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Post by vidal28rdg on Apr 10, 2023 13:19:51 GMT -6
I understand what you’re trying to get at, but you have to realize the comparisons you’re making. At Area B you have bands like Coppell who has not missed state for literally three decades and has only recently begun to really shine as a DFW powerhouse (and does not seem to be stopping anytime soon). You have Keller who has consistently made UIL State finals and BOA SA finals for almost 10 years straight. You have L.D. Bell and Duncanville who have a long history of success and who are both on the path to rising back to some form of this success, and the list goes on. BOA DFW has all of these plus the Lewisville Big Three, which only increases the competitiveness. Southlake is a talented group who had a rough start and it’s not fair to completely through out the results of GN just based on bad results at two contests. This isn’t even taking into account performance times and other factors which may have affected their prelim run’s (which is where most of their “bad” placements have been). I think they will do well here, especially coming off the momentum of GN, but at the end of the day you can believe what you want. Funny enough, I said a lot of this near verbatim in a previous comment😂
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Post by vidal28rdg on Apr 10, 2023 13:28:14 GMT -6
Southlake Carroll's 2022 production was much more BOA sheets friendly than UIL sheets friendly. That in and of itself goes a long way toward explaining the failure to make UIL Area finals. Add in the possibility that they had a particularly weak prelims run while others had relatively strong runs and you have SLC missing Area finals. It’s also a misnomer and a misread that I also made in this reading this comment that they missed UIL Area Finals, they got 11th in prelims like what was said and cited as them “regressing” where in Area finals they nearly rebounded all the way up to qualifying for state, just barely missing out due to tiebreaker. I thought it was good for Prosper and SLC that they didn’t make state so they didn’t have to make a trip down to San Antonio, devoting precious time, energy and resources, and instead focused on cleaning their show for GN at home, as we saw, they really benefited from that. As for the speculation on a rough run in Area prelims I got to see much of Area B prelims on the day, but I believe SLC were one of the first groups to perform and I didn’t get there in time to hear them, also going first in UIL often does more to hamper the placement of a band than it does to help. Not the place you want to be.
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Post by vidal28rdg on Apr 10, 2023 13:39:50 GMT -6
SLC's results prior to GN last Fall certainly raised a lot of eyebrows and had most everyone expecting they would end up no better than the 20s. But then they went and made finals and ended up the highest placing Texas band on top of that. No one falls backwards into GN finals, even in a year with a relatively weak lineup at the top. A band unexpectedly making finals at an early season regional could perhaps be considered a fluke of judging and inconsistent performances. Making GN finals, and especially achieving the result they did, is not a fluke. Now there is nothing wrong with speculating that a band might fall down the order this next season. It happens all the time, especially in Texas where the middle-upper tier has always had a lot of placement volatility from year to year. The problem is in saying that SLC is "struggling severely" when we haven't even gotten to the end of the school year in which they made GN finals in their first attempt. Let's look at the other side of the coin. Is M&G Johnson "struggling severely" after because they missed GN finals despite having a pretty successful season prior to that? Im my forever optimistic stance on Texas bands that make the trip up there, I didn’t see them making finals as unexpected, it is hard to make predictions of the 4 bands that went when they were all hovering at around the same level of performance, making that bubble so congested, so I said 3 out of the 4 would make it, leaving Hendrickson as the odd man out in my predictions.
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 10, 2023 13:47:29 GMT -6
My predictions:
Some bands will medal. Some bands will make finals. Some bands will be out of finals. One band will win. Hard to say which bands will do what in April!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 10, 2023 13:59:04 GMT -6
Anyways
Confirmed:
Duncanville H.S. TX - (BOA Prosper) - took out Tentative
Source: DHS Band Calendar
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 10, 2023 14:01:42 GMT -6
Anyways Confirmed: Duncanville H.S. TX - (BOA Prosper) - took out Tentative Source: DHS Band Calendar Yet another reason for Southlake Carroll to quake in their marching shoes. 🤓
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Post by vidal28rdg on Apr 10, 2023 14:28:26 GMT -6
Anyways Confirmed: Duncanville H.S. TX - (BOA Prosper) - took out Tentative Source: DHS Band Calendar Yet another reason for Southlake Carroll to quake in their marching shoes. 🤓 They’re definitely a contender for finals!🙃 I get that this was said in jest, but yeah, bands that are in many folks’ predictions could end up not making it or placing lower than expected, lot of great bands attending!
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 10, 2023 17:31:30 GMT -6
I’m beyond excited to get the honor and opportunity to announce that Mustang (OK) will be attending TWO Texas regionals this fall. They will be here at the N. Texas Regional and also at the Midland Regional! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 10, 2023 18:32:29 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Sachse H.S., TX (band calendar)
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Post by tubalord11 on Apr 10, 2023 21:39:27 GMT -6
Everyone I need help! I’m free this day and am currently living in Waco at Baylor. I’m stuck between going to this or the TMC, and can’t decide!!! Of course, we probably don’t have the full lineups for either comp, but how this one is shaping out to be, and I’d also get to go home after, and how TMCs lineup will be once we get closer, I don’t know what to do! What would y’all do?
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Post by vidal28rdg on Apr 10, 2023 22:21:24 GMT -6
With every addition this contest is looking more and more congested from top on down, plenty of opportunity for movement. For those attending BOA DFW the week before it could be an indicator as to how they’ll fare here!
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Post by LeanderMomma on Apr 11, 2023 6:00:01 GMT -6
Everyone I need help! I’m free this day and am currently living in Waco at Baylor. I’m stuck between going to this or the TMC, and can’t decide!!! Of course, we probably don’t have the full lineups for either comp, but how this one is shaping out to be, and I’d also get to go home after, and how TMCs lineup will be once we get closer, I don’t know what to do! What would y’all do? That’s a tough choice for sure. If you are able to go to BOA Austin in September then definitely head up to Dallas for this one in October. That’s my plan hopefully!
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 11, 2023 6:24:06 GMT -6
My predictions: Some bands will medal. Some bands will make finals. Some bands will be out of finals. One band will win. Hard to say which bands will do what in April! Don't forget that there will be Class Champions in every class that is represented by at least one band.
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Post by tubalord11 on Apr 11, 2023 6:48:49 GMT -6
My predictions: Some bands will medal. Some bands will make finals. Some bands will be out of finals. One band will win. Hard to say which bands will do what in April! Don't forget that there will be Class Champions in every class that is represented by at least one band. Unfortunately I can’t go to Austin due to having a a football game that day and being in marching band, but with the fact Mustang is coming now, and they aren’t going to Nats which I plan on going too, I think I’ll come to this ome.
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 11, 2023 11:53:10 GMT -6
Everyone I need help! I’m free this day and am currently living in Waco at Baylor. I’m stuck between going to this or the TMC, and can’t decide!!! Of course, we probably don’t have the full lineups for either comp, but how this one is shaping out to be, and I’d also get to go home after, and how TMCs lineup will be once we get closer, I don’t know what to do! What would y’all do? You can't go wrong with either event. Both will be excellent shows.
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Post by servingcont1ra on Apr 12, 2023 6:58:06 GMT -6
What happened to SLC to go from GN finals to “struggling severely” So going from a CLEAR 3rd at area and making finals at SMBC to not qualifying, and even if they advanced from a tie wouldnt realistically beat Duncanville which places them below the top 20, going from making 8th overall at DFW BOA to not even making finals, and placed below Wax, Prosper, Westwood, and Wylie East and was close to KCentral, Sachse, and Forney when the previous year placed consistently above these bands. While they did well at Grand Nats (which already had very little Texas representation in comparison to other years) and many of what they accomplished this season hasnt been done by many bands it wouldnt make sense to say their program is on an uphill, many people within the program have voiced frustrations with the programs direction and its not looking good for the program in the future unless something changes, so while many bands would be happy to say they are in their position, they are struggling in their current position and I dont see them realistically placing second, much less above McKinney North, KCent, Waxahachie, close to Prosper, Hendrickson, Highland Park, Timber Creek just based on previous scoring and how all of these programs are on an uphill through word of mouth and how feeders are improving. TO CLARIFY not saying they are bad at all, and could just be an off year and all of that could be wrong, but honestly I dont see them in top half this year just from what Ive seen, and just because they placed well in one competition doesnt mean they are doing fine on the standard they've established when so many other competitions show signs of a dip in quality of the program. Heavily disagree, I think it’s actually a sign of strength when a program knows the perfect time to peak, Southlake Carroll’s ultimate goal for their season was to do well at Grand Nats, and from what i’ve heard and seen, they’ve more than accomplished that goal. Seeing as their last competition is UIL State, i’d expect them to have a stronger start than last year.
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Post by yayband914 on Apr 17, 2023 0:16:54 GMT -6
Looks like Wakeland will be attending this show after all, in addition to UIL Region.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 21, 2023 8:33:38 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Rock Hill H.S., TX - (BOA Prosper & UIL Region Competitions)
Source: RHHS Band Calendar
I think they're only doing Prelims
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Post by nategriffin on Apr 21, 2023 10:43:07 GMT -6
Confirmed: Rock Hill H.S., TX - (BOA Prosper & UIL Region Competitions) Source: RHHS Band Calendar I think they're only doing Prelims I wonder how the kids would feel if they made finals but couldnt attend, would be a shame honestly
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Post by hewhowaits on Apr 21, 2023 10:52:33 GMT -6
Confirmed: Rock Hill H.S., TX - (BOA Prosper & UIL Region Competitions) Source: RHHS Band Calendar I think they're only doing Prelims I wonder how the kids would feel if they made finals but couldnt attend, would be a shame honestly While the students might be disappointed about missing the opportunity to perform in finals, they're from Texas so they know that UIL is King, Queen, and the rest of the Royal Family.
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 21, 2023 12:05:11 GMT -6
Confirmed: Rock Hill H.S., TX - (BOA Prosper & UIL Region Competitions) Source: RHHS Band Calendar I think they're only doing Prelims I wonder how the kids would feel if they made finals but couldnt attend, would be a shame honestly Well they still have Waco to make finals. So, I think this is great way to see where they are, as well complete in UIL.
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Post by abtwitch on Apr 21, 2023 20:21:39 GMT -6
Confirmed: Rock Hill H.S., TX - (BOA Prosper & UIL Region Competitions) Source: RHHS Band Calendar I think they're only doing Prelims I wonder how the kids would feel if they made finals but couldnt attend, would be a shame honestly Shouldn't be an issue, many groups performed at this regional and UIL last year, including the champion. They probably just try to get their times on the schedules in a way where they can do all three performances with no conflicts.
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Post by allthingschaotic on Apr 24, 2023 16:59:48 GMT -6
Drop: Colleyville Heritage H.S., TX (Birdville Marching Festival)
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Post by abtwitch on Apr 24, 2023 22:57:50 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Forney H.S., TX (Band calendar)
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 28, 2023 8:21:34 GMT -6
Confirmed:
Lake Highland H.S., TX - (Bands of America Prosper)
Source: LHHS Band Calendar
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Post by tubalord11 on Apr 28, 2023 9:33:12 GMT -6
Confirmed: Lake Highland H.S., TX - (Bands of America Prosper) Source: LHHS Band Calendar wow this really makes things interesting! LHs has had 2 incredible seasons recently, making Area B finals the last 2 years in a row. I’m not to knowledgeable about this group, but for sure a potential finalist!
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Post by statechamp1239 on Apr 28, 2023 9:48:29 GMT -6
Confirmed: Lake Highland H.S., TX - (Bands of America Prosper) Source: LHHS Band Calendar wow this really makes things interesting! LHs has had 2 incredible seasons recently, making Area B finals the last 2 years in a row. I’m not to knowledgeable about this group, but for sure a potential finalist! I loved there bee show last year. abtwitch will probably know something about them.
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Post by abtwitch on Apr 28, 2023 20:03:03 GMT -6
wow this really makes things interesting! LHs has had 2 incredible seasons recently, making Area B finals the last 2 years in a row. I’m not to knowledgeable about this group, but for sure a potential finalist! I loved there bee show last year. abtwitch will probably know something about them. Great program on the rise, their head director was at Highland Park in the late 2010s when they made state finals twice. Also this is something that boahistorybuff can confirm, but I believe they were the first Texas band to win a BOA Regional back in the early 80s.
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Post by hawknate14 on Apr 28, 2023 21:18:58 GMT -6
I loved there bee show last year. abtwitch will probably know something about them. Great program on the rise, their head director was at Highland Park in the late 2010s when they made state finals twice. Also this is something that boahistorybuff can confirm, but I believe they were the first Texas band to win a BOA Regional back in the early 80s. They were, in 1982
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Post by nategriffin on May 1, 2023 12:25:13 GMT -6
Confirmed: Keller HS (band calendar)
Well thats gonna be interesting
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