of a trip to Cedar Point -- I really can't remember if we ended up in Medina or Mentor. And honestly it may have even been Perry High School as I do remember the nuclear power plant towers. That would be Mentor if you can see the towers from Perry NPP Earlier this year, some friends decided to undertake the project, approximately one day per month, of hiking the entire Buckeye Trail, which circles for about 1,400 miles around the entire state (including two side loops, one each in the northeast and southeast corners of the state). It will take them years to complete. I've joined them on each of the first six installments of this trek. Most recently we hiked through Lake County to the northern terminus of the trail at Lake Erie in Mentor Headlands State Park, and on that day we passed within a few hundred feet of Mentor High School's stadium. While I didn't have a chance to go in and up and see if Perry Nuclear Generating Station is visible, the bleachers are pretty tall and they do face in the right direction. (We never saw the power plant on that day's hike, but we didn't have a view to the east.)
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Post by ohioguy2 on Aug 14, 2024 8:15:41 GMT -6
As is usually the case, the Northmont Band Premiere is the first Ohio marching band festival of the year. This non-competitive event will take place on Saturday, August 31. The schedule has been released.
6:10 - Dixie High School (Exhibition) 6:22 - Dayton Christian High School (Class A) 6:35 - Madison High School (Class A) 6:50 - Eastern Brown High School (Exhibition) 7:02 - Piqua High School (Class AAA)
Intermission
7:35 - Vandalia-Butler High School (Class AAAA) 7:47 - Kettering Fairmont High School (Class AAAAA) 7:59 - Miamisburg High School (Class AAAAA) 8:15 - Centerville High School (Class AAAAA) 8:27 - Northmont High School (Class AAAA)
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Post by neop on Aug 15, 2024 12:29:30 GMT -6
St. Edward, previously identified as attending, also isn't on this list. I imagine that's due to their director of just one year departing to become Amherst Steele's director. Last year was the best work I've seen from St. Ed's; I hope they can keep it up under new leadership. And I wonder if their former director will bring Amherst Steele down to this show in a year or two. Just wanted to say he is continuing to make great improvements at Amherst. Should be a fun year ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I believe the plan is to return to the Buckeye Invitational within a few years. I also imagine BOA may not be too far away based on the direction the program has shifted.
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Post by N.E. Brigand on Aug 17, 2024 11:35:52 GMT -6
Looking ahead, I see that a "Claymont" is going to be attending the Cambridge OMEA show next weekend. I've never heard of them before. Paging N.E. Brigand to see if you know anything about this band. Claymont H.S. is in Uhrichsville ... Speaking of old shows and unfamiliar bands, a friend came across the program from a 1985 show, including penciled-in results, that I hope to transcribe for this thread soon. "Best wishes from all the Merchants at Carnation Mall, including JCPenny, K mart, Carlise's, Quality Farm & Fleet, plus over 40 shops and restaurants... We're blooming for You!" That message is joined by advertisements from [long list of names follows] ... Joined where? In the program for an Oct. 5, 1985 marching band competition that a friend [relatively] recently gave to me. It's not worth a whole thread in the historical forum, but I thought I'd discuss it here, as an off-season diversion and a glimpse into the past. Possibly of greatest interest is the second-last page, which reads as follows: HOW TO VIEW A MARCHING BAND COMPETITION [long quotation follows]... It appears that OMEA was using a tick system rather than a build-up system at the time. ... The program opens with notes of welcome ... The Superintendent's note is interesting: " Marlington loves Bands. It's really that simple. ..." And yes, if you hadn't been able to figure it out ... this event was held at Marlington H.S., which is located just outside the city whose name I omitted above, Alliance, "The Carnation City." Alliance sits on the eastern edge of Portage County in northeast Ohio, about 50 miles southeast of Cleveland and 15 miles northeast of Canton (where I'll be seeing ten world class drum corps perform on August 5th, if the show doesn't have its third rainout in three years). ... But returning to the 1985 Marlington contest: who were the competing bands there? Twelve are listed, although as will be explained, I don't think those were all the bands in attendance that day. ... Brunswick (A) ... Defiance (B) ... East Canton (Novice) ... East Liverpool (B) ... Green (B) ... Louisville (B) ... Midpark (A) ... Newcomerstown (C) ... Nordonia (A) ... North Royalton (B) ... Norton (B) ... Struthers (B) ... The reason that I believe the list of bands is incomplete is that ... someone has written in the results by hand, including bands not mentioned above ... Lisbon David Anderson ... Tuscarawas Central Catholic ... Kingston In light of this post, inspired by a 1985 band competition in Marlington and including a reference to the then-upcoming DCI competition at the Pro Football Hall of Fame stadium in Canton, I was amused to see that Phantom Regiment's drum major, Keri McCourt, has lately posted a "head cam" video of a Phantom rehearsal that took place at Marlington!
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