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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 3, 2024 8:57:26 GMT -6
In 1995, an eagle first appeared atop the Grand National Champion traveling trophy. This gave birth to the phrase, taking home the eagle.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 3, 2024 9:03:46 GMT -6
In 1995, an eagle first appeared atop the Grand National Champion traveling trophy. This gave birth to the phrase, taking home the eagle. When was the name Kevin bestowed upon the Eagle?
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 3, 2024 9:20:22 GMT -6
In 1995, an eagle first appeared atop the Grand National Champion traveling trophy. This gave birth to the phrase, taking home the eagle. When was the name Kevin bestowed upon the Eagle? That I do not know.
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Post by es203 on Jun 3, 2024 9:53:02 GMT -6
When was the name Kevin bestowed upon the Eagle? That I do not know. 2009. Up was released. There's a bird called Kevin in the movie. (I actually have no clue)
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 21, 2024 5:56:34 GMT -6
Longest gap between a bands last GN Finals appearance and first BOA regional title.
1. Jenison MI - 28 Years 2. Richland TX - 16 Years 3. American Fork UT - 13 Years 4. North Hardin KY - 11 Years 5. Cedar Ridge TX - 9 Years
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 21, 2024 7:00:09 GMT -6
Longest gap between first BOA Regional Title and first appearance in GN Finals.
1. Union OK - 6 Years 2. Klein TX - 5 Years 3. Center Grove IN - 3 Years 3. Leander TX - 3 Years 3. Harrison GA - 3 Years 3. Dobyns-Bennett TN - 3 Years 3. O'Fallon Twp IL - 3 Years 3. Vandegrift TX - 3 Years
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 21, 2024 7:27:32 GMT -6
Longest gap between first BOA Regional Title and first appearance in GN Finals. 1. Union OK - 6 Years 2. Klein TX - 5 Years 3. Center Grove IN - 3 Years 3. Leander TX - 3 Years 3. Harrison GA - 3 Years 3. Dobyns-Bennett TN - 3 Years 3. O'Fallon Twp IL - 3 Years 3. Vandegrift TX - 3 Years Ininite time between first Regional title and first GN Finals appearance - every band that has won a Regional and never appeared in GN Finals.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 21, 2024 8:02:12 GMT -6
Longest gap between first BOA Regional Title and first appearance in GN Finals. 1. Union OK - 6 Years 2. Klein TX - 5 Years 3. Center Grove IN - 3 Years 3. Leander TX - 3 Years 3. Harrison GA - 3 Years 3. Dobyns-Bennett TN - 3 Years 3. O'Fallon Twp IL - 3 Years 3. Vandegrift TX - 3 Years Ininite time between first Regional title and first GN Finals appearance - every band that has won a Regional and never appeared in GN Finals. That is a lot of bands. Here is my stab at it: Clovis West CA Fred C Beyer CA Mission Viejo CA Upland CA Saratoga CA Vista Murietta CA Rampart CO Trumbull CT Joe E Newsome FL Carleton J Kell GA Walton GA Lake Central IN Goshen IN Evansville North IN Harrison County KY Louisville Male KY Paul Laurence Dunbar KY Westminster MD King Phillip Regional MA Dartmouth MA Rosemount MN Grenada MS South Jones MS Camdenton MO Sierra Vista NV Clovis NM West Johnston NC Central Crossing OH Lakota West OH Coweta OK West Salem OR Northwestern Lehigh PA North Penn PA James F Byrnes SC Fort Mill SC Nation Ford SC Catawba Ridge SC Lincoln SD Father Ryan TN Franklin TN Bartlett TN Lake Highlands TX Coronado TX Harlingen TX Dripping Springs TX Timber Creek TX John B Alexander TX Moe & Gene Johnson TX Wakeland TX Louis D Brandeis TX Cy-Fair TX Rouse TX Roma TX Richland TX Ray Braswell TX Sky View UT Mountain Crest UT James Madison VA University WA OMG - let me know if I missed one.
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Post by TWHSPercDad on Jun 21, 2024 11:03:00 GMT -6
Wow @boahisorybuff!
That was a GREAT stab! One adjustment though —
Richland HS (Bill Watson, Director) was a Finalist (7th place) in 2005.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 21, 2024 12:45:49 GMT -6
Wow @boahisorybuff! That was a GREAT stab! One adjustment though — Richland HS (Bill Watson, Director) was a Finalist (7th place) in 2005. Yes, for that I went off their last GN Finals appearance. For Richland, that was 2007 (they appeared in both 2005 and 2007).
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Post by es203 on Jun 21, 2024 12:48:37 GMT -6
Ininite time between first Regional title and first GN Finals appearance - every band that has won a Regional and never appeared in GN Finals. That is a lot of bands. Here is my stab at it: Clovis West CA Fred C Beyer CA Mission Viejo CA Upland CA Saratoga CA Vista Murietta CA Rampart CO Trumbull CT Joe E Newsome FL Carleton J Kell GA Walton GA Lake Central IN Goshen IN Evansville North IN Harrison County KY Louisville Male KY Paul Laurence Dunbar KY Westminster MD King Phillip Regional MA Dartmouth MA Rosemount MN Grenada MS South Jones MS Camdenton MO Sierra Vista NV Clovis NM West Johnston NC Central Crossing OH Lakota West OH Coweta OK West Salem OR Northwestern Lehigh PA North Penn PA James F Byrnes SC Fort Mill SC Nation Ford SC Catawba Ridge SC Lincoln SD Father Ryan TN Franklin TN Bartlett TN Lake Highlands TX Harlingen TX Dripping Springs TX Timber Creek TX John B Alexander TX Moe & Gene Johnson TX Wakeland TX Louis D Brandeis TX Cy-Fair TX Rouse TX Roma TX Richland TX Ray Braswell TX Sky View UT Mountain Crest UT James Madison VA University WA OMG - let me know if I missed one. A couple bands on this list just need to show up to GN and they will likely make finals. Rouse and Wakeland particularly
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 21, 2024 12:50:21 GMT -6
I missed Coronado TX. Just added.
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Post by indyguy8362 on Jun 23, 2024 14:36:30 GMT -6
a list of GN finalist with no regional championship win would be interesting
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Post by dbbandalum on Jun 23, 2024 17:41:00 GMT -6
a list of GN finalist with no regional championship win would be interesting That would probably be a lot of TX bands lol
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 23, 2024 19:00:11 GMT -6
a list of GN finalist with no regional championship win would be interesting Arkansas: ( 1) 1: Bentonville: (23 - 9th) California: ( 1) 3: Live Oak (76 - 1st, 77 - 2nd, 78 - 1st) Colorado: ( 1) 1: Pomona (96 - 5th) Florida: ( 3) 1: Gainesville (80 - 10th) 1: Miami Southridge (80 - 12th) 1: Pinellas Park (80 - 7th) Illinois: ( 6) 3: Conant (76, 77 - 4th, 78 - 3rd) 3: Crystal Lake (76, 78 - 7th, 79 - 6th) 3: Monticello (77 - 9th, 78 - 6th, 79 - 9th ) 2: Dundee (76 - 2nd, 77 - 3rd) 1: Bishop McNamara (77 - 12th) 1: Rock Falls (76) Indiana: ( 9) 7: Western (84 - 5th, 85 - 10th, 86 - 12th, 87 - 14th, 88 - 12th, 89 - 14th, 90 - 13th) 6: Ben Davis (81 - 9th, 82 - 3rd, 83 - 2nd, 84 - 4th, 04 - 9th, 08 - 10th) 2: Warren Central (81 - 7th, 82 - 9th) 2: Fishers (22 - 10th, 23 - 12th) 1: Haworth (78 - 2nd) 1: Lawrence Township (14 - 12th) 1: Maconaquah (81 - 8th) 1: Paoli Jr./Sr. (83 - 12th) 1: Tell City Jr./Sr. (80 - 5th) Iowa: ( 2) 3: Oskaloosa (76, 77 - 11th, 78 - 9th) 2: Webster City (77 - 10th, 78 - 10th) Kentucky: ( 1) 1: Murray (77 - 1st) Louisiana: ( 1) 1: Lafayette (08 - 12th, 11 - 11th) Maryland: ( 1) 1: Southern Garrett (80 - 11th) Michigan: ( 3) 3: Bridgeport (76 - 3rd, 77 - 6th, 78 - 4th) 1: Chesaning Union (76) 1: Sturgis (76) Mississippi: ( 2) 3: Kosciusko (76, 77 - 5th, 79 -10th) 1: Jackson Academy (93 - 8th) North Carolina: ( 4) 3: Central Cabarrus (87 - 7th, 88 - 11th, 91 - 12th) 2: Tuscola (82 - 11th, 83 - 9th) 1: Madison-Mayodan (76) 1: Sylva-Webster (79 - 1st) New York ( 3) 4: Liverpool (84 - 10th, 87 - 5th, 88 - 4th, 89 - 12th) 2: Cicero-North Syracuse (87 - 2nd, 88 - 3rd) 2: Webster (93 - 12th, 97 - 10th) Ohio: ( 4) 6: New Philadelphia (83 - 10th, 84 - 11th, 85 - 11th(tie), 87 - 12th, 88 - 13th, 89 - 13th) 2: Marietta: (87 - 11th, 92 - 9th) 1: Bellbrook (00 - 11th) 1: Hilliard (79 - 11th) 1: Marlington (86 - 11th) Oklahoma: ( 1) 1: Jenks (18 - 9th) Pennsylvania: ( 3) 3: Hanover (79 - 5th, 80 - 4th, 81 - 10th) 1: McDowell (77 - 7th) 1: McGuffey (78 - 11th) Texas: ( 6) 5: Round Rock (13 - 4th, 15 - 7th, 17 - 12th, 19 - 9th, 23 - 8th) 2: Keller (15 - 11th, 23 - 10th) 2: Prosper (18 - 11th, 22 - 11th) 1: Pearland (23 - 7th) 1: Robert E. Hendrickson (22 - 9th) 1: Southlake Carroll (22 - 7th) Virginia: ( 2) 1: John S Battle (81 - 11th) 1: Lake Braddock (85 -11th(tie)) Wisconsin: ( 1) 2: Oregon (78 - 12th, 79 - 12th) Murray, KY, Live Oak, CA, and Sylva-Webster, NC are the only three bands to win a Grand National title and has never won a Regional.
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Post by crowncrawler on Jun 23, 2024 20:32:58 GMT -6
2: Richland (05, 07) 1: Cedar Ridge (13) Richland got their regional win at Las Cruces last year; Cedar Ridge got theirs in Katy back in '22
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 24, 2024 3:34:40 GMT -6
Nice! In all fairness to Live Oak, Murray and Sylva-Webster, they were at Grand Nationals when it was in the summer and the regional championships did not start until 1978.
Aside from the two runner up bands from the 70s who did not win a regional title (Dundee IL and Haworth IN) the only two runner up bands at the fall Grand Nationals who never won a regional title were Ben Davis IN and Cicero-North Syracuse NY.
Since 1980, every Grand National Champion band has won at least one regional title prior to their GN win.
Aside from Live Oak, Murray and Sylva-Webster, the Grand National Champion band with the fewest regional titles is Cheaterton IN with 4.
Aside from the Grand Nationals held in the 70s, the band who had the highest finish at Grand Nationals in their first ever BOA competition (never attended a regional prior to Grand Nationals) was 1987 Cicero-North Syracuse who placed second.
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Post by jakeymam12 on Jun 24, 2024 22:06:58 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances?
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 25, 2024 3:21:47 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? To my knowledge no, that has never happened. That scenario would most likely happen at one of the Texas regionals. I believe they have all had at least one or two Class AAA bands in finals.
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Post by dbalash on Jun 25, 2024 4:31:12 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? It’s happened twice at Nationals, but that was under the 3 class system (2002 and 2004). I think in 2004, Bellbrook and Jackson Academy performed prior to finals. As far as I can tell, it has never happened under the 4 class system.
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Post by dbalash on Jun 25, 2024 7:19:18 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? It’s happened twice at Nationals, but that was under the 3 class system (2002 and 2004). I think in 2004, Bellbrook and Jackson Academy performed prior to finals. As far as I can tell, it has never happened under the 4 class system. 2004 had the last 2 bands who made finals from Class A as exhibition: Jackson Academy (1993, as the A representative in 2004), and Bellbrook (2000, as the AA representative in 2004).
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Post by ohioguy2 on Jun 25, 2024 7:29:33 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? To my knowledge no, that has never happened. That scenario would most likely happen at one of the Texas regionals. I believe they have all had at least one or two Class AAA bands in finals. 2019 Grand Nationals had 15 of the top 16 bands at semifinals in Class AAAA. Leander was the only band that kept this scenario from occurring.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 25, 2024 9:24:59 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? It’s happened twice at Nationals, but that was under the 3 class system (2002 and 2004). I think in 2004, Bellbrook and Jackson Academy performed prior to finals. As far as I can tell, it has never happened under the 4 class system. I was thinking at the regional level. So yes 2002 and 2004 at Grand Nationals. Under the four class system, no it has not happened at Grand Nationals. There have however been a few years with just one Class AAA band in Finals.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 25, 2024 18:51:01 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? It has happened many times before the creation of Class 4A in 2009 in mostly Texas/Western Regional since they have large school. After 2009 (New Class 4A). It has never happened Here are all of the Regionals where all Finalist were the same class and the most had 2 Class in exhibition. Fun Fact: Conroe Regional had the longest streak where one class has made finals for 3 years going from 2014-2016 all in Class 4A. 2018 Houston, TX RegionalClass 3A Exhibition: Stephen F. Austin, TX (11th place) Class 2A Exhibition: Bridgeland, TX (23rd place) 2016 Conroe, TX Regional Class 3A Exhibition: Friendswood, TX (19th place) 2015 Long Beach, CA RegionalClass 3A Exhibition: Arroyo, CA (12th place) Class 2A Exhibition: Covina, CA (15th place) 2015 Conroe, TX RegionalClass 3A Exhibition: Tompkins, TX (20th place) Class 2A Exhibition: Calallen, TX (24th place) 2014 Conroe, TX RegionalClass 3A Exhibition: Dawson, TX (11th place) Class 2A Exhibition: Southwest, TX (18th place)
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 26, 2024 5:11:24 GMT -6
Thanks for doing that research. So many regionals these days, especially in Texas. Has there ever been a regional where all 4 classes were represented and finals only consisted of bands from one class?
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Post by LeanderMomma on Jun 26, 2024 6:57:58 GMT -6
To my knowledge no, that has never happened. That scenario would most likely happen at one of the Texas regionals. I believe they have all had at least one or two Class AAA bands in finals. 2019 Grand Nationals had 15 of the top 16 bands at semifinals in Class AAAA. Leander was the only band that kept this scenario from occurring. 💙💙💙
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 26, 2024 7:21:07 GMT -6
Thanks for doing that research. So many regionals these days, especially in Texas. Has there ever been a regional where all 4 classes were represented and finals only consisted of bands from one class? statechamp1239 answered led us astray about that above. The 2021 Katy Regional is the only Regional in history after the new class were introduced where every finalist was in Class 4A, and all three classes were represented in exhibition so here's the schedule for example: 2:24 p.m. – Friendswood H.S., TX (Class 3A Exhibition)2:36 p.m. – Dawson H.S., TX 2:48 p.m. – Oak Ridge H.S., TX 3:00 p.m. – Brazoswood H.S., TX 3:12 p.m. – Cy-Fair H.S., TX 3:24 p.m. – Odem H.S., TX (Class 1A Exhibition)3:36 p.m. – Cypress Falls H.S., TX 3:48 p.m. – Lake Travis, H.S., TX 4:00 p.m. – Seven Lakes H.S., TX 4:12 p.m. – Little Cypress-Mauriceville H.S., TX (Class 2A Exhibition)4:24 p.m. – James E. Taylor H.S., TX 4:36 p.m. – Pearland H.S., TX 4:48 p.m. – Ronald Regan H.S., TX 5:00 p.m. – EXHIBITION: University of HoustonThe afternoon times should have tipped us off.
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Post by boahistorybuff on Jun 26, 2024 10:48:34 GMT -6
And so he did, thanks. I have been off my game the last couple days. Just had another birthday so I will blame it on my advanced age.
"Back in my day", there were not so many regionals to keep track of either. BOA had five regionals the fall of my senior year. Now we are close to having five in a single weekend.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 26, 2024 16:01:37 GMT -6
And so he did, thanks. I have been off my game the last couple days. Just had another birthday so I will blame it on my advanced age. "Back in my day", there were not so many regionals to keep track of either. BOA had five regionals the fall of my senior year. Now we are close to having five in a single weekend. Happy Belated Birthday! ngl I hate trying to watch 5 Regional, it tired me some much I usually fall asleep during finals.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 26, 2024 16:54:29 GMT -6
I was wondering, has there ever been a regional or event where the finalists were all from one class? Like let's say only AAAA bands got into finals. If it has happened, what were the logistics for exhibition performances? The 2021 Katy Regional is the only Regional in history after the new class were introduced where every finalist was in Class 4A, and all other three classes were represented in exhibition so here's the schedule for example: 2:24 p.m. – Friendswood H.S., TX.......... 5:00 p.m. – EXHIBITION: University of Houston Ok I made a mistake. I forgot 2021 was the start of 12 finalist spot and not 10 plus, I confused their Prelims schedule and not finals by accident. So, Friendswood in 11th and SFA in 12th breaks it since they're in 3A. In fact, there has never been a regional where one class were represented in finals and all other three classes were represented in exhibition. 7:45 p.m. – Class A Exhibition: Odem H.S., TX8:00 p.m. – Cy-Fair H.S., TX 8:15 p.m. – Stephen F. Austin H.S., TX (AAA) 8:30 p.m. – Oak Ridge H.S., TX 8:45 p.m. – Dawson H.S., TX 9:00 p.m. – Friendswood H.S., TX (Class AAA) 9:15 p.m. – James E. Taylor H.S., TX 9:30 p.m. – Ronald Reagan H.S., TX 9:45 p.m. – Pearland H.S., TX 10:00 p.m. – Seven Lakes H.S., TX 10:15 p.m. – Westlake H.S., TX 10:30 p.m. – Lake Travis H.S., TX 10:45 p.m. – Cedar Ridge H.S., TX 11:00 p.m. – Class AA Exhibition: Little Cypress-Mauriceville H.S., TX
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