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Post by 70sguardchick on Jun 3, 2024 15:51:05 GMT -6
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Post by neop on Jun 3, 2024 19:44:31 GMT -6
This says that the semifinals performance order will be:
- All 8 “next 8” bands in slots 1-8
- The top 11 from each prelims in slots 9-30
- Class reps after
That’s new, right?
Also, if there is only one class A or one class AA band in the “next 8”, that band will perform after the top 22 with the class reps. New or no?
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Post by paddy on Jun 3, 2024 20:11:27 GMT -6
This says that the semifinals performance order will be: - All 8 “next 8” bands in slots 1-8 - The top 11 from each prelims in slots 9-30 - Class reps after That’s new, right? Also, if there is only one class A or one class AA band in the “next 8”, that band will perform after the top 22 with the class reps. New or no? First part new last year. A/AA slotting new this year. |
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Post by Allohak on Jun 3, 2024 20:12:09 GMT -6
This says that the semifinals performance order will be: - All 8 “next 8” bands in slots 1-8 - The top 11 from each prelims in slots 9-30 - Class reps after That’s new, right? New last year Also, if there is only one class A or one class AA band in the “next 8”, that band will perform after the top 22 with the class reps. New or no? This part is new |
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 4, 2024 6:02:01 GMT -6
This says that the semifinals performance order will be: - All 8 “next 8” bands in slots 1-8 - The top 11 from each prelims in slots 9-30 - Class reps after That’s new, right? New last year Also, if there is only one class A or one class AA band in the “next 8”, that band will perform after the top 22 with the class reps. New or no? This part is new already said that. |
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 4, 2024 7:51:30 GMT -6
New last year This part is new already said that. If you saw the post times yesterday you’d have noticed that they posted at literally the exact same minute. 😂 I’m sure Allohak just didn’t notice. |
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Post by hewhowaits on Jun 4, 2024 8:07:43 GMT -6
If you saw the post times yesterday you’d have noticed that they posted at literally the exact same minute. 😂 I’m sure Allohak just didn’t notice. I saw the post times and still had to give Allohak a hard time and acknowledge paddy being 42 seconds earlier. |
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Post by philodemus on Jun 4, 2024 8:16:56 GMT -6
So... this is good, right?
At least as regards the single most important part of Grand Nationals, which, as we all agree, is correctly choosing the Class A National Champion.
I'm told other people might be there for other reasons, but I can't imagine what they are.
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Post by Allohak on Jun 4, 2024 9:57:27 GMT -6
So... this is good, right? At least as regards the choosing the Class A National Champion. I would love to simply say "yes", but the amswer in reality is much closer to "um, maybe?". In the scenario where there is only 1 class A group who qualifies on score, amd they do so while placing 12th or lower on their panel, but still part of the top 30 overall, and there are 3 class A groups advancing as class representatives...yes, this is great for giving the judges the best chance to see all the class A groups in close proximity with similar pre-performance timing (read: none of them potentially hurt by having to wake up at 3am). What we don't quite know is how this might apply if there is (at least) 1 group who finished top 11 on their panel, 1 group who did not but still advanced on score, and class representative(s). Does the next-8 group move to late in the day instead of early morning? If so, I would say that is not good for determining class champion, as it gives a preferential performance time to the group who was next-8 without benefiting the one(s) who finished top 11 of their panel. There's also the fact that this will inevitably lead to yet more questions about how the performance order was determined when (insert class A band here) performs 30th and the "middle 22" is 12 from one panel and 10 from the other and/or someone like Avon ends up performing 8th which would normally be a next-8 group. In a world designed by Allohak , performance order would be: X-X Class Representatives in "random" (predraw) order but those covering each class consecutively to each other 1-8 23-30 from prelims regardless of panel in "random" (predraw) order 9-16 1-8 from prelims regardless of panel in "random" (predraw) order 17-24 9-16 from prelims regardless of panel in "random" (predraw) order 25-30 17-22 from prelims regardless of panel in "random" (predraw) order |
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Post by dbalash on Jul 25, 2024 13:15:05 GMT -6
Probably way too far along in the build/design process for 2024, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the following implemented for 2025, as WGI has done:
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Post by paddy on Jul 25, 2024 13:41:08 GMT -6
Currently have similar language but with a 6' height for safety railings and a 12' max height.
Section 23: Performance Regulations – Equipment Use and Safety
23.01 The use of props/structures are not required for musical and/or visual achievement credit at a Bands of America Championship. The following safety guidelines are applicable to the construction, transport, and use of any prop or structure, at any Bands of America Championship and to any performer, staff, parent, or volunteer who may be assisting in the construction or transport of the prop/structure. These guidelines remain in effect throughout the pre-performance flow and the Performance Area, including set-up and exit.
a. Structures (props, backdrops, screens, or similar objects) built and/or used by Bands at Bands of America Championships shall be limited to a maximum total height of twelve (12) feet, including wheels, platforms, safety railings, other equipment, or other props placed upon the staging.
b. Soft props used for staging, which use air to create an effect, (i.e., streamers, fabric, inflatables, or similar material) are permitted up to a height of twenty-five feet. Materials such as wood, metal, plastic, PVC pipe, aluminum or other rigid properties which might be used as a support or ribbing are not permitted above the twelve feet limit.
c. No participant may be placed on any portion of any prop/structure where the participant’s lowest point of contact (i.e., feet, hands, etc.) is more than six (6) feet above the playing surface of the stadium, unless appropriate safety railing, safety harness, or protective padding is in place around prop/structure to prevent injury. Under the above circumstances, one of the following must be met:
• Safety railing, as a barrier, of at least forty-two (42) inches in height at all points, and surrounding participant(s) a minimum of 50%
• Safety harness used as a method to restrain a participant by preventing or arresting a fall
• Protective padding should be compressed foam padding (i.e., gymnastic mat) or other suitable material measuring a minimum of two (2) inches in depth If a participant is placed on any portion of any prop/structure and the lowest point of contact (i.e., feet, hands, etc.) is more than six (6) feet above the playing surface of the stadium, the following is required:
• If the prop/structure is in motion, the participant must actively use the appropriate safety railing or harness the entire time the prop/structure is in motion.
• If the prop or structure is stationary with a safety railing in place, the participant does not have to actively use the safety railing.
• If the prop or structure is stationary with no safety railing, participant must be harnessed.
d. A participant executing a lift or stunt while atop any prop/structure may not lift another participant above six (6) feet in height above the playing surface of the stadium, unless protective padding or other adequate safety precautions are in place.
Participants are prohibited from jumping or leaping off any prop/structure that exceeds six (6) feet in height above the playing surface of the stadium, unless protective padding or other adequate safety precautions are in place.
Bands of America 2024 Official Procedures and Adjudication Handbook Music for All (Bands of America) shall, at all times, have the final authority to prohibit the use or prescribe additional safety requirements of any prop/structure that presents an unreasonable or unacceptable risk of injury or harm to participants or others or potential danger to a competition venue or its property.
Exception: Drum Major podiums may exceed twelve (12) feet and Drum Majors may stand more than six (6) feet above the playing surface if he/she is using a podium and provided such podium has appropriate safety railings. It is recommended that safety railings are, at a minimum, on the front and back of the podium and forty-two (42) inches in height.
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Post by hewhowaits on Jul 25, 2024 13:43:31 GMT -6
Props that tall aren't permitted in BOA at all.
The four foot rule indoors on a hard surface feels equivalent to the existing six foot rule on a football field. Yes, some field surfaces are less forgiving than others, but even bad turf or grass is softer than a gym floor.
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Post by paddy on Jul 25, 2024 13:47:01 GMT -6
Props that tall aren't permitted in BOA at all. The four foot rule indoors on a hard surface feels equivalent to the existing six foot rule on a football field. Yes, some field surfaces are less forgiving than others, but even bad turf or grass is softer than a gym floor. And the locking wheel language is really not needed on field/turf. |
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