mbga
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Post by mbga on Nov 1, 2021 11:09:08 GMT -6
Realistically I don’t see Blue Springs in, but I can pretty much guarantee they’ll get in anyways lol Realistically someone sounds very jelly
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Post by trumpette123 on Nov 1, 2021 11:37:21 GMT -6
Realistically I don’t see Blue Springs in, but I can pretty much guarantee they’ll get in anyways lol Realistically someone sounds very jelly Hmm I doubt it’s that. I think they’ll be in. Their show might not be as complex as someone like Wandos. But their show will probably be cleaner. We have our own opinions on who should and shouldn’t be in, but at the end of the day it’s what the judges see and hear. And I think blue springs will be pretty clean come grand nationals, even if the complexity of their show isn’t as hard as someone in the teens range. I think they’ll be in the lower half. It’s a good show, just not my favorite of theirs recently.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 11:41:46 GMT -6
Realistically I don’t see Blue Springs in, but I can pretty much guarantee they’ll get in anyways lol Realistically someone sounds very jelly Doubtful. Some bands have to be left out. Blue Springs and DB both popping 90s does complicate things though
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Nov 1, 2021 12:01:33 GMT -6
In the spirit of this crazy season and way too early prediction craziness 😎. No particular order:
Broken Arrow Carmel Flower Mound Reagan Avon Vista Ridge The Woodlands Marcus Claudia Taylor Johnson Mason Wando Round Rock
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Post by principalagent on Nov 1, 2021 13:00:37 GMT -6
I don’t mind Blue Springs’s show. It’s not 2017 or 2018 to me but I like it more than 2019. I just think that the music book might not hold up well compared to seven Texas bands and ABC. It’s very lightly scored for the band and relies very heavily on soloists and ensembles. When ten other bands (and I think you can include Mason, DB, Castle, and Wando to really make it 14) are providing a lot of meat for 60% of the score, and considering that at a base level, Blue Springs isn’t nearly the strongest playing band in this field, I think Blue Springs doesn’t have the ground to be totally comfortable walking into finals. I think they’re more likely in, but it’s not hard to see them out.
But it’s also not hard to see all but 8, plus probably 2 *M*ore bands with them, out of finals. The bubble is wide, and weaknesses and strengths and how they balance will matter a lot next Saturday afternoon.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 13:13:08 GMT -6
I don’t mind Blue Springs’s show. It’s not 2017 or 2018 to me but I like it more than 2019. I just think that the music book might not hold up well compared to seven Texas bands and ABC. It’s very lightly scored for the band and relies very heavily on soloists and ensembles. When ten other bands (and I think you can include Mason, DB, Castle, and Wando to really make it 14) are providing a lot of meat for 60% of the score, and considering that at a base level, Blue Springs isn’t nearly the strongest playing band in this field, I think Blue Springs doesn’t have the ground to be totally comfortable walking into finals. I think they’re more likely in, but it’s not hard to see them out. But it’s also not hard to see all but 8, plus probably 2 *M*ore bands with them, out of finals. The bubble is wide, and weaknesses and strengths and how they balance will matter a lot next Saturday afternoon. The bubble is probably the widest since at least 2016. btw... what is ABC??
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Post by principalagent on Nov 1, 2021 13:19:10 GMT -6
ABC is the new moniker I’m trying to coin for the consistent trio of Avon, Carmel and Broken Arrow. It’s already picking up some steam.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 13:29:14 GMT -6
ABC is the new moniker I’m trying to coin for consistent trio of Avon, Carmel and Broken Arrow. It’s already picking up some steam. Ah I see, I like it!
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 1, 2021 13:45:22 GMT -6
ABC is the new moniker I’m trying to coin for consistent trio of Avon, Carmel and Broken Arrow. It’s already picking up some steam. I know I've used it outside of the forums at least once.
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Post by wolverton on Nov 1, 2021 15:09:05 GMT -6
Realistically I don’t see Blue Springs in, but I can pretty much guarantee they’ll get in anyways lol Now what does that mean?
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Post by nomorehoney on Nov 1, 2021 15:31:33 GMT -6
Idk, I honestly don't see how blue springs would end up out of finals. I mean obviously they could have a disaster run where everything goes wrong but that's pretty much the only scenario imo
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 1, 2021 15:45:57 GMT -6
Can I suggest a PSA for all new accounts joining the forums these past few days and next two weeks leading into Grand Nats? Your bands are all great. Your bands all entertain the hell out of us. The fact that us random folks on the internet discuss them at length should suggest that. It's a tough year. Folks make predictions for fun, and it's not worth reading into it. Soak in the rest of your season, get back to practice, and show us how wrong we all are.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 16:02:17 GMT -6
Can I suggest a PSA for all new accounts joining the forums these past few days and next two weeks leading into Grand Nats? Your bands are all great. Your bands all entertain the hell out of us. The fact that us random folks on the internet discuss them at length should suggest that. It's a tough year. Folks make predictions for fun, and it's not worth reading into it. Soak in the rest of your season, get back to practice, and show us how wrong we all are. Absolutely! We are just here discussing the competitive game for the fun of it. This semifinals may be the best we’ve EVER seen
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Post by wolverton on Nov 1, 2021 16:15:21 GMT -6
Can I suggest a PSA for all new accounts joining the forums these past few days and next two weeks leading into Grand Nats? Your bands are all great. Your bands all entertain the hell out of us. The fact that us random folks on the internet discuss them at length should suggest that. It's a tough year. Folks make predictions for fun, and it's not worth reading into it. Soak in the rest of your season, get back to practice, and show us how wrong we all are. I apologize if something I said came off the wrong way, and if you’re talking about me, I’m long past being in band and don’t have a connection to any of these bands up for finals contention. I genuinely wanted to know what that poster meant by “realistically” they don’t see them in, but they can “pretty much guarantee” they’ll get in. Just trying to get an answer so I don’t read too much into it
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 16:18:52 GMT -6
Can I suggest a PSA for all new accounts joining the forums these past few days and next two weeks leading into Grand Nats? Your bands are all great. Your bands all entertain the hell out of us. The fact that us random folks on the internet discuss them at length should suggest that. It's a tough year. Folks make predictions for fun, and it's not worth reading into it. Soak in the rest of your season, get back to practice, and show us how wrong we all are. I apologize if something I said came off the wrong way, and if you’re talking about me, I’m long past being in band and don’t have a connection to any of these bands up for finals contention. I genuinely wanted to know what that poster meant by “realistically” they don’t see them in, but they can “pretty much guarantee” they’ll get in. Just trying to get an answer so I don’t read too much into it is really tough to know people's real tone via text like this on the forums. I can assure you words get twisted on here almost daily - no worries
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 1, 2021 16:33:53 GMT -6
Can I suggest a PSA for all new accounts joining the forums these past few days and next two weeks leading into Grand Nats? Your bands are all great. Your bands all entertain the hell out of us. The fact that us random folks on the internet discuss them at length should suggest that. It's a tough year. Folks make predictions for fun, and it's not worth reading into it. Soak in the rest of your season, get back to practice, and show us how wrong we all are. I apologize if something I said came off the wrong way, and if you’re talking about me, I’m long past being in band and don’t have a connection to any of these bands up for finals contention. I genuinely wanted to know what that poster meant by “realistically” they don’t see them in, but they can “pretty much guarantee” they’ll get in. Just trying to get an answer so I don’t read too much into it Not at all! Purposely didn't quote any posts in the above. We just historically see a lot of new folks joining at this point in the season, when members should really just be super focused and enjoy their final performances after working so hard all season. It's hard to ignore commentary, but you kind of have to do it and just focus on what's within your control. It's been two years since we've seen bands on the GN stage and yet we're facing one of the most elite fields the activity has seen. It's wild to see it all play out. Even the most critical of our bunch can appreciate what the members are putting on the field this year, and nobody should let our silly predictions come across as minimizing their efforts.
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 1, 2021 16:57:52 GMT -6
After seeing a new video of Claudia Taylor Johnson from area this past weekend, I think they might be a dark horse to medal. People have been down on them a bit but they've made a lot of changes to the production so now everything flows more smoothly, from better use of the vocalist to more integration of the opposites theme into the drill and choreography. This was already one of my favorite shows of the year but now I love it even more. It is probably one of if not the most demanding show of the season both visually and musically. Such a shame they weren't able to perform the entire show at area because of the UIL time limits, but I can't wait to see the full production at San Antonio and Grand Nationals, because I absolutely love it.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 18:05:36 GMT -6
I don't agree with you on this. The fun of high school marching band and actually being in the band itself is mixing things up at the most exciting time of the year for many bands. There is nothing wrong with talking smack as long as you believe that you can back it up with a great performance & of course know that you have zero control over the actual outcome. Only control over your own personal performance and perhaps your squad/section/group. Embrace this time. Meet the moment. Make noise everywhere. It has been a long two year break & you have every right to ask the outside world what they think and show what YOU KNOW and what you want OTHERS TO KNOW about your band. Many of the people here, myself included, couldn't care less about YOUR experience in band, this is practically a sport to most of the posters to begin with, so don't let anyone out there tell you that you should go back to practice. Make the most of your practice time, but don't kill yourself into working 24 hours a day and never soak it all in. Good luck to all bands! OK. But just so I understand, you're suggesting members of these bands should not soak it all in and prove the naysayers wrong, but should instead embrace this time and meet the moment? Am I reading that right? LOL who knows. I kinda get what he is saying, but in practice it doesn't work. In DCI especially we would purposely not watch other groups so we could focus best on our own craft. We see that with bands facing the other direction before performances to focus on what they can control ect., of course we would look at scores and listen to judges tapes. I think that was a little extreme but it is hard to do both - especially for young high schoolers. However, the joy of being OUT of the activity like many of us are is to critique amateurly. We are not judges. I am fine with criticism of any band as long as it is done in a respectful (positive?) and open to different opinions. Cough* Music GE * cough. I change my opinions of groups A LOT and am not afraid to say so. I am sure Saturday of semis I will eat so many words I said here all season
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Post by ilikeguard on Nov 1, 2021 18:47:42 GMT -6
Realistically I don’t see Blue Springs in, but I can pretty much guarantee they’ll get in anyways lol Now what does that mean? Looks like a couple of people made accounts because of this comment lol. I’ve been watching them live since 2017 and they always seem to place higher than the impression I get from the show. I don’t deny that they’re amazing, but the style of design has never resonated with me and I’m not alone in thinking that. I just happen to have different preferences than a lot of BOA judges.
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Post by mbga on Nov 1, 2021 19:51:22 GMT -6
Looks like a couple of people made accounts because of this comment lol. I’ve been watching them live since 2017 and they always seem to place higher than the impression I get from the show. I don’t deny that they’re amazing, but the style of design has never resonated with me and I’m not alone in thinking that. I just happen to have different preferences than a lot of BOA judges. Realistically someone sounds very jelly
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Post by batubamullet on Nov 1, 2021 19:55:03 GMT -6
I feel like Broken Arrow’s show is kind of a time traveling love story. “The Edge of Eternity” referring to the fact that circles have one never ending edge. We see the main guard girl and marching guy coming together and then being separated several times throughout. That’s just my impression though. Hi Tuba player from BA! Your close our show this year is mainly kinda having a spittin image of our 2011 Show “Destiny leaves you no choice”
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Post by bearlytiger on Nov 1, 2021 19:57:28 GMT -6
Looks like a couple of people made accounts because of this comment lol. I’ve been watching them live since 2017 and they always seem to place higher than the impression I get from the show. I don’t deny that they’re amazing, but the style of design has never resonated with me and I’m not alone in thinking that. I just happen to have different preferences than a lot of BOA judges. Ooh aah u wish u were a Wildcat…
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Post by principalagent on Nov 1, 2021 20:00:36 GMT -6
Looks like a couple of people made accounts because of this comment lol. I’ve been watching them live since 2017 and they always seem to place higher than the impression I get from the show. I don’t deny that they’re amazing, but the style of design has never resonated with me and I’m not alone in thinking that. I just happen to have different preferences than a lot of BOA judges. Ooh aah u wish u were a Wildcat… I promise you. Your band can speak a lot better on the field than a forum. It's not that serious. Perform like hell next Saturday morning/afternoon and prove them wrong. After seeing a new video of Claudia Taylor Johnson from area this past weekend, I think they might be a dark horse to medal. People have been down on them a bit but they've made a lot of changes to the production so now everything flows more smoothly, from better use of the vocalist to more integration of the opposites theme into the drill and choreography. This was already one of my favorite shows of the year but now I love it even more. It is probably one of if not the most demanding show of the season both visually and musically. Such a shame they weren't able to perform the entire show at area because of the UIL time limits, but I can't wait to see the full production at San Antonio and Grand Nationals, because I absolutely love it. One thing I do like about CTJ, and other bands like Homestead and Flower Mound, is that they're never afraid to just change whole chunks of the show if need be. Notably, these are all bands that always have the show down by the first competition. Putting it all down early allows the opportunity to know if something isn't actually working, and fix it in time.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 20:03:42 GMT -6
Looks like a couple of people made accounts because of this comment lol. I’ve been watching them live since 2017 and they always seem to place higher than the impression I get from the show. I don’t deny that they’re amazing, but the style of design has never resonated with me and I’m not alone in thinking that. I just happen to have different preferences than a lot of BOA judges. Yup! We all often do!
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Post by mbga on Nov 1, 2021 20:06:45 GMT -6
Ooh aah u wish u were a Wildcat… I promise you. Your band can speak a lot better on the field than a forum. It's not that serious. Perform like hell next Saturday morning/afternoon and prove them wrong. After seeing a new video of Claudia Taylor Johnson from area this past weekend, I think they might be a dark horse to medal. People have been down on them a bit but they've made a lot of changes to the production so now everything flows more smoothly, from better use of the vocalist to more integration of the opposites theme into the drill and choreography. This was already one of my favorite shows of the year but now I love it even more. It is probably one of if not the most demanding show of the season both visually and musically. Such a shame they weren't able to perform the entire show at area because of the UIL time limits, but I can't wait to see the full production at San Antonio and Grand Nationals, because I absolutely love it. One thing I do like about CTJ, and other bands like Homestead and Flower Mound, is that they're never afraid to just change whole chunks of the show if need be. Notably, these are all bands that always have the show down by the first competition. Putting it all down early allows the opportunity to know if something isn't actually working, and fix it in time. It’s insulting to the kids that work their butts off to infer that they don’t deserve what they earned. No place for that.
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 1, 2021 20:12:25 GMT -6
I'm sure no one here is implying that any band doesn't work hard or doesn't deserve what they've earned. People here have their own subjective opinions on bands that they like to share here for discussion. If there are any students reading these threads, don't take anything people say here to heart. These are just the opinions of people that ultimately don't have an effect on how you and your bands will perform at competitions. Go out there and leave it all on the field!
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Post by mk72 on Nov 1, 2021 20:24:51 GMT -6
For some reason, my mind can't fathom the fact that Nats is NEXT WEEK?!?! This season literally flew by so freaking quick, and GN is literally gonna be the highlight of the second half of 2021 for me lol. Everyone, students, spectators, teachers, and parents, deserves those 3 days after a year of no band. I legitimately cannot wait!!!
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Post by ilikeguard on Nov 1, 2021 20:32:16 GMT -6
I have some good friends who are Blue Springs alums- I can definitely testify that they work hard hahaha. Me having an opinion about marching band design online absolutely does not discount your hard work. And I’m in no place to be jelly- maybe if I were a current student from a closely ranked band. But I’m just a small town band alum that likes to watch a lot of bands 😉
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 1, 2021 20:39:03 GMT -6
For some reason, my mind can't fathom the fact that Nats is NEXT WEEK?!?! This season literally flew by so freaking quick, and GN is literally gonna be the highlight of the second half of 2021 for me lol. Everyone, students, spectators, teachers, and parents, deserves those 3 days after a year of no band. I legitimately cannot wait!!! Same! Semis is like Christmas… (or maybe better 😁) don’t want to start WWIII 😂😂
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Post by ilikeguard on Nov 1, 2021 20:42:36 GMT -6
For some reason, my mind can't fathom the fact that Nats is NEXT WEEK?!?! This season literally flew by so freaking quick, and GN is literally gonna be the highlight of the second half of 2021 for me lol. Everyone, students, spectators, teachers, and parents, deserves those 3 days after a year of no band. I legitimately cannot wait!!! Same! Semis is like Christmas… (or maybe better 😁) don’t want to start WWIII 😂😂 Grand Nationals is definitely up there in my favorite holidays tierlist
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