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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 26, 2020 20:07:13 GMT -6
- We see an east coast super regional (perhaps in Winston-Salem again??)
While I would love to see BOA at Wake Forest again in that fantastic stadium, I don't know if they would go that route again after WFU burned them a couple years ago. As far as other universities in NC possibly hosting, I don't know if there are any that could really work. UNC Chapel Hill used to host their own show back in the 90s-early 00's, but the football program put an end to that after the field got pretty beat up in the rain in 2001. UNC Charlotte's stadium is fairly nice and is centrally located, but the press box is a little low and parking would be an absolute nightmare. I'm just not sure that it's feasible to host a show in the area without it being at either WFU or a larger high school stadium in northern SC again. Maybe there are other possible university options in SC?
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Post by paddy on May 26, 2020 20:11:43 GMT -6
Just saying they never go away for long, and have been very close to making GN finals recently. When listing quality programs in Indiana, they shouldn't be forgotten Fair, but I feel like they’ve fallen out of the “best bands not named Avon/Carmel” tier in Indiana. Their longevity deserve respect, but also props them up a bit. Admittedly, I have not liked their show design the last 3 years and that probably has jaded me.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on May 26, 2020 20:26:03 GMT -6
How about some Northeast band predictions:
- We see the return of a New England/Northeast BOA Regional (in CT? NY?) - We fail to see any bands from this region attend Grand Nationals, save for one new band from NY that currently doesn't do BOA
Massachusetts: - Wakefield becomes a regular competitor in BOA, making regional finals at least twice - Billerica and Oakmont-Overlook make their first appearances at a BOA regional, both medaling in class at least once
Rhode Island: - Cranston East attends one regional, fails to make finals, and never does BOA again
Connecticut: - Norwalk continues to soar - Trumbull fades away - Masuk makes finals at at least one BOA regional, becoming neck and neck with Trumbull as the second/third best band in CT - Newtown rises slightly before fading back to their current level
New York: - Arlington continues to avoid BOA, though making finals at each regional they sporadically decide to attend - Baldwinsville finally does BOA, becoming a consistent regional finalist and the most well-known NY band of the 2020s - Liverpool (a GN finalist from the 1980s) returns to BOA, peaking at 8th place at a regional - Cicero-North Syracuse continues to either barely make or barely miss the mid-atlantic BOA regional finals - Victor continues to be hit or miss, faring better than WG but typically peaking at 11th place at regionals - West Genesee fades to the wayside, failing to make finals ever again - Mineola, Malverne, and Sachem all attend at least one regional, with the possibility of just barely making a regional finals
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 26, 2020 20:47:35 GMT -6
New York: - Arlington continues to avoid BOA, though making finals at each regional they sporadically decide to attend - Baldwinsville finally does BOA, becoming a consistent regional finalist and the most well-known NY band of the 2020s - Liverpool (a GN finalist from the 1980s) returns to BOA, peaking at 8th place at a regional - Cicero-North Syracuse continues to either barely make or barely miss the mid-atlantic BOA regional finals - Victor continues to be hit or miss, faring better than WG but typically peaking at 11th place at regionals - West Genesee fades to the wayside, failing to make finals ever again - Mineola, Malverne, and Sachem all attend at least one regional, with the possibility of just barely making a regional finals What about Webster?
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 26, 2020 20:55:23 GMT -6
UIL finally decides to right a terrible wrong and awards the 1993 state championship to Crockett High School.
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Post by Allohak on May 26, 2020 20:57:27 GMT -6
UIL finally decides to right a terrible wrong and awards the 1993 state championship to Crockett High School. So tragic, what happened. A real shame.
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 26, 2020 21:02:07 GMT -6
Boys....we must not discuss that which must not be named.
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Post by abtwitch on May 26, 2020 21:03:29 GMT -6
I'll throw in some more west Texas predictions for the heck of it:
- El Paso bands start participating in BOA more again and we regularly see multiple finalist spots at BOA Midland filled by El Paso bands by the end of the decade. - An El Paso regional makes a reappearance, but then immediately gets scrapped much like in 2007. - Frenship FINALLY modernizes their design and starts being competitive at BOA Midland. - Abilene continues to modernize and makes BOA Midland finals at least once. - Permian makes finals at BOA DFW. - BOA Midland is won by a west Texas band at least once. - Clovis wins BOA Midland in huge upset against a Texas powerhouse. - (not BOA) J.M. Hanks continues to climb upwards and makes finals at the 5A state competition. - A west Texas band breaks 80 and places in the top half of BOA San Antonio. - I'm restating my prediction of BOA Amarillo (or a regional in that general area). - The first west Texas band makes the trip to Grand Nationals and makes semi-finals by score. - Pecos wins class A at BOA San Antonio at least once.
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Post by itsjustband on May 26, 2020 21:36:26 GMT -6
Boys....we must not discuss that which must not be named. ........... I would like to know
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Post by Allohak on May 26, 2020 21:48:29 GMT -6
Boys....we must not discuss that which must not be named. ........... I would like to know One cannot be told, but rather must find out for themselves. Tread carefully, though. Many who know find themselves wishing they hadn't learned.
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Post by OldSchoolTrumpet on May 27, 2020 4:34:35 GMT -6
UIL finally decides to right a terrible wrong and awards the 1993 state championship to Crockett High School. Someone sent me a video of that show a few years ago...on betamax oddly, as I still had an old Sony unit. Amazing show, but I can understand why no one involved wants to talk about it even today. Sadly the old Betamax machine gave up for the final time before I was able to transfer the show to digital. A shame.
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Post by hewhowaits on May 27, 2020 5:22:24 GMT -6
on betamax oddly, as I still had an old Sony unit. Why does this not surprise any of us?
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Post by hewhowaits on May 27, 2020 5:24:07 GMT -6
Webster will continue to have more mentions on the forums than all other New York bands combined.
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Post by Subito Fortissimo on May 27, 2020 7:24:44 GMT -6
UIL finally decides to right a terrible wrong and awards the 1993 state championship to Crockett High School. Someone sent me a video of that show a few years ago...on betamax oddly, as I still had an old Sony unit. Amazing show, but I can understand why no one involved wants to talk about it even today. Sadly the old Betamax machine gave up for the final time before I was able to transfer the show to digital. A shame. I believe JRIADA had a digital copy. Might still be floating around out there. Truly an amazing show.
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Post by dbalash on May 27, 2020 8:02:36 GMT -6
Someone sent me a video of that show a few years ago...on betamax oddly, as I still had an old Sony unit. Amazing show, but I can understand why no one involved wants to talk about it even today. Sadly the old Betamax machine gave up for the final time before I was able to transfer the show to digital. A shame. I believe JRIADA had a digital copy. Might still be floating around out there. Truly an amazing show. Damn, do I miss that site. That and Skramp's... #old #getoffmylawn
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Post by Allohak on May 27, 2020 8:12:57 GMT -6
I believe JRIADA had a digital copy. Might still be floating around out there. Truly an amazing show. Damn, do I miss that site. That and Skramp's... #old #getoffmylawn Seriously, has anyone heard from Skramp? Not sure he's aware this forum exists
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Post by dbalash on May 27, 2020 8:31:07 GMT -6
Damn, do I miss that site. That and Skramp's... #old #getoffmylawn Seriously, has anyone heard from Skramp? Not sure he's aware this forum exists I talk to him occasionally.
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Post by Allohak on May 27, 2020 8:32:09 GMT -6
UIL finally decides to right a terrible wrong and awards the 1993 state championship to Crockett High School. Someone sent me a video of that show a few years ago...on betamax oddly, as I still had an old Sony unit. Amazing show, but I can understand why no one involved wants to talk about it even today. Sadly the old Betamax machine gave up for the final time before I was able to transfer the show to digital. A shame. You're in luck - apparently, the Betamax you were sent was previously duplicated and a VHS copy was made, which was eventually converted to digital. It's VERY grainy, but here it is, for anyone who wants to see the end product: Crockett '93
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 27, 2020 8:32:32 GMT -6
Jeff. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Allohak on May 27, 2020 8:33:54 GMT -6
Dang video preview won't go away 😔 EDIT: got it!
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Post by LeanderMomma on May 27, 2020 8:38:44 GMT -6
Dang video preview won't go away 😔 EDIT: got it! ohhh. Cool trick!
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Post by bostonfan2004 on May 27, 2020 8:47:27 GMT -6
- Billerica and Oakmont-Overlook make their first appearances at a BOA regional, both medaling in class at least once Good prediction! I would love to see us compete in BOA! However, at this point, with the budget problems and us losing members in hornline, I don't think my band director wants to put us in another circuit. Our marching band is at the risk of dying in 5-10 years if we can't recruit enough hornline members. There have been talks about having some percussion and guard members playing in hornline for the sake of keeping it alive. Hopefully, we rebound to our USBands days(USSBA back then) by the end of the decade. We were consistently one of the best bands in the state when we did MICCA and USSBA. Maybe then, DeMoura will consider putting us in BOA.
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Post by marimba11 on May 27, 2020 10:47:28 GMT -6
Y’all are hilarious.
I find it hard to fathom the band scene will be much stronger in northeast. Everyone is leaving there and coming south. James Madison does show the most promise but they have some work to do. Virginia bands could definitely have potential. However we haven’t really seen much of a breakout in NC lately. I’d say Green Hope 2017 was our best chance at that.
I’d put my money on Florida really becoming very strong in the coming years, as well as parts of SC. Two very prominent SC bands are in the process of hiring an additional director each for this next year.
While Wando will be safe this year it seems, their future is still about even all things considered. I think DB will be in the top half of finals again very soon.
I think Kennesaw Mountain has bottomed out and while I think they’ll see some competitive success their overall situation will probably keep them in the semifinals realm at best. Harrison will continue to be an excellent bubble band as they’ve proved for over a decade now (even with some rough shows in their portfolio.)
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Post by kvbrass on May 27, 2020 11:33:40 GMT -6
Y’all are hilarious. I find it hard to fathom the band scene will be much stronger in northeast. Everyone is leaving there and coming south. James Madison does show the most promise but they have some work to do. Virginia bands could definitely have potential. However we haven’t really seen much of a breakout in NC lately. I’d say Green Hope 2017 was our best chance at that. I’d put my money on Florida really becoming very strong in the coming years, as well as parts of SC. Two very prominent SC bands are in the process of hiring an additional director each for this next year. While Wando will be safe this year it seems, their future is still about even all things considered. I think DB will be in the top half of finals again very soon. I think Kennesaw Mountain has bottomed out and while I think they’ll see some competitive success their overall situation will probably keep them in the semifinals realm at best. Harrison will continue to be an excellent bubble band as they’ve proved for over a decade now (even with some rough shows in their portfolio.) Florida for sure. More tarpon, timber creek, and windemere! Who else should I check out?
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Post by marimba11 on May 27, 2020 11:57:32 GMT -6
Y’all are hilarious. I find it hard to fathom the band scene will be much stronger in northeast. Everyone is leaving there and coming south. James Madison does show the most promise but they have some work to do. Virginia bands could definitely have potential. However we haven’t really seen much of a breakout in NC lately. I’d say Green Hope 2017 was our best chance at that. I’d put my money on Florida really becoming very strong in the coming years, as well as parts of SC. Two very prominent SC bands are in the process of hiring an additional director each for this next year. While Wando will be safe this year it seems, their future is still about even all things considered. I think DB will be in the top half of finals again very soon. I think Kennesaw Mountain has bottomed out and while I think they’ll see some competitive success their overall situation will probably keep them in the semifinals realm at best. Harrison will continue to be an excellent bubble band as they’ve proved for over a decade now (even with some rough shows in their portfolio.) Florida for sure. More tarpon, timber creek, and windemere! Who else should I check out? West Broward, Nease, Stoneman Douglas, Gainesville, University. Braden River is good as is Newsome and of course Seminole
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Post by abtwitch on May 27, 2020 12:23:53 GMT -6
However we haven’t really seen much of a breakout in NC lately. I’d say Green Hope 2017 was our best chance at that. How was Cleveland not a breakout this year? Any band that puts up a fair fight against Dobyns-Bennett should definitely be noted.
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Post by marimba11 on May 27, 2020 12:48:56 GMT -6
However we haven’t really seen much of a breakout in NC lately. I’d say Green Hope 2017 was our best chance at that. How was Cleveland not a breakout this year? Any band that puts up a fair fight against Dobyns-Bennett should definitely be noted. Cleveland did very well this year no doubt. They did well regionally too I don’t dispute that. But DB this year isn’t really comparable to their past shows as they CLEARLY did not design “Fearless” in order to compete the same way they do for GN. Let’s see Cleveland continue to have success and they will have a very promising future. I would also point out Green Hope and Mooresville also beat Cleveland at Johnson City prelims.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on May 27, 2020 13:09:39 GMT -6
I’m not going to quote the whole Northeast post, but I do agree with a lot of it. Especially baldwinsville becoming a prominent name on the BOA scene. They went to the rose parade last year and got some name recognition from that. I am interested in why you think Norwalk will start to trend downward? Are they going through a director change soon or is it just kind of a gut instinct thing? They were very good last year winning USBands by a pretty substantial margin. I mixed up Trumbull and Norwalk––I think Norwalk will continue to stay competitive, whereas Trumbull will enter a rough patch. Though Trumbull's guard will always shine, it seems as though there's been a shakeup in their band/percussion program recently. (I hope I'm wrong about my prediction and that they end up being neck-and-neck with Norwalk again soon enough!) Baldwinsville is a band that everyone should check out... I think they're on to something special. Their 2019 fall show is on Youtube and worth watching. For northeastern standards, they're pretty progressive!
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Post by secret on May 27, 2020 13:23:53 GMT -6
I’m not going to quote the whole Northeast post, but I do agree with a lot of it. Especially baldwinsville becoming a prominent name on the BOA scene. They went to the rose parade last year and got some name recognition from that. I am interested in why you think Norwalk will start to trend downward? Are they going through a director change soon or is it just kind of a gut instinct thing? They were very good last year winning USBands by a pretty substantial margin. I mixed up Trumbull and Norwalk––I think Norwalk will continue to stay competitive, whereas Trumbull will enter a rough patch. Though Trumbull's guard will always shine, it seems as though there's been a shakeup in their band/percussion program recently. (I hope I'm wrong about my prediction and that they end up being neck-and-neck with Norwalk again soon enough!) Baldwinsville is a band that everyone should check out... I think they're on to something special. Their 2019 fall show is on Youtube and worth watching. For northeastern standards, they're pretty progressive! I wish Norwalk would venture into BOA.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on May 27, 2020 13:30:02 GMT -6
Y’all are hilarious. I find it hard to fathom the band scene will be much stronger in northeast. Everyone is leaving there and coming south. Will the northeast become a powerhouse region for band? I highly doubt it. But I do think certain programs are on the rise, which typically inspires growth amongst their competitors, too. We on the forums may not notice this, though, because most of these programs stick to their regional circuits––NYSFBC in NY, NESBA and MICCA in MA, and MAC in NY/CT (though MAC hasn't hosted a fall season in a couple years). Most of my optimism comes from the recent successes of many WGI scholastic groups. Off the top of my head, from NY, we've seen East Syracuse-Minoa, Baldwinsville, Liverpool, Central Square, Mohonasen, Arlington, Victor, and Cicero-North Syracuse (known as "North Syracuse Central" in WGI) succeed at regionals and at WGI Championships. From MA, there's been Billerica, Wakefield, Mansfield, and King Philip. From CT, there's obviously Trumbull, but also Norwalk, Bethel, and Masuk. I'm less familiar with WGI percussion, but there's been a slow burn of success from this region, too. With an increase of programs with successful WGI groups, plus a steady increase of drum corps kids in the northeast sticking around and teaching, I do believe we'll find a lot of these programs modernizing and finding more success than ever before. The biggest question that remains, IMHO, is whether these bands will actually go out of their way to attend BOA regionals... only time will tell!
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