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Post by statechamp1239 on Jul 12, 2023 13:38:05 GMT -6
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Post by dbalash on Jul 13, 2023 12:12:38 GMT -6
Air Academy H.S., CO
American Fork H.S., UT
Arbor View H.S., NV
Basha H.S., AZ
Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ
Clovis H.S., NM
Corona del Sol H.S., AZ
Covina H.S., CA
Desert Vista H.S., AZ
Dobson H.S., AZ
Foothill H.S., NV
Fossil Ridge H.S., CO
Harrison H.S., CO
La Cueva H.S., NM
Millennium H.S., AZ
Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ
Mountain View H.S., AZ
Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV
Santa Fe H.S., NM
Sapulpa H.S., OK
Verrado H.S., AZ
Vista Murrieta H.S., CA
Williams Field H.S., AZ
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Post by statechamp1239 on Jul 13, 2023 12:14:36 GMT -6
Clovis doing 4 BOA show Unless they dropped St. Louis Oklahoma band. YEA!
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Post by thugmarcher23 on Jul 13, 2023 13:24:39 GMT -6
Just wondering, how do you see the classes for each band?
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Post by yayband914 on Jul 13, 2023 13:33:34 GMT -6
Just wondering, how do you see the classes for each band? You can't until the recaps come out. We are going by history and/or various enrollment data websites.
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 6, 2023 23:26:56 GMT -6
Exactly two months until this contest! It's time for very early predictions. Rather than going through the headache of trying to guess placements, I'm making the predictions tier-based and in alphabetical order.
Early congratulations to American Fork for their first of two impending regional championships in 2023! What a way to redeem themselves from yet another Grand Nationals snub.
I don’t know too much about the bands out west, so most of these predictions are based on prior results, program history, and looking at recent Arizona and Colorado state championship results and trying my best to translate those to BOA.
Side observation — if these predictions turn out to be true, the top 4 will all be from different states, in addition to the class champions. That would be pretty neat!
Congratulations! (1): American Fork H.S., UT ---------- Medalist Contenders (2-4): Clovis H.S., NM Fossil Ridge H.S., CO Vista Murietta H.S., CA ---------- Finalist Locks (5-8): Air Academy H.S., CO Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ Corona del Sol H.S., AZ Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ ---------- Likely Finalists (9-12): Desert Vista H.S., AZ Foothill H.S., NV Millennium H.S., AZ Williams Field H.S., AZ ---------- Finals Bubble (13-14): Basha H.S., AZ La Cueva H.S., NM ---------- Everyone Else (15-23): Arbor View H.S., NV Dobson H.S., AZ Mountain View H.S., AZ Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV ---------- Covina H.S., CA Harrison H.S., CO Santa Fe H.S., NM Sapulpa H.S., OK Verrado H.S., AZ
A: Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV AA: Air Academy H.S., CO AAA: Clovis H.S., NM AAAA: American Fork H.S., UT
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Post by hewhowaits on Aug 7, 2023 6:53:17 GMT -6
Side observation — if these predictions turn out to be true, the top 4 will all be from different states, in addition to the class champions. That would be pretty neat! With the possibility of a fifth state in the top 5.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Aug 7, 2023 15:56:44 GMT -6
Exactly two months until this contest! It's time for very early predictions. Rather than going through the headache of trying to guess placements, I'm making the predictions tier-based and in alphabetical order. Early congratulations to American Fork for their first of two impending regional championships in 2023! What a way to redeem themselves from yet another Grand Nationals snub. I don’t know too much about the bands out west, so most of these predictions are based on prior results, program history, and looking at recent Arizona and Colorado state championship results and trying my best to translate those to BOA. Side observation — if these predictions turn out to be true, the top 4 will all be from different states, in addition to the class champions. That would be pretty neat! Congratulations! (1):
American Fork H.S., UT ---------- Medalist Contenders (2-4):
Clovis H.S., NM Fossil Ridge H.S., CO Vista Murietta H.S., CA ---------- Finalist Locks (5-8):
Air Academy H.S., CO Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ Corona del Sol H.S., AZ Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ ---------- Likely Finalists (9-12):Desert Vista H.S., AZ Foothill H.S., NV Millennium H.S., AZ Williams Field H.S., AZ ---------- Finals Bubble (13-14):Basha H.S., AZ La Cueva H.S., NM ---------- Everyone Else (15-23):Arbor View H.S., NV Dobson H.S., AZ Mountain View H.S., AZ Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV ---------- Covina H.S., CA Harrison H.S., CO Santa Fe H.S., NM Sapulpa H.S., OK Verrado H.S., AZ A: Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV AA: Air Academy H.S., CO AAA: Clovis H.S., NM AAAA: American Fork H.S., UT I think you pretty much nailed this!! If anything, I think Mountain Ridge will fight Clovis, Fossil Ridge, and Vista Murrieta for 2-5. The 6-12 crowd will be a bit more homogeneous, though I think your proposed neighborhoods are pretty fair. Air Academy: their success isn't always consistent. Definitely a finalist, though I wouldn't be shocked if they were in the 9-12 bracket Catalina Foothills: first BOA event ever, if I'm not mistaken? I'm not used to them competing this early so I have no idea what to expect. Effect > excellence for them (especially visually), so depending on their panel, they could be highly rewarded for being fun and entertaining, or docked for being especially dirty. Don't be surprised if you see them doing an old Cedar Park show lol Desert Vista: last year featured a lot of changes in their staff and show style; they were a bit less competitive than usual. Was that a fluke, or is that their new normal? Definitely will be a finalist regardless. Millennium and Williams Field: again, as such newcomers to BOA, I'm not sure what to expect—and that's so exciting!! Millennium feels like the most drum corps-esque band in the state (I believe Blue Stars' brass caption head Travis Larson is their brass arranger and caption head), and Williams Field is a smaller band that always punches above their weight, especially visually (some of the current Pacific Crest vis staff teaches/designs here). I don't see either placing above Corona (maybe Millennium above DV??? THAT'D be crazy), but I wouldn't be shocked to see either place in the single digits. Basha and Dobson: both of these groups have been refining their staffs and slowly building strong foundations. Basha has the strongest marching percussion program in the state and Dobson has some young, committed visual talent. I don't think either sneaks into finals this year, but if they can maintain consistency, watch for them in the future. Verrado: I wasn't expecting to see them here!! I think that's AWESOME and speaks to the direction their young staff is taking their program. I hope we see more AZ groups like them dive into BOA. They, too, could be a dark horse finalist in the next few years!
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Post by coleeich on Aug 7, 2023 18:37:16 GMT -6
Exactly two months until this contest! It's time for very early predictions. Rather than going through the headache of trying to guess placements, I'm making the predictions tier-based and in alphabetical order. Early congratulations to American Fork for their first of two impending regional championships in 2023! What a way to redeem themselves from yet another Grand Nationals snub. I don’t know too much about the bands out west, so most of these predictions are based on prior results, program history, and looking at recent Arizona and Colorado state championship results and trying my best to translate those to BOA. Side observation — if these predictions turn out to be true, the top 4 will all be from different states, in addition to the class champions. That would be pretty neat! Congratulations! (1):
American Fork H.S., UT ---------- Medalist Contenders (2-4):
Clovis H.S., NM Fossil Ridge H.S., CO Vista Murietta H.S., CA ---------- Finalist Locks (5-8):
Air Academy H.S., CO Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ Corona del Sol H.S., AZ Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ ---------- Likely Finalists (9-12):Desert Vista H.S., AZ Foothill H.S., NV Millennium H.S., AZ Williams Field H.S., AZ ---------- Finals Bubble (13-14):Basha H.S., AZ La Cueva H.S., NM ---------- Everyone Else (15-23):Arbor View H.S., NV Dobson H.S., AZ Mountain View H.S., AZ Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV ---------- Covina H.S., CA Harrison H.S., CO Santa Fe H.S., NM Sapulpa H.S., OK Verrado H.S., AZ A: Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV AA: Air Academy H.S., CO AAA: Clovis H.S., NM AAAA: American Fork H.S., UT I always love seeing your predictions! I know not nearly enough about the western bands, but I will say that I think Sapulpa is one to keep your eyes on. They don't really have the consistency to back this up, but last year they placed ahead of Piedmont and Coweta at their state marching competition, just right behind Collinsville. Coweta especially is a pretty consistent finalist at BOA Regionals they attend, and they even won the Arizona Regional in 2019. All this to say, if Sapulpa is anything this year like they were last year, they are a finals contender for me!
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Post by Allohak on Aug 7, 2023 19:17:30 GMT -6
Air Academy is currently without a director, so we'll see.
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Post by ohioguy2 on Aug 7, 2023 19:21:37 GMT -6
Air Academy is currently without a director, so we'll see. What happened?
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Post by lostchoirguy on Aug 8, 2023 1:00:56 GMT -6
Exactly two months until this contest! It's time for very early predictions. Rather than going through the headache of trying to guess placements, I'm making the predictions tier-based and in alphabetical order. Early congratulations to American Fork for their first of two impending regional championships in 2023! What a way to redeem themselves from yet another Grand Nationals snub. I don’t know too much about the bands out west, so most of these predictions are based on prior results, program history, and looking at recent Arizona and Colorado state championship results and trying my best to translate those to BOA. Side observation — if these predictions turn out to be true, the top 4 will all be from different states, in addition to the class champions. That would be pretty neat! Congratulations! (1):
American Fork H.S., UT ---------- Medalist Contenders (2-4):
Clovis H.S., NM Fossil Ridge H.S., CO Vista Murietta H.S., CA ---------- Finalist Locks (5-8):
Air Academy H.S., CO Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ Corona del Sol H.S., AZ Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ ---------- Likely Finalists (9-12):Desert Vista H.S., AZ Foothill H.S., NV Millennium H.S., AZ Williams Field H.S., AZ ---------- Finals Bubble (13-14):Basha H.S., AZ La Cueva H.S., NM ---------- Everyone Else (15-23):Arbor View H.S., NV Dobson H.S., AZ Mountain View H.S., AZ Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV ---------- Covina H.S., CA Harrison H.S., CO Santa Fe H.S., NM Sapulpa H.S., OK Verrado H.S., AZ A: Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV AA: Air Academy H.S., CO AAA: Clovis H.S., NM AAAA: American Fork H.S., UT I always love seeing your predictions! I know not nearly enough about the western bands, but I will say that I think Sapulpa is one to keep your eyes on. They don't really have the consistency to back this up, but last year they placed ahead of Piedmont and Coweta at their state marching competition, just right behind Collinsville. Coweta especially is a pretty consistent finalist at BOA Regionals they attend, and they even won the Arizona Regional in 2019. All this to say, if Sapulpa is anything this year like they were last year, they are a finals contender for me! I've learned to almost never count out Oklahoma bands, no matter how obscure they are haha
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Post by yayband914 on Aug 28, 2023 14:52:14 GMT -6
Prelims schedule posted above.
Ironwood Ridge H.S., AZ replaces Santa Fe H.S., NM.
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Post by jakeymam12 on Aug 29, 2023 10:48:58 GMT -6
That would be so cool to have 5 schools from different states in the top 5
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Post by hewhowaits on Sept 27, 2023 13:54:18 GMT -6
Adjudication Panel Music - John Carnahan, Tom Dean, David Morrison, Max Mullinix Visual - Mike Anderson, John Leonard, Kyle Miller Chief Judge - W. Dale Warren
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 2, 2023 13:48:06 GMT -6
Final predictions.
A little shaky here, as I'm not as familiar with the southwestern bands. Nonetheless, I'm giving it a go.
Best of skill to all groups!
1. American Fork H.S., UT 2. Vista Murietta H.S., CA 3. Fossil Ridge H.S., CO 4. Clovis H.S., NM 5. Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ 6. Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ 7. Corona del Sol H.S., AZ 8. Air Academy H.S., CO 9. Desert Vista H.S., AZ 10. Williams Field H.S., AZ 11. Foothill H.S., NV 12. Millennium H.S., AZ
A 1. Pinecrest Academy of Nevada Cadence, NV
AA 1. Air Academy H.S., CO 2. La Cueva H.S., NM 3. Sapulpa H.S., OK
AAA 1. Fossil Ridge H.S., CO 2. Clovis H.S., NM 3. Williams Field H.S., AZ
AAAA 1. American Fork H.S., UT 2. Vista Murietta H.S., CA 3. Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ
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Post by coleeich on Oct 2, 2023 14:02:40 GMT -6
Sapulpa from the Owasso Invitational last Saturday. They are looking and sounding great! I think they have a decent shot at sneaking into finals.
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Post by thugmarcher23 on Oct 2, 2023 19:50:44 GMT -6
My predictions as an Arizonan:
1. American Fork H.S., UT 2. Vista Murietta H.S., CA 3. Clovis H.S., NM 4. Mountain Ridge H.S., AZ 5. Fossil Ridge H.S., CO 6. Corona del Sol H.S., AZ 7. Sapulpa H.S., OK 8. Basha H.S., AZ 9. Catalina Foothills H.S., AZ 10. Desert Vista H.S., AZ 11. Williams Field H.S., AZ 12. Foothill H.S., NV
9-12 were the hardest, I could see Air Academy being anywhere in there too. Can't wait to see how wrong I was!
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Post by 4score on Oct 3, 2023 7:47:32 GMT -6
Prediction Time!
1. American Fork 2. Vista Murietta, CA 3. Clovis, NM 4. Mountain Ridge, AZ 5. Fossil Ridge, CO 6. Millennium H.S. AZ 7. Sapulpa H.S., OK 8. Foothill H.S, NV 9. Corona del Sol H.S., AZ 10. Desert Vista H.S., AZ 11. Air Academy H.S., CO 12. Basha H.S., AZ
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 3, 2023 8:01:01 GMT -6
I thought Air Academy was impressive at the legacy festival two weekends ago. They March and play well, I’d personally have them solidly in finals.
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Post by cinnamonpromenade on Oct 3, 2023 8:42:05 GMT -6
Final predictions:
1. American Fork, UT 2. Vista Murietta, CA 3. Mountain Ridge, AZ 4. Clovis, NM 5. Fossil Ridge, CO 6. Corona del Sol, AZ 7. Foothill, NV 8. Basha, AZ 9. Sapulpa, OK 10. Williams Field, AZ 11. Desert Vista, AZ 12. Air Academy, CO
The following are total wildcards to me, either due to surprising recaps from local shows or because there's NO information on them... curious to see if any of them make finals!
Arbor View, NV Catalina Foothills, AZ Dobson, AZ La Cueva, NM Millennium, AZ
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Post by bigtrombone on Oct 3, 2023 8:59:58 GMT -6
OFFICIAL PRELIMS SCHEDULE AS OF 08/23/2023 (All times in Mountain.) I feel the need to say that while this regional is technically in Mountain Time, Arizona doesn't recognize Daylights Savings, so Prelims Awards will likely be happening around 8:00 PM Eastern/7:00 PM Central.
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 3, 2023 9:31:20 GMT -6
Correct, right now they are on Pacific time
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 3, 2023 10:01:33 GMT -6
Correct, right now they are on Pacific time No, Arizona is still on Mountain time. It just happens to be Mountain Standard Time. Yes, it "feels" like Pacific Daylight Time, but...
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Post by yayband914 on Oct 3, 2023 10:10:32 GMT -6
Correct, right now they are on Pacific time No, Arizona is still on Mountain time. It just happens to be Mountain Standard Time. Yes, it "feels" like Pacific Daylight Time, but... I understand band, but I don’t understand basic concepts like time. Mods can adjust wording/times in the schedule post if needed. 😂
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 3, 2023 10:11:22 GMT -6
Correct, right now they are on Pacific time No, Arizona is still on Mountain time. It just happens to be Mountain Standard Time. Yes, it "feels" like Pacific Daylight Time, but... Correct, but the way I explained it is the way my brain can understand 😁
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Post by marimba11 on Oct 3, 2023 10:12:35 GMT -6
I wish I had seen Fossil Ridge but unfortunately they only performed at prelims at legacy because of their homecoming that evening. Everyone in the audience said they would have won finals had they competed.
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Post by hewhowaits on Oct 3, 2023 11:14:59 GMT -6
No, Arizona is still on Mountain time. It just happens to be Mountain Standard Time. Yes, it "feels" like Pacific Daylight Time, but... I understand band, but I don’t understand basic concepts like time. Mods can adjust wording/times in the schedule post if needed. 😂 No adjustment needed. The wording in the schedule post is 100% accurate even if it's confusing to some with East Coast bias.
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Post by Allohak on Oct 3, 2023 11:18:07 GMT -6
I understand band, but I don’t understand basic concepts like time. Mods can adjust wording/times in the schedule post if needed. 😂 No adjustment needed. The wording in the schedule post is 100% accurate even if it's confusing to some with East Coast bias. You're mixing forums
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Post by 4score on Oct 3, 2023 12:06:36 GMT -6
I wish I had seen Fossil Ridge but unfortunately they only performed at prelims at legacy because of their homecoming that evening. Everyone in the audience said they would have won finals had they competed. They are probably the cleanest band in Colorado. No doubt especially early season they would’ve stayed ahead of Loveland. The spread between Loveland/Centaurus and Fossil was smaller than last year. Centaurus missed finals last year for homecoming.
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