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Post by hoosiertexan on Nov 8, 2021 22:12:18 GMT -6
Dumb question, but what does the little number by the total mean and why is Hebron’s half of Vandys.
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Post by asaiah on Nov 8, 2021 22:13:57 GMT -6
Ordinal number, a total of each caption ranking.
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Post by cp823 on Nov 8, 2021 22:14:19 GMT -6
It’s the combined total of each rank Hebron earned from the 7 judges. So, a lower score is better.
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 8, 2021 22:14:22 GMT -6
Dumb question, but what does the little number by the total mean and why is Hebron’s half of Vandys. The 1 means they were put first by that specific judge. 2 3 4 and so on
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Post by Shroom on Nov 8, 2021 22:39:14 GMT -6
God damn, amazing work Coppell. I wasn't a massive fan of their 2019 show but they are absolutely blowing it out of the park this year, can't wait to see if they show up to Nats next year.
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Post by ps0010 on Nov 8, 2021 22:51:35 GMT -6
(Officially leaked publicly on txbands) And removed as it should be.
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 8, 2021 22:52:27 GMT -6
God damn, amazing work Coppell. I wasn't a massive fan of their 2019 show but they are absolutely blowing it out of the park this year, can't wait to see if they show up to Nats next year. They're doing so well! I really liked their show this year but even I have to admit I wasn't expecting this level of success. To get 8th at San Antonio beating a lot of established BOA bands and then be within 5 ordinal points of a medal at state prelims is absolutely phenomenal. And this is all with Kim Shuttlesworth being in her first year at the program. Coppell has a very rich history of success with UIL and concert band, but they traditionally haven't fared too well in BOA, so I hope this season is the beginning of a bright future for them in BOA. I really hope they make the trip to Indianapolis too, they've been discussing it a lot over the past several years.
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Post by hoosiertexan on Nov 9, 2021 1:48:01 GMT -6
Hello all I just noticed that 6A and 2A are both today and they are very close in time. I want to get a good seat today so does that mean I would have to go durning 2A? Is the stadium cleared in between? Thanks in advance
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 9, 2021 5:58:28 GMT -6
Among the top 6 placements, the only positions that would be switched based on raw score rather than ordinals is CTJ and Coppell in 5th and 6th. Coppell would edge ahead of CTJ on raw numbers.
The gaps for 1st-2nd (0.67) and 2nd-3rd (0.61) are both larger than the gap for 3rd-6th (0.43).
Using scores like those outside of Texas are accustomed to seeing (average across judges divided by 10): 1) Hebron - 98.14 2) Vandegrift - 97.47 3) Flower Mound - 96.86 4) Ronald Reagan - 96.76 5) Coppell - 96.66 6) Claudia Taylor Johnson - 96.43
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Post by stix on Nov 9, 2021 13:05:49 GMT -6
Do the judges adjudicating finals typically get to see the preliminary results? If preliminary results are shared with the judges, wouldn't it make it difficult to be objective in finals knowing preliminary placements?
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Post by ps0010 on Nov 9, 2021 14:28:58 GMT -6
Can they make the interviews after each performance any louder? I’m struggling to hear…..NOT!
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Post by hostrauser on Nov 9, 2021 14:37:15 GMT -6
Do the judges adjudicating finals typically get to see the preliminary results? If preliminary results are shared with the judges, wouldn't it make it difficult to be objective in finals knowing preliminary placements? That's a common belief amongst non-judges, but literally every marching band and drum corps judge I have talked to (dozens and dozens over the decades) absolutely could not care less about prior/preliminary results and have no interest in searching for or seeing those recaps.
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Post by hewhowaits on Nov 9, 2021 14:45:21 GMT -6
Do the judges adjudicating finals typically get to see the preliminary results? If preliminary results are shared with the judges, wouldn't it make it difficult to be objective in finals knowing preliminary placements? Even at competitions where the same judges assess both prelims and finals (but switching up captions), the judges don't see the overall prelims results prior to finals. They only know how they individually assessed each band.
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Post by mk72 on Nov 9, 2021 15:24:36 GMT -6
Is Box5 showing a 404 error message for anyone else who’s trying to watch 6A rn?
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Post by ps0010 on Nov 9, 2021 15:26:06 GMT -6
Is Box5 showing a 404 error message for anyone else who’s trying to watch 6A rn? Log out and then back in. It did that to me several times during SABOA.
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Post by srv1084 on Nov 9, 2021 16:52:20 GMT -6
Is Box5 showing a 404 error message for anyone else who’s trying to watch 6A rn? Happens to me a number of times per broadcast. It starts buffering, and when I refresh it inevitably logs me out. I've messaged them a number of times about this but keeping getting a "we'll look into it, just deal with it" type of response while suggesting I maybe try a different browser and see if it happens (it does). I think they need to understand how widespread of an issue this is, so I would encourage anyone having it happen to contact them.
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Post by mk72 on Nov 9, 2021 17:17:49 GMT -6
Is Box5 showing a 404 error message for anyone else who’s trying to watch 6A rn? Happens to me a number of times per broadcast. It starts buffering, and when I refresh it inevitably logs me out. I've messaged them a number of times about this but keeping getting a "we'll look into it, just deal with it" type of response while suggesting I maybe try a different browser and see if it happens (it does). I think they need to understand how widespread of an issue this is, so I would encourage anyone having it happen to contact them. For real! I tried logging out and back in several times, but it never worked:( At least we can watch the finals ceremony on YT so that’s nice, but I still would've liked to watch the actual thing live:(((
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Post by 18Saxes on Nov 9, 2021 17:22:29 GMT -6
Does UIL rank based on ordinals in finals as well? Or do they do it based off actual score
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Post by verysaxy on Nov 9, 2021 17:42:31 GMT -6
Every single woodwind judge had CTJ in second… interesting with nats coming up. If they manage their brass CTJ could be in the running for music with a sloppy BA performance (albeit very unlikely!)
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 9, 2021 17:50:33 GMT -6
Does UIL rank based on ordinals in finals as well? Or do they do it based off actual score Yes, UIL always ranks in ordinals. An outdated form of judging IMO but the new rubric is still better than the old one.
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Post by Allohak on Nov 9, 2021 18:06:01 GMT -6
Marcus 3rd
FloMo 4th
Reagan 6th
CTJ 8th
VR 11th
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 9, 2021 18:13:23 GMT -6
6A Finals Results
6A State Champion - Hebron H.S., TX 6A Silver Medalist - Vandegrift H.S., TX 6A Bronze Medalist - Marcus H.S., TX 4. Flower Mound H.S., TX 5. Coppell H.S., TX 6. Ronald Reagan H.S., TX 7. Cedar Ridge H.S., TX 8. Claudia Taylor Johnson H.S., TX 9. Keller H.S., TX 10. Westlake H.S., TX 11. Vista Ridge H.S., TX 12. Southlake Carroll H.S., TX
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Post by marchingmaniac on Nov 9, 2021 18:18:09 GMT -6
Hebron has now broken the curse! They are no longer the bridesmaid at BOA San Antonio and now they are no longer the bridesmaid at UIL State!
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 9, 2021 18:18:18 GMT -6
Sad to see Flower Mound out of the top 3, but it looks like cleanliness won over! As is typical at UIL
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 9, 2021 18:19:10 GMT -6
CTJ falling from 1st to 8th in one year... I know there were more players this time but ouch
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Post by marimba11 on Nov 9, 2021 18:20:07 GMT -6
Coppell is flying high! Whoa. Wish they were going to GN too
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Post by trumpette123 on Nov 9, 2021 18:24:00 GMT -6
I don't know much of anything about UIL I've heard at state competition is "more like" BOA judging. But there is no "effect" caption like there is in BOA correct? I wonder how the tables will turn going into Nats. Congrats to all the bands. Shockingly, I thought Marcus had a better prelims performance, but maybe just whack.
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Post by trumpette123 on Nov 9, 2021 18:24:41 GMT -6
Coppell is flying high! Whoa. Wish they were going to GN too LOVED their show, excited to see what awaits for them in the future
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Post by 18Saxes on Nov 9, 2021 18:24:58 GMT -6
I don't know much of anything about UIL I've heard at state competition is "more like" BOA judging. But there is no "effect" caption like there is in BOA correct? I wonder how the tables will turn going into Nats. Congrats to all the bands. Shockingly, I thought Marcus had a better prelims performance, but maybe just whack. There is a “Content and Design” caption. Probably the closest in comparison.
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Post by TXHillCountryBands on Nov 9, 2021 18:27:26 GMT -6
Coppell is flying high! Whoa. Wish they were going to GN too Imagine if Hebron, Vandy and Coppell were going to Nats! VR will not miss finals at LOS. Basically they finaled at arguably 2 of the toughest top HS competitions in 2021!
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