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Post by yayband914 on Sept 6, 2023 15:52:56 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIMS SCHEDULE AS OF 08/15/2023 (All times are in Eastern.)
8:00 - Harrison County H.S., KY 8:15 - Daviess County H.S., KY 8:30 - West Clermont H.S., OH 8:45 - Finneytown H.S., OH
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9:30 - Jackson County Comprehensive H.S., GA 9:45 - DeSoto Central H.S., MS 10:00 - William Henry Harrison H.S., IN 10:15 - Woodford County H.S., KY 10:30 - Oak Hills H.S., OH 10:45 - Hamilton H.S., OH 11:00 - South Oldham H.S., KY 11:15 - Decatur Central H.S., IN
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12:15 - Castle H.S., IN 12:30 - Campbell County H.S., KY 12:45 - Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN 1:00 - Avon H.S., IN 1:15 - Ravenwood H.S., TN 1:30 - Lakota East H.S., OH 1:45 - Lawrence Township, IN
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2:30 - Meade County H.S., KY 2:45 - Floyd Central H.S., IN 3:00 - North Hardin H.S., KY 3:15 - Center Grove H.S., IN 3:30 - Anderson County H.S., KY 3:45 - Franklin Central H.S., IN 4:00 - Carmel H.S., IN 4:15 - EXH. Univ. of Louisville Cardinal Marching Band
CLASS A: Finneytown H.S., OH
CLASS AA: Anderson County H.S., KY Campbell County H.S., KY Daviess County H.S., KY Decatur Central H.S., IN Harrison County H.S., KY Jackson County H.S., GA Meade County H.S., KY North Hardin H.S., KY South Oldham H.S., KY William Henry Harrison H.S., IN Woodford County H.S., KY
CLASS AAA: Castle H.S., IN DeSoto Central H.S., MS Floyd Central H.S., IN Hamilton H.S., OH Lakota East H.S., OH Oak Hills H.S., OH Ravenwood H.S., TN West Clermont H.S., OH
CLASS AAAA: Avon H.S., IN Carmel H.S., IN Center Grove H.S., IN Franklin Central H.S., IN Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN Lawrence Township H.S., IN
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Post by statechamp1239 on Sept 6, 2023 16:44:55 GMT -6
New Jersey has a Lawrence Township, too?!
Also, from what I saw last week, I’ll be surprised if Franklin Central makes finals, sadly (though they do have “benefit of the slot”). They still need a lot of polishing up. Yup and we were the first, and Indiana stole their name. In actuality they are Lawrence HS from Lawrenceville, NJ but usually compete with the name "Lawrence Township." I'm sad to hear that about Franklin Central they were doing so good after 2020 well, I'm sending them my luck to make finals.
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Post by zappak on Sept 6, 2023 16:58:28 GMT -6
Looks like Bourbon County is now on the participant list, and there's a slot listed as TBA before Harrison County on the schedule. Can confirm Bourbon will not be attending. They just must not have updated the participants list since they dropped. Incidentally, a TBA is included before every official schedule. When were they on the schedule before? They dropped from Obetz, but they never replaced it with a regional, just nationals. I'm just wondering where you got your information is all.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 6, 2023 17:06:06 GMT -6
Can confirm Bourbon will not be attending. They just must not have updated the participants list since they dropped. Incidentally, a TBA is included before every official schedule. When were they on the schedule before? They dropped from Obetz, but they never replaced it with a regional, just nationals. I'm just wondering where you got your information is all. Oops, had a brain fart and forgot they were originally signed up for Obetz and not here. Disregard!
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Post by zappak on Sept 6, 2023 17:22:39 GMT -6
When were they on the schedule before? They dropped from Obetz, but they never replaced it with a regional, just nationals. I'm just wondering where you got your information is all. Oops, had a brain fart and forgot they were originally signed up for Obetz and not here. Disregard! It's no problem. Lol. I'm trying to find out right now. Their website no longer exists it seems, so it's going to be harder to get that information.
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Post by ccbop on Sept 6, 2023 18:16:25 GMT -6
idk! Here's my week before prediction. 1. [redacted] 2. [redacted] 3. Castle H.S., IN - Echo 4. Lakota East H.S., OH - neXus 5. Center Grove H.S., IN 6. Lawrence Township H.S., NJ - The Art of Being 7. Campbell County H.S., KY - Illuminated: Within the Light 8. Franklin Central H.S., IN - The Red Door 9. DeSoto Central H.S., MS - Silhouettes 10. North Hardin H.S., KY - Destiny 11. Ravenwood H.S., TN - The Girl in Red 12. Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN - Avant Garden I would drop Lakota East a spot or two
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 7, 2023 8:33:07 GMT -6
It always seems that Avon does really well early season over Carmel and then Carmel prevails at the end. I wonder if this will hold true again this year.
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Post by lostinthebands on Sept 7, 2023 9:29:00 GMT -6
idk! Here's my week before prediction. 1. [redacted] 2. [redacted] 3. Castle H.S., IN - Echo 4. Lakota East H.S., OH - neXus 5. Center Grove H.S., IN 6. Lawrence Township H.S., NJ - The Art of Being 7. Campbell County H.S., KY - Illuminated: Within the Light 8. Franklin Central H.S., IN - The Red Door 9. DeSoto Central H.S., MS - Silhouettes 10. North Hardin H.S., KY - Destiny 11. Ravenwood H.S., TN - The Girl in Red 12. Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN - Avant Garden I would drop Lakota East a spot or two …why? East best Center Grove in Semis, and Lawrence Township didn’t even make semis. If we base things off the last few years progression of bands, east is right where they should be 🙃
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 7, 2023 10:03:56 GMT -6
I would drop Lakota East a spot or two …why? East best Center Grove in Semis, and Lawrence Township didn’t even make semis. If we base things off the last few years progression of bands, east is right where they should be 🙃 And technically Campbell could be projected as 5th based on Grand Nats results, as they beat both Lawrence and Center Grove, as BOTH were not in semis… 31st — Campbell County 39th — Center Grove 41st — Lawrence Township But, early season is early season. Things could go any which way.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 8, 2023 15:12:03 GMT -6
Trying to find out if Bourbon is actually coming here or not… KMEA is pretty strict about withdrawing after a certain point. I would imagine it would be cutting it close for a late signup with BOA, too.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 8, 2023 15:13:45 GMT -6
Adjudication Panel Music - Wayne Dillon, Glen Fugett, Evan Hinds, Caleb Rothe Visual - Mike Anderson, Lee Carson, Damon Padilla Chief Judge - Jon Gomez
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Post by zappak on Sept 8, 2023 19:47:14 GMT -6
Trying to find out if Bourbon is actually coming here or not… KMEA is pretty strict about withdrawing after a certain point. I would imagine it would be cutting it close for a late signup with BOA, too. Was told from a Bourbon County kid that they were NOT going to be attending this regional. That it was a mistake on BOA's part.
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Post by flagdodger on Sept 8, 2023 22:24:57 GMT -6
Trying to find out if Bourbon is actually coming here or not… KMEA is pretty strict about withdrawing after a certain point. I would imagine it would be cutting it close for a late signup with BOA, too. Was told from a Bourbon County kid that they were NOT going to be attending this regional. That it was a mistake on BOA's part. Darn
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Post by das88 on Sept 10, 2023 5:54:42 GMT -6
It always seems that Avon does really well early season over Carmel and then Carmel prevails at the end. I wonder if this will hold true again this year. Traditionally, that is true. But this is the most Carmel has had on the field this early that I can recall. Castle, traditionally, has quite a bit of their show out there and clean early. Last year was a little different but they were 40-some percent freshman last year. I am really excited to see how things go this Saturday!
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Post by Allohak on Sept 10, 2023 6:38:03 GMT -6
idk! Here's my week before prediction. 1. [redacted] 2. [redacted] 3. Castle H.S., IN - Echo 4. Lakota East H.S., OH - neXus 5. Center Grove H.S., IN 6. Lawrence Township H.S., NJ - The Art of Being 7. Campbell County H.S., KY - Illuminated: Within the Light 8. Franklin Central H.S., IN - The Red Door 9. DeSoto Central H.S., MS - Silhouettes 10. North Hardin H.S., KY - Destiny 11. Ravenwood H.S., TN - The Girl in Red 12. Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN - Avant Garden I would drop Lakota East a spot or two Lakota East swept scoring captions over Centerville last night, so if anything they're potentially under-valued going into next week 👀
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 10, 2023 6:50:29 GMT -6
It always seems that Avon does really well early season over Carmel and then Carmel prevails at the end. I wonder if this will hold true again this year. Traditionally, that is true. But this is the most Carmel has had on the field this early that I can recall. Castle, traditionally, has quite a bit of their show out there and clean early. Last year was a little different but they were 40-some percent freshman last year. I am really excited to see how things go this Saturday! I bet with the big name Texas groups attending GN this fall, Carmel is taking a CTJ approach which is to get as much of the show learned as they can, as fast as possible. Then focus on cleaning. They’re already pretty darn clean tho! I’m not feeling the show, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Avon OTOH, yesssss baby!
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 10, 2023 6:57:43 GMT -6
Carmel ... I’m not feeling the show, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Avon OTOH, yesssss baby! Many superfans and most casual fans typically don't "feel" it with Carmel, but the judges certainly do year after year.
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Post by LeanderMomma on Sept 10, 2023 12:11:17 GMT -6
Carmel ... I’m not feeling the show, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Avon OTOH, yesssss baby! Many superfans and most casual fans typically don't "feel" it with Carmel, but the judges certainly do year after year. 100%.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 10, 2023 12:20:20 GMT -6
Anderson County will definitely be in the finals conversation here, probably top 10. Looked and sounded very solid last night. I think North Hardin may place lower than expected.
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Post by das88 on Sept 10, 2023 12:58:01 GMT -6
My sentimental favorite down in SW Indiana is definitely coming out stronger (as expected) than this time last year. 🏰
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Post by es203 on Sept 11, 2023 0:31:27 GMT -6
Saw a video of Carmel and they look really really good. Definitely a bit smaller than years past, I counted ~260 on the field. Makes sense because their massive class from 2019 graduated. Haven’t seen anything from Avon but they’ll obviously be fine. Lakota East sweeping Centerville is definitely interesting. Castle might need to watch out.
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Post by crowncrawler on Sept 11, 2023 20:24:24 GMT -6
Final prediction (top 2 could obviously go either way):
1. Avon H.S., IN 2. Carmel H.S., IN 3. Castle H.S., IN 4. Lakota East H.S., OH 5. Campbell County H.S., KY 6. Center Grove H.S., IN 7. Lawrence Township H.S., IN 8. DeSoto Central H.S., MS 9. North Hardin H.S., KY 10. Franklin Central H.S., IN 11. Ravenwood H.S., TN 12. Daviess County H.S., KY
CLASS A: Finneytown H.S., OH CLASS AA: Campbell County H.S., KY CLASS AAA: Castle H.S., IN CLASS AAAA: Avon H.S., IN
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Post by lostinthebands on Sept 11, 2023 20:37:51 GMT -6
Saw a video of Carmel and they look really really good. Definitely a bit smaller than years past, I counted ~260 on the field. Makes sense because their massive class from 2019 graduated. Haven’t seen anything from Avon but they’ll obviously be fine. Lakota East sweeping Centerville is definitely interesting. Castle might need to watch out. East beating Centerville feels so strange to me. Why now, and what exactly happened that made the gap so large in such an abrupt amount of time? I honestly think Centerville is still just a touch better than the Lakotas. They are definitely catching up at an increasing speed, but I think East winning over them is simply early season judging. Idk, just doesn’t totally settle with me all the way. Either something went really wrong for Centerville, or East pulled out the greatest show they’ve ever performed (in the beginning of September..?)
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Post by baritoner on Sept 11, 2023 21:30:34 GMT -6
idk! Here's my week before prediction. 1. [redacted] 2. [redacted] 3. Castle H.S., IN - Echo 4. Lakota East H.S., OH - neXus 5. Center Grove H.S., IN 6. Lawrence Township H.S., NJ - The Art of Being 7. Campbell County H.S., KY - Illuminated: Within the Light 8. Franklin Central H.S., IN - The Red Door 9. DeSoto Central H.S., MS - Silhouettes 10. North Hardin H.S., KY - Destiny 11. Ravenwood H.S., TN - The Girl in Red 12. Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN - Avant Garden New Jersey has a Lawrence Township, too?! Also, from what I saw last week, I’ll be surprised if Franklin Central makes finals, sadly (though they do have “benefit of the slot”). They still need a lot of polishing up. What happened with Franklin Central? Did something happen to them?
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 11, 2023 21:44:14 GMT -6
New Jersey has a Lawrence Township, too?! Also, from what I saw last week, I’ll be surprised if Franklin Central makes finals, sadly (though they do have “benefit of the slot”). They still need a lot of polishing up. What happened with Franklin Central? Did something happen to them? Nothing? It’s still early in the season. But even the very early season execution level seemed low for them. Design choices, pacing and excellence as an effect are lacking compared to this time in previous years, in my opinion.
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 11, 2023 22:15:04 GMT -6
NJ does have a Lawrence Township and a Lawrenceville within that! I believe that is where Jon Stewart is from
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Post by flagdodger on Sept 11, 2023 22:39:16 GMT -6
My predictions for Louisville 2022 1. Carmel, IN 2. Avon, IN 3. Castle, IN 4. Lakota East, OH 5. Center Grove, IN 6. Campbell County, KY 7. Lawrence Township, IN 8. DeSoto Central, MS 9. North Hardin, KY 10. Franklin Central, IN 11. Decatur Central, IN 12. Ravenwood, TN First 3 out: 13. Anderson County, KY 14. Harrison County, KY 15. Jackson County, GA Prelims class predictions A- 1. Finneytown (M, V, GE) 2. 3. Bishop Sycamore AA- 1. Campbell County (M, V, GE) 2. North Hardin 3. Decatur Central AAA- 1. Castle (V, GE) 2. Lakota East (M) 3. DeSoto Central AAAA- 1. Carmel (?) 2. Avon (?) 3. Center Grove Hot takes: -First and second place are separated by more than what we’d expect -Over half of the finalists end up having ‘County’ or ‘Central’ in their names -A non-Indiana school ends up snagging the bronze medal -We possibly see every participating state in finals
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 11, 2023 23:12:01 GMT -6
Hmm… Carmel has me a bit perplexed. On one hand the musical demand is really quite high (for their standards), on the other I think the Symphony No.1 is quite difficult to get GE out of (except for the 4th movement of course). No matter how it’s arranged maybe. The arrangement itself is very reminiscent of the old Carmel from like 10 or so years ago.
They are continuing their very clean/ professional designs and moving a lot which is nice.
I’m very curious to see how far they can develop it. It feels very concert band on the field which I honestly don’t hate with some good woodwind exposure.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Sept 12, 2023 12:39:04 GMT -6
Here's Lakota East from last Friday's football game, they start performing around 1:42:00.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 12, 2023 13:58:53 GMT -6
Curious to see how the judges receive Center Grove’s show. It is very well performed for this time of year, but it’s that two minutes of the show where the winds do nothing but… well, sit and do nothing. They are for sure continuing their trend and style of bringing indoor vibes to the outdoor idiom.
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