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Post by kyle on May 5, 2024 1:51:22 GMT -6
I'll go first, American Fork has won the Music Caption at the UT regional in finals every year since the regional first opened. Ayala CA (2018), and Green Canyon UT (2021) are the only other bands to have won this award when both bands tied for the caption
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Post by jakeymam12 on May 5, 2024 21:42:08 GMT -6
I'll go first, American Fork has won the Music Caption at the UT regional in finals every year since the regional first opened. Ayala CA is the only other band to have won this award when in 2018, both bands tied for the caption If I recall correctly, didn’t Green Canyon also tie with American Fork for the music caption in 2021?
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Post by marimba11 on May 5, 2024 22:02:18 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina.
James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1
And only 2 for finals:
Wando: 5 Irmo: 3
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Post by kyle on May 6, 2024 0:18:14 GMT -6
I'll go first, American Fork has won the Music Caption at the UT regional in finals every year since the regional first opened. Ayala CA is the only other band to have won this award when in 2018, both bands tied for the caption If I recall correctly, didn’t Green Canyon also tie with American Fork for the music caption in 2021? You're right! I didn't see them in the results sneaking a caption from down at 4th, nice catch!
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Post by kyle on May 6, 2024 0:21:36 GMT -6
I'll go first, American Fork has won the Music Caption at the UT regional in finals every year since the regional first opened. Ayala CA is the only other band to have won this award when in 2018, both bands tied for the caption If I recall correctly, didn’t Green Canyon also tie with American Fork for the music caption in 2021? They also took the colorguard caption at the Rocky Mountain Invitational that year at BYU
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Post by kyle on May 6, 2024 0:22:30 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina. James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1 And only 2 for finals: Wando: 5 Irmo: 3 Like, grand nats semis? or any semis?
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Post by yayband914 on May 6, 2024 0:29:18 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina. James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1 And only 2 for finals: Wando: 5 Irmo: 3 Like, grand nats semis? or any semis? Only Grand Nationals has a semifinals in the BOA circuit.
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Post by kyle on May 6, 2024 0:30:31 GMT -6
Like, grand nats semis? or any semis? Only Grand Nationals has a semifinals in the BOA circuit. Oh yeah, I'm dumb, thanks!
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Post by oldbandguy on May 6, 2024 9:03:19 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina. James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1 And only 2 for finals: Wando: 5 Irmo: 3 (Sigh) Good ole JFB…always the bridesmaid…
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Post by bubbawethead on May 6, 2024 9:57:43 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina. James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1 And only 2 for finals: Wando: 5 Irmo: 3 Rather impressive that 25 total bands (including multiple years for __ bands) have made semis, considering 52 bands from SC have attended GNs. Also worth noting that Irmo's semis number would be higher if there was semifinals prior to '95, would add at least 5 more semis appearances.
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Post by marimba11 on May 6, 2024 10:16:47 GMT -6
There are only 6 bands to have ever advanced to semifinals from South Carolina. James F. Byrnes: 7 Wando: 6 Fort Mill: 6 Irmo: 3 Nation Ford: 2 Boiling Springs: 1 And only 2 for finals: Wando: 5 Irmo: 3 Rather impressive that 25 total bands (including multiple years for __ bands) have made semis, considering 52 bands from SC have attended GNs. Also worth noting that Irmo's semis number would be higher if there was semifinals prior to '95, would add at least 5 more semis appearances. If semis round had existed the entire time it would be = Irmo: +4 Fort Mill: +1 Putting both JFB, Fort Mill, and Irmo all at 7.
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Post by dbalash on May 8, 2024 11:55:42 GMT -6
Few for now:
-Carmel has the lowest score on record: -4.00 at the 1993 Indianapolis regional. Probably due to a did not show.
-2001 Grand National Prelims (hell, the whole show) was wild. -Friday prelims, 26 bands broke 80. Thursday, 8. -The "top 11" on Thursday concluded with Northrop, who scored a 78.05. Westerville North qualified as an additional band out of Thursday prelims due to tying Northrop. 27 bands Friday scored higher than Westerville North/Northrop. -Friday's 11th place band, Owasso, scored an 89.55. -Outside of the automatic qualifiers for A (Chesaning Union) and AA (Bellevue West), no additional bands qualified from Thursday, making semifinals 20 bands from Friday, and 14 from Thursday. -Collinsville, OK was the additional A band from Friday, finishing in 20th place with an 83.55. They would have been 6th in Prelims 1, just behind Richland. --10 AA bands qualified for semifinals. Keep in mind, this was the days of the 3 class system, but this was still a lot.
-Clear break in semifinals for top 6/bottom 6. Tarpon Springs was 6th with a 92.10, Center Grove was 7th with an 89.65.
-7th-13th was decided by 1.2, a precursor of things to come in finals. Center Grove 7th with an 89.65, Lake Park 8th with an 89.65 (.2 difference in GE), Kiski Area 9th with an 89.15, Avon 10th with an 89.10, Broken Arrow 11th with an 88.75, Irmo 12th with an 88.50, Alan C. Pope 13th with an 88.40. - -In finals, the top 5 was separated by .95. Lawrence Central went down in infamy as the only band to win Nationals without winning a caption, but they did win Visual Ensemble and Music GE 2 to squeak out the win. -L.D. Bell won Music, PCEP won Visual, Carmel won GE. -Subcaptions were won by the following: -Music Individual: L.D. Bell -Music Ensemble: Marian Catholic -Visual Individual: Marian Catholic -Visual Ensemble: Lawrence Central -Music GE 1: L.D. Bell -Music GE 2: Lawrence Central -Visual GE: PCEP
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 10, 2024 18:55:03 GMT -6
Few for now: -Carmel has the lowest score on record: -4.00 at the 1993 Indianapolis regional. Probably due to a did not show. -2001 Grand National Prelims (hell, the whole show) was wild. -Friday prelims, 26 bands broke 80. Thursday, 8. -The "top 11" on Thursday concluded with Northrop, who scored a 78.05. Westerville North qualified as an additional band out of Thursday prelims due to tying Northrop. 27 bands Friday scored higher than Westerville North/Northrop. -Friday's 11th place band, Owasso, scored an 89.55. -Outside of the automatic qualifiers for A (Chesaning Union) and AA (Bellevue West), no additional bands qualified from Thursday, making semifinals 20 bands from Friday, and 14 from Thursday. -Collinsville, OK was the additional A band from Friday, finishing in 20th place with an 83.55. They would have been 6th in Prelims 1, just behind Richland. --10 AA bands qualified for semifinals. Keep in mind, this was the days of the 3 class system, but this was still a lot.
-Clear break in semifinals for top 6/bottom 6. Tarpon Springs was 6th with a 92.10, Center Grove was 7th with an 89.65.
-7th-13th was decided by 1.2, a precursor of things to come in finals. Center Grove 7th with an 89.65, Lake Park 8th with an 89.65 (.2 difference in GE), Kiski Area 9th with an 89.15, Avon 10th with an 89.10, Broken Arrow 11th with an 88.75, Irmo 12th with an 88.50, Alan C. Pope 13th with an 88.40. - -In finals, the top 5 was separated by .95. Lawrence Central went down in infamy as the only band to win Nationals without winning a caption, but they did win Visual Ensemble and Music GE 2 to squeak out the win. -L.D. Bell won Music, PCEP won Visual, Carmel won GE. -Subcaptions were won by the following: -Music Individual: L.D. Bell -Music Ensemble: Marian Catholic -Visual Individual: Marian Catholic -Visual Ensemble: Lawrence Central -Music GE 1: L.D. Bell -Music GE 2: Lawrence Central -Visual GE: PCEP
I had forgotten that PCEP and Carmel won visual and GE without being 1st from any of the judges in the caption they won.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 11, 2024 23:30:44 GMT -6
I've said this before, but this is a fun fact. On September 26, 2015, St. Joseph's Secondary School from Kuching, Malaysia did a one and done American Tour and one competition was at USBands Yamaha Cup in MetLife Stadium where the 73-member band was able to win with the highest overall score in Class A and winning every caption in Group III-A. They have been able to produce great results in their own circuit in (MSSMBC=Malaysia Secondary School Marching Band Competition), and around the world like winning gold in 2019 at Rasteder Musiktage Competiton out in Germany, But I do believe they did stop their marching program but still have a competitive concert program
Group III - A: 1. 90.100 - Saint Joseph's Secondary School, MY (82.888 - Vernon Township, NJ Group IV - A) second highest Class A score 2. 79.538 - East Brunswick, NJ 3. 78.625 - Kittatinny Regional, NJ 4. 78.038 - Ridge, NJ 5. 76.963 - Northern Valley Regional @ Demarest, NJ 6. 76.888 - Walt Whitman, NY 7. 76.588 - Mahwah, NJ 8. 75.038 - Long Branch, NJ 9. 70.825 - Hicksville, NY
The guy who posted the video of the Yamaha Cup performance probably privated the video since last year so here's their Kennesaw Mountain performance
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Post by dbbandalum on May 13, 2024 20:14:18 GMT -6
I've said this before, but this is a fun fact. On September 26, 2015, St. Joseph's Secondary School from Kuching, Malaysia did a one and done American Tour and one competition was at USBands Yamaha Cup in MetLife Stadium where the 73-member band was able to win with the highest overall score in Class A and winning every caption in Group III-A. They have been able to produce great results in their own circuit in (MSSMBC=Malaysia Secondary School Marching Band Competition), and around the world like winning gold in 2019 at Rasteder Musiktage Competiton out in Germany, But I do believe they did stop their marching program but still have a competitive concert program Group III - A: 1. 90.100 - Saint Joseph's Secondary School, MY (82.888 - Vernon Township, NJ Group IV - A) second highest Class A score 2. 79.538 - East Brunswick, NJ 3. 78.625 - Kittatinny Regional, NJ 4. 78.038 - Ridge, NJ 5. 76.963 - Northern Valley Regional @ Demarest, NJ 6. 76.888 - Walt Whitman, NY 7. 76.588 - Mahwah, NJ 8. 75.038 - Long Branch, NJ 9. 70.825 - Hicksville, NY The guy who posted the video of the Yamaha Cup performance probably privated the video since last year so here's their Kennesaw Mountain performance Have any international bands participated in BOA before? Including Canada of course.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 13, 2024 20:25:06 GMT -6
I've said this before, but this is a fun fact. On September 26, 2015, St. Joseph's Secondary School from Kuching, Malaysia.... Group III - A: 1. 90.100 - Saint Joseph's Secondary School, MY (82.888 - Vernon Township, NJ Group IV - A) second highest Class A score 2. 79.538 - East Brunswick, NJ 3. 78.625 - Kittatinny Regional, NJ 4. 78.038 - Ridge, NJ 5. 76.963 - Northern Valley Regional @ Demarest, NJ 6. 76.888 - Walt Whitman, NY 7. 76.588 - Mahwah, NJ 8. 75.038 - Long Branch, NJ 9. 70.825 - Hicksville, NY Have any international bands participated in BOA before? Including Canada of course. The answer is no, but I also have no record before 1985.
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 14, 2024 3:22:00 GMT -6
Magrath HS from Aberta, Canada competed at the 1985 Moscow, ID regional.
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Post by kyle on May 14, 2024 5:27:07 GMT -6
Magrath HS from Aberta, Canada competed at the 1985 Moscow, ID regional. hey, maybe they'll return with the Moscow regional lol
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 14, 2024 6:35:38 GMT -6
Have any international bands participated in BOA before? Including Canada of course. The answer is no, but I also have no record before 1985. Idk why but I read it as excluding and not including, sorry, but HistoryBuff is correct
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 20, 2024 12:07:00 GMT -6
American Fork's highest finish ever at Grand Nationals was 13th place in 2022. That was not the year they made their first and only appearance in Grand National finals thus far. Their placement the year they were in GN Finals was 14th. Well, that was simply because BOA opted to select a top 14 for finals that year, 1995.
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Post by crowncrawler on May 20, 2024 12:39:31 GMT -6
American Fork's highest finish ever at Grand Nationals was 13th place in 2022. That was not the year they made their first and only appearance in Grand National finals thus far. Their placement the year they were in GN Finals was 14th. Well, that was simply because BOA opted to select a top 14 for finals that year, 1995. I'll never get over 2022
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Post by marimba11 on May 20, 2024 13:50:57 GMT -6
American Fork's highest finish ever at Grand Nationals was 13th place in 2022. That was not the year they made their first and only appearance in Grand National finals thus far. Their placement the year they were in GN Finals was 14th. Well, that was simply because BOA opted to select a top 14 for finals that year, 1995. I'll never get over 2022 Me either. The 12th place band should have been 13th, but I don’t wanna fight anyone on it rn 😂
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Post by kyle on May 20, 2024 23:12:44 GMT -6
American Fork's highest finish ever at Grand Nationals was 13th place in 2022. That was not the year they made their first and only appearance in Grand National finals thus far. Their placement the year they were in GN Finals was 14th. Well, that was simply because BOA opted to select a top 14 for finals that year, 1995. That was also the first year any UT band went to GN, and since then I believe that only 2 Utah bands have ever gone, American Fork and Westlake, who will both be attending this year, marking the first time we have had multiple UT bands in a GN (I think)
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 21, 2024 3:24:09 GMT -6
American Fork's highest finish ever at Grand Nationals was 13th place in 2022. That was not the year they made their first and only appearance in Grand National finals thus far. Their placement the year they were in GN Finals was 14th. Well, that was simply because BOA opted to select a top 14 for finals that year, 1995. That was also the first year any UT band went to GN, and since then I believe that only 2 Utah bands have ever gone, American Fork and Westlake, who will both be attending this year, marking the first time we have had multiple UT bands in a GN (I think) The first Utah band to attend Grand Nationals was actually Skyview HS in 1984. They did not make finals but did win the award for best use of flags. In 1979, Skyview became the first Utah band to win a regional title (held in Moscow, ID).
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Post by kyle on May 21, 2024 13:35:08 GMT -6
That was also the first year any UT band went to GN, and since then I believe that only 2 Utah bands have ever gone, American Fork and Westlake, who will both be attending this year, marking the first time we have had multiple UT bands in a GN (I think) The first Utah band to attend Grand Nationals was actually Skyview HS in 1984. They did not make finals but did win the award for best use of flags. In 1979, Skyview became the first Utah band to win a regional title (held in Moscow, ID). haha, you'll have to forgive me, I couldn't find the results on boa for before 1985 and didn't know where else to find them, unless those years are here under results, in which case, blame my laziness
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 21, 2024 14:24:12 GMT -6
The first Utah band to attend Grand Nationals was actually Skyview HS in 1984. They did not make finals but did win the award for best use of flags. In 1979, Skyview became the first Utah band to win a regional title (held in Moscow, ID). haha, you'll have to forgive me, I couldn't find the results on boa for before 1985 and didn't know where else to find them, unless those years are here under results, in which case, blame my laziness hornrank.proboards.com/post/208/thread for the 1979 Moscow Regional Results hornrank.proboards.com/post/390/thread for the 1984 Grand National Results and thank you boahistorybuff and thebigtall for all your work. They were great to read and study in 2020.
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 21, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -6
I had a lot of help from thebigtall who did a ton of research to get the pre 1985 results. We still have several competitions where the results seem to have been lost to history. There was not a lot of good archiving during the MBA years. Although the title on the video says 1985 instead of 1984, there is a video online of 1984 Skyview HS from Grand Nationals. I believe Skyview was also a finalist at the 1980 Summer Nationals. They were the Utah power back then.
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Post by jakeymam12 on May 21, 2024 20:08:44 GMT -6
I had a lot of help from thebigtall who did a ton of research to get the pre 1985 results. We still have several competitions where the results seem to have been lost to history. There was not a lot of good archiving during the MBA years. Although the title on the video says 1985 instead of 1984, there is a video online of 1984 Skyview HS from Grand Nationals. I believe Skyview was also a finalist at the 1980 Summer Nationals. They were the Utah power back then. Although American Fork passed them up pretty quickly, Skyview continued to be a Utah powerhouse until 2017, when the then director Randall Beach switched jobs to newly built Green Canyon High School. So basically I like to think of Green Canyon as a continuation/evolution of the once renowned Skyview.
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 24, 2024 15:28:13 GMT -6
There are two previous Grand National Champions who have only attended one Grand National Championship.
Sylva-Webster NC (1979) and Vandegrift TX (2019)
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Post by boahistorybuff on May 27, 2024 15:35:16 GMT -6
On the flip side, Marian Catholic and Centerville are prior Grand National Champions with the most appearances at Grand Nationals. Both of these bands have attended every Grand Nationals since 1984.
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