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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 16, 2023 14:34:07 GMT -6
Hello everyone! I am still alive and I'm here to make my usual observations. Is it rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated I'm sure haha.
For those that don't know, I am doing live blog coverage once again this year. I'm sorry I haven't really been posting much. But those of you that are familiar with my situation understand that I have been taking a major focus on my health this year. You can still expect me though to be around and provide my thoughts. In the live blog you'll certainly see positive things, but I'll do my best to be more candid here. I'm going to do my best to try and post in these forums more often once again for the season but understand that if you don't necessarily hear anything from me that things are probably still okay and do not worry.
Now all of that said, I am currently here in person and before awards begin I wanted to give what my personal rankings were. Everyone has an opinion of course and you are welcome to disagree with mine. So let's keep everything civil if we decide to have a discussion over anything. This is after all only the first week for many groups and for many of you, you believe that this is the truth first week since it is the beginning week of Bank of America. A lot of groups have a long way to go and a lot of stuff to add and a lot of stuff to clean. Overall, I was quite impressed with where a lot of these groups were at this time of year. It just seems like the performance level goes up each year and it astounds me. Naturally in a good way. But anyway, you don't really care about all of that. So here are my rankings that I wanted to post before awards so that no one can accuse me of fudging them later haha.
1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Castle 4. Lakota East 5. Center Grove 6. Lawrence Township 7. Decatur Central 8. Anderson County 9. Ravenwood 10. Campbell County 11. Jackson County Comprehensive 12. Floyd Central ------------------------ 13. DeSoto Central 14. Franklin Central 15. Hamilton Southeastern 16. South Oldham 17. Meade County 18. Finneytown 19. North Hardin 20. West Clermont 21. Hamilton 22. Daviees County 23. Oak Hills 24. Harrison County 25. Woodford 26. William Henry Harrison
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Post by brodude77 on Sept 16, 2023 14:37:04 GMT -6
Why desoto central in 13th?
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Post by marimba11 on Sept 16, 2023 14:52:04 GMT -6
How was Avon
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Post by bigtrombone on Sept 16, 2023 15:03:35 GMT -6
Prelims Results:
Class A:
1. Finneytown H.S., OH
Outstanding Music Performance: Finneytown H.S., OH Outstanding Visual Performance: Finneytown H.S., OH Outstanding General Effect: Finneytown H.S., OH
Class AA:
1. Campbell County H.S., KY 2. Decatur Central H.S., IN 3. Anderson County H.S., KY
Outstanding Music Performance: Campbell County H.S., KY Outstanding Visual Performance: Decatur Central H.S., IN Outstanding General Effect: Decatur Central H.S., IN
Class AAA:
1. Castle H.S., IN 2. Lakota East H.S., OH 3. Floyd Central H.S., IN
Outstanding Music Performance: Castle H.S., IN Outstanding Visual Performance: Castle H.S., IN Outstanding General Effect: Castle H.S., IN
Class AAAA:
1. Carmel H.S., IN 2. Avon H.S., IN 3. Center Grove H.S., IN
Outstanding Music Performance: Carmel H.S., IN Outstanding Visual Performance: Avon H.S., IN Outstanding General Effect: Carmel H.S., IN
Finalists:
Lakota East H.S., OH Lawrence Township, IN Decatur Central H.S., IN Center Grove H.S., IN Castle H.S., IN Floyd Central H.S., IN Anderson County H.S., KY Campbell County H.S., KY Franklin Central H.S., IN Avon H.S., IN Carmel H.S., IN Hamilton Southeastern H.S., IN
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Post by statechamp1239 on Sept 16, 2023 15:14:32 GMT -6
Only got 9 out 12 correct. Got North Hardin, Ravenwood, and DeSoto Central wrong. Shot.
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Post by mtnxdrew on Sept 16, 2023 15:19:40 GMT -6
Wow, surprised no North Hardin
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 16, 2023 15:20:03 GMT -6
Certainly quite a bit to unpackage in there! Couple of surprise finalists for sure but that's what you get when some judges are seeing bands for the first time this season too. It's a new year and anything can happen! Here is the schedule for tonight.
7:30PM - Anderson County (KY) 7:45PM - Decatur Central (IN) 8:00PM - Hamilton Southeastern (IN) 8:15PM - Franklin Central (IN) 8:30PM - Lawrence Township (IN) 8:45PM - Floyd Central (IN) ------------------------------------- 9:00PM - Lakota East (OH) 9:15PM - Avon (IN) 9:30PM - Carmel (IN) 9:45PM - Center Grove (IN) 10:00PM - Campbell County (KY) 10:15PM - Castle (IN) 10:30PM - Finneytown (OH) *Exhibition*
------ indicates top half, bottom half divide
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Post by zappak on Sept 16, 2023 15:34:53 GMT -6
Certainly quite a bit to unpackage in there! Couple of surprise finalists for sure but that's what you get when some judges are seeing bands for the first time this season too. It's a new year and anything can happen! Here is the schedule for tonight. 7:30PM - Anderson County (KY) 7:45PM - Decatur Central (IN) 8:00PM - Hamilton Southeastern (IN) 8:15PM - Franklin Central (IN) 8:30PM - Lawrence Township (IN) 8:45PM - Floyd Central (IN) ------------------------------------- 9:00PM - Lakota East (OH) 9:15PM - Avon (IN) 9:30PM - Carmel (IN) 9:45PM - Center Grove (IN) 10:00PM - Campbell County (KY) 10:15PM - Castle (IN) 10:30PM - Finneytown (KY) *Exhibition* ------ indicates top half, bottom half divide Finneytown is from Ohio.
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 16, 2023 15:36:23 GMT -6
Quite right! That's what will happen when you are trying to type quickly. It has been updated. Thanks!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Sept 16, 2023 15:42:11 GMT -6
I'm the only one who guess HSE would make finals. Love seeing their growth over years we I gotta keep an eye on them in the future. Fishers v.2.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 16, 2023 15:45:08 GMT -6
I'm the only one who guess HSE would make finals. Love seeing their growth over years we I gotta keep an eye on them in the future. Fishers v.2. Definitely the best I’d ever seen them. They were wonderful! I’m glad they made finals! They must be so excited in a show of stiff competition.
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Post by yayband914 on Sept 16, 2023 15:46:35 GMT -6
I will say, I’m very shocked DeSoto Central isn’t in finals. I thought they were spectacular.
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Post by josephbandfan on Sept 16, 2023 16:35:58 GMT -6
Ooh seeing prelims awards again is getting me all excited for the season
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Post by cybrunette on Sept 16, 2023 17:08:03 GMT -6
I still believe in Avon dethroning Carmel tonight
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Post by monkeyman445 on Sept 16, 2023 17:15:12 GMT -6
I still believe in Avon dethroning Carmel tonight God I hope so I want to see Avon win so badly
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Post by indyguy8362 on Sept 16, 2023 17:17:36 GMT -6
i’ll tell y’all one thing: carmel ain’t loosing music
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Post by monkeyman445 on Sept 16, 2023 17:20:39 GMT -6
Kinda surprised to see Campbell in the top 6, they’ve been getting pretty good over the last few years but to see them hang with the top 6 surprised me.
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 16, 2023 17:30:11 GMT -6
Kinda surprised to see Campbell in the top 6, they’ve been getting pretty good over the last few years but to see them hang with the top 6 surprised me. And to get there by only winning one caption in their class too! You know the middle of the pack must be pretty tight. I've seen a lot of improvement year over year for them. It'll be interesting to find where that ceiling may be for them but for now, they aren't done yet! But first we've got Anderson County to start us off tonight which is another group that has certainly caught my eye the past few years for many of the same reasons. Generally a must see band from Kentucky for me now and I'm very glad I've gotten a chance to catch this show.
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Post by indyguy8362 on Sept 16, 2023 17:37:39 GMT -6
huge props to that anderson soprano sax, her singing was great and then was nails on the solo. all their winds are impressing me
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Post by drumlinegirlypop on Sept 16, 2023 17:52:19 GMT -6
Certainly quite a bit to unpackage in there! Couple of surprise finalists for sure but that's what you get when some judges are seeing bands for the first time this season too. It's a new year and anything can happen! Here is the schedule for tonight. 7:30PM - Anderson County (KY) 7:45PM - Decatur Central (IN) 8:00PM - Hamilton Southeastern (IN) 8:15PM - Franklin Central (IN) 8:30PM - Lawrence Township (IN) 8:45PM - Floyd Central (IN) ------------------------------------- 9:00PM - Lakota East (OH) 9:15PM - Avon (IN) 9:30PM - Carmel (IN) 9:45PM - Center Grove (IN) 10:00PM - Campbell County (KY) 10:15PM - Castle (IN) 10:30PM - Finneytown (OH) *Exhibition* ------ indicates top half, bottom half divide Really glad to see Floyd central in finals, they didn’t make it by one tenth of a point last year
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Post by msfanofbands02 on Sept 16, 2023 17:56:02 GMT -6
I will say, I’m very shocked DeSoto Central isn’t in finals. I thought they were spectacular. Ready for recaps… could it have possibly been a penalty?
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Post by das88 on Sept 16, 2023 18:09:35 GMT -6
I still believe in Avon dethroning Carmel tonight Never count Avon out! Harloff will have them fired up!
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Sept 16, 2023 18:28:12 GMT -6
My thoughts watching Hamilton Southeastern: "wow, we really are in the golden age of marching band, huh?"
My thoughts watching Franklin Central: "finally, absurdity is IN again!"
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Post by das88 on Sept 16, 2023 18:37:54 GMT -6
Nice job LT! Looking forward to this show later in the season.
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Post by drumlinegirlypop on Sept 16, 2023 18:39:23 GMT -6
Lawrence townships show was absolutely amazing, I definitely think they’ll at least be in top 7
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Sept 16, 2023 18:56:55 GMT -6
Predictions thus far:
7. Franklin Central 8. Hamilton Southeastern 9. Lawrence Township 10. Floyd Central 11. Anderson County 12. Decatur Central
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Post by oldschooldrummer on Sept 16, 2023 20:46:21 GMT -6
Any results yet or final predictions before awards?
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Post by Marching Observer on Sept 16, 2023 20:48:46 GMT -6
Alright everyone, I've got a little over a 4 hour drive home I have to do but I'll hopefully have some quick thoughts on tonight that I'll post tomorrow. For now though, I'll leave you with my rankings of tonight's performances! Great job once again to all of these groups today and safe travels home.
1. Carmel (M/GE) 2. Avon (V) 3. Castle 4. Center Grove 5. Lakota East 6. Campbell County 7. Lawrence Central 8. Floyd Central 9. Anderson County 10. Decatur Central 11. Hamilton Southeastern 12. Franklin Central
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Post by indyguy8362 on Sept 16, 2023 21:00:46 GMT -6
we need over/under betting odds for how long it takes for the first score to be announced after the drums start playing
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Sept 16, 2023 21:03:20 GMT -6
Predictions thus far: 7. Franklin Central 8. Hamilton Southeastern 9. Lawrence Township 10. Floyd Central 11. Anderson County 12. Decatur Central Now after seeing all the groups, here's my final thoughts: 1. Carmel 2. Avon 3. Castle 4. Center Grove 5. Lakota East 6. Campbell County 7. Franklin Central 8. Hamilton Southeastern 9. Lawrence Township 10. Floyd Central 11. Anderson County 12. Decatur Central My rankings are biased in favor of which show designs I preferred. Since every group is so incomplete at this point in the season, I don't weigh execution as heavily. Avon and Carmel — like watching an 90s/early 00s show through the lens of 2023. Both surprised what my ear has to come expect from modern marching band in terms of pacing, tempos, and cadences. So refreshing! I hope this sparks a trend across the nation for the rest of the decade. Castle — I don't perceive a relationship between the drill and the music, and I don't know that a story is being told, but it is very impressive if only for the sheer volume they possess. They are the Round Rock of Indiana. Center Grove — fun, smart! I wouldn't be shocked to see them in sixth tonight, but I just appreciate the way they prioritize musicality and entertainment value. That was a lovely singer. Lakota East, Campbell County — these two groups have proven their excellence the past few seasons. The final hurdle for them to overcome is to develop a point of view. Their shows are polished and check off all the boxes... but they're just a bit sterile. Soulless. They lack a true vulnerability, like the drill is too afraid to risk a high tempo or untraditional choreography. The music is so marching band-ified: not bad arrangements but safe ones. Both shows feel like Texas groups scoring in the 24th-28th range in San Antonio. Franklin Central — one to watch for!! Talk about a point of view. I'm VERY curious to know what the judges think of this. I think it's genius. I hope the program really believes in itself and maxes out it's audacity for absurdity. Hamilton Southeastern — while I thought they weren't the cleanest, the ideas are so fresh and inspired. Bixby meets Lincoln-Way? I hope to see more shows like this. Lawrence Township — see Lakota East and Campbell County. If this were cleaner, I would actually rank this up with those two groups. (Though if ALL groups were clean, I would've put Franklin Central and HSE above them all.) Floyd Central — on an island between 9th and 11th. It's cool seeing how much they've grown the past few years. Anderson County — really impressed at how much choreography they're doing and how well they've been taught! I found the emotional landscape of the show to be really odd for a Mr. Rogers show lol, but I respect how unique and well-planned this show was. Decatur Central — I'm kind of shocked that they were so close to Campbell County in prelims. I thought they played well enough, but I found the music arrangement and the drill just a bit awkward. I could see this show being like Boston for me this summer: I found the design really odd early season, but I loved it by late season just because of how excellently they performed it.
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