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Post by statechamp1239 on Mar 20, 2023 19:39:04 GMT -6
I wonder what the chances Waseca (MN) are coming here or is there any competition that I don't know they normally go? This is the only date with a TBD on 30th.
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Post by ilikeguard on Apr 3, 2023 7:17:33 GMT -6
Camdenton is likely but not confirmed, in the sense that I have heard from multiple sources they’ll be there but I have nothing to link for confirmation lol
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Post by dbalash on Apr 10, 2023 21:05:04 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Lake Park, IL
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 10, 2023 21:17:20 GMT -6
Drop:
Bellevue West H.S., NE - (Homecoming Dance)
BW HS Calendar
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Post by bigtrombone on Apr 13, 2023 20:08:49 GMT -6
Just from doing some digging, Pella's home show is the week prior to this regional. They will likely either be here or at the nearby marching invitational in Urbandale, IA.
Personally, I really want them here so we can have a strong Class A showing between them, MOC-Floyd Valley, Independence (if they attend) & Buhler.
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Post by dbalash on Apr 14, 2023 8:33:25 GMT -6
Not attending:
Lincoln-Way, IL (attending Prospect) Marian Catholic, IL (homecoming)
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Post by yayband914 on May 3, 2023 11:44:08 GMT -6
Camdenton is likely but not confirmed, in the sense that I have heard from multiple sources they’ll be there but I have nothing to link for confirmation lol Has there been an update on this? This date is still blank on their calendar but that also doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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Post by ilikeguard on May 3, 2023 19:51:11 GMT -6
Camdenton is likely but not confirmed, in the sense that I have heard from multiple sources they’ll be there but I have nothing to link for confirmation lol Has there been an update on this? This date is still blank on their calendar but that also doesn't necessarily mean anything. I’ve heard from several kids that they are. I have heard Iowa, Bentonville, St. Louis, and one third week of October competition (maybe MSMA?). My only guesses are that the calendar date is off by a week or Iowa has been swapped for a local. Sullivan and Blue Springs South have invitationals that day, so it’s possible. The formula is usually 2 locals, 1 regional, and 1 super, so it would be weird to skip a regional unless there’s financial limitations at play. I can’t imagine that it would be enough to cut out a 4 hour drive, but they did just commission a new trailer.
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Post by northbanddad on May 9, 2023 9:49:09 GMT -6
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 12, 2023 16:25:24 GMT -6
Possibility:
Ankeny Centennial H.S., IA - (Marching Band Competition- TBA)
Source: ACHS Band Calendar
every competition date is fill but this and sept 16
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Post by yayband914 on May 12, 2023 16:47:31 GMT -6
Possibility: Ankeny Centennial H.S., IA - (Marching Band Competition- TBA) Source: ACHS Band Calendar every competition date is fill but this and sept 16 If I’m not mistaken, they are the largest high school marching band in Iowa. Hoping they are coming!
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 13, 2023 7:02:05 GMT -6
Possibility: Ankeny Centennial H.S., IA - (Marching Band Competition- TBA) Source: ACHS Band Calendar every competition date is fill but this and sept 16 If I’m not mistaken, they are the largest high school marching band in Iowa. Hoping they are coming! Your thinking of their sister school Ankeny H.S. based on my numbers they had somewhere around 211 members. Ankeny Centennial H.S. is still large, but around 174 members. But I have Linn-Mar Community H.S. at 223 members. 1. Linn-Mar Community (223 members) 2. Ankeny (211 members) 3. Pella (200 members)
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Post by bigtrombone on May 14, 2023 20:10:41 GMT -6
Alright, I'm gonna try a way-too-early prediction for this regional, but I don't think much will change other than that there may be some bands here that may or may not attend. So with that said:
1. Lincoln H.S., SD (Visual tie, GE) 2. Rosemount H.S., MN (Music, Visual tie) 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Pella H.S., IA 5. Eastview H.S., MN 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 9. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 10. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 11. Lake Park H.S., IL 12. Bellevue East H.S., NE
Class Champions:
A: Pella H.S., IA AA: Camdenton H.S., MO AAA: Rosemount H.S., MN AAAA: Eden Prairie H.S., MN
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Post by bigtrombone on May 14, 2023 20:16:09 GMT -6
If I’m not mistaken, they are the largest high school marching band in Iowa. Hoping they are coming! Your thinking of their sister school Ankeny H.S. based on my numbers they had somewhere around 211 members. Ankeny Centennial H.S. is still large, but around 174 members. But I have Linn-Mar Community H.S. at 223 members. 1. Linn-Mar Community (223 members) 2. Ankeny (211 members) 3. Pella (200 members) Just in case you're wondering where these schools would line up in the BOA classification system, Pella is firmly a Class A band & Linn-Mar is firmly a Class AAA band. Ankeny & Ankeny Centennial (both 10-12 schools), would both just meet the cutoff to be classified as AAA.
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Post by yayband914 on May 14, 2023 20:48:39 GMT -6
Alright, I'm gonna try a way-too-early prediction for this regional, but I don't think much will change other than that there may be some bands here that may or may not attend. So with that said: 1. Lincoln H.S., SD (Visual tie, GE) 2. Rosemount H.S., MN (Music, Visual tie) 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Pella H.S., IA 5. Eastview H.S., MN 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Lake Park H.S., IL 9. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 10. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 11. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 12. Bellevue East H.S., NE Class Champions: A: Pella H.S., IA AA: Camdenton H.S., MO AAA: Rosemount H.S., MN AAAA: Lake Park H.S., IL Nice! I know you can't compare year to year, but Lake Park was 51st last year at St. Louis... and they haven't really been on an upswing. BV Southwest has generally been placing above West since COVID, but anything could happen early season!
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Post by bigtrombone on May 14, 2023 21:21:35 GMT -6
Alright, I'm gonna try a way-too-early prediction for this regional, but I don't think much will change other than that there may be some bands here that may or may not attend. So with that said: 1. Lincoln H.S., SD (Visual tie, GE) 2. Rosemount H.S., MN (Music, Visual tie) 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Pella H.S., IA 5. Eastview H.S., MN 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Lake Park H.S., IL 9. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 10. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 11. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 12. Bellevue East H.S., NE Class Champions: A: Pella H.S., IA AA: Camdenton H.S., MO AAA: Rosemount H.S., MN AAAA: Lake Park H.S., IL Nice! I know you can't compare year to year, but Lake Park was 51st last year at St. Louis... and they haven't really been on an upswing. BV Southwest has generally been placing above West since COVID, but anything could happen early season! Yeah, now that I've thought about it, Eden Prairie can probably beat Lake Park. Eden Prairie is still AAAA and while they are nowhere close to where they were 7-8 years ago they should be able to beat out Lake Park for AAAA.
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Post by northbanddad on May 14, 2023 21:52:18 GMT -6
Nothing too spicy, other than I think Eastview has been trending up the last few years. Given a good show design, they could be closer to Camdenton than expected. Alright, I'm gonna try a way-too-early prediction for this regional, but I don't think much will change other than that there may be some bands here that may or may not attend. So with that said: 1. Lincoln H.S., SD (Visual tie, GE) 2. Rosemount H.S., MN (Music, Visual tie) 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Pella H.S., IA 5. Eastview H.S., MN 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 9. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 10. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 11. Lake Park H.S., IL 12. Bellevue East H.S., NE Class Champions: A: Pella H.S., IA AA: Camdenton H.S., MO AAA: Rosemount H.S., MN AAAA: Eden Prairie H.S., MN
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 15, 2023 11:25:48 GMT -6
Your thinking of their sister school Ankeny H.S. based on my numbers they had somewhere around 211 members. Ankeny Centennial H.S. is still large, but around 174 members. But I have Linn-Mar Community H.S. at 223 members. 1. Linn-Mar Community (223 members) 2. Ankeny (211 members) 3. Pella (200 members) Pella is firmly a Class A band Pella has 35% of the school population in marching band.
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Post by dbalash on May 15, 2023 15:19:55 GMT -6
Alright, I'm gonna try a way-too-early prediction for this regional, but I don't think much will change other than that there may be some bands here that may or may not attend. So with that said: 1. Lincoln H.S., SD (Visual tie, GE) 2. Rosemount H.S., MN (Music, Visual tie) 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Pella H.S., IA 5. Eastview H.S., MN 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Lake Park H.S., IL 9. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 10. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 11. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 12. Bellevue East H.S., NE Class Champions: A: Pella H.S., IA AA: Camdenton H.S., MO AAA: Rosemount H.S., MN AAAA: Lake Park H.S., IL Nice! I know you can't compare year to year, but Lake Park was 51st last year at St. Louis... and they haven't really been on an upswing. BV Southwest has generally been placing above West since COVID, but anything could happen early season! Oh, Lake Park...what are we going to do with you? Haven't made Semifinals at GN since 2013, a super regional finals since 2011 (St. Louis), and a regional finals since 2010 (Pontiac). As much as I like to see that regional streak end, I don't think it will here. 11th place last year at ISU (and 51st in St. Louis), with ordinals all over the place doesn't bode well.
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 15, 2023 19:26:41 GMT -6
My early Prelims prediction
Confirmed Only: 1. Rosemount, MN 2. Lincoln, SD 3. Camdenton, MO 4. Eastview, MN 5. Blue Valley West, KS 6. Davenport Central, IA 7. Buhler, KS 8. Blue Valley Southwest, KS 9. MOC-Floyd Valley, IA 10. Bellevue East, NE 11. Waukee Northwest, IA 12. Rock Island, IL ---------------------------------- 13. Dowling Catholic, IA 14. Lake Park, IL 15. Eden Prairie, MN
or
Everyone listed: 1. Rosemount, MN 2. Lincoln, SD 3. Pella, IA 4. Camdenton, MO 5. Eastview, MN 6. Blue Valley West, KS 7. Independence, IA 8. Bellevue East, NE 9. Ankeny Centennial, IA 10. Davenport Central, IA 11. Millard North, NE 12. Buhler, KS ---------------------------------- 13. Blue Valley Southwest, KS 14. MOC-Floyd Valley, IA 15. Waukee Northwest, IA 16. Grand Rapids, MN 17. Rock Island, IL 18. Dowling Catholic, IA
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Post by yayband914 on May 15, 2023 20:07:00 GMT -6
My early Prelims prediction Confirmed Only: 1. Rosemount, MN 2. Lincoln, SD 3. Camdenton, MO 4. Eastview, MN 5. Blue Valley West, KS 6. Davenport Central, IA 7. Buhler, KS 8. Blue Valley Southwest, KS 9. MOC-Floyd Valley, IA 10. Bellevue East, NE 11. Waukee Northwest, IA 12. Rock Island, IL ---------------------------------- 13. Dowling Catholic, IA 14. Eden Prairie, MN 15. Millard South, NE or Everyone listed: 1. Rosemount, MN 2. Lincoln, SD 3. Pella, IA 4. Camdenton, MO 5. Eastview, MN 6. Blue Valley West, KS 7. Independence, IA 8. Bellevue East, NE 9. Ankeny Centennial, IA 10. Davenport Central, IA 11. Millard North, NE 12. Buhler, KS ---------------------------------- 13. Blue Valley Southwest, KS 14. MOC-Floyd Valley, IA 15. Waukee Northwest, IA 16. Grand Rapids, MN 17. Rock Island, IL 18. Dowling Catholic, IA 🤔
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 15, 2023 20:09:02 GMT -6
My early Prelims prediction 🤔 💪😉👊
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Post by yayband914 on May 15, 2023 20:35:46 GMT -6
I wasn't going to make any early season predictions this year, but because I am of the opinion that some of you are on crazy pills and/or are just making stuff up without taking precedent into consideration, here are my 100% ACCURATE and WILL ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY UNDENIABLY HAPPEN THIS WAY predictions for just this show:
Bands that are confirmed* only:
1. Lincoln H.S., SD 2. Rosemount H.S., MN 3. Camdenton H.S., MO 4. Eastview H.S., MN - pretty sizable gap - 5. Blue Valley Southwest H.S., KS 6. Buhler H.S., KS 7. Blue Valley West H.S., KS 8. Davenport Central H.S., IA 9. MOC-Floyd Valley H.S., IA 10. Bellevue East H.S., NE 11. Eden Prairie H.S., MN 12. Lake Park H.S., IL
A: Buhler H.S., KS AA: Eastview H.S., MN AAA: Lincoln H.S., SD AAAA: Eden Prairie H.S., MN
Rationales:
I took precedent into consideration, and watched videos of most of these groups from last season to gauge the quality we can hopefully expect this year. Let me just say... after watching Eastview, I'm very excited to see what they bring and how they do here. I expect a top 5 finish for them. The Kansas schools are all very solid and I anticipate they will be bunched closely together. Southwest has been ahead of West virtually every show they've competed together in since COVID, but West is definitely rebounding quite well after a couple of "down" years. But, results from KBA last year ultimately skews favor towards Southwest and Buhler for the time being.
Bottom four or five of finals is tough to predict. Our two listed Iowa representatives had two very solid showings last season, both of which were Class A and AA champions. They should do well, but several of the newer attendees push them further down. Eden Prairie is smaller, but they still play very well, and could surprise given the right show design. I think 8th-11th could go any which way.
If Pella goes, I'd put them in 5th (higher if their show is geared more towards BOA). If Independence goes, I'd put them around 10th (hoping for a rebound this year though)... If Millard North goes, I'd put them in 11th or 12th, bumping Lake Park out.
(Also, take the top part of this post with a heavy dose of sarcasm. I know, most people just do predictions for fun and aren't researching or thinking that deeply about them. ALL of our predictions are going to be wrong come September 30th.)
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Post by statechamp1239 on May 17, 2023 11:58:01 GMT -6
Confirmed: first-timer - (Project Class 1A)
Pella H.S., IA - (Bands of America Regional Marching Band Contest)
Source: PHS Band Calendar
Facts: +150 first place finishes 39 consecutive years winning Superior rating in Iowa State MBC I believe the third largest marching band in Iowa with 35% of high school students in marching band.
They got lower score than Class A Champion Bellevue West (NE) in Valley Showdown XVIII on (Oct. 8), but in their class B they were 6.1 points ahead of Independence (IA) in that competition. Dominated all competition with sizable gap between first and second.
Last Year last comp.: Mid- Iowa Championships in Ankeny, IA 1. 90.20: AAA :Pella, IA 2. 86.70: AAAA :Johnston, IA 3. 84.40: AAAA :Valley-Des Moines 4. 80.60: AAAA :Cedar Rapid Prairie 5. 78.60: AAA :North Polk, IA
From their Facebook page for their upcoming show: "Marching band shows have evolved into a theatrical musical experience. If you look to cutting edge ensembles in DCI and the Bands of America circuit, you will see the overall concept has evolved to be a much more “artistic” approach to field show performances.....Our show design concept has morphed, and we have incorporated more “set pieces” on the field. We have used show specific uniforms for the color guard and this last fall for the entire band. We have created a musical package that tells a story. We have increased the use of electronics. We have added a substantial amount of integrated choreography for the entire ensemble. We will continue the evolution this coming fall......We will have set pieces on the field, substantial integrated electronic sound, and show specific uniforms for the band and guard. The last element, show specific uniforms, often tends to scare people or elicit a response. However, there are some serious benefits. One of those benefits is prolonging the life of our current marching band uniforms.!"
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Post by bigtrombone on May 17, 2023 13:18:52 GMT -6
Awesome to see Pella going and it's nice to see them dipping their toes into BOA. This regional is shaping to have a fantastic Class A Showdown which could be enhanced further if Waseca attends.
The talk about the use of show specific uniforms caught my eye and made me realize that 4 of the potential Top 5 bands at Iowa will have show specific uniforms. Rosemount & Camdenton will likely have new FJM uniforms that will fit the theme of whatever show Wes gives them. Pella seems to have veered towards that (at least with the top half of the uniform) last year, and Eastview, while they still use their base uniform, have had changes on the sleeves of their uniforms the past 2 seasons that have fit their show themes (Neon Green in 2021, Pink in 2022). The only band in the Top 5 that isn't using show specific uniforms is Lincoln, who have been rocking the same uniform since 2014. I do have it on good authority that Lincoln is getting new uniforms for the 2024 season though.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jun 9, 2023 21:31:34 GMT -6
Confirmed: (Projecting Class 4A and the largest school in Iowa)
West Des Moines-Valley H.S., IA - (BOA Iowa Regional)
Source: VHS Band Calendar
History: They lost to Johnston again in their division (Class 4A) at the Mid-Iowa Band Championships just 5.8 points away from Pella
October 15, 2022 MID-IOWA BAND CHAMPIONSHIP Class 3A: 90.2 Pella 78.6 North Polk .. Class 4A: 86.7 Johnston 84.4 Valley 80.6 Prairie
2021 show: - Behind 2.4 points from first place winner Ankeny Centennial in Pella Invitational (2nd overall) - 9/25/21 - Behind 2.6 points away (2nd place) from Johnston HS in Mid-Iowa (3rd overall) - 10/16/21
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Post by hostrauser on Jun 19, 2023 19:33:24 GMT -6
Buhler, MOCFV, Pella, and maybe Independence. This will be the most competitive Class A competition outside of Grand Nationals, and the most competitive Class A at a regional maybe ever.
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 19, 2023 19:40:41 GMT -6
Buhler, MOCFV, Pella, and maybe Independence. This will be the most competitive Class A competition outside of Grand Nationals, and the most competitive Class A at a regional maybe ever. Bold. And I don't disagree. This is one BOA regional that beautifully showcases small school excellence!
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Post by ilikeguard on Jun 19, 2023 21:05:30 GMT -6
Confirmed: first-timer - (Project Class 1A) Pella H.S., IA - (Bands of America Regional Marching Band Contest) The last element, show specific uniforms, often tends to scare people or elicit a response. However, there are some serious benefits. One of those benefits is prolonging the life of our current marching band uniforms.!" I'm late to watching this but it definitely stands well against the competition. I'm not seeing them above Camdenton, but considering the latter has a history of being unpredictable I'm not entirely counting it out. I'd have to see a big leap up in visual. It sounds like they're tailoring their show towards BOA for this season, so I imagine we'll see some flashier presentation. I'll try a shot-in-the-dark tierlist: Lincoln HS, SD Rosemount HS, MN ------------------------- Camdenton HS, MO (they've beaten both Rosemount and Lincoln in the recent past, but I think there was a decent gap in quality the last year that keeps me away from putting them in the above tier). Eastview HS, MN Pella HS, IA ------------------------- Blue Valley Southwest HS, KS Independence HS, IA, should they attend Bellevue East HS, NE Davenport Central HS, IA MOC-Floyd Valley HS, IA ------------------------- Rock Island HS, IL Northwest HS, IA Blue Valley West HS, KS Buhler HS, KS Dowling Catholic HS, IA Millard North HS, NE, should they attend Millard South HS, NE Past that... I'll need to do some more research Edited because when I looked back to check Independence's placements over the years I saw that Camdenton had beaten Lincoln here too! It's so interesting what differences a couple of years can make (or even just a couple of months in the same season).
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Post by yayband914 on Jun 19, 2023 21:14:42 GMT -6
Confirmed: first-timer - (Project Class 1A) Pella H.S., IA - (Bands of America Regional Marching Band Contest) The last element, show specific uniforms, often tends to scare people or elicit a response. However, there are some serious benefits. One of those benefits is prolonging the life of our current marching band uniforms.!" I'm late to watching this but it definitely stands well against the competition. I'm not seeing them above Camdenton, but considering the latter has a history of being unpredictable I'm not entirely counting it out. I'd have to see a big leap up in visual. It sounds like they're tailoring their show towards BOA for this season, so I imagine we'll see some flashier presentation. I'll try a shot-in-the-dark tierlist: Lincoln HS, SD Rosemount HS, MN ------------------------- Camdenton HS, MO (they've beaten Rosemount in the recent past, but I think there was a decent gap in quality the last year that keeps me away from putting them in the above tier). Eastview HS, MN Pella HS, IA ------------------------- Blue Valley Southwest HS, KS Independence HS, IA, should they attend Bellevue East HS, NE Davenport Central HS, IA MOC-Floyd Valley HS, IA ------------------------- Rock Island HS, IL Northwest HS, IA Blue Valley West HS, KS Buhler HS, KS Dowling Catholic HS, IA Millard North HS, NE, should they attend Millard South HS, NE Past that... I'll need to do some more research Here’s where you’re wrong: KIDDING! I am trying to be better about this. 🤓
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